Some Stuff Happened Today, Some Stuff Didn't
by DexterFishmore on Feb 15, 2010 5:09 PM PST
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PrintThe Lakers reassembled in Los Angeles this fine Monday to resume basketballish activities. From my vast network of spies, informants and double-agents in the league office, here's the latest on le purple et golde.
Luke Walton - is out of action indefinitely with a pinched nerve in his back. He missed two months earlier this season with a similar injury and, since returning in mid-January, has been averaging barely six minutes a game, so this doesn't materially affect the Laker rotation. If the team ever reached a point where it needed Luke Walton in a crucial moment, it was in trouble anyway.
Kobe Bryant - is back. He participated fully in practice today and, according to ESPN reporter Beto Duran, walked off the court "with a smile on his face and a strut in his step." He'll play tomorrow night against Golden State.
Andrew Bynum - will also play tomorrow night, although he still complains of pain in his bruised hip.
Kirk Hinrich - is still not a Laker. The rumor swamp as it relates to Lakerdom has been totally quiet today. On the other hand, can you prove Hinrich wasn't in Los Angeles this afternoon shopping for condos in Rancho Palos Verdes? Yeah, that's what I thought.
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thanks for the updates..
hope walton comes back soon.. he is a big time stabilized for our second unit… like him or not there is no denying he is important to our team….
i wish kobe and bynum take more time off… especially bynum… get fully healthy before you start playing…
and if buss doesnt care about luxury tax for the next 2 years then go ahead and get hinrich… i’d give up farmar or shannon brown to make it happen too..
If Tyrus mentions anything regarding moving...
…then we’re getting Kirk.
by I Fix Machine on Feb 15, 2010 5:21 PM PST up reply actions
Beto Duran - Wasn't he in Extreme of "More than Words" fame?
Oh, no, that was Nuno Bettencourt
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
Portland has no reason to take on Vujacic's contract.
Although maybe Tyrus Thomas can entice them to take Vujacic. Lakers and Bulls could still make a trade with each other. Vujacic, Morrison, Farmar for Hinirch and James Johnson works or some other contract.
The Lakers could stand pat and wait for the buyouts.
we could have added some veterans when they have been bought out the last 2 years...
yet we havent…
i doubt we do that this year either
The Bulls don’t wnat to take back any contracts that aren’t expiring.
"There is no substitute for hustle and if you don't hustle there will be a substitute." -Tex Winter
Right, but they'll still be shedding salary. Plus, no one else wants to take on Hinrich's contract
besides the Lakers.
Right
If eating Sasha’s contract is the only way to move Hinrich, the Bulls might just hold their nose and swallow.
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by DexterFishmore on Feb 15, 2010 7:47 PM PST up reply actions
In practice PJ sounded like Sasha had turned a corner in the Utah game
Sasha- SF
Pau- PF
Farmar- PG
Brown- SG
Sounds like an experiment to me.
So, How’s by everyone else.
by GRICE on Feb 15, 2010 6:08 PM PST reply actions
Sasha will probably see some minutes with Walton out for good
I don’t think PJ’s ready to supplant Ammo into the rotation
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
ammo might be gone by thursday...
hopefully
don't count on it
Lakers are knee deep in taxes. Buss isn’t gonna take on more salary unless some ridiculously good deal comes up…
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
or
they might just dump his contract for a draft pick like what they did with chris mihm…
"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."
sounds like losing in a bag to me
im really going to miss luke and sasha is worse than kwame
YOU CAN PUT IT ON THE BOARD YES!
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sasha has been doing well recently
lets see if he can keep it up and hes defintly better then kwame
Okay so I went around looking for practice reports on bulls blogs
just to prove you wrong
but i gave up shortly. I’ll get you next time, point four.
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
Strutting is good.
I’ve had Kobe withdrawal this past week or so. Need basketball back in my life. All-Star weekend sucked.
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by PeanutButterSpread on Feb 15, 2010 6:17 PM PST reply actions
i really can’t go a day without watching some type of game (bball, baseball, or football)
i’m fucking obsessed
"Champions aren't made in the gym. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision."
- Muhammad Ali
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Luke is fuckin done
just waive him if you have to. How the fuck did he hurt his back over All star weekend?? He wasnt even playing in any games. Unless he took to the streets and played in the pickup games….
sad case
just like his father…
get well soon luke… the lakers second unit will sorely miss you
What would be the point in waiving him?
