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Lakers 92, Pacers 95: This Simply Will Not Do

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Honestly, I thought we were done with games like this. The lack of energy, the refusal to buckle down and execute the offense, the inability to muster enthusiasm against a B-list opponent, the disappearance of the bench, the reckless hope that Kobe Bryant's greatness would allow an uninspired team to steal a victory where it didn't deserve one: tonight's disaster was lifted directly from the 2009 Laker family album. We sat through plenty of these depressing spectacles last year, but the roaring start to the new season that saw the defending champs flatten all who stood in their way had me convinced that this team was different. That it wasn't as vulnerable to lapses in effort and concentration. It seems I gave them too much credit, too early.

The Indiana Pacers are greatly improved this season. We knew that going in. But they're still several notches below the league's elite, and the Lakers shouldn't be finding themselves, at home, trailing a team like this by double digits. Just because the Heat do it doesn't make it OK.

Yet that's exactly where the Lakers found themselves tonight after digging a 15-point hole in the third quarter. Kobe's one-man heroics, combined with a long-overdue burst of hustle and vitality, whittled the lead down to a single point with 34 seconds to play. Just as in previous losses to Denver and Utah, however, end-game execution was terrible on both ends - a stunning pattern of FAIL on the part of a veteran squad with experience in every kind of pressure situation. Time ran out on the comeback bid that never should've been necessary, and the Pacers took their first-ever win at Staples, 95 to 92.

Star-divide

Indiana earned this W. They competed with hustle and smarts. They defended extremely well and with impressive discipline. The Lakers managed only a point per possession, their worst output of the year, and it felt like every point they scored was an uphill struggle. If you watched the game, how many Laker baskets do you remember that resulted from Pacer defensive breakdowns? For me, the answer is zero. These guys stuck to their assignments, stayed in front of their men, rotated when necessary and challenged seemingly every shot.

People will understandably focus on the last couple possessions of the fourth quarter - and we'll get to those in a second - but really, this game was lost earlier than that. It was lost in the second and third periods, when the Laker offense collapsed into a shambolic mess. Everybody was happy to fire up a quick shot instead of spreading the floor and finding the open man. Passes lacked zip and were easily tipped away. Nobody was scrapping for loose balls or offensive boards. The only reason this wasn't a massive Pacer rout is that midway through the third, Kobe said screw it and went Full Mamba. In the last five minutes of the third he scored 15 points to drag the Lakers back into it. This was one of those occasions when he was fully justified looking for his shot on every trip: the system had broken down, no one else was attacking and some Kobe haymakers were the only hope of avoiding a TKO.

Late in the fourth, a couple of his teammates graced us with their presence. Steve Blake hit a three, Shannon Brown made a driving layup, the Staples crowd troubled itself to make a little noise, and it seemed the Lakers might just escape. Unfortunately, it was then that the Lakers' greatest weakness - their defensive rebounding - flared up again like that infection your sister gave me. On three straight possessions the Pacers collected their own missed shot and scored off a second-chance look. For the game they rebounded 35% of their own misses for 19 second-chance points, and this from a team that ranked 25th in the league in offensive rebounding. The Lakers' work on the defensive glass is just bad bad bad at the moment, and it's starting to cost them some wins.

But back to the end-game. Two Pau Gasol free throws cut the lead to one with 34 seconds to play. On Indiana's next possession, the Pacers ran a high pick-and-roll with T.J. Ford handling the ball and Roy Hibbert as the dive man. Pau stepped out to hedge Ford's dribble, at which point Hibbert slipped toward the basket. Pau was too slow recovering, no one slid over to assist and Hibbert threw down an uncontested dunk to put Indy up three with 16 seconds on the clock. (Over at NBA Playbook, Sebastian Pruiti has a detailed breakdown of this play here.)

On the Lakers' final trip, Kobe had maybe his best look of the night. He dribbled off a pick at the top of the key and was unguarded when he took a three-pointer with 11 seconds remaining. He missed, Ron Artest pulled down the board - it was a really nice rebound by Ron, actually - and Kobe got the ball back with one last look from distance. By that point, however, the Pacer D had recovered nicely and there wasn't a clean three to be had. Kobe's final shot didn't come close, and that was that.

