Lakers 92, Pacers 95: This Simply Will Not Do
Honestly, I thought we were done with games like this. The lack of energy, the refusal to buckle down and execute the offense, the inability to muster enthusiasm against a B-list opponent, the disappearance of the bench, the reckless hope that Kobe Bryant's greatness would allow an uninspired team to steal a victory where it didn't deserve one: tonight's disaster was lifted directly from the 2009 Laker family album. We sat through plenty of these depressing spectacles last year, but the roaring start to the new season that saw the defending champs flatten all who stood in their way had me convinced that this team was different. That it wasn't as vulnerable to lapses in effort and concentration. It seems I gave them too much credit, too early.
The Indiana Pacers are greatly improved this season. We knew that going in. But they're still several notches below the league's elite, and the Lakers shouldn't be finding themselves, at home, trailing a team like this by double digits. Just because the Heat do it doesn't make it OK.
Yet that's exactly where the Lakers found themselves tonight after digging a 15-point hole in the third quarter. Kobe's one-man heroics, combined with a long-overdue burst of hustle and vitality, whittled the lead down to a single point with 34 seconds to play. Just as in previous losses to Denver and Utah, however, end-game execution was terrible on both ends - a stunning pattern of FAIL on the part of a veteran squad with experience in every kind of pressure situation. Time ran out on the comeback bid that never should've been necessary, and the Pacers took their first-ever win at Staples, 95 to 92.
Indiana earned this W. They competed with hustle and smarts. They defended extremely well and with impressive discipline. The Lakers managed only a point per possession, their worst output of the year, and it felt like every point they scored was an uphill struggle. If you watched the game, how many Laker baskets do you remember that resulted from Pacer defensive breakdowns? For me, the answer is zero. These guys stuck to their assignments, stayed in front of their men, rotated when necessary and challenged seemingly every shot.
People will understandably focus on the last couple possessions of the fourth quarter - and we'll get to those in a second - but really, this game was lost earlier than that. It was lost in the second and third periods, when the Laker offense collapsed into a shambolic mess. Everybody was happy to fire up a quick shot instead of spreading the floor and finding the open man. Passes lacked zip and were easily tipped away. Nobody was scrapping for loose balls or offensive boards. The only reason this wasn't a massive Pacer rout is that midway through the third, Kobe said screw it and went Full Mamba. In the last five minutes of the third he scored 15 points to drag the Lakers back into it. This was one of those occasions when he was fully justified looking for his shot on every trip: the system had broken down, no one else was attacking and some Kobe haymakers were the only hope of avoiding a TKO.
Late in the fourth, a couple of his teammates graced us with their presence. Steve Blake hit a three, Shannon Brown made a driving layup, the Staples crowd troubled itself to make a little noise, and it seemed the Lakers might just escape. Unfortunately, it was then that the Lakers' greatest weakness - their defensive rebounding - flared up again like that infection your sister gave me. On three straight possessions the Pacers collected their own missed shot and scored off a second-chance look. For the game they rebounded 35% of their own misses for 19 second-chance points, and this from a team that ranked 25th in the league in offensive rebounding. The Lakers' work on the defensive glass is just bad bad bad at the moment, and it's starting to cost them some wins.
But back to the end-game. Two Pau Gasol free throws cut the lead to one with 34 seconds to play. On Indiana's next possession, the Pacers ran a high pick-and-roll with T.J. Ford handling the ball and Roy Hibbert as the dive man. Pau stepped out to hedge Ford's dribble, at which point Hibbert slipped toward the basket. Pau was too slow recovering, no one slid over to assist and Hibbert threw down an uncontested dunk to put Indy up three with 16 seconds on the clock. (Over at NBA Playbook, Sebastian Pruiti has a detailed breakdown of this play here.)
On the Lakers' final trip, Kobe had maybe his best look of the night. He dribbled off a pick at the top of the key and was unguarded when he took a three-pointer with 11 seconds remaining. He missed, Ron Artest pulled down the board - it was a really nice rebound by Ron, actually - and Kobe got the ball back with one last look from distance. By that point, however, the Pacer D had recovered nicely and there wasn't a clean three to be had. Kobe's final shot didn't come close, and that was that.
Other than Kobe, nobody on the Lakers played well. Lamar Odom had a nice first half but faded in the second. Derek Fisher took several poor shots and made only 2 of 8. Ron Artest wasn't bad defending Danny Granger, but the Pacer swingman had a much more productive night than he did last year against Ron-Ron. And for the second straight game, the Laker bench failed to have a positive influence.