"There is no substitute for hustle and if you don't hustle there will be a substitute." -Tex Winter
just cuz he useless
and waiving him is a last resort. Of course he trade to ship him out in some kind of deal first but since this injury is pretty much career threatening, i doubt any team will take him.
by desecrator09 on Feb 15, 2010 7:38 PM PST up reply actions
i dont think its really career threatening
unless the condition persists for much longer and gets worse….
"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."
Where did you read that this injury is “career-threatening” ? Why would the Lakers waive him? They would still have to pay the remainder of his contract which runs all the way until 2013, and he’d still count towards the salary cap?
"There is no substitute for hustle and if you don't hustle there will be a substitute." -Tex Winter
dude its a pinched nerve in his back
which hasnt even healed yet. And he didnt even play any games this past weekend and its still killing him. He’s just like his daddy. Sucks cuz i feel bad for him
by desecrator09 on Feb 15, 2010 7:52 PM PST up reply actions
don't feel too bad
A millionaire who REALLY gets paid tons more than he is worth…for playing basketball! Even though he’s hurt, i don’t feel too bad for him.
And i’m not the type of guy who thinks basketball players get paid too much. Players like Kobe/Lebron/Wade/et al are getting shafted. They truly are worth 2-3 times more then they are getting paid. Just look at soccer with no salary cap. Ronaldo was purchased for like 150 million or something.
and this is via Kevin Ding's twitter:
Walton has same pinched nerve in back and — to be frank — is unlikely to help rest of season. Could affect trading Morrison
by desecrator09 on Feb 15, 2010 7:55 PM PST up reply actions
Such good news to hear, Kobe is back
oh lets do this Lakers, repeat, repeat, hopefully lakers go on some type of run, get some consistency and get KIRK…LOL
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Since reading your post, “More Than Words” is now ingrained in my brain.
Is there any chance Charlotte wants another dark haired, three-point shooting, foreign player with a “V” in his name? Golden State maybe? How about a trade for Steph Curry, then they can have a match set.
then you couldn't make things new/just by sayin "I love you" ...
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
24 hour surveillance via ankle bracelet on Kirk Hinrich...
…would still not satiate the appetite for Laker trade rumors.
Why the heck are so many of us obsessed with acquiring him? We’re confident our team is good enough to win the championship… is it a desperate hunger for a defensive PG? A psychological mistrust of Jordan Farmar? The prospect of shipping out Sasha? Changes in global weather patterns?
If anyone has a theory I’d love to hear it, but hang on for a moment while I reload the news page to see if Hinrich is a Laker yet.
by deadmuse on Feb 15, 2010 7:53 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
You've seen Derek Fisher play, right?
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by DexterFishmore on Feb 15, 2010 8:02 PM PST up reply actions
If Hinrich is meant to replace Fisher
How will that help, as Farmar will be going, and Hinrich is at most a 20% improvement over Farmar, if at all (the 20% is calculated based on my basketball calculator that I purchased at Office Depot)?
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
I don't think Farmar is going anywhere this year
It sounds like the outgoing assets would be AMMO, Sasha and other considerations (i.e., cash and/or picks).
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by DexterFishmore on Feb 15, 2010 8:44 PM PST up reply actions
But I know what you're getting at
The usefulness of the acquisition depends in large part on whose minutes Hinrich would be taking. I did a post on that very topic a few weeks ago.
http://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2010/1/28/1273723/kirk-hinrich-is-hurting-my-brain
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by DexterFishmore on Feb 15, 2010 8:48 PM PST up reply actions
Hinrich would benefit the Lakers long term though, or at least for the Lakers forseeable “window” of opportunity. What are the Lakers going to do next year? Farmar will leave, Fisher will be a season older, and Shannon Brown isn’t the answer for the Lakers point guard woes. Hinrich solves some of that.
"There is no substitute for hustle and if you don't hustle there will be a substitute." -Tex Winter
how about moving up in the draft to pick a decent PG?
"Champions aren't made in the gym. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision."
- Muhammad Ali
"Words of wisdom is nothing but foolishness to the unwise"
easy
bomb the rest of the season…lets do it!!!
"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."
I know you're joking, but...
that still doesn’t work. The Lakers don’t have a first-round pick.
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by DexterFishmore on Feb 15, 2010 9:59 PM PST up reply actions
isnt it protected??
so if we get a top 14 pick… memphis will have to wait till next year
by matthewmafa on Feb 15, 2010 10:04 PM PST up reply actions
It's only top 6 protected
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by DexterFishmore on Feb 15, 2010 10:23 PM PST up reply actions
how bout just drafting scottie reynolds in the second round
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by LakersFoEva on Feb 16, 2010 10:56 AM PST up reply actions
Thankfully there's a game tomorrow
Hinrich or no Hinrich, I get to watch Laker basketball again, and that is something to be thankful for.
