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Can Lamar Odom finally become the perfect 6th man?

Lamar Odom is my favorite current Laker.  I like just about all the players on the team, and (fan) love all the important ones, but LO is the one guy on the team I really identify with.  Like Lamar, I consider myself to be in possession of a highly varied skill set.  Like Lamar, I am willing to do whatever is asked or required of me when working as part of a team.  I stay calm and centered and try to keep things light in important situations.  And, like Lamar, my effort isn't always consistent, but you can bank on my being there when you really need me.  Lamar Odom is basically a basketball representation of my life.

There is no better evidence of the merits of Lamar Odom than what we have seen this season.  He is certainly playing better than he ever has in a Lakers uniform, and he might well be having the best season of his career.  You could make a case that he's been the best, and more shockingly, the most consistent, player on this star-studded team.  In the month of December, it hasn't even been close.  He has clearly been the Lakers best player as the team has struggled through this early-season funk.  His reward for continued success in the face of team adversity?  A spot on the bench for last night's win against the New Orleans Hornets.

To be fair, that is an overly dramatic representation of events.  Lamar has always been headed to the pine at some point this season.  It's always been a question of when, not if.  Still, take a second to think about it.  The guy is playing as well as he ever has, and has remained consistent for longer than I can ever remember him doing, and Phil Jackson still feels comfortable "demoting" him for the good of the team.  How many players would be OK with that?  How many would simply go about their business without any need to have their pride massaged?  How many players would respond by continuing to be just as dominant off the bench, as Lamar was in going for a game high 24 points on 10-15 shooting?   

If his play prior to last night didn't clue you in, let that game be all the proof you need that Lamar Odom is the perfect role player on a championship team.  That, my friends, is what I call ironic, because LO has become the perfect role player by playing a role for which he is hardly perfect.

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Lamar has been one of the best 6th men in the league since the day PJ decided a twin towers pairing of Pau Gasol and Andrew Bynum was preferable to start games off over 2 seasons ago.  How could he not be?  He doesn't just have starter talent, he has All-Star talent.  Aside from Manu Ginobli (who's time coming off the bench was purely a novelty, he was his team's 2nd best player), no sub in the league has or had a talent baseline as high as LO's.  However, he has never been the best 6th man, because, to date, he has only possessed 1/2 of the mentality of a great bench player.  The first half, accepting a role as a non-starter without an injured pride, Lamar has in spades.  The mentality that Lamar lacks, what keeps him from being the best 6th man in the league, is the aggression that should naturally come with being the best player on the court.

When Lamar Odom is playing with his bench mates, against the other team's bench players, he IS the best player on the court.  There isn't a sub in the land that can match him talent for talent.  Despite all that, the Lakers' bench unit as a whole has been below average over the past few seasons, and a major reason is because Lamar often lacks the mentality to demand the ball and attack unrelentingly, even when it is in his team's best interest to do so.  The man can do anything you want him to do, but failing to be consistently aggressive has always been his biggest flaw.  Consider all the other great 6th men in the league, guys like Jason Terry and Jamal Crawford.  All of them have an aggressive mentality and all of them provide a scoring spark.  Lamar can do that, he did it last night, but all too often, he hasn't played with that kind of aggressiveness and the bench, and the team, have suffered for it.

Year Player Usage %
2001 Aaron Mckie 18.9
2002 Corliss Williamson 12.8
2003 Bobby Jackson 23.8
2004 Antawn Jamison 20.7
2005 Ben Gordon 30.4
2006 Mike Miller 21.3
2007 Leandro Barbosa 23.4
2008 Manu Ginobli 28.7
2009 Jason Terry 25.5
2010 Jamal Crawford 25.8

If you look at the past 10 years, the guy who has won 6th Man of the Year has consistently been that aggressive, potent, offensive spark.  Check out the above table, listing each season's award winner and their corresponding usage %.  Usage is a measure of how many of your team's possessions you use (via shot, turnover, or assist) while on the court.  Aside from one huge outlier, in Corliss Williamson, the player who has won the award has always used up a good deal of his team's possessions (while the player is on the court).  In some ways, this is the tail wagging the dog, as a higher usage rate will translate to higher scoring, so it's very hard to win the award as a gap-filler (the role Lamar has tradionally played).  However, it also clearly communicates that a perfect 6th man is a guy who can take the lead as the "star" of the 2nd team, and no matter how many times Lamar might lap the bench field talent-wise, he's always struggled to consistently be that guy.  This is evidenced by the fact that Lamar's usage in his first two years off the bench is lower than anybody's on that list, save Williamson.  He used 18.1% of his team's possesions in 08-09, and only 17% in 09-10.

