Appreciate Transcendence
by C.A. Clark on Feb 6, 2010 10:19 PM PST
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PrintAlso file under "That's why they play the game." Games are not played on paper. Last night, for example, the Lakers took on the Denver Nuggets at Staples Center. The Nuggets were without their superstar, Carmelo Anthony. The Lakers were at (relatively) full strength. The game was at Staples, where the Lakers were 24-3. On paper, the Lakers clearly had the upper hand. We all know what happened next. Chauncey Billups turned in one of the transcendent performances of the season, draining 9-13 3 pt shots en route to 39 points, as the Nuggets brought a mini-gun to a shoot out and beat the Lakers against the odds.
Tonight, it was the Lakers who were staring at the wrong side of the paper equation. And it was Lamar Odom who provided the transcendent performance which allowed the Lakers to finally get over the hump in Portland, 99-82.
You're probably aware of all of this, but we'll run it down for you. The Lakers were playing on the second night of the back to back that probably requires as much or more travel than any in the NBA. Kobe Bryant didn't play tonight for the first time all season. By halftime, Andrew Bynum joined him on the unavailable list. I'm not trying to play any pity cards, because it would be foolish to do so in a game played against the most injury plagued team in the league, but Portland has been playing relatively well even without all their missing players. And the last time these two teams met in Portland, the Lakers were destroyed (by free thr ... oh nevermind) by the Blazers, despite the Lakers being at full strength vs. the Blazers hospital ward. Then there's the whole "curse" aspect, with the Lakers having lost 9 straight games in Rip City. There were probably a fair number of Laker fans expecting a loss tonight, and even more who would accept it if it happened.
But, just as Billups refused to let the Nuggets lose last night in L.A., Lamar refused to let the Lakers lose tonight. Billups' performance was more palpable, more identifiable, and probably a bit more unique, but make no mistake. Lamar's performance on the glass tonight was one for the ages. 22 rebounds is no record, not even for LO (though he did tie his career best). But advanced stats can tell you just how special it was. First of all, this was a slow paced game. There weren't that many possessions to begin with, which means less opportunities to collect missed shots. Lamar had 19 defensive rebounds out of a possible 37. In other words, on the defensive glass, he personally took down more than half the rebounds which were available TO THE ENTIRE TEAM. The league leader in individual defensive rebound rate is currently Marcus Camby ... with 32.9%. All those boards helped limit Portland to only 2 offensive rebounds the entire night, or 8% (the Lakers usually give up 3 times that percentage). Lamar also had 3 of the Lakers 12 offensive rebounds. He didn't single handedly outscore the Blazers, like Billups did to us last night. But he damn near out-boarded them, and that is special in it's own right.
He had help, of course. Much like J.R. Smith picked up where Billups left off for Denver, even a transcendent performance isn't enough all by it's lonesome. Without Kobe in the lineup, many Lakers stepped up to fill the void. Most notable was Ron Artest, who's overall play on the offensive end was very good, and the three straight threes he hit at the end of the first half, including a 35 footer at the buzzer, absolutely changed the complexion of the game. Shannon Brown's shot selection was still pretty bad, but he made enough of them to be patted on the back on this night. Same for Jordan Farmar. Even Derek Fisher and Sasha Vujacic, the two villains from last night's game, came through with relatively good shooting. Pau continues to struggle with other team's physicality, but he did a great job of moving the ball within the triangle tonight, including a layoff to Ron Artest that brought back memories of Shaq to Rick Fox. As one would expect when the Lakers pick up a big win in a hostile environment, missing 2 of their best players, everybody played a good game.
Was it luck? Was it the Lakers finally showing their championship mettle? Was it fate's way of apologizing for Denver's crazy shooting the night before? Was it statistical noise over the course of a long season? Let the last two games serve as a reminder to you, that anything is possible any given night. Last night, the Lakers lost a game they should have won, and considering the circumstances, they actually had no chance. Tonight, they won a game they should have lost, and considering how things played out, the result was a lock. Both are evidence that these games must be played to be decided. And neither one meant anything more than 1/82.
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All the things we haven't had consistently showed up tonight and that is why the Lakers won..
Lamar rebounded like a beast
Fisher played well on both ends
Brown almost had a career night
Artest’s foot looked healthy
Sasha made some shots
Lakers ran the triangle
Lakers played better team defense
The role players stepped u
"If you want to find the dumbest guy in the room just find the first guy to tell you how smart he is." - JG
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Feb 6, 2010 10:23 PM PST reply actions
Yes, one of the very few "Good Fisher" games we've seen...
Proud of the Lakers tonight, yesterday was kajsflkjaskldfjalksn, but giving it to the Blazers was too awesome.
by Julio Nievas on Feb 6, 2010 10:31 PM PST up reply actions
are you also a writer for the Conquest Chronicles?
"If you want to find the dumbest guy in the room just find the first guy to tell you how smart he is." - JG
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Feb 6, 2010 10:32 PM PST up reply actions
that is pretty cool...
"If you want to find the dumbest guy in the room just find the first guy to tell you how smart he is." - JG
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Feb 6, 2010 10:39 PM PST up reply actions
odom deserves this
"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."
by shaqfor3 on Feb 6, 2010 10:23 PM PST reply actions 7 recs
That is awesome..