Other than Kobe, nobody on the Lakers played well. Lamar Odom had a nice first half but faded in the second. Derek Fisher took several poor shots and made only 2 of 8. Ron Artest wasn't bad defending Danny Granger, but the Pacer swingman had a much more productive night than he did last year against Ron-Ron. And for the second straight game, the Laker bench failed to have a positive influence.

Most troubling was the play of Gasol. He shot mucho poorly and was badly outplayed by Hibbert. It seems clear at this point that the heavy minutes he's been putting in - 46 tonight, bringing his per game season average over 39 - are taking their toll. He doesn't have the same footwork or energy that we were seeing a few weeks ago. His jumpshot has flattened out. He bears a lot of responsibility for his slump, but he also needs some help inside. Mitch Kupchak and Phil Jackson have to find a solution.

One final note from an otherwise disheartening night: the Lakers continue to shoot their free throws splendidly. They made 17 of 21 in this one and have made at least 75% of their freebies in every game this season and at least 80% in their last seven games. Um... yay?

The gold and purple are now 13-4, a game-and-a-half behind the Spurs and just a half-game ahead of the Mavericks, Jazz and Hornets. They're 5-4 since starting the season 8-0. Up next: a road back-to-back in Memphis and Houston starting Tuesday night.

 

Poss.

TO%

FTA/
FGA

FT%

3FGA/FGA

2PT%

3PT%

EFG

TS%

OReb Rate

DReb Rate

PPP

Ind.

93

13

0.22

79

0.26

52

17

45

49

35

69

1.02

L.A.

92

13

0.24

81

0.26

42

30

43

47

31

65

1.00

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"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest

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by shaqfor3 on Nov 28, 2010 10:42 PM PST reply actions   2 recs

LOL

Tim Duncan wins championships. Vince Carters fills the arenas.
Kobe Bryant does both.

The ideal way to win a championship is step by step.
-Phil Jackson

by imposibol on Nov 28, 2010 10:45 PM PST up reply actions  

He's probably busy watching soccer..

sorry blue! these are too easy!!

"Hopefully, they perceive me as a person who did whatever he had to do to win above all else. Above anything. Above stats." – Kobe Bryant

by LAL32 on Nov 28, 2010 10:45 PM PST up reply actions  

You rang?

Okay, I’m done picking on Andrew…for tonight.

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by SoCalGal on Nov 28, 2010 10:48 PM PST up reply actions  

time for one more cheesy photoshop!

"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest

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by shaqfor3 on Nov 28, 2010 11:08 PM PST up reply actions  

That was last month, thanks.

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by bluexfalcon on Nov 28, 2010 11:48 PM PST up reply actions  

and for the record,

Cheesy photochops are way funnier I think.

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by bluexfalcon on Nov 28, 2010 11:49 PM PST up reply actions  

That was last year, thanks.

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by bluexfalcon on Nov 28, 2010 11:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh how i envy Drew....

Being a 22 year old Millionaire..Playboy Bunnies…Championship rings and a team that desperately needs him….Life is great in the Bynum household lo

When did Phil start playing rookies? With age brings wisdom lol

by EmmCeee on Nov 29, 2010 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I wouldn’t mind breaking my knees if like was like that

"I don't mind being the goat. I don't mind being the villain, hated. I've been that my whole career, so it's not like that's anything new. I don't mind people jumping on the bandwagon or jumping off. I just focus on playing the game." -Ron Artest

by Hdg23 on Nov 29, 2010 4:55 PM PST up reply actions  

he might be in Barcelona attending El Clasico vs Real Madrid

"Barnes, Brown & Blake sounds like a law firm or something." -Kobe

by ajfarsi on Nov 29, 2010 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I wish I was.

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by bluexfalcon on Nov 29, 2010 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

man that was a humiliating defeat

Lakers losing to a so-so team & an absolute thrashing by the hated arch-rival within 24 hours?! I’m too pissed to talk

"Barnes, Brown & Blake sounds like a law firm or something." -Kobe

by ajfarsi on Nov 29, 2010 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Go Barca!!