Most troubling was the play of Gasol. He shot mucho poorly and was badly outplayed by Hibbert. It seems clear at this point that the heavy minutes he's been putting in - 46 tonight, bringing his per game season average over 39 - are taking their toll. He doesn't have the same footwork or energy that we were seeing a few weeks ago. His jumpshot has flattened out. He bears a lot of responsibility for his slump, but he also needs some help inside. Mitch Kupchak and Phil Jackson have to find a solution.
One final note from an otherwise disheartening night: the Lakers continue to shoot their free throws splendidly. They made 17 of 21 in this one and have made at least 75% of their freebies in every game this season and at least 80% in their last seven games. Um... yay?
The gold and purple are now 13-4, a game-and-a-half behind the Spurs and just a half-game ahead of the Mavericks, Jazz and Hornets. They're 5-4 since starting the season 8-0. Up next: a road back-to-back in Memphis and Houston starting Tuesday night.
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93 |
13 |
0.22 |
79 |
0.26 |
52 |
17 |
45 |
49 |
35 |
69 |
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92 |
13 |
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81 |
0.26 |
42 |
30 |
43 |
47 |
31 |
65 |
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"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest
by shaqfor3 on Nov 28, 2010 10:42 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
He's probably busy watching soccer..
sorry blue! these are too easy!!
"Hopefully, they perceive me as a person who did whatever he had to do to win above all else. Above anything. Above stats." – Kobe Bryant
You rang?

Okay, I’m done picking on Andrew…for tonight.
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time for one more cheesy photoshop!

"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest
That was last month, thanks.
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by bluexfalcon on Nov 28, 2010 11:48 PM PST up reply actions
and for the record,
Cheesy photochops are way funnier I think.
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by bluexfalcon on Nov 28, 2010 11:49 PM PST up reply actions
That was last year, thanks.
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by bluexfalcon on Nov 28, 2010 11:48 PM PST up reply actions
Oh how i envy Drew....
Being a 22 year old Millionaire..Playboy Bunnies…Championship rings and a team that desperately needs him….Life is great in the Bynum household lo
When did Phil start playing rookies? With age brings wisdom lol
I wouldn’t mind breaking my knees if like was like that
"I don't mind being the goat. I don't mind being the villain, hated. I've been that my whole career, so it's not like that's anything new. I don't mind people jumping on the bandwagon or jumping off. I just focus on playing the game." -Ron Artest
he might be in Barcelona attending El Clasico vs Real Madrid
"Barnes, Brown & Blake sounds like a law firm or something." -Kobe
I wish I was.
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man that was a humiliating defeat
Lakers losing to a so-so team & an absolute thrashing by the hated arch-rival within 24 hours?! I’m too pissed to talk
"Barnes, Brown & Blake sounds like a law firm or something." -Kobe
Go Barca!!
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LOL
"I'll do whatever it takes to win games, whether it's sitting on a bench waving a towel, handing a cup of water to a teammate, or hitting the game-winning shot."- Kobe Bryant
Well...
at least Walking Dead was good
What is the nature of your thoughts, gentlemen, when you say "fuddle duddle" or something like that?
No spoilers!
I’m about to go watch.
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by DexterFishmore on Nov 28, 2010 10:46 PM PST up reply actions
What'd you think?
What is the nature of your thoughts, gentlemen, when you say "fuddle duddle" or something like that?
I thought it was pretty good
I actually think the weakest part of the show is the male lead, the guy who plays the Sheriff. He doesn’t have a particularly good American accent. Otherwise: great stuff.
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by DexterFishmore on Nov 29, 2010 5:11 PM PST up reply actions
Also
Insert “Lakers were like zombies tonight” joke here.
Please remember: it's not my fault your team sucks.
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by DexterFishmore on Nov 28, 2010 10:46 PM PST up reply actions
Lakers Late Night is on
"Hopefully, they perceive me as a person who did whatever he had to do to win above all else. Above anything. Above stats." – Kobe Bryant
Great recap, Dex. Thanks!
And with that, I’m out. G’nite all!
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rofl that was such a pathetic effort by the Lakers
it was almost funny. Almost.
Faith.... a fan's biggest downfall
It's official now
The Lakers’ season has begun!