Lamar = Laker for Life...Go Pads...Go Bolts
by mrbarneydangles on Feb 15, 2010 8:40 PM PST reply actions
espn reports that the cavs are going after corey maggette if they dont get stoudamire...
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4917483
the heat are going hard after stoudamire now…
wow
cant help but wonder why the cavs are so desperate to make a blockbuster trade
theyre already cruising as it is…
"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."
they want to impress lebron
so he sstays…
they are so dumb… lebron is going to stay anyways..
by matthewmafa on Feb 15, 2010 10:04 PM PST up reply actions
You don't understand
It doesn’t matter how much talent we surround LeBron with. He’ll want to move to New York. He adores NYC. He loves the stardom of the Big Apple. It’s his drive to be the richest and most famous athlete in the NBA. He lives for attention. He lives for fame.
This is how he thinks:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04U2wHbNRuc&feature=related
The only way we can guarantee he’ll stay is if we win a championship, in which case he’ll be pressured into staying, because he’ll look stupid for leaving a team that just won the NBA Finals.
Yeah, you can tell I’m having a crisis of faith. That’s the difference between me and a Laker fan.
Maybe I’m missing the sarcasm here Wave but I’m hoping there’s alot of it.
"I don’t dance too much." --Mike Holmgren
by johnnyphoenix on Feb 16, 2010 2:10 AM PST up reply actions
If you’re not being sarcastic…and I hope you are….maybe you’d like a breath mint for your next drop by over at SS&R.
"I don’t dance too much." --Mike Holmgren
by johnnyphoenix on Feb 16, 2010 2:15 AM PST up reply actions
are you serious
tell me you are jokin….
the guy is never going to leave cleveland.. his reputation will be gone..
Cruising yes…beat the lakers in 7? eh…I’m not so sure about that.
"I don’t dance too much." --Mike Holmgren
by johnnyphoenix on Feb 16, 2010 2:17 AM PST up reply actions
haha
i remember that show…watched it a long long time ago
"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."
those were some good times
back when all i had to worry about was nappy time…
"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."
oh
i applied to Santa cruz…well as an aspiring undergrad
its nice school…located next to the coastline, Big Sur, etc…good luck man
"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."
Graduated from UCSC last year, let me know if you guys have questions :)
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
No Heinrich
It won’t be Heinrich, Mitch wants Salmons. You are more likely to see the 3-team with the Blazers and Bulls, but Salmons would come to town and so would some trade exceptions from Chicago.
This saves the Lakers money. About $3M of cap space. It also gives them a real SF off the bench. A solid one at that.
salmons sucks coming off the bench...
plus we have artest who can play the 3 and kobe who can play the 3… sahsa can play it in short spurts… we dont need salmons
I dunno
I think Salmons is better than Sasha. It’d be much nicer to have a 2/3 rotation of Artest, Kobe, and Salmons than Artest, Kobe, and Sasha.
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
don't think phil has ever even thought about rotating Shannon through the 3
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
bahhhhhhhhhhhh
why must NBC tape delay all their events? it pains me to hear the results of a race/ event two or three hours before they actually show it on tv. cant they realize we live in the 21st century and have the internet and twitter to provide results instantly do they expect us to avoid those resources??? and it sucks even more for the west coast who dont get to see any of the events live despite the fact Vancouver is in our timezone….screw the primetime slot, just show the damn event live when it actually HAPPENS!!!
Thats my off topic rant of the day…
"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."
yeah
they think that if they show events in the primetime slot theyll get more viewers. but hell I am willing to stay up later to watch an event live if I have to. In fact most people are willing to do that. Its not going to lead to a significant increase or decrease in ratings by showing it live. just imagine if they tape delayed the superbowl or NBA finals so they can fit it into a “more suitable timeslot” for viewers…thats how dumb this is.
"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."
i wish
but i dont have cable…this sucks
"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."
Apparently Vancouver had a shortage of snow
They should have asked the USA to export some. There’s snow in every state except Hawaii.
yeah
although where I live outside of Toronto it’s been pretty cold so I can still play hockey on a local river. Snow ruins the ice, so I’m not against the no-snow thing
Canada is nice
id like to go there one day…like for vacation or studying abroad…etc.
"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."
Montreal is the shizzle, I really enjoyed that city.