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by bluexfalcon on Nov 29, 2010 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

GO AWAY!!

lol

"Barnes, Brown & Blake sounds like a law firm or something." -Kobe

by ajfarsi on Nov 29, 2010 3:28 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL

"I'll do whatever it takes to win games, whether it's sitting on a bench waving a towel, handing a cup of water to a teammate, or hitting the game-winning shot."- Kobe Bryant

by nyyrocks29 on Nov 29, 2010 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Well...

at least Walking Dead was good

What is the nature of your thoughts, gentlemen, when you say "fuddle duddle" or something like that?

by RudeMood19 on Nov 28, 2010 10:45 PM PST reply actions  

No spoilers!

I’m about to go watch.

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by DexterFishmore on Nov 28, 2010 10:46 PM PST up reply actions  

What'd you think?

What is the nature of your thoughts, gentlemen, when you say "fuddle duddle" or something like that?

by RudeMood19 on Nov 29, 2010 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought it was pretty good

I actually think the weakest part of the show is the male lead, the guy who plays the Sheriff. He doesn’t have a particularly good American accent. Otherwise: great stuff.

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by DexterFishmore on Nov 29, 2010 5:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Also

Insert “Lakers were like zombies tonight” joke here.

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by DexterFishmore on Nov 28, 2010 10:46 PM PST up reply actions  

zing!

"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest

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by shaqfor3 on Nov 28, 2010 10:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Lakers Late Night is on

http://espn.go.com/blog/los-angeles/lakers/post/_/id/13079/lakers-late-night-11-28-vs-indiana-1030-pm-pt

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by LAL32 on Nov 28, 2010 10:47 PM PST reply actions  

Great recap, Dex. Thanks!

And with that, I’m out. G’nite all!

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by SoCalGal on Nov 28, 2010 10:49 PM PST reply actions  

rofl that was such a pathetic effort by the Lakers

it was almost funny. Almost.

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by desecrator09 on Nov 28, 2010 10:55 PM PST reply actions  

It's official now

The Lakers’ season has begun!

"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson

by Gil Meriken on Nov 28, 2010 11:03 PM PST up reply actions  

True

I bleed purple and wear gold.

by Brownnel2000 on Nov 28, 2010 11:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Probably not

I’m betting it hasn’t.

These guys may not get interested until March, and that’s ONLY if they’re trailing in the home court derby.

They is what they is.

Former LakersForDeuce: "The 2010 champs made me up the ante and change my name!"

by LakersForTrey on Nov 28, 2010 11:23 PM PST up reply actions  

so it has begun

And the less penetration Yao has to deal with the better both for his foot and his strength
-a Rockets fan

by Madz on Nov 29, 2010 10:41 AM PST up reply actions  

This aggression will not stand!

"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson

by Gil Meriken on Nov 28, 2010 10:59 PM PST reply actions  

Why doesn't Phil switch Odom to play C?

After all that’s what he played in Turkey. Gasol’s DNA, with all due respect, isn’t built to play center.

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by Brownnel2000 on Nov 28, 2010 11:05 PM PST reply actions  

Err, Odom has even less of whatever "DNA" you need to play center

Seeing as he was originally a converted three, just as Pau is a converted four (and has the luxury of playing the position thanks to Bynum). The only reason Odom found himself at center at Worlds was because every conceivable big that could play the position opted out or got injured beforehand, besides the fact that Chandler played poorly and Coach K bizarrely pulled a Rambis and didn’t give Love significant minutes. That and bigs in the international game are significantly smaller/less athletic than their NBA counterparts, which was why the U.S. team was able to get away with playing Bosh at the five for long stretches during the Olympics. Pau’s infinitely better as a center in the international game as a result, especially with all the zone defenses teams use.

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by Ben R on Nov 28, 2010 11:12 PM PST up reply actions  

YOU ARE RIGHT ABOUT GASOL, HE DOES NOT HAVE THE DNA TO PLAY CENTER. HE PLAYS NO DEFENSE AT ALL. WE NEED BYNUM BACK SOON SO HE CAN PROTECT THE BASKET.

by Jjayd on Nov 28, 2010 11:50 PM PST up reply actions  

It's 12am bro.

No need to yell. Turn off the caps lock.

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by bluexfalcon on Nov 28, 2010 11:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I think your caps lock button is broken.