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
by Gil Meriken on Nov 28, 2010 11:03 PM PST up reply actions
Probably not
I’m betting it hasn’t.
These guys may not get interested until March, and that’s ONLY if they’re trailing in the home court derby.
They is what they is.
Former LakersForDeuce: "The 2010 champs made me up the ante and change my name!"
by LakersForTrey on Nov 28, 2010 11:23 PM PST up reply actions
so it has begun
And the less penetration Yao has to deal with the better both for his foot and his strength
-a Rockets fan
This aggression will not stand!
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
Why doesn't Phil switch Odom to play C?
After all that’s what he played in Turkey. Gasol’s DNA, with all due respect, isn’t built to play center.
I bleed purple and wear gold.
Err, Odom has even less of whatever "DNA" you need to play center
Seeing as he was originally a converted three, just as Pau is a converted four (and has the luxury of playing the position thanks to Bynum). The only reason Odom found himself at center at Worlds was because every conceivable big that could play the position opted out or got injured beforehand, besides the fact that Chandler played poorly and Coach K bizarrely pulled a Rambis and didn’t give Love significant minutes. That and bigs in the international game are significantly smaller/less athletic than their NBA counterparts, which was why the U.S. team was able to get away with playing Bosh at the five for long stretches during the Olympics. Pau’s infinitely better as a center in the international game as a result, especially with all the zone defenses teams use.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
YOU ARE RIGHT ABOUT GASOL, HE DOES NOT HAVE THE DNA TO PLAY CENTER. HE PLAYS NO DEFENSE AT ALL. WE NEED BYNUM BACK SOON SO HE CAN PROTECT THE BASKET.
It's 12am bro.
No need to yell. Turn off the caps lock.
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by bluexfalcon on Nov 28, 2010 11:51 PM PST up reply actions
I think your caps lock button is broken.
"I don't mind being the goat. I don't mind being the villain, hated. I've been that my whole career, so it's not like that's anything new. I don't mind people jumping on the bandwagon or jumping off. I just focus on playing the game." -Ron Artest
Perhaps buss should coach
"I don't mind being the goat. I don't mind being the villain, hated. I've been that my whole career, so it's not like that's anything new. I don't mind people jumping on the bandwagon or jumping off. I just focus on playing the game." -Ron Artest
At this point, Mitch needs to convince Buss
To eat whatever luxury tax hit they will get for signing an extra body at center to a non-guaranteed contract just to force Pau’s minutes down. It really doesn’t matter whether it’s Jake Voskuhl, Paul Davis, or Wilt’s corpse — there needs to be someone Phil can stick in for 5-7 minutes/night to keep Pau somewhat fresh. There’s absolutely no point in breaking him down so early in the year because Phil doesn’t want to give Caracter more playing time.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
Absolutely
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by LakersForTrey on Nov 28, 2010 11:25 PM PST up reply actions
perhaps Pau can hold on a bit?
we do have scrubs for the next couple of weeks. We haven’t lost against an under .500 team yet and most of them have been blowouts…
Even against scrub teams though
You still want him to take a breather more often than not, especially over the course of a road trip.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
I agree.
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by bluexfalcon on Nov 28, 2010 11:50 PM PST up reply actions
If I were Mitch and if Dr. Buss agrees,
I’ll take Wilt’s corpse.
But seriously, is Courtney Sims still available? He played well during his stay on our summer league team.
Don’t you love the chase? Sometimes it doesn’t work out; those are the stakes. But when it does work out, it’s like having that first cigarette: your head gets all dizzy, your heart pounds, your knees go weak. Remember that?
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Sure, although I'd question that if Phil isn't going to play Caracter
Why is he going to play Sims? I agree that it’s a better long-term move because Sims could develop into an actual rotation player, but I’d wager Phil is more comfortable throwing a veteran retread out there at the moment.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
Isn't this why we got 37YOTR
I thought he’d only be gone for a few games…
"I don't mind being the goat. I don't mind being the villain, hated. I've been that my whole career, so it's not like that's anything new. I don't mind people jumping on the bandwagon or jumping off. I just focus on playing the game." -Ron Artest
Anybody remember this?
"If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose."
"The NBA Apocalypse has occurred, and it's our fault."- C.A. Clark
Lakers in finals: 2-0 with AMMO, 0-1 without.
