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Andrew Bynum, All-Star Snub?

All-Star weekend is well under way, with the culminating event of the 2010 NBA All-Star Game fast approaching. We already know which Lakers were selected for the event, SG Kobe Bryant and PF/C Pau Gasol. We also know that Kobe is sitting out the game due to 'injury' (honestly, I highly doubt that word is even in his vocabulary). The question is, were those the only two Lakers deserving of playing in the All-Star game?

Now, if you can read the title to this post (and, if you can't, drop everything and get to an optometrist), you'll probably have guessed that I'm referring to Andrew Bynum. Now, do I honestly think that Bynum was 'snubbed' from the All-Star game this year? Short answer is no. In fact, the long answer is no, too. Amare Stoudemire has actually been having a quite good year, as have Chris Kaman, Marc Gasol and Zach Randolph- all better that Bynum's. Bynum has shown the short stretches of being a player with an indiscernible ceiling, but consistency is an issue, and his season numbers aren't too impressive.

Notice the use of the word indiscernible. One may think that's on odd choice of word, or simply that I'm a mediocre writer and I used a bad synonym for 'high'. One would be wrong, I chose that word carefully, as it is possibly the most accurate word in describing the young Bynum's potential.

Now, I make no claim to being a farseer (if I were, I'd certainly be off rolling in the piles of money brought in through successful lottery attempts in lieu of writing an article like this at 2AM), but here I shall, not as much predict, as discuss Bynum's possible potential.

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We fans are a fickle bunch. Right now, there's murmurs of benching him. A few years back, there was that infamous video in which Kobe demanded that Mitch 'ship [Bynum's] ass out', and back then most of us agreed with Kobe. We've gone from that, to many of us staunchly defending Bynum and refusing to even consider trading him for Chris Bosh, who is a top-10 player in the League today, possibly the best PF in the League this season (Timmy and Kev are past their prime, Pau's missed a lot of time); all based on Bynum's 'potential'.

That's a fickle concept, potential. How do we determine what his potential is? Do we point at instances of him having good games and say 'there it is'? Or do we believe it's somewhere further than that? Do we look at his 42/15 against the Los Angeles Clippers last year, and expect that from him on a nightly basis? Out of those options, the only certainty is that expecting 42/15 on a nightly basis is ridiculous; the kid's quite obviously no Wilt Chamberlain. It's reasonable to say his potential is to play at or somewhat above what he does now on a 'good' day, as he IS still young and not in his prime yet.

I do believe, however, that his youth is overstated. He is 22, true, but he has already been in this League 5 years, which is more than the 4 that an average first-rounder averages. He has put miles on his body, and has had plenty of experience manning the pivot. As such, him not having a better season than 15/8 is somewhat disconcerting, especially considering that Wilt by his fifth season was averaging 37/22, Shaq 26/12.5, Kareem 27/14.5, and Hakeem 25/13.5. That, however, should not be surpising. Those 4 were probably the 4 greatest Centers of all time, and even the biggest Bynum fan would have trouble arguing that Bynum can vie for a place at such a table. Perhaps a more accurate comparison would be current All-NBA First Team Center Dwight Howard... guess which one his fifth season was (hint: it was last season, where he won DPoY, averaged 20.5/14/3, and led his team to the Finals). Huh.

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When I was young, I would never understand why my mother refused to allow me to constantly eat candy - I believed that as it tasted delicious, it should be a staple of my diet, whilst my mother was adamant it was a 'sometimes thing'. The questions that went through my head when she said this were 'Why?' and 'Is it always a 'sometimes thing'?'. The same questions apply looking at the Bynum of these images.

The numbers seem to say it's unlikely Drew will even be as good as Dwight. In this case, however, the numbers may be misleading. Even the most casual observer would notice that Drew is more skilled than Dwight offensively, but Dwight is so much more athletic. Athleticism is fickle, an injury or Father Time will take it away eventually. Skills, if kept honed, never fade. Drew has learnt his skillset from possibly the most skilled Center of all time, NBA All-Time leading scorer Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, which can only mean good things (unfortunately, Kareem was recently diagnosed with Leukemia, and Bynum thought it best to cease training with Kareem).