That's why I'm so hopeful of a breakout bench year for Lamar Odom this season.  As stated previously, I can't remember ever seeing LO be consistenly aggressive for such a long period of time as he has done this season.  His usage is a bit higher than the past two years at 18.4%, and he has put those numbers up as a starter, which means he's been competing for possessions with Kobe Bryant and Pau Gasol as much as with Steve Blake and Shannon Brown.  Consider that the last full year he spent as a starter, partnering first Andrew Bynum and then Pau Gasol in 07-08, his usage was only 16.5%. 

There's a decent chance this is all fool's gold.  Lamar has certainly done it to us before, he's gone on a stretch of domination so strong that we can't imagine a world in which he can be stopped, only to slip away into obscurity again, leaving us as junkies fiending for another fix of Lamar's god mode.  Passing judgment on Lamar's ability to continue his aggression from the bench after one game is certainly a fool's errand.  But I can't fight that hopeful feeling that something within Lamar has finally changed.  Maybe his successful summer run with Team USA made the difference.  Maybe being the emotional leader of a championship team finally released some untapped star power that no one, not even LO himself, knew he had.  Maybe he can finally look around the court, see the nine other bench players out there with him and know, just as we know, that no one out there can stop him.

Maybe, just maybe, the Lakers' perfect role player can finally be the perfect fit for his role.

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I looooooooove L.O. We love him! Nice insightful piece, Chris.

One note, the table is actually above that paragraph, not below.

Check out the table below, listing each season’s award winner and their corresponding usage %

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by SoCalGal on Dec 30, 2010 10:39 AM PST reply actions  

Yeah I fixed it

ran out of time before the autopost, so a couple of errors didn’t get caught until after.

Thanks

by C.A. Clark on Dec 30, 2010 10:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, good stuff.

LO certainly carries himself as a different player this year.

Yes, hope he can sustain it.

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by Koshu on Dec 30, 2010 10:49 AM PST reply actions  

I wonder if constant trying to stay loose while on the bench is a problem for Lamar Odom.

He is an older player after all, though his candy eating habits contribute as well. Trying probably contribute to his inconsistencies.

by E-ROC on Dec 30, 2010 10:57 AM PST reply actions  

I don't think so.

He’s in great shape and always looks fluid on the floor unless he’s injured.

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by SoCalGal on Dec 30, 2010 11:04 AM PST up reply actions  

Starting is different than coming off the bench. When starting, players get a chance to

play immediately after warming up during the pregame. Instead he’ll warm up and sit for 8 minutes or entire first quarter. Odom will come in cold. Tough to do night in, night out as you get older.

by E-ROC on Dec 30, 2010 11:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Meh, he'll be fine.

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by SoCalGal on Dec 30, 2010 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

You hafta look at the positive side og that 2 tho

While he’s on the bench he can basically scout a teams tendencies on offense and soft spots on defense b4 he goes in the game which let’s him know what he needs to do…The bench role suits him cuz he’s put up big numbers against starters so itz only natural to think he’ll be able to do that easier against backups.

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by EmmCeee on Dec 30, 2010 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I love this piece

Its so true. LO has been THE Laker this year to keep the team together. Consistent play, rebounding, finishing at the hoop; Lamar is doing it all.

by Jevon O on Dec 30, 2010 11:06 AM PST reply actions  

"another fix of Lamar's god mode."

I love it when he goes “god mode”—those fluid, swooping, lefty Dr. J.-type finishes off coast-to-coast runs following a one-handed rebound in traffic. That’s the Lamar a la god mode that I love, and that makes the Lakers a championship team.

by Whipp on Dec 30, 2010 11:15 AM PST reply actions  

C.A.?

You forgot to mention the greatest accomplishments of LO’s career…

Winning TWO Silver Screen and Roll Player of the Week awards.

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by wondahbap on Dec 30, 2010 12:05 PM PST reply actions  

Did you send them to him for his trophy room?

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by SoCalGal on Dec 30, 2010 12:13 PM PST up reply actions  

I gave it to Kim to give to Khloe.

I’ll have to ask her tonight if she had the chance to. She’s usually sleeping when I leave in the morning.

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by wondahbap on Dec 30, 2010 12:20 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL, is Chris Humprhies banished to the guest room these days?

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by SoCalGal on Dec 30, 2010 12:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Who?