The Proverbial Switch
Don’t you love the chase? Sometimes it doesn’t work out; those are the stakes. But when it does work out, it’s like having that first cigarette: your head gets all dizzy, your heart pounds, your knees go weak. Remember that?
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Ohh boy
Cannot wait to read more articles about this “switch”
"I don't mind being the goat. I don't mind being the villain, hated. I've been that my whole career, so it's not like that's anything new. I don't mind people jumping on the bandwagon or jumping off. I just focus on playing the game." -Ron Artest
THE LAKERS ARE NOT PLAYING WITH NO SENSE OF PURPOSE.THEY HAVE NO ENERGY, NO SENSE OF URGENCY. TONIGHT’S GAME VERSUS THE PACERS WAS NO DEFENSE AND VERY LAZY PLAY ON BOTH ENDS OF THE COURT. THE TEAM NEEDS TO PLAY WITH MORE ENERGY IF THEY ARE GOING TO REPEAT AS CHAMPIONS.
I DRANK TOO MUCH COFFEE.
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by bluexfalcon on Nov 28, 2010 11:46 PM PST up reply actions
WHY ARE YOU SCREAMING???!?!?
"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest

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by DexterFishmore on Nov 28, 2010 11:56 PM PST up reply actions
The dog on the left looks scared as hell.
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by bluexfalcon on Nov 29, 2010 12:01 AM PST up reply actions
LOL
no comment…
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by desecrator09 on Nov 29, 2010 12:56 PM PST up reply actions
chill dude
you are not lmonroe731
It's Kobe's world, but Lebron's just living in it. -- Czheck
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wth...
im disappointed with how this team played..this is just inexcusable.
Defense wins championships.3peat baby!!!
In other news, anyone see the beatdown Andre Johnson delivered to Curtis Finnegan?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMMJBVXTIHA
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
lol yea I saw it.
Someone give me the backstory on them. Or history of the CB
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by bluexfalcon on Nov 28, 2010 11:59 PM PST up reply actions
yeah
one of them grabbed the other by the facemask last year or something.
"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest
Finnegan has been considered a pretty dirty player and a big trash talker
Whereas Johnson is pretty well-known for being mild-mannered, even though he’s arguably the best wideout in the game. For him to start beating the crap out of Finnegan must have meant that Finnegan was getting in quite a few cheap shots and choice words after plays.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
seymour point blank punched rothelisberger in the face last week
if the NFL was consistent, both players should get fined at worst.
"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest
DAMMIT! and i missed this? life sux!
"What I'm doing right now, I'm chasing perfection."
Kobe Bryant
by Big John Stud on Nov 29, 2010 2:28 PM PST up reply actions
Sarge is that you?
Confused right now…
"I don't mind being the goat. I don't mind being the villain, hated. I've been that my whole career, so it's not like that's anything new. I don't mind people jumping on the bandwagon or jumping off. I just focus on playing the game." -Ron Artest
yes
apparently he cant get into the other account @ work so he created this one
It's Kobe's world, but Lebron's just living in it. -- Czheck
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LOL what he said
"Yes in case you are wondering Big John Stud IS Sarge"
Sarge
"What I'm doing right now, I'm chasing perfection."
Kobe Bryant
by Big John Stud on Nov 30, 2010 9:33 AM PST up reply actions
Err, Cortland* Finnegan
Always thought it was Curtis for some reason.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
He definitely
mushed him in the face before they even started running their routes though. He probably as doing it all game, so I could see Johnson’s frustration
These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game. - Charlie Wilson
The Chorus of Kobe Bryant's career: "You're gonna miss me a little when I'm gone"
that was a kickass fight
these were fucking routine back in the day but Goodell is all pansy and shit and will come down on people for this
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by desecrator09 on Nov 29, 2010 12:57 PM PST up reply actions
Heh.
Lost amongst all this talk of the ‘changed’ Lakers was the fact that the Lakers started off last season red-hot, as well, before majorly dying down. The ball movement and execution is always sharper towards the beginning of the season, before the Lakers realise just how long the season is. With the increased talent/depth available and the fact that the early season games were won with Kobe playing average at best (as opposed to the monster ball he was playing at the beginning of last season), the Lakers will probably win quite a few more games than last year’s manifestation; but these are still the Lakers, and there will be plenty of games like this. Business as usual.
Kobe Bryant's no Michael Jordan. Kobe Bryant is Kobe Bryant.