" I'm a human, not a sandwich"
by true_lakerfan on Feb 16, 2010 10:50 AM PST up reply actions
It's hard to make the opening ceremonies worse
But somehow NBC manages to do it. I wish those announcers would just shut up during the performances. I don’t care what’s premiering when or who’s involved in what. Just let me enjoy the music and light show!
if the cavs acquire amare (and i don’t think they will) before the deadline, any chance that pisses shaq off to the point he asks to be released? if so, i would like the lakers to sign him. otherwise a team like boston might pick him up. bynum is hurt, and given his history we could use more insurance coverage. i have voiced my sentiment about (not wanting) shaq back, but i’d take him back this season if it means making the cavs weaker.
shaq isnt really much of an insurance
hes old and injury prone
we dont really need him for that type of use…placing pau at center and odom in the starting 5 has worked out well in the past for the most part when bynum has gone down…
"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."
i think it would help us. he’s old, but he is still tough and very physical. which is more than i can say about bynum. he is still a huge body that overpowers most nba players. if we face the celtics, he’d help us against that physical team, especially their big center.
Plus you know he knows how to work the triangle.
I mean i know it wont happen but if it could i wouldnt be against it. As much as kobe and shaq had their problems they worked magic on the court. But i dont think kobe and shaq would reunite just yet. Maybe after kobe wins another one, maybe.
I think shaq and gasol could work together sinc both know the triangle. It could work better than drew and gasol have so far.
" I'm a human, not a sandwich"
by true_lakerfan on Feb 16, 2010 10:55 AM PST up reply actions
Shaq won't want to leave the Cavs
Not this season, anyway.
And besides, he’d be a bad fit in LA. He’s burned just about every bridge with Kobe with therapsongthatI’mnotgoingtoprovidealinktobecauseiwillsurelybebannedifIdo
i also doubt it. but i am hypothesizing in the event the cavs acquire amare. i don’t know that amare is crazy about going there because shaq is there. he didn’t like playing with shaq in phoenix and he was vocal about it.
Yeah. Of course, now he denies it and says he wouldn't mind playing with shaq
and it’s probably because the Suns demanded he make that statement so as not to throw a wrench in their plans.
Sigh…February 18th can’t come soon enough…
Yeah we are
We’re giving up some proven and rapidly developing youth. And we’re giving up our most storied center, which is stupid. There’s no one who wants or needs Ilgauskas more than Shaq.
if the cavs acquire amare
Lebron and Amar’e are already in personal discussions about the matter.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzKCtMr4CtI&feature=related
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by johnnyphoenix on Feb 16, 2010 12:51 AM PST up reply actions
"Whatever happens in the second part of the season, we’ve just got to play the right way," Vujacic said. "When we play the triangle, when we move the ball and we play as a team, that’s when I enjoy playing – within the system. That’s how we played years ago, and that’s how we should play in order to win."
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Vujacic doesn’t mean to complain or bad-mouth, but he would love a return to the spring of 2008, when he was out there so often and producing at crunchtime. That idea is not nearly as sexy as the prospect of Hinrich coming aboard. But Vujacic has played very well in 14- and 16-minute runs the past two games and – according to Jackson – "changing the game" when sent in for the struggling Walton in Utah.
"Everybody’s saying that I’m back or ‘Machine’s back’ or whatever," Vujacic said. "But to me, it’s funny; I was just not playing the first part of the season."
Uummmm…
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/vujacic-234504-elsewhere-help.html
"There is no substitute for hustle and if you don't hustle there will be a substitute." -Tex Winter
Whatever gets you through the night, Sasha
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by DexterFishmore on Feb 16, 2010 12:46 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Whatever gets you through the night, Sasha
Did Kobe give Sasha permission to speak on such things? …cause really…he shouldn’t if he didn’t.
"I don’t dance too much." --Mike Holmgren
by johnnyphoenix on Feb 16, 2010 2:12 AM PST up reply actions
Marcus Camby to the Blazers for Travis Outlaw, Steve Blake, and cash.
The deal makes no sense for the Clippers and supposedly Camby is none to happy with the deal.
"There is no substitute for hustle and if you don't hustle there will be a substitute." -Tex Winter
That means the 3-team trade...
Portland doesn’t help facilitate the deal between Chicago and LA… so either Mitch goes for Hinrich/ Salmons straight up or starts all over by roping in a different third team.
I have no life, so...
3 team trade scenario:
Swap works on Trade Machine
Lakers get: Hinrich
Rockets get: Miller, Thomas, Vujacic
Bulls get: McGrady, Ammo
Rockets for the winnnnn.
Wait, they get Sasha too.
hmmm.
by Svedish Chef on Feb 16, 2010 4:55 AM PST up reply actions
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