"If you want to find the dumbest guy in the room just find the first guy to tell you how smart he is." - JG
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Feb 6, 2010 10:29 PM PST up reply actions
12 recs now
http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/2/6/1298634/the-streak-ends-tonight
hahahahaha…i cannot stop laughing
"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."
lol..
that will not stop being funny..
"If you want to find the dumbest guy in the room just find the first guy to tell you how smart he is." - JG
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Feb 6, 2010 10:31 PM PST up reply actions
1. I have no clue
2. lol
"If you want to find the dumbest guy in the room just find the first guy to tell you how smart he is." - JG
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Feb 6, 2010 10:40 PM PST up reply actions
btw..
How come it doesn’t turn green if we keep rec-ing it?
"If you want to find the dumbest guy in the room just find the first guy to tell you how smart he is." - JG
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Feb 6, 2010 10:44 PM PST up reply actions
not sure
but they do stay around in the fanshot section longer :)
"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."
ooooh! didn't even know any fan from SB nation could post on any
team’s site..
"If you want to find the dumbest guy in the room just find the first guy to tell you how smart he is." - JG
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Feb 6, 2010 10:50 PM PST up reply actions
yes sir
you can, though you have to be a member of that blog first, and not get banned
"E-Coaches are heavy in here tonight! Take E-Sasha and put him on the E-bench on your fantasy league, that’ll show him!" - Jevon O
oh dam..there goes the Celtics blog
"If you want to find the dumbest guy in the room just find the first guy to tell you how smart he is." - JG
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Feb 7, 2010 7:13 AM PST up reply actions
LMAO!
Come to think of it, your alias is still alive there, right? Or is it also banned now?
"E-Coaches are heavy in here tonight! Take E-Sasha and put him on the E-bench on your fantasy league, that’ll show him!" - Jevon O
you should have posted before getting banned, LOL!
"E-Coaches are heavy in here tonight! Take E-Sasha and put him on the E-bench on your fantasy league, that’ll show him!" - Jevon O
mine is alive
i post there a lot… just to create some subtle contraversy with my posts….
ahh
yep, I usually read your posts there. If I didn’t know any better I’d say your a Celtic fan myself. Are YOu?
"E-Coaches are heavy in here tonight! Take E-Sasha and put him on the E-bench on your fantasy league, that’ll show him!" - Jevon O
Mathew Mayfield, isn't it?
"E-Coaches are heavy in here tonight! Take E-Sasha and put him on the E-bench on your fantasy league, that’ll show him!" - Jevon O
no.. lakers all the way… f the celtics.. i just want to get some free celtic tickets.. in their t mobile trivia contest
careful then
if they read you here, you’re done for
"E-Coaches are heavy in here tonight! Take E-Sasha and put him on the E-bench on your fantasy league, that’ll show him!" - Jevon O
hello no..lol my IP address is banned
"If you want to find the dumbest guy in the room just find the first guy to tell you how smart he is." - JG
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Feb 7, 2010 8:46 PM PST up reply actions
You guys are really enjoying this?
C’mon.
A positive attitude will not solve all of your problems but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort - Herm Albright
Keep the faith.
I see you've been checking my member page ...
USC itself, no. But that coaching staff, particularly Orgeron and, to a lesser extent, Lane Kiffin, are two people who are about as classless as it gets, and if you don’t see it that way, we probably shouldn’t discuss the matter
The thing that I don’t understand is that it’s not exactly a great hire for USC either. USC just stole a coach who did some good things, but doesn’t exactly have a strong overall resume. Seems like a pretty big risk to me, especially since Monte isn’t going to coach forever.
Well I can go on and on with this subject...
But we really can’t say that we don’t feel for Vol fans, we knew we were going to get crap for it and blah. It caught us by surprise. Anyway, good luck with Dooley at the helm. Great class you guys got, in the WR position specifically.
by Julio Nievas on Feb 6, 2010 10:54 PM PST up reply actions
BTW..
am i crazy and maybe it wasn’t you but didn’t you have a screen pic of the dodgers hat?…maybe I’m thinking of someone else with a similar screen name..
"If you want to find the dumbest guy in the room just find the first guy to tell you how smart he is." - JG
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Feb 6, 2010 11:04 PM PST up reply actions
Anyone else got the Saints tommorow...I do..
I know there are some passionate football fans here also. Since the Raiders left I don’t follow the NFL..
"If you want to find the dumbest guy in the room just find the first guy to tell you how smart he is." - JG
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Feb 6, 2010 10:45 PM PST reply actions
I keep hearing the Colts are too experienced...
"If you want to find the dumbest guy in the room just find the first guy to tell you how smart he is." - JG
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Feb 6, 2010 10:51 PM PST up reply actions
I think the Colts D is terribly underrated even with Freeney out.
I like the Colts secondary to give their pass rushers time to get to Brees. Plus the Saints
D is overrated. They get turnovers, but thats it. They don’t keep the other team outta of the endzone consistently enough. Peyton Manning will eat a D up that plays like that.
Thnx for the response
Peyton Manning is going to be the key. I heard someone describe him as if he was Joe Montana…that is crazy..didn’t know he was that good.