"I don't mind being the goat. I don't mind being the villain, hated. I've been that my whole career, so it's not like that's anything new. I don't mind people jumping on the bandwagon or jumping off. I just focus on playing the game." -Ron Artest

by Hdg23 on Nov 29, 2010 4:57 PM PST up reply actions  

times for players meeting only

Kobe need to bump into Phil :)
ooops my bad Lakers is not 9-8

by Vui on Nov 28, 2010 11:11 PM PST reply actions  

Perhaps buss should coach

"I don't mind being the goat. I don't mind being the villain, hated. I've been that my whole career, so it's not like that's anything new. I don't mind people jumping on the bandwagon or jumping off. I just focus on playing the game." -Ron Artest

by Hdg23 on Nov 29, 2010 4:57 PM PST up reply actions  

At this point, Mitch needs to convince Buss

To eat whatever luxury tax hit they will get for signing an extra body at center to a non-guaranteed contract just to force Pau’s minutes down. It really doesn’t matter whether it’s Jake Voskuhl, Paul Davis, or Wilt’s corpse — there needs to be someone Phil can stick in for 5-7 minutes/night to keep Pau somewhat fresh. There’s absolutely no point in breaking him down so early in the year because Phil doesn’t want to give Caracter more playing time.

To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.

by Ben R on Nov 28, 2010 11:20 PM PST reply actions  

Absolutely

Former LakersForDeuce: "The 2010 champs made me up the ante and change my name!"

by LakersForTrey on Nov 28, 2010 11:25 PM PST up reply actions  

perhaps Pau can hold on a bit?

we do have scrubs for the next couple of weeks. We haven’t lost against an under .500 team yet and most of them have been blowouts…

by volar on Nov 28, 2010 11:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Even against scrub teams though

You still want him to take a breather more often than not, especially over the course of a road trip.

To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.

by Ben R on Nov 28, 2010 11:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree.

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by bluexfalcon on Nov 28, 2010 11:50 PM PST up reply actions  

If I were Mitch and if Dr. Buss agrees,

I’ll take Wilt’s corpse.

But seriously, is Courtney Sims still available? He played well during his stay on our summer league team.

Don’t you love the chase? Sometimes it doesn’t work out; those are the stakes. But when it does work out, it’s like having that first cigarette: your head gets all dizzy, your heart pounds, your knees go weak. Remember that?

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by domz on Nov 29, 2010 12:11 AM PST up reply actions  

Sure, although I'd question that if Phil isn't going to play Caracter

Why is he going to play Sims? I agree that it’s a better long-term move because Sims could develop into an actual rotation player, but I’d wager Phil is more comfortable throwing a veteran retread out there at the moment.

To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.

by Ben R on Nov 29, 2010 12:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Isn't this why we got 37YOTR

I thought he’d only be gone for a few games…

"I don't mind being the goat. I don't mind being the villain, hated. I've been that my whole career, so it's not like that's anything new. I don't mind people jumping on the bandwagon or jumping off. I just focus on playing the game." -Ron Artest

by Hdg23 on Nov 29, 2010 4:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Anybody remember this?

"If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose."

"The NBA Apocalypse has occurred, and it's our fault."- C.A. Clark

Lakers in finals: 2-0 with AMMO, 0-1 without.

by LakerAce on Nov 28, 2010 11:34 PM PST reply actions  

The Proverbial Switch

Don’t you love the chase? Sometimes it doesn’t work out; those are the stakes. But when it does work out, it’s like having that first cigarette: your head gets all dizzy, your heart pounds, your knees go weak. Remember that?

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by domz on Nov 29, 2010 12:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Ohh boy

Cannot wait to read more articles about this “switch”

"I don't mind being the goat. I don't mind being the villain, hated. I've been that my whole career, so it's not like that's anything new. I don't mind people jumping on the bandwagon or jumping off. I just focus on playing the game." -Ron Artest

by Hdg23 on Nov 29, 2010 4:59 PM PST up reply actions  

THE LAKERS ARE NOT PLAYING WITH NO SENSE OF PURPOSE.THEY HAVE NO ENERGY, NO SENSE OF URGENCY. TONIGHT’S GAME VERSUS THE PACERS WAS NO DEFENSE AND VERY LAZY PLAY ON BOTH ENDS OF THE COURT. THE TEAM NEEDS TO PLAY WITH MORE ENERGY IF THEY ARE GOING TO REPEAT AS CHAMPIONS.

by Jjayd on Nov 28, 2010 11:44 PM PST reply actions  

I DRANK TOO MUCH COFFEE.