"Lebron joins teams with his friends; Kobe’s enemies join teams with him." - Gil Meriken
we should stop this 2 game losing skids..
just checked the highlights and pau looked tired or he just ate too much during the holidays.
"When you see the Lakers, Kobe Bryant, all the celebrity wives — we're like rock stars right now, we can't forget our guitar next time" - Ron Artest
Add onto the drama
http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/news/story?id=5862022
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
As long as the Lakers can keep pace with the Celtics
for home court in the Finals, I’ll be satisfied.
Assuming each team gets there.
Magic made me a Laker fan, but Kobe is the best.
Kinda OT, but
I’ve been wondering where you editors get those super-advanced stats like long 2P% and such (it’s not in this article, but I remembered someone – I think it was Dex – wrote about it). Care to share me the link?
Los Angeles Lakers' formula in winning
Candidate of G.L.O.A.T + Another Laker original + Legit bigman from another team = Ring(s)
Substitute them using appropriate variables
Jerry West + Gail Goodrich + Wilt Chamberlain = 1 ring
Magic Johnson + James Worthy + Kareem Abdul-Jabbar = 5 rings
Kobe Bryant + Derek Fisher + Shaquille O'Neal = 3 rings
Kobe Bryant + Derek Fisher + Pau Gasol = 2 rings++
Dex mentioned having
his own stats next to him during games and he also has a Synergy Sports subscription, so maybe thats it.
These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game. - Charlie Wilson
The Chorus of Kobe Bryant's career: "You're gonna miss me a little when I'm gone"
A variety of sources
The shot-location stuff comes from HoopData. Basketball Reference has all of the basic and some of the nonbasic stats. Also, 82games and Basketball Value are good sources.
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by DexterFishmore on Nov 29, 2010 1:56 PM PST up reply actions
Ah, thank you.
Will definitely check them out.
Los Angeles Lakers' formula in winning
Candidate of G.L.O.A.T + Another Laker original + Legit bigman from another team = Ring(s)
Substitute them using appropriate variables
Jerry West + Gail Goodrich + Wilt Chamberlain = 1 ring
Magic Johnson + James Worthy + Kareem Abdul-Jabbar = 5 rings
Kobe Bryant + Derek Fisher + Shaquille O'Neal = 3 rings
Kobe Bryant + Derek Fisher + Pau Gasol = 2 rings++
by Jovi Siagian on Nov 29, 2010 3:17 PM PST up reply actions
Last night was a battle between roy hibbert and brian shaw
we all know about B shaws revenge tho
Czheck Productions
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I've never done anything good for the world, and I'm not about to start now-DF
I somewhat agree with the Kamenetzky Brothers' following point about last nights game
2. Kobe Bryant scored 41 points and carried the team in the second half, but did he dominate the ball too much early, effectively stagnating L.A.’s O against a solid defensive team?
"That means no more coming into camp fat and out of shape, when your team is relying on your leadership on and off the court. It also means no more blaming others for our team's failure, or blaming staff members for not overdramatizing your injuries so that you avoid blame for your lack of conditioning. " Kobe on Shaq being a leader
Enough with this
The O was completely stagnant when he went Full Mamba.
Adding to that
The O was stagnant in UTAH when he went full Mamba and got us the lead.
I am really tired of this comment.
I know that some fans hate these comments about Kobe
but seriously, he started chucking up shots from the time the game started. I know that his second half performance was awesome and it is what kept them in the game.
Dont you think that its possible that it is possible for the offense to be stagnant because he dominates the ball too much?
"That means no more coming into camp fat and out of shape, when your team is relying on your leadership on and off the court. It also means no more blaming others for our team's failure, or blaming staff members for not overdramatizing your injuries so that you avoid blame for your lack of conditioning. " Kobe on Shaq being a leader
Kobe gladly passes the ball within the system.
The problem is when everyone stands around then passes him the ball with 10 seconds and watches. If they would cut, he would pass, and he’s proven it time and time again. He doesn’t mind being the hero, but he doesn’t need to be.