"If you want to find the dumbest guy in the room just find the first guy to tell you how smart he is." - JG
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Feb 6, 2010 10:57 PM PST up reply actions
im no expert at football
but when someone gets compared to Joe Montana you know hes for real…
"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."
seriously
I think it’s more of his composure when he’s in the pocket and his ability to pick defenses apart…dam! now I’m rethinking my picking of the Saints…
"If you want to find the dumbest guy in the room just find the first guy to tell you how smart he is." - JG
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Feb 6, 2010 11:05 PM PST up reply actions
me too after looking up the stats
guess it isnt too late to make the swap :)
"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."
lol...
I love the underdog that is why i’m rooting for the saints because of the city. I read somewhere that John Starks was bagging groceries before he got in the NBA so that is why I rooted for him against the Bulls… : ( dam MJ…
"If you want to find the dumbest guy in the room just find the first guy to tell you how smart he is." - JG
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Feb 6, 2010 11:10 PM PST up reply actions
Warner bagged groceries to?
no fucking way! are you serious?
"If you want to find the dumbest guy in the room just find the first guy to tell you how smart he is." - JG
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Feb 6, 2010 11:33 PM PST up reply actions
lol
no, but he worked at a convenience store. maybe bagging stuff checked out is one of them
"E-Coaches are heavy in here tonight! Take E-Sasha and put him on the E-bench on your fantasy league, that’ll show him!" - Jevon O
ooh
well that’s admirable for sure..
"If you want to find the dumbest guy in the room just find the first guy to tell you how smart he is." - JG
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Feb 7, 2010 7:13 AM PST up reply actions
yeah
i want them to win cuz there city has been through alot and they deserve it…
"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."
yes they do
I hope they win. I’m sticking with them.
"If you want to find the dumbest guy in the room just find the first guy to tell you how smart he is." - JG
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Feb 6, 2010 11:33 PM PST up reply actions
i picked the saints
i think their explosive offense will be too much for the colts
"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."
sorry for the dumb questions but I know you like football from past comments
who has a better defense?
"If you want to find the dumbest guy in the room just find the first guy to tell you how smart he is." - JG
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Feb 6, 2010 10:52 PM PST up reply actions
I check on the NFL's site
the colts are 5th in fewest yards allowed (both passing and rushing)
hmmmm…forgot to consider that variable when i made my prediction :(
"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."
I always hear football fans say how defense wins Superbowls..
"If you want to find the dumbest guy in the room just find the first guy to tell you how smart he is." - JG
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Feb 6, 2010 11:06 PM PST up reply actions
You hear that simply
because it’s true. Not unlike many other sports
true..
"If you want to find the dumbest guy in the room just find the first guy to tell you how smart he is." - JG
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Feb 6, 2010 11:08 PM PST up reply actions
But
just like every other sport you also hear that a really strong offense can overcome a strong defense. Colts better with Freeney in, and still good without him but it just means so much more to their rush when he’s there. I’m sure Sean Payton will have the Saints ready.
This game showed me something interesting about Blazer fans
They don’t even hate the Lakers, they’re all just a bunch of bitter Kobe haters. That “passionate” and “electric” crowd was nowhere to be seen at any point in the game tonight, even when they were ahead and knocking down shots. What a bunch of bandwagom haters. LOL at all of them!!
i thought it was pretty loud in the begining.
but once we got the lead just before the half, they started to quiet down.
maybe it’s cuz they were down, or maybe their throats were sore by then.
they’re still louder than most stadiums.
They might have been shocked because they were sure going to win tonight
because Kobe didn’t play. They must of thought, “oh we got this”…YEAH RIGHT!
"If you want to find the dumbest guy in the room just find the first guy to tell you how smart he is." - JG
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Feb 6, 2010 10:59 PM PST up reply actions
That is true to a certain extent.
It’s true because as shown on Blazersedge, a lot of fans have taken solace in the fact that Kobe still has a 9 game losing streak in the Rose Garden.
However, they’re a pretty rowdy bunch otherwise.
Yeah but Kobe damn sure
has a 4 playoff series win streak over the Blazers. LOL at those losers bragging about regular season wins. I root for Champions, something they no nothing about
by wavenstein on Feb 6, 2010 11:05 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
that mentality is just good for their own mental stability
they don’t want to face the truth of what happened tonight..
"If you want to find the dumbest guy in the room just find the first guy to tell you how smart he is." - JG
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Feb 6, 2010 11:07 PM PST up reply actions
First post!
Heya guys! I’m from Jakarta, Indonesia.. Been lurking SSR for almost a year now! Finally decided to join the gang :)
Let’s go Lakers !!
Welcome!
Twitter feed: @dexterfishmore
by DexterFishmore on Feb 6, 2010 10:56 PM PST up reply actions
welcome sir
I was going to change my screen pic to yours…now I can’t
"If you want to find the dumbest guy in the room just find the first guy to tell you how smart he is." - JG
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Feb 6, 2010 10:58 PM PST up reply actions
Welcome
"That's a giant sig " - Ben R.
by Saurav A. Das on Feb 6, 2010 11:40 PM PST up reply actions
Welcome Teman
did I state it right? Been to Jakarta. way out with the monuments. Better than Manila, IMO.