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by bluexfalcon on Nov 28, 2010 11:46 PM PST up reply actions  

WHY ARE YOU SCREAMING???!?!?

"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest

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by shaqfor3 on Nov 28, 2010 11:56 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL

Defense wins championships.3peat baby!!!

by ms.c on Nov 28, 2010 11:58 PM PST up reply actions  

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by DexterFishmore on Nov 28, 2010 11:56 PM PST up reply actions  

The dog on the left looks scared as hell.

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by bluexfalcon on Nov 29, 2010 12:01 AM PST up reply actions  

To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.

by Ben R on Nov 29, 2010 12:09 AM PST up reply actions  

LOL

no comment…

Faith.... a fan's biggest downfall

by desecrator09 on Nov 29, 2010 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

chill dude

you are not lmonroe731

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by smart_guy on Nov 29, 2010 3:51 PM PST up reply actions  

wth...

im disappointed with how this team played..this is just inexcusable.

Defense wins championships.3peat baby!!!

by ms.c on Nov 28, 2010 11:49 PM PST reply actions  

In other news, anyone see the beatdown Andre Johnson delivered to Curtis Finnegan?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMMJBVXTIHA

To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.

by Ben R on Nov 28, 2010 11:56 PM PST reply actions  

lol yea I saw it.

Someone give me the backstory on them. Or history of the CB

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by bluexfalcon on Nov 28, 2010 11:59 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah

one of them grabbed the other by the facemask last year or something.

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by shaqfor3 on Nov 29, 2010 12:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Finnegan has been considered a pretty dirty player and a big trash talker

Whereas Johnson is pretty well-known for being mild-mannered, even though he’s arguably the best wideout in the game. For him to start beating the crap out of Finnegan must have meant that Finnegan was getting in quite a few cheap shots and choice words after plays.

To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.

by Ben R on Nov 29, 2010 12:06 AM PST up reply actions  

seymour point blank punched rothelisberger in the face last week

if the NFL was consistent, both players should get fined at worst.

"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest

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by shaqfor3 on Nov 28, 2010 11:59 PM PST up reply actions  

DAMMIT! and i missed this? life sux!

"What I'm doing right now, I'm chasing perfection."

Kobe Bryant

by Big John Stud on Nov 29, 2010 2:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Sarge is that you?

Confused right now…

"I don't mind being the goat. I don't mind being the villain, hated. I've been that my whole career, so it's not like that's anything new. I don't mind people jumping on the bandwagon or jumping off. I just focus on playing the game." -Ron Artest

by Hdg23 on Nov 29, 2010 5:09 PM PST up reply actions  

yes

apparently he cant get into the other account @ work so he created this one

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by smart_guy on Nov 29, 2010 5:56 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL what he said

"Yes in case you are wondering Big John Stud IS Sarge"

Sarge

"What I'm doing right now, I'm chasing perfection."

Kobe Bryant

by Big John Stud on Nov 30, 2010 9:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Err, Cortland* Finnegan

Always thought it was Curtis for some reason.

To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.

by Ben R on Nov 29, 2010 12:08 AM PST up reply actions  

He definitely

mushed him in the face before they even started running their routes though. He probably as doing it all game, so I could see Johnson’s frustration

These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game. - Charlie Wilson

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by Marty Mart on Nov 29, 2010 9:59 AM PST up reply actions  

that was a kickass fight

these were fucking routine back in the day but Goodell is all pansy and shit and will come down on people for this

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by desecrator09 on Nov 29, 2010 12:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Heh.

Lost amongst all this talk of the ‘changed’ Lakers was the fact that the Lakers started off last season red-hot, as well, before majorly dying down. The ball movement and execution is always sharper towards the beginning of the season, before the Lakers realise just how long the season is. With the increased talent/depth available and the fact that the early season games were won with Kobe playing average at best (as opposed to the monster ball he was playing at the beginning of last season), the Lakers will probably win quite a few more games than last year’s manifestation; but these are still the Lakers, and there will be plenty of games like this. Business as usual.