So, if Bynum is so much more skilled offensively than Dwight, what gives? One may try arguing the depth of his team leads to a lack of shots, but Dwight is averaging only 9 shots a game this season, and 12 last, so it's fair ground there. The most obvious argument is that Drew has not even played a full season since his 'breakout' in January of 08, due to knee injuries. While this may raise alarm bells in the heads of some, these injuries were both caused by teammates colliding into him (LO and Kobe, respectively), and were freak accidents - by no means do they mean he is injury-prone.

The most vague factor of all is athleticism. While Andrew Bynum cannot ever hope to match the athleticism of Dwight (only Wilt and maybe Bill Russel were more athletic Centers than Dwight), his athletic ceiling is highly relevant to this discussion. While the pre-injury Bynum showed a large athletic potential, being 7'1"/285 and still having a 36-38" vertical leap, the successive knee injuries have taken a highly visible toll on his athleticism. Alley-oops which he used to flush with authority, he often cannot get up high enough to catch, or simply lays in. The question is, how much will he recover? This hinges much on how much of the decreased athleticism is actually physical, and how much is mental, something only Andrew knows. Needless to say, if he wishes to overtake Dwight, some recovery is needed.

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It's so good, yet so rare..

What brought this question of Bynum's potential to mind was those Chris Bosh trade rumours of a while back. It was a no-brainer to me, no matter Bynum's potential, Chris Bosh was a guaranteed top-10 player in the NBA, something which Bynum was far from accomplishing. There were many, however, who viciously defended Bynum, all based on his youth and potential. The youth factor was irrelevant in my eyes, as Bosh has only 4 years' of age on Bynum, and two years' of NBA experience. The potential factor is what intrigues me. Chris Bosh is currently averaging 24.4/11.4 for the season, is an Olympian and has multiple All-Star appearances under his belt. Bynum has nothing that can compete with this, other than his potential. Chris Bosh is close to 20/10 for his career, while Bynum is a comparatively paltry 10/6. Chris Bosh is still only 26 and has the potential to be even better, he only has two more years' experience than Bynum. The question begs asking that do we believe, in two years, our Drew shall be putting up 25/12 on a nightly basis? If we don't, how do we believe he's better than Bosh based on potential?

In terms of physical attributes, Chris Bosh is a shade under two inches shorter, but has a tiny advantage wingspan-wise (7'3.5" to 7'3"), and has a 38-40" vertical in comparison to Drew's peak 36-38" (Drew currently can't be getting more than 30-32"). He's faster, more enduring, and handles extended minutes better (37mpg for his career, compared to 23.4 for Bynum).

How do people see Bynum as better?

I shan't go into the question of whether Bynum can be the best Center in the NBA, I just don't see it happening. Even when Dwight's athleticism inevitably declines, there shall still be young beasts like Brook Lopez and Marc Gasol (both having comparable or better seasons than Bynum) to duke it out for the mantle of best big man in the game.

The relevant question is, what is his ceiling? Perennial All-Star? Franchise Player of a Championship Contender? Part of a One-Two punch (Chris Paul? xP)? Stuck in mediocrity? Or *shudders* injury-plagued 'could've-been'? Back to the All-Star Game, how many appearances will he deserve? Starting, off the bench?

I'll leave you guys to duke it out, with some videos for you to drool over. (-:













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Totally agree

He should be in All-star (because of his potential and his ability) this season. He really needs to be consist otherwise he should be the back-up center of Pau (not because of his skills but because of his attitude and energy on the floor. In the video, it proves that he can be in the same class as Shaq IF he plays with his potential and believe in himself.)

by kennypjl on Feb 13, 2010 11:50 AM PST reply actions  

i agree with your claim about his youth being overstated. 5 years in this league is enough to establish yourself and show what you can do. perhaps he has shown us. i’ve been conflicted over whether to keep bynum or trade him. sometimes i wish for one and the other. realistically, i don’t see the bosh trade happening. bosh recently stated he would not want to be traded to dallas because it is dirk’s team and they both play the same position (and that you can’t have two big dogs on that team). i think the same goes for his being in L.A. truth be told, i rather keep bynum over bosh because it isn’t like bynum’s game is emphatically bad, and because of bynum’s size—a true center.