"E-Coaches are heavy in here tonight! Take E-Sasha and put him on the E-bench on your fantasy league, that’ll show him!" - Jevon O
Lakers show they are still a good team without Kobe
Ever since Kobe has been banged up, he has done a lot to hurt the team with a lot of unKobelike low shooting % almost as much as he has helped it.
Kobe gets healthy, and all this panic stuff goes to bed.
I just hope this win assures Kobe that it's okay for him to sit his ass down.
"If you want to find the dumbest guy in the room just find the first guy to tell you how smart he is." - JG
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Feb 6, 2010 11:08 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah Kobe needed a break
He’s got nothing to be ashamed of, 255 straight games including two deep playoff runs and an Olympic Gold Medal is nothing for anybody to scoff at. I’d rather Kobe sit out until after the AS break to be honest.
trust me you are not alone
we all feel that way. Well, most of us do anyways.
"If you want to find the dumbest guy in the room just find the first guy to tell you how smart he is." - JG
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Feb 6, 2010 11:22 PM PST up reply actions
Agree
I would rather Kobe back in the game with same explosiveness.. But knowing Kobe, he would try to play next game
Well hopefully
he feels like these guys can get it done for now in his absence. These Lakers definately can hold down the fort until the General returns.
Well as much as I agree with the latter statement
The former isn’t completely true as he had games where he shot well and they still didn’t win, such as Denver.
i checked out the blazersedge site. they spelled lakers with an asterisk in place of the A. it seems the writer did it for the entire article. why is that?
They do that because they consider it blasphamy to say/type the whole name
it is their method of trash talking. I feel flattered that they go to that trouble only for the Lakers..just like the Beat LA signs.
"If you want to find the dumbest guy in the room just find the first guy to tell you how smart he is." - JG
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Feb 6, 2010 11:21 PM PST up reply actions
RE*LLY L*ME OF THOSE BL*ZER F*NS
"I work my ass off every day in practice. How many other guys can say the same thing? Not many. I'm fighting against becoming soft. That's the worse thing you can say to a basketball player." - Dennis Rodman
I must say I enjoyed reading the summary of the last game at their blog. They do see to take it pretty seriously.
Which of these things is not like the others? 15 NBA Championships, most wins in NBA history, current NBA champions, lost by 20 to the F'ing Spurs.
by olf on Feb 8, 2010 5:42 PM PST up reply actions
Bynum
I read he was injuried in this game anyone knows how bad.I read it was his hip then I read he tweaked the knee he injuried last year.What was the reason he left the game tonight.
by LakersMania on Feb 6, 2010 11:18 PM PST reply actions
He tweaked the knee againt the Bobcats
That was NOT an aggravation of last year’s injury, as far as I know – last year he tore a ligament, this is just kneecap bruising.
That injury did not make him miss any time, however in this game he fell and bruised his hip.
Neither injury is serious, and he should be able to play against San Antonio.
"That's a giant sig " - Ben R.
by Saurav A. Das on Feb 6, 2010 11:35 PM PST up reply actions
San Antonion always gives the Lakers a hard time
just like Portland
"If you want to find the dumbest guy in the room just find the first guy to tell you how smart he is." - JG
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Feb 6, 2010 11:37 PM PST up reply actions
Just remember a contusion is fancy medical speak for a bruise
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
I Knew it
I knew if Kobe sat down for a game, that the others would step up.
Btw, I won a free Subway sandwich! wooot!
u were at the game?
I won a free oil change before…
"If you want to find the dumbest guy in the room just find the first guy to tell you how smart he is." - JG
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Feb 6, 2010 11:25 PM PST up reply actions
I wish
I won a bet. My friend said Lakers would lose and when I heard that Kobe was gonna sit, I knew they were gonna win.
lol...that is crazy
that you would take that bet knowing Kobe would sit.
"If you want to find the dumbest guy in the room just find the first guy to tell you how smart he is." - JG
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Feb 6, 2010 11:53 PM PST up reply actions
ha yea but
I knew that if Kobe took a break then everyone else would step up because now they didn’t have Kobe to come to the rescue if all hell broke loose…
I think that because Kobe plays, then everyone else gets complacent because they figure Kobe is gonna bail them out again like he did against Miami, Milwaukee, Sacramento, etc. Lakers are spoiled in having the Black Mamba take the floor.
Take the game against Denver for example. Kobe had 33 points with a broken finger, a bad knee, and a tweaked ankle. Who else is gonna do that? Lakers are spoiled, lol.
good points..
"If you want to find the dumbest guy in the room just find the first guy to tell you how smart he is." - JG
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Feb 7, 2010 12:13 AM PST up reply actions
thank you
I’m a big Lakers fan, but I can also be their biggest critic.
Purple and Gold forever, though!
same here
huge critic. it rubs people the wrong way at times..but who cares..just be you.
"If you want to find the dumbest guy in the room just find the first guy to tell you how smart he is." - JG
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Feb 7, 2010 7:15 AM PST up reply actions
Well there you go you never really know what your going to get in a box of chocolates.
Gallant effort by all lakers showing that they are professionals especially Lamar and Ronny. I like the fact that KB didn’t play and hope he rest for at least 10 days, this will build team character.