He’s only for show in public. I have no desire to be a celeb. Real or fake. Her mom set that up. I get the goodies though. We’re just having fun though. Nothing serious…

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by wondahbap on Dec 30, 2010 12:25 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL, you dog.

Tryin’ to make me jealous.

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by SoCalGal on Dec 30, 2010 12:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, baby...

You know I love you. I still belong to you.

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by wondahbap on Dec 30, 2010 12:52 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL, that's what you'd better say, every time.

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by SoCalGal on Dec 30, 2010 1:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Kris*

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by YoungMoney24 on Dec 30, 2010 3:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Oops, that's the way Kim's mom spells her name.

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by SoCalGal on Dec 30, 2010 3:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I wonder if Khloe's love and support is a source of motivation

for him to finally play the way we know he is capable of and for him to live up to his potential….

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by hotmama24 on Dec 30, 2010 12:06 PM PST reply actions  

Between that, the benefits of playing international ball this summer, and a high blood-sugar level to keep him revved up . . .

it’s been a recipe for success.

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by Koshu on Dec 30, 2010 12:19 PM PST up reply actions  

O-11 . . .

“SSR — atten-HUT!”

LOL, thanks for putting up with me falling asleep and the Colonel trying to make you do PT last night.

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by Koshu on Dec 30, 2010 12:41 PM PST up reply actions  

last night was fun/funny.

oh fyi it’s atten-TION not a tin hut or whatever lol.

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by hotmama24 on Dec 30, 2010 3:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Oops . . . Sorry 'bout the Hollywood-style Army talk.

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by Koshu on Dec 31, 2010 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

>.-

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by Koshu on Dec 31, 2010 5:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Ruh roh..

Sad on so many levels. AK RT @jemelehill: Nick Van Exel’s son arrested for murder http://bit.ly/ihB8qM

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by LAL32 on Dec 30, 2010 12:41 PM PST reply actions  

Nick is only 39

his son is old enough to be capable of a crime like that?

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by shaqfor3 on Dec 30, 2010 12:46 PM PST up reply actions  

20 years old.

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by SoCalGal on Dec 30, 2010 1:01 PM PST up reply actions  

39-20 =

damn.

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by shaqfor3 on Dec 30, 2010 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

check out this picture that LOOOeee found:

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by shaqfor3 on Dec 30, 2010 12:49 PM PST reply actions  

Have they no dignity?! Where is their service?!

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by SoCalGal on Dec 30, 2010 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Quality = dignity = Chiameng

It’s eminently logical. They even provide a reverse proof to show that the logic is sound.

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by Koshu on Dec 30, 2010 8:16 PM PST up reply actions  

i dont want bynum to play vs memphis

seriously

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by Czheck on Dec 30, 2010 1:31 PM PST reply actions  

KG is out for a "couple of weeks"

Celtics gonna take a turn for the worse?

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by LAL32 on Dec 30, 2010 2:31 PM PST reply actions  

Lakers win Lakers win!

8 or 9 more in a row and i’ll have a lil more confidence in the team

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by EmmCeee on Dec 30, 2010 2:34 PM PST reply actions  

Sorry, Odom

Will not be the “perfect 6th man” He’s like 30, his game isn’t going to change. He isn’t going to evolve into a “better player” now….Thats like questioning if Fisher is going to play 30min a night…he can barley to 20 now…

Sorry Odom is what Odom is, a 6 foot 10 guard who shows up when he wants to and doesn’t when he doesn’t care. He went off for 26 against a team who has no answer for him. Sorry but i think we all know if he is droping 26 now, the next game he’s give you 10 and probably givng up 15 pts and 9 boards….BEACAUSE HE DOESN"T CARE!

by shadowchicken on Dec 30, 2010 2:40 PM PST reply actions  

Yawn.

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/movealong

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by bluexfalcon on Dec 30, 2010 3:11 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Yawn ur self

I live in LA, i’ve lived in LA my whole life so the only basketball i get to watch is Laker games. But forget the fact that I am a Kings fan, what i said isn’t true? Please tell me what i said about Lamar Odom isn’t true! Please show everyone how stupid you really are…

Everything i said about Odom is true, just because I’m a kings fan doesn’t mean that what i am saying isn’t true.

by shadowchicken on Dec 31, 2010 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Knock it off with the name-calling.

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by SoCalGal on Dec 31, 2010 4:06 PM PST up reply actions  

el oh el

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by LAL32 on Dec 30, 2010 3:14 PM PST up reply actions  

blah blah blah blah

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by smart_guy on Dec 30, 2010 3:14 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I would like to subscribe to your blog. You have many interesting things to say.