i do think that if he were on another team, he’d be averaging at least 20 pts and 10 boards a game, provided he stayed healthy. also, i don’t want to undermine the importance of athleticism. if andrew had more, he’d be better by leaps and bounds. it would help him make up for his defensive lapses, which often times seems due to his lack of quickness and foot speed. alas, i do think drew is injury prone. freak accident or not, he got hurt. once again he is hurt this season. apparently his knee injury of 2008 is still bothering him now. he is injury prone until he proves otherwise….ultimately, the kid thus far has shown he will be an above average center. there is no ground to argue that he’ll be more than that.

by chaucer on Feb 13, 2010 12:03 PM PST reply actions  

toni braxton will replace kobe bryant in helping shannon brown in the dunk contest. when asked whether braxton had something up her sleeves, brown replied “she won’t be wearing any.”

by chaucer on Feb 13, 2010 12:06 PM PST reply actions  

chaucer

i totally agree with the comments on your first post. and your second post was absolutely entertaining.

great read, btw, saurav.

by callpocket8 on Feb 13, 2010 12:15 PM PST reply actions  

love the last video just because of the song

"Champions aren't made in the gym. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision."

- Muhammad Ali

"Words of wisdom is nothing but foolishness to the unwise"

by AmarDude on Feb 13, 2010 12:20 PM PST reply actions  

ship him

I agree with Saurav’s comments, just like I did last time — I don’t know if it’s just bad knees or laziness, but Bynum’s reputation on defense is terrible, and he always seems to be in the middle of botched plays. He’s skilled at shooting but not passing out of a double, and when he messes up he doesn’t get back on defense to make up for his mistakes. Lakers would be better served by someone who could run the system, play better than average defense, and rebound. Lamar’s getting 15 rebounds a game, what’s Bynum’s excuse?

by j-head on Feb 13, 2010 12:51 PM PST reply actions  

I agree with everything, especially the bosh trade.

by Svedish Chef on Feb 13, 2010 1:28 PM PST reply actions  

We all know that there are certain physical and mental gifts that can't be learned

You either have them or you don’t. Potential, and flashes of greatness is not enough to pin the future of this team on. Not to mention, although unfortunate, the effect Bynum’s injured knees have had on him. Currently, the Lakers don’t need offense from the Center position. Now, I’m talking about the future of this team. I’m only referring to this current Phil Jackson, Kobe Bryant, triangle team. There are three players who the Lakers rely deeply for offense, Pau and Kobe. The entire team has to play defense but Bynum is the only one hell bent on putting all his energy on offense. You can just look at his game to see how much more effort he puts on the offensive side. I just don’t like the idea that if the Lakers have a chance to win several titles with Kobe by getting a better defensive player that they wouldn’t do it because they are thinking of the future with Bynum which there is no guarantee of him being that great leader.

"If you want to find the dumbest guy in the room just find the first guy to tell you how smart he is." - JG

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Feb 13, 2010 2:01 PM PST reply actions  

We doin an all-star day thread?

Dwight Howard is definitely going to be an analyst or a color commentary guy when he’s done playing. He’s all over the place chattin it up with the media and giving his insight.

The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.

by Justin N. on Feb 13, 2010 2:07 PM PST reply actions  

Never realized this till now..

…but you’re D.Fish! We should call you point 4

The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.

by Justin N. on Feb 13, 2010 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

but you lack the ability to completely destroy Argentine power forwards with greasy hair

by KBZ on Feb 13, 2010 3:05 PM PST up reply actions  

lol why does everything have to be a snub lol?! the guy just doesnt deserve to be an allstar this year…. he is soo inconsistent.

Also you don’t get into the allstar game based on potential, you get in based on actual contributions you’ve made to your team. AB has the potential to be an all-star, he just doesnt have the numbers to be an all-star

In Kobe we trust!

by robi s on Feb 13, 2010 2:33 PM PST reply actions  

why does everything have to be a snub lol?! the guy just doesnt deserve to be an allstar this year…. he is soo inconsistent.

agreed

"Champions aren't made in the gym. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision."