GO LAKERS DON’T BE FAKERS
by so.cal.native1952 on Feb 6, 2010 11:23 PM PST reply actions
Ah no but he was a great one for the Lakers, I really miss that guy.
LA Sports is what keep me off the streets and out of trouble, thanks to all the teams Rams, Dodgers, Lakers, USC sports and the Love of Tennis.
by so.cal.native1952 on Feb 6, 2010 11:34 PM PST up reply actions
Blazers fan recounts event outside Rose Garden...pretty funny!
Funniest moment of the night As I was leaving the RG, some dudes in a Monster Energy truck were handing out free drinks. As I was getting one, two real drunk Laker fans climb on the truck and one takes her top (Kobe jersey) off and yells , "Woo KOBE!" at which she proceeds to almost fall off the truck into the ground. Some dude in a Rudy jersey saved her.
"If you want to find the dumbest guy in the room just find the first guy to tell you how smart he is." - JG
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Feb 6, 2010 11:26 PM PST reply actions
Kobe on the trade deadline
"No. I love my guys. I love my guys. I love how we’re built and I love what we have and I’d love a chance to repeat with the group that we have here right now. Obviously Mitch (Kupchak) has to do his job and I won’t get in the way of that but from my personal standpoint, I love the group and crew that we have."
"If you want to find the dumbest guy in the room just find the first guy to tell you how smart he is." - JG
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Feb 6, 2010 11:27 PM PST reply actions
here you go
http://sportsradiointerviews.com/2010/02/02/is-kobe-bryant-the-greatest-laker-ever/
"If you want to find the dumbest guy in the room just find the first guy to tell you how smart he is." - JG
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Feb 7, 2010 12:13 AM PST up reply actions
lol
That’s the new 2010 Politically Correct Kobe lol On the inside he was screamin get a Guard that can shoot!! Fish is killing me!
Yeah, there's no way Kobe will ever think D-Fish isn't good enough
Kobe respects D-Fish tremendously.
Lakers 2009 Road to Redemption: TREVOR, DEREK, LAMAR, PAU & KOBE.
Play the game of which Lakers reminds you of: TA - TI, Shannon Brown - Chris Brown, Pau Gasol - Jesus, Machine - Luis Scola/Russell Brand, PJ with mustache and beard - Colonel Sanders.
by PeanutButterSpread on Feb 7, 2010 1:08 PM PST up reply actions
I wonder what happened to Timbo
He kind of disappeared on us there in the second half.
Twitter feed: @dexterfishmore
I read that he was really drunk..lol
not sure if it was true but that would have been funny..
"If you want to find the dumbest guy in the room just find the first guy to tell you how smart he is." - JG
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Feb 6, 2010 11:36 PM PST up reply actions
Well, if he followed the drinking game triggers..
I’m worried for him.
"That's a giant sig " - Ben R.
by Saurav A. Das on Feb 7, 2010 12:24 AM PST up reply actions
For those who don't know
There’s this awesome site where Laker highlights are posted up.
Awesome place.
thnx..i love that site..
I want to be able to do that..record games in HD that is
"If you want to find the dumbest guy in the room just find the first guy to tell you how smart he is." - JG
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Feb 7, 2010 7:16 AM PST up reply actions
No official report
But he should be fine, it’s just a bruise.
"That's a giant sig " - Ben R.
by Saurav A. Das on Feb 7, 2010 1:09 AM PST up reply actions
Maybe that loss, which LO said “embarrassed” them, was a wake-up call. Or maybe, as Odom noted afterward, the reality of no Kobe provided a much-needed whiff of the smelling salts.
“Sometimes when you lose an arm, another sense picks up.”
http://espn.go.com/blog/los-angeleslakers/post/_/id/2774/lakers-99-blazers-82-the-moment
Did anyone see on TV that guy dancing shirtless? It was hiliarious, haha Blazer fans
by 15xtimeNBAchamps on Feb 7, 2010 1:06 AM PST reply actions
For anyone who's still up at this hour
Hilton Armstrong: Never Give Up
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
by Gil Meriken on Feb 7, 2010 1:08 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Your always up at this hour, where are you at China? LOL
by 15xtimeNBAchamps on Feb 7, 2010 1:11 AM PST up reply actions
Maybe he owns himself in a fantasy league
and needed a steal
Over on BE, some of the commenters are blaming the refs for this game. How did they reason the free throw disparity the last time the Lakers and Blazers played? Was it that the Blazers were the aggressor and drove to the paint so they deserved the calls? Well the Lakers were the aggressors and the free throw disparity and fouls called discrepancy wasn’t even that bad. Just drives the point home that fans will manipulate any circumstance in order to make their team look good, and most of the time its the refs. I’m guilty of it too, but I just don’t see how in any possible way shape or form the refs lost this game for the Blazers. The Lakers out-played the Blazers. The refs didn’t hand the Lakers 47 rebounds. They went after them. 24 assists on 41 makes? The Lakers assisted them.
I love the players the Blazers have, but I can’t stand some of their fans.
Why does everyone expect Laker fans to be band waggners if your a Laker fan outside So Cal? Its so annoying
by 15xtimeNBAchamps on Feb 7, 2010 1:13 AM PST up reply actions
I agree.