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by SoCalGal on Dec 30, 2010 3:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Even then

If he were in Sacramento you would probably retire his Jersey. I mean he already has more rings than the two players you have currently retired jerseys for. Get over it.

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by Jelly Bean on Dec 30, 2010 7:04 PM PST up reply actions  

BEA GONE.

But BEAfore you go, who’s the Kings’ sixth man? Has Westphal even made up his mind??

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by Koshu on Dec 30, 2010 8:28 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL, I noticed that BEAfore.

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by SoCalGal on Dec 30, 2010 9:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I BEALEAVE you.

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by Koshu on Dec 30, 2010 9:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Since when is it okay for Sacramento fan to talk smack about "not showing up?"

Especially on a Lakers blog? They are the epitome of "a team that has no answer." They can "barley" get to 20 wins.

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by wondahbap on Dec 31, 2010 12:38 AM PST up reply actions  

lol

let them count the barley….

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by altree on Dec 31, 2010 12:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Agreed.

No grain of truth in his argument.

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by Koshu on Dec 31, 2010 2:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Gimme a beer.

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by SoCalGal on Dec 31, 2010 7:38 AM PST up reply actions  

A BEA'r? Sure, I's give you.

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by Koshu on Dec 31, 2010 8:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Tanks!

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by SoCalGal on Dec 31, 2010 9:13 AM PST up reply actions  

So because I'm a kings fan

I know nothing about basketball? Fuck that, as a laker fan you should know better than anyone that Odom only shows up when he wants too

by shadowchicken on Dec 31, 2010 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Am i not right about

Odom? WHo cares if i’m a kings fan? Odom only shows up when he wants too, his stats prove it! You as a laker fan should know better than I

by shadowchicken on Dec 31, 2010 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

You're right, we do know better, and more, than you.

Good enough?

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by SoCalGal on Dec 31, 2010 4:08 PM PST up reply actions  

what the fuck?

Not only do u know less about basketball than I do, but i’m sure i know more about it than 3/4 of the people on this site! Again use your head and show me how i’m wrong about Odom….

by shadowchicken on Dec 31, 2010 4:16 PM PST up reply actions  

You've expressed your opinion. It's noted for the record. Nothing really else to talk about.

The article is about how he’s showing signs that he’s playing more to his potential. You don’t think he can. We’re hopeful he can.

Have a nice 2011.

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by Koshu on Dec 31, 2010 7:48 PM PST up reply actions  

I just came back from Hawaii

and i had a fucking blast there. omg i miss it sooo much

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by smart_guy on Dec 30, 2010 3:14 PM PST reply actions  

nice

I went this past summer and I hated leaving. One of the best vacations I’ve ever been on.

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by nyyrocks29 on Dec 30, 2010 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL same

i almost cried on the way back T.T but i missed ssr sooo much which kinda makes up for leaving

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by smart_guy on Dec 30, 2010 3:18 PM PST up reply actions  

one of the worst parts it the time change

I live in NY, so going forward 6 hours is NOT easy. It took like a week to get used to ET again.

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by nyyrocks29 on Dec 30, 2010 3:26 PM PST up reply actions  

In CA the time change is only 2 hrs back, so i didnt feel too much jet lag

wait what island did you go to?

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by smart_guy on Dec 30, 2010 3:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Ah, glad you had a good time.

Sorry we had some rain. But maybe you got to see some nice rainbows as a bonus.

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by Koshu on Dec 30, 2010 8:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Maui

It was great. where’d you go?

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by nyyrocks29 on Dec 31, 2010 8:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Nice article

I love LO and the first guy off the bench is the perfect role for him. I believe that if things go right for him in a season he has a legit chance to be 6th Man of the Year. He’s an All-Star candidate and talent coming off the bench, and plays well with both the starters and the bench unit.

I just hope he keeps it up throughout the year, because if he does the Lakers are going to be that much tougher.

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by nyyrocks29 on Dec 30, 2010 3:16 PM PST reply actions  

I want Luke

to be able to play basketball again, short that Lamar ALL the way.

by Svedish Chef on Dec 30, 2010 4:31 PM PST reply actions  

Even I

cannot support the second half of this statement.

by MoreMinutes4Walton on Dec 31, 2010 7:45 AM PST up reply actions  

lol Joe Smith:
Just finished cruising the streets of LA with no destination lol. Ok I was bored!!!#Yessiirr…

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by shaqfor3 on Dec 30, 2010 5:38 PM PST reply actions  

You were in the passenger seat.