- Muhammad Ali

"Words of wisdom is nothing but foolishness to the unwise"

by AmarDude on Feb 13, 2010 3:08 PM PST up reply actions  

combination of things

He is only 22 years old, his 5 years in the NBA include 2 years riding the pine and learning the game and 2 injury shortened years.
When Kobe and Gasol are on the floor, Drew is the 3rd option at best.
Having a post up, pivot man is no longer a big part of the NBA game when you have 7 footers shooting 3’s and playing the wing. Even 7’ 6" Yao has a pretty good outside shot.
The mental part of the game is still a problem for Drew. That includes playing with intensity,making mental errors and defending. That could come with maturity or like Kwame, he may never “get it”. That would limit his potential far more than his athleticism.
I believe the “chemistry” between Pau and Bynum is still a problem. The areas they like to operate in overlap with Gasol’s inside game clashing with Bynums mid game. Despite the fact that both have had good numbers in games, I think its obvious that each plays better when the other is out.
This could mean the Lakers will have to decide between the 2 in the future. The Lakers just signed Gasol to an extension and Andrew is Jim Buss’s project. This could make the choice more “political” than tactical.

by keefer on Feb 13, 2010 2:38 PM PST reply actions  

Bynum is my boy

Did he get snubbed? No

Did he deserve to go? Yes

Bynum was playing at an All-Star level aside from the slump he went through.

Amar’e Stoudemire is not a center. If it wasn’t fr the politics then Bynum would have been starting for the Western Conference All-Stars and this wouldn’t even be a conversation

by KBZ on Feb 13, 2010 3:02 PM PST reply actions  

drew

dont think bynum was snubbed…i feel kaman and randolph had better first halfs. Not ready to trade him for bosh..i like boshs’ game, but we have LO and Pau for finesse big men..drew has size and weight, and only gonna get better. shaq ripped on bosh for being soft…dont need 3 big men being run over by shaq in the finals if the 2 teams meet

by paul wall on Feb 13, 2010 3:02 PM PST reply actions  

paul wall

the musician?

"Champions aren't made in the gym. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision."

- Muhammad Ali

"Words of wisdom is nothing but foolishness to the unwise"

by AmarDude on Feb 13, 2010 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

drew should be at the ASG as the starting center

i think drew has had a better year than gasol.

im so glad we have bynum and not bosh. it would be so hard to watch us lose night in and night out while chris bosh scores 12 pts and looks invisible most of the time.

never doubt the heart of a champion something chris bosh will never be

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by Czheck on Feb 13, 2010 3:49 PM PST reply actions  

if you watch Bynum closely sometimes, like when the Lakers have been blown out or when he is on the bench and supposed to be watching the game you can sometimes see in his eyes that the boy isn’t all there, if you smell what i’m cooking.I think this guy has turned out so far to be a big waste of size and talent.When he played against Shaq we might as well of had Pau in there as good as drews size and supposed strength did for him.The guy needs to be sent packing to whatever team will give us the best deal.Let some one else deal with his lackadaisicle mental play

If practice makes perfect....
Yet nobodies perfect.....
Then why practice ???

by peteyweestro on Feb 13, 2010 8:19 PM PST reply actions  

to be fair....

He’s 15/8 on a team with 2 all word talents.

Numbers aren’t everything. Watch the kid play. He’s good, very good.

The problem I see is that we will never know how good he’s going to be until Kobe defers and gets him 15 shots a game, and it’s going to be a couple years until then…or Drew is going to have to step up his game again and demand the ball.

by rshinsec on Feb 14, 2010 3:28 AM PST reply actions  

but he's the third option

I don’t think it’s fair to compare Drews stats to those of Shaq, Kareem, Hakeem or Wilt, these guys were the #1 option in the offense. You can see at times (early in the game) when the Lakers feed Drew the ball he is unstopable, except by the Lakers themselves. I’ve seen games where Drew will take 10 shots in the first half and have 18 points and then only get 3 shoots the rest of the way. Can he be better than 15/8? heck ya! but right now he is the third option, I don’t know that if you put Bosh on this team as a third option he will maintain his numbers without taking shots away from Kobe/Gasol. What this team needs is a point gaurd. Just my opinin. Thanks for lettting me share with you.

by Tiu on Feb 14, 2010 5:44 AM PST reply actions  

athleticism

I really hope he gets his hops back. Maybe that’s why he declined the offer with the national team. I think we’ll see a more mobile Bynum next season.

by lijohn on Feb 14, 2010 5:28 PM PST reply actions  

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