Tons of people grew up in LA and moved to other parts of the country later in life, taking their love of the Lakers with them. Am I supposed to just stop being a Laker fan because I left LA?
TRUE DAT.
I get that all the time out here in Salt Lake City.
"I work my ass off every day in practice. How many other guys can say the same thing? Not many. I'm fighting against becoming soft. That's the worse thing you can say to a basketball player." - Dennis Rodman
We shot 4 less free throws than they did....What the hell do they have to complain about?
Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."
thats pretty typical on alot of blogs
they blame everyone but their own team for a loss
denver stiffs is notorious for that imo
"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."
I'm all for being a Laker fan but..
why do must of you say we, and us, and our… lol…
you’re not in the squad… I’m guilty of it sometimes, but I can catch myself most of the time..
That only happens when you bleed purple and gold and shit celtic green lol
by 15xtimeNBAchamps on Feb 7, 2010 1:16 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
It's just shorthand
First-person pronouns have only one syllable each, while “the Lakers” has three. Using the former to replace the latter is economical. I’m pretty sure the people who do it actually understand that they’re not personally employed by the team.
Twitter feed: @dexterfishmore
by DexterFishmore on Feb 7, 2010 1:17 AM PST up reply actions
How can you be so sure we're not?
:P
"That's a giant sig " - Ben R.
by Saurav A. Das on Feb 7, 2010 1:18 AM PST up reply actions
Well, I reckon I could outplay Morrison for his 5 million a year..
"That's a giant sig " - Ben R.
by Saurav A. Das on Feb 7, 2010 1:24 AM PST up reply actions
Have to ruin the fun here and bring in reality
But I doubt any of us could outplay Morrison
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
Eh, I couldn't
But I know 1, maybe 2 people who could. Future college ballers, potential nba draft picks. One of em’s probably better than Patty Mills already, and he’s only 17. Other is 16 with massive potential.
"That's a giant sig " - Ben R.
by Saurav A. Das on Feb 7, 2010 2:24 AM PST up reply actions
OK, Patty Mills could definitely outplay Morrison
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
And one of them just went off and tore two ligaments in his ankle on Friday night
There goes our school season..
"That's a giant sig " - Ben R.
by Saurav A. Das on Feb 7, 2010 10:13 PM PST up reply actions
Well speaking for myself....
I am a season ticket holder, I pay their salaries, and I have a replica Championship ring.
So I say “we”.
Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."
by pslakerfan on Feb 7, 2010 1:37 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I bet it cost alot of money for season holding am I right, how much?
by 15xtimeNBAchamps on Feb 7, 2010 1:38 AM PST up reply actions
These scrubs like Adam Morrison and Sasha need to be wrapped up in a package for Devin Harris
by 15xtimeNBAchamps on Feb 7, 2010 1:26 AM PST reply actions
Because they are trash and everyone knows trash loves trash
by 15xtimeNBAchamps on Feb 7, 2010 1:31 AM PST up reply actions
I BRAG ABOUT THE LAKERS ALL THE TIME
is that healty
by 15xtimeNBAchamps on Feb 7, 2010 1:43 AM PST reply actions
hell yeah it is..
"If you want to find the dumbest guy in the room just find the first guy to tell you how smart he is." - JG
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Feb 7, 2010 7:18 AM PST up reply actions
bynums injury
yes it is just a bone bruise but it isnt souding too good…
they said its the same knee from 2 years ago and he might have re agreevated it just a little..
i hope its not bad…
Bynum, who already regularly wears a brace on his right knee after suffering a torn medial collateral ligament last January, is now wearing a protective sleeve that holds foam-disk padding in place on his left knee.
The 7-foot, 285-pound Bynum said the collision with Jackson re-aggravated the injury he suffered to his left knee in January 2008 when he underwent arthroscopic surgery to remove cartilage debris and smooth some rough spots on the underside of his kneecap after bruising a bone in his knee and briefly dislocating his kneecap in a game against the Grizzlies.
“There’s some swelling in there,” Bynum said. “I just got to get it out and the only way to do that is rest, so, over the All-Star break in that time that we have, I should be able to get it under control.”
“It’s a pain thing and range of motion in the knee isn’t there, but I just got to get the swelling out to get it out. It’s not anything that’s going to be too bad.”
http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/news/story?id=4894388
That wasn't actually the injury that sent him to the bench today
This game, he fell and bruised his hip.
"That's a giant sig " - Ben R.
by Saurav A. Das on Feb 7, 2010 2:27 AM PST up reply actions
yes i know
lets just hope this knee injury doesnt worsen up the more he plays or if someone bangs knees with him again
Great article
Good job CA. Enjoyed reading it. Well-written.
Hope the forthcoming Bynum news will be just as good.
From the BEdge Media Row recap:
“In all seriousness, congratulations to the Lakers fans who finally had their day in the Rose Garden. But bigger congratulations to the lone Blazers fan who held a “Beat LA” sign and spent nearly five minutes jumping up and down like a maniac, flipping off every single Laker fan in sight without regard for human decency or first world mores. Just hop hop, flip flip, hop hop, flip flip and a few fight-provoking yells, which drew sidelong glances more than anything. If Nate McMillan could have borrowed some of that energy and enthusiasm for his guards maybe this game plays out differently."