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by bluexfalcon on Dec 30, 2010 5:46 PM PST up reply actions  

lol @ this guy

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by desecrator09 on Dec 30, 2010 5:56 PM PST up reply actions  

PJ always had something up his ass when it comes to Odom.

I was surprised to see LO come in from the bench. LO sure showed philjack though huh? I would have preferred to see artest or even gasol come in from the bench. gasol mostly because I think PJ needs to send pau a message.

As for Clark’s bemusement of what the real catalyst was for LO’s “transformation”, or what caused the change in candyman, might I offer this possibility?

LO loves candy, he’s the candyman. maybe after getting married to kloe, he’s been getting plenty “Good n Plenty”?

"These young guys are playing checkers. I'm out there playing chess."

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by Colonel_Inguss on Dec 30, 2010 7:07 PM PST reply actions  

LO coming off the bench was no surprise. He knew it was gonna happen as soon as Andrew was back to form.

It wasn’t because Phil had something up his ass.

PJ always had something up his ass when it comes to Odom.

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by SoCalGal on Dec 30, 2010 7:57 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree in thinking Pau should be benched till he mans the fuck up.

Issue is, Bynum’s not acclimated enough to the team this year to be the Triangle initiator.

Kobe Bryant used to be a fourth-quarter assassin. Now older, Kobe's impact is completely intangible in the fourth. Why? He's too busy chillin' on the bench after murdering the third.

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KB#24 KNOWS he is the best." - grail

by Saurav A. Das on Dec 30, 2010 9:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree that Pau needs to be sent a message

and he needs to toughen up. But benching him is not the way to do it. That may do more harm than good, and Pau is too important to the success of this team to come off the bench.

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by nyyrocks29 on Dec 31, 2010 8:56 AM PST up reply actions  

kudos to clark for this article. I was just saying last night on yahoo that LO doesn't get enough credit.

thank you for giving the candyman some official props! I want to point out that last year while bynum was out with injuries (shit, or was that the year before that, anywayz), odom did great as starter. he was averaging almost 20 monster rebounds per game and equally on the scoreboard for a good stretch.

I remember though that he had some difficulty readjusting to coming off the bench and his production went way down. someone check me, am I talking about 2009 or 2010 reg season? I must be thinking 2009. my alcohol/gonja fueled memory is kind of fuzzy.

"These young guys are playing checkers. I'm out there playing chess."

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by Colonel_Inguss on Dec 30, 2010 7:32 PM PST reply actions  

LO the X factor

His skill set from the 4 spot is something no other team has. When LO brings it like he did in the 2nd half of game 7, there is no counter in the league.

by SkyHooker on Dec 30, 2010 7:39 PM PST reply actions  

James is out of position at the 4

That would put LO in the low post recording as many fouls on James as the refs are willing to call. That’s a trade-off I am willing make.

by SkyHooker on Dec 31, 2010 3:41 AM PST up reply actions  

He's probably my 2nd favorite Laker behind Kobe

Ron Artest (12/21?10): "All players (get ejected). That happens a lot of times... Rip Hamilton got ejected (recently) in Detroit. Bob Cousy got ejected ... The only person who never got ejected was Jesus... He was 10 for 10s, a lot of 20 for 20s. Perfect from the free-throw line. Infinity rebounding stats."

by Brownnel2000 on Dec 30, 2010 9:34 PM PST reply actions  

will lamar be an all star this year? as of today, i’d have to say yes. however, the game is still month and a half away. by then, maybe lamar’s stats will fade

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by chaucer on Dec 31, 2010 5:13 AM PST reply actions  

LaMar's fit

The 3 Laker bigs will get similar minutes. There are 96 minutes for the two big positions each game. So each gets around 32, less time off for blowouts. Bynum has the size to match up with the other team’s starters, Odom has finesse against the starters and both power and finesse against the other team’s bench. So this is a natural setup, and I’ll agree with Chris’s premise that something has changed this year in LaMar, and buy into the Team USA leadership thing. This year’s Laker bench is a much better fit for LaMar, since it is capable of both ball movement and consistent outside shooting. Last year was Farmar insanity at warp speed only, or Shannon shooting on every touch. I guess we’ll see tonite whether Bynum can stay energized so the bench can have fresh legs inside.

by celticandlakerfanreally on Dec 31, 2010 5:27 PM PST reply actions  

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