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David Friedman is On Point ... Again


This is one guy that will you give you the straight scoop, no agendas, no yellow journalism just to create controversy and get hits.

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Some people still insist that Michael Jordan single-handedly carried the Chicago Bulls to six championships, despite the fact that Jordan had one of the NBA's 50 Greatest Players by his side during each of those title runs--and despite the fact that Jordan's career playoff record sans Scottie Pippen is 1-9. That is not a misprint--the player who is often called the greatest of all time won exactly one playoff game without having Pippen as a teammate. Pippen's brilliance offensively as a point forward and defensively as both a lock down defender and a devastating help defender enabled Jordan to sprint down court and obtain good post position offensively while also relieving him of some defensive burdens

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Note that it is possible to make an objective, skill set based comparison of Bryant and James without saying much--positive or negative--regarding their teammates. So why do some people insist on making asinine statements to the effect that if James were a Laker the Lakers would win more than 70 games or that if Bryant were a Cav the Cavs would not be as good as they are now? It is fascinating to observe how so many commentators rush to denigrate James' "supporting cast" in much the same fashion that Jordan's "supporting cast" has been belittled over the years.

And there's a lot more gold in them hills, make sure to take a gander when you have 10 minutes or so.

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Man he's right on

The 90’s Bulls were like having Kobe and Lebron on the same team, plus having one of the best at their trade skill players for a supporting cast – like Rodman the one man rebounding machine. They were so much better than any of their competition it was sickening, and still almost lost to the Jazz.

Magic made me a Laker fan.

by thestuff01 on Feb 6, 2010 2:21 AM PST reply actions  

Not to mention, that Rodman will probably be considered for the HOF.

And I think he should get it, even though my opinion is a little biased. Probably the greatest rebounder of all time, considering how undersized he was.

"I work my ass off every day in practice. How many other guys can say the same thing? Not many. I'm fighting against becoming soft. That's the worse thing you can say to a basketball player." - Dennis Rodman

by LakersFoEva on Feb 8, 2010 7:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Friedman and Lazenby are both must reads.

by intuitive on Feb 6, 2010 5:18 PM PST reply actions  

I've always liked Friedman. I link him a lot.

I just wish he could let go of some of the anger in some of his posts. I think he lets his personal feelings or run ins with or about other writers and/or publications affect him too much. It inadvertently takes away from his point.

http://twitter.com/wondahbap

by wondahbap on Feb 7, 2010 9:57 AM PST reply actions  

He gets riled up over many of the misconceptions that “big time” mainstream writers/announcers spew. I think Friedman genuinely thinks that 97% of the basketball sphere media outlets are complete idiots.

I always wonder why guys like Lazenby and Friedman don’t garner as many hits as some of the others because they completely deserve it. Friedman definitely knows what he’s talking about.

"There is no substitute for hustle and if you don't hustle there will be a substitute." -Tex Winter

by intuitive on Feb 7, 2010 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

must have been his blog design

i know that his writing is great, but the thing is, his blog is never gonna attract more than a cult following because 1) its design is horribly flawed (when was the last time you see any website with a sidebar BIGGER than EVERYTHING else?! it’s 2/3 of the page for god’s sake!) and 2) his detailed analyses are too long and complex for casual fans to read.

by oxymor0n on Feb 7, 2010 5:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Well he doesn’t cater to the casual fan.

"There is no substitute for hustle and if you don't hustle there will be a substitute." -Tex Winter

by intuitive on Feb 7, 2010 10:55 PM PST up reply actions  

yep

that dude is hardcore. I like it. Like I said, he doesn’t just follow the trendy stories, or make up controversies to get hits.

"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson

by Gil Meriken on Feb 7, 2010 11:03 PM PST up reply actions  

He’s straightforward and tells it just like he sees it without exaggerating (Plaschke) and without writing to stir up controversy (Rosen)

"There is no substitute for hustle and if you don't hustle there will be a substitute." -Tex Winter

by intuitive on Feb 8, 2010 6:49 PM PST up reply actions  

which is why he (he meaning Friedman) is one of my favorites to read.

"There is no substitute for hustle and if you don't hustle there will be a substitute." -Tex Winter

by intuitive on Feb 8, 2010 6:49 PM PST up reply actions  

agree

really hard to read his posts with that design/format, but they’re very good

"E-Coaches are heavy in here tonight! Take E-Sasha and put him on the E-bench on your fantasy league, that’ll show him!" - Jevon O

by altree on Feb 8, 2010 4:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah.

He definitely needs a more reader friendly design. I think he feels the need to show his credentials, so he makes sure we see them all.

I like that his analysis is long and detailed. The problem with most writers is they are too busy catering to the casual (dumb) fan.

http://twitter.com/wondahbap

by wondahbap on Feb 9, 2010 6:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Ya I love this guy's articles

I always thought that when it comes to the topic of the Lakers, SS&R members should be required to read his posts – just for the sake of getting educated. If we can find a way to have his Laker/Kobe articles on the frontpage of the SS&R website (without the issue of copyright infringement of course). Besides, Josh also reads him a lot

by Ico24 on Feb 9, 2010 3:00 AM PST reply actions  

he makes some good points

But David Friedman just plain rubs me the wrong way.

And I feel like maybe it’s because he does play to my biases, my Lakers fandom, but when I read him I feel like I’m not really getting anything validated because his attention to evidence is selective in his pro-Kobe-ness. My impression from most things he writes about Kobe and the Lakers is, “Well, of course you conclude that—you went in looking for that!” And his interpretation of statistics is often suspect.

So, not my cup of tea in general. But I agree with his point that the cult of Jordan is also very selective in terms of the evidence in support of their icon.

My own feeling is that if you could take the 1991 Jordan and his 1991 skill set, and face him up against the 2009 Kobe and his 2009 skill set, Kobe would win that matchup. That’s probably a fairly unpopular stance outside Lakers circles. But I don’t think it’s all that unusual a position. It’s like saying that Liszt, say, played piano better in 1850 than Mozart did in 1780. Of course he did—Liszt had the benefit of playing music composed by Mozart (and Beethoven, and Chopin, and himself)! While Mozart couldn’t go forward in time and take advantage of all that happened in the next 70 years. Kobe himself has said that there is very little that is original in his game, that he incorporates the games of the masters.

Now, as to what would happen if you took Jordan and just moved him forward in time 15 years (or, conversely, took Kobe and moved him back 15 years)—that’s a very good question. I have no idea. My guess is that Jordan would win that matchup, but it’d be close. And the longer a series they played, the better a chance that Kobe would prevail. He strikes me as a pretty analytical guy when it comes to on-the-court stuff, although that could be simply a product of having a lot more stuff to analyze now than there was when Jordan was playing.

by BrianTung on Feb 9, 2010 2:41 PM PST reply actions  

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