" Nicolas Batum found himself in isolation on the wing, took one look at Ron Artest and then shuffled the ball off to LaMarcus Aldridge and passively hid in the opposite corner. "
Pretty funny.
"That's a giant sig " - Ben R.
Since the article focused on the stats
I’ll take the risk of being a pariah and paste this quote from BE Media Row Report for our favorite whipping boy:
“You look one way, you look another way, [Pau] Gasol was all over the place tonight,” Martell Webster said flatly. “He played a great game. Making his presence felt down in the low post.”
Everybody have a very pleasant morning.
"E-Coaches are heavy in here tonight! Take E-Sasha and put him on the E-bench on your fantasy league, that’ll show him!" - Jevon O
guys, we need to TRADE KOBEEEEEEEEEEE!! give hiim away to nets or something :D
"When kobe is on fire, basically, you lose the game" -Philly Morrison
Gasol:
“My legs are so heavy right now. It was pretty noticeable out there.”
From Kevin Ding’s column on Fisher.
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/fisher-233013-good-lakers.html
why are his legs so heavy? he needs to hire a good personal trainer in the off-season and dedicate his time to getting in great shape. it seems every season since he’s been here he complains about fatigue.
Yeah
he also plays basketball year-round. I think he has a bit of an excuse to be fatigued at this point. Especially with 5 games in 7 days.
He did play in the Euroleague Championships for Spain this last summer.
He hasnt had any rest for 3+ years now. Give him a break.
Played a deep season with the Lakers (losing in the Finals) ‘07-’08
Played in the Olympics for Spain in the summer of ‘08.
Played a full season with the Lakers (winning the Finals) "08-’09
Played in the Euroleague Championships & won it (summer of ‘09)
Currently playing a full season with the Lakers (’09-’10)
Thats ALOT of basketball.
"I work my ass off every day in practice. How many other guys can say the same thing? Not many. I'm fighting against becoming soft. That's the worse thing you can say to a basketball player." - Dennis Rodman
Too bad he also makes some boneheaded decisions at times.
I understand that he’s getting old and bad, but sometimes he commits pretty dumb fouls and always makes the wrong play in transition. Never mind the fact that he should almost never try to take it to the hoop.
As a 4-time Champ, and 14 year vet, I get confused at his decision sometimes. There’s no excuse for that.
http://twitter.com/wondahbap
did kobe bail out on his team?
"At 5:30, I thought Kobe was going to play," Lakers coach Phil Jackson said. "Then I went to the coach’s room and Kobe followed me and said. `I’m thinking about not playing tonight.’ I said, `It’s OK if you don’t.’
"Then I saw him 10 minutes later at 6 p.m. and he said, `I’m going to take the night off."’
Bryant left the locker room at the Rose Garden before reporters were allowed to enter.
unless he’s getting treated in the locker room, i think kobe needs to sit his ass on the bench and cheer his teammates. he is the leader of the team. it comes across as arrogant, to say the least, when he chooses to “take the night off” rather than watch and support his team. what kind of camaraderie is that?
we really can't get some conclusion into this
after all, he did say that he loves this team as composed right now.
"E-Coaches are heavy in here tonight! Take E-Sasha and put him on the E-bench on your fantasy league, that’ll show him!" - Jevon O
you've got a point though
but we can only speculate as to why. Maybe he can’t bear to see the outcome of the game, Win or Lose, there are some implications on him. That’s another reason I think, that Kobe does not want to rest, even when the common sense dictates it.
"E-Coaches are heavy in here tonight! Take E-Sasha and put him on the E-bench on your fantasy league, that’ll show him!" - Jevon O
kobe and bynum for lebron…cleveland would accept rather than lose james and receive nothing in return.
I'll pretend you didn't post this.
Short of LBJ telling Cleveland brass he’s not re-signing, there is NO way Cleveland could ever entertain the thought of trading LBJ. He means that much to the organization.
Also, Kobe has a no trade clause and would never allow this to happen. Plus, there are certain players that the fans have to see through to the end. I believe Kobe is one of those players. I know his day will come, but I want to see him go out as a Laker. It’s what I pay for. The Spurs would never trade TD.
Kobe has been there for this team and always plays. If he’d rather rest in the locker room, that is fine with me. I think he’s earned that right. These people are professionals. You think the other guys it matters if Kobe sitting next to them for one game? On the road?
http://twitter.com/wondahbap
Chaucer go put on a Cleveland jersey if all
you’re going to do his criticise and spread agendas. You’re coming off as a troll here. I know you aren’t, but you’re maing yourself look like one
why because i am not on kobe’s nuts like many? like u perhaps? i criticize my own team when i feel compelled to do so. i don’t care how it comes across to anybody. i praise them when they deserve it, and i criticize them the same way.
Maybe you're the one on Kobe's nuts seeing
as how I mentioned no names in my post. You’re doing nothing but spreading negativity and being a debbie downer when frankly, it’s not necessary at this point the season. All the trade this player and that player. We’re fine right now, just banged up but I believe we’ll pull through it. Go put on a Cleveland jersey if you’re not going to stick with the Lakers for better or worse.
by wavenstein on Feb 7, 2010 12:00 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Cool it, both of you
Chaucer, I happen to pride myself on my ability to criticise the team when they are in need of criticism, but people tend to take it better if you don’t come off as purely negative; just a suggestion.