The ball becomes stagnant
when we can’t enter into the post, so when Gasol is being pushed off the block it makes it much harder to work within the flow of the offense. Or do we not remember the fact that most of Gasol’s shots were mid-range shots instead of the low post ones that keep his percentage so high and let us cut much more crisply. After the first quarter, they couldn’t get the ball inside to Pau at all and when we did, he couldn’t finish anything. That is what stalls the triangle is a lack of an effective post presence, which in turn can call for the Lakers to have to utilize different methods of attack. its not like Kobe came down dribbled for 20 secs and then threw a pass, it just always ended up back in his hands when they couldn’t do anything. Not to mention the numerous open shots that rimmed out or just flat out missed by everyone on the perimeter. So ball movement was fine enough to get open shots, we just kept missing.
These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game. - Charlie Wilson
The Chorus of Kobe Bryant's career: "You're gonna miss me a little when I'm gone"
Really... I think Gasol is the problem.
He may be playing too much, but he doesn’t have to be so soft all of the time. He’s nowhere near useful in getting rebounds (in the games we need him to be), and nobody is scared to drive it STRAIGHT AT HIM. Point guards do it repeatedly, because he looks slow. Maybe he needs rest.
agreed
we need Sir Drew BlockAlot!
"What I'm doing right now, I'm chasing perfection."
Kobe Bryant
by Big John Stud on Nov 29, 2010 2:32 PM PST up reply actions
You are right
It is a combination of Pau, Kobe shooting too much in the first half amongst other things. I didn’t mean for my post to make it seem that I was saying it was only Kobe’s fault. He was part of the issue. At some point Kobe yelled at pau for letting Collison just drive it and get a layup and Pau just fuckin stood there.
"That means no more coming into camp fat and out of shape, when your team is relying on your leadership on and off the court. It also means no more blaming others for our team's failure, or blaming staff members for not overdramatizing your injuries so that you avoid blame for your lack of conditioning. " Kobe on Shaq being a leader
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I meant to reply to Jevon O. damn it! : )
"That means no more coming into camp fat and out of shape, when your team is relying on your leadership on and off the court. It also means no more blaming others for our team's failure, or blaming staff members for not overdramatizing your injuries so that you avoid blame for your lack of conditioning. " Kobe on Shaq being a leader
Kobe doesn't shoots too much
He was the best option on most of those shots but i would like to see him take less difficult shots until he gets his full lift back.
And the less penetration Yao has to deal with the better both for his foot and his strength
-a Rockets fan
His lift is what it is at this point
He’ll have it for stretches, but ultimately it gonna be going away quicker than it comes back
These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game. - Charlie Wilson
The Chorus of Kobe Bryant's career: "You're gonna miss me a little when I'm gone"
i know it's gonna go away but
airballs, blown layups that was intangibles like. i don’t think he’s at that point yet
And the less penetration Yao has to deal with the better both for his foot and his strength
-a Rockets fan
honestly its hard to imagine but kobe looked tired last night
especially the last shot he took didnt even hit the rim… i think playing 40 mins when averaging only 33 all season was not smart, but then again Brown was not much help in offense.
He'll be alright
it was probably just having to work so hard for the shots he got versus some o the easier ways he’s been scoring when he doesn’t have to create the shot by himself but through the offense
These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game. - Charlie Wilson
The Chorus of Kobe Bryant's career: "You're gonna miss me a little when I'm gone"
Kobe is old as hell and shoots us out of games 100% of the time
we need a real guard…like Luther Head

"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest
by shaqfor3 on Nov 29, 2010 12:45 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
lmao
rec
These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game. - Charlie Wilson
The Chorus of Kobe Bryant's career: "You're gonna miss me a little when I'm gone"
Once Bynum gets back
Gasol’s minutes will go way down and hopefully he’ll be able to get his strength back. He looked awful last night though.
The whole team looked awful except Kobe. Fish had an off game, Shannon had an off game. Gasol was awful. Odom wasn’t very good. Artest wasn’t very good. And Kobe tried to put the Lakers on his back from minute one. He was awesome in the second half obviously, but it wasn’t enough.
The sooner Drew gets back the better. Go Lakers.
"I'll do whatever it takes to win games, whether it's sitting on a bench waving a towel, handing a cup of water to a teammate, or hitting the game-winning shot."- Kobe Bryant
I dont read a whole lot into this...
No team brings it EVERY night except for maybe the 72-10 Bulls and they probably didnt bring it in some of the 10 games they lost. I’d go so far as to say they probably skated thru more games than just those losses and relied on MJ to bail em out of more than a few games that season. It happens and until they do it on the biggest stage costing them a playoff series it is what it is..
When did Phil start playing rookies? With age brings wisdom lol

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