And this is a public forum, so just like you have the right to post what you want within the site rules, Wavenstein has the right to reply.
"That's a giant sig " - Ben R.
by Saurav A. Das on Feb 7, 2010 11:45 PM PST up reply actions
"Shannon Brown's shot selection was still pretty bad"
Can you explain why you believe that?
Dancingberry’s play by play had Shannon down for 6 drive to the basket fo layup/dunk attempts, 2 smart 3 point attempts, 1 good iso, and one attempt he had to take with the shot clock low. Thats 10 of his 15 shots being smart. the other 5 were his mid-range pull-up which has been a high % shot for him this season I have to assume at least 1 or 2 of the 5 were good shots within the tri.
He also said “He did an excellent job working the Triangle. About the only time he didn’t was when he was smartly going for a two-for-one shot or iso’ing with the shotclock low. Both of those are typicaly Kobe roles.”
So did you just not really watch the game or do you just not like Shannon??
"There are no next times when you're competing for big things." - Tom Izzo
Go Spartans
Or do you really just like your Spartans?
Few more questions:
Who is Dancingberry?
Did you watch the game also?
Do you watch every other Lakers game?
Shannon does takes some ehh shots. He’s getting a fast trigger finger. Farmar type. I love the change of pace he provides, but he almost never or can’t make good entry passes into the post. Often he settles on the 3. Last night, he was good though.
http://twitter.com/wondahbap
i actually think shannon's trying to be kobe like
with his shots selection (although he doesn’t have the skills yet to efficiently make them). Im not gonna complain about that because i think he has time to grow and get better. He’s one of the guys that always bring the energy on both end of the floor but he does make bad decisions. sometimes he seems to get confused when to pass or shoot and end up doing his lil travel or he aimlessly dribbles the ball until he loses it or makes a bad play.
Oh theres no doubt I love my Spartans
Its the only reason Im a member of this blog. Dancingberry is the Editor-in-Chief of Lakersground.net the most populated place for lakers fans on the internet(that I have found). He does fantastic recaps for the players. giving a play by play of everything they did.
No I didnt watch the game thats why I deferred to DB’s recap because I didnt get the game in Michigan. Once again no I only get national games ABC, ESPN, TNT.
I know Shannon has been a little to tigger happy with the three and has had problems getting it to the post( Like the play were he waved off Odom vs the Nuggets and took the bad jumper towards the end of the game.) I was only talking about last night
"There are no next times when you're competing for big things." - Tom Izzo
Go Spartans
I assume you two know who the real "dancing" Barry was, right?
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1121778/index.htm
Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."
Let me get this straight ...
You accuse me of either not watching the game or having biased analysis based on a game you didn’t even watch? I’m sorry my recap didn’t paint your favorite player as rosily as you would like. Perhaps you’d like to volunteer to write for our blog to ensure my hatred for Shannon doesn’t have too great an effect. Otherwise, feel free to learn all you need to know about the Lakers from other sites, since clearly I don’t know what I’m talking about.
Shannon is a good player, and I certainly don’t dislike him. But his shot selection in games leaves a lot to be desired. I’ve seen him over-dribble the ball and then hoist up a bad shot far too many times to ignore it when he has a game where that shot falls for him. Last night, Shannon actually did a better job of attacking the rim and not settling for those jump-shots. But, just because he did better doesn’t mean I’m going to ignore the fact that he did take shots that did not fit within the context of the triangle. Since I did watch the game, and you did not, you don’t have a leg to stand on in arguing whether that’s true or not.
Put it to you this way. Brown had 15 shots last night. He made 8. He took 9 shots from more than 16 feet out. He made 3. Brown went 5-6 inside 16 feet, and 3-9 outside of 16 feet. So yeah, I’m going to go ahead and stick by my mild criticism of his shot selection. Last night it made the difference between Brown having a great game and a good game. Most of the time, it makes the difference between him having a good game and a bad game. Either way, it remains a valid point.
by C.A. Clark on Feb 7, 2010 3:00 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
This
I’ve seen him over-dribble the ball and then hoist up a bad shot far too many times to ignore it when he has a game where that shot falls for him. Last night, Shannon actually did a better job of attacking the rim and not settling for those jump-shots.
On the 2nd sentence, he still settled for long jumpshots on several occasions last night, after overdribbling. So. He’s lucky his 3s went in. Otherwise, it would be a slap in the head, not a pat
"E-Coaches are heavy in here tonight! Take E-Sasha and put him on the E-bench on your fantasy league, that’ll show him!" - Jevon O
C.A. has a good point!
I like Shannon as much as the next Laker fan, his shot selection is murky at best, when he double dribbles I want to pull my hair out, he has focus issues at times running the triangle, he’s gotten a lot better, there’s still improvements to be had. I think that’s all C.A. was trying to say.
by GRICE on Feb 7, 2010 3:14 PM PST reply actions
shannon needs to stop thinking he's kobe
and lamar needs to stop thinking he’s dirk…
but other than that…i really do like both players.
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