Kobe Bryant's no Michael Jordan. Kobe Bryant is Kobe Bryant.

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by Saurav A. Das on Nov 29, 2010 12:18 AM PST reply actions  

we should stop this 2 game losing skids..

just checked the highlights and pau looked tired or he just ate too much during the holidays.

"When you see the Lakers, Kobe Bryant, all the celebrity wives — we're like rock stars right now, we can't forget our guitar next time" - Ron Artest

by crushmybones on Nov 29, 2010 12:34 AM PST reply actions  

Add onto the drama

http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/news/story?id=5862022

To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.

by Ben R on Nov 29, 2010 12:34 AM PST reply actions  

As long as the Lakers can keep pace with the Celtics

for home court in the Finals, I’ll be satisfied.

Assuming each team gets there.

Magic made me a Laker fan, but Kobe is the best.

by thestuff01 on Nov 29, 2010 5:08 AM PST reply actions  

Kinda OT, but

I’ve been wondering where you editors get those super-advanced stats like long 2P% and such (it’s not in this article, but I remembered someone – I think it was Dex – wrote about it). Care to share me the link?

Los Angeles Lakers' formula in winning
Candidate of G.L.O.A.T + Another Laker original + Legit bigman from another team = Ring(s)

Substitute them using appropriate variables
Jerry West + Gail Goodrich + Wilt Chamberlain = 1 ring
Magic Johnson + James Worthy + Kareem Abdul-Jabbar = 5 rings
Kobe Bryant + Derek Fisher + Shaquille O'Neal = 3 rings
Kobe Bryant + Derek Fisher + Pau Gasol = 2 rings++

by Jovi Siagian on Nov 29, 2010 5:24 AM PST reply actions  

Dex mentioned having

his own stats next to him during games and he also has a Synergy Sports subscription, so maybe thats it.

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by Marty Mart on Nov 29, 2010 10:04 AM PST up reply actions  

A variety of sources

The shot-location stuff comes from HoopData. Basketball Reference has all of the basic and some of the nonbasic stats. Also, 82games and Basketball Value are good sources.

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by DexterFishmore on Nov 29, 2010 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Ah, thank you.

Will definitely check them out.

Los Angeles Lakers' formula in winning
Candidate of G.L.O.A.T + Another Laker original + Legit bigman from another team = Ring(s)

Substitute them using appropriate variables
Jerry West + Gail Goodrich + Wilt Chamberlain = 1 ring
Magic Johnson + James Worthy + Kareem Abdul-Jabbar = 5 rings
Kobe Bryant + Derek Fisher + Shaquille O'Neal = 3 rings
Kobe Bryant + Derek Fisher + Pau Gasol = 2 rings++

by Jovi Siagian on Nov 29, 2010 3:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Last night was a battle between roy hibbert and brian shaw

we all know about B shaws revenge tho

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by Czheck on Nov 29, 2010 7:43 AM PST reply actions  

I somewhat agree with the Kamenetzky Brothers' following point about last nights game
2. Kobe Bryant scored 41 points and carried the team in the second half, but did he dominate the ball too much early, effectively stagnating L.A.’s O against a solid defensive team?

"That means no more coming into camp fat and out of shape, when your team is relying on your leadership on and off the court. It also means no more blaming others for our team's failure, or blaming staff members for not overdramatizing your injuries so that you avoid blame for your lack of conditioning. " Kobe on Shaq being a leader

by Jelly Bean on Nov 29, 2010 8:01 AM PST reply actions  

Enough with this

The O was completely stagnant when he went Full Mamba.

by Jevon O on Nov 29, 2010 8:06 AM PST up reply actions  

Adding to that

The O was stagnant in UTAH when he went full Mamba and got us the lead.

I am really tired of this comment.

by Jevon O on Nov 29, 2010 8:07 AM PST up reply actions  

I know that some fans hate these comments about Kobe

but seriously, he started chucking up shots from the time the game started. I know that his second half performance was awesome and it is what kept them in the game.

Dont you think that its possible that it is possible for the offense to be stagnant because he dominates the ball too much?

"That means no more coming into camp fat and out of shape, when your team is relying on your leadership on and off the court. It also means no more blaming others for our team's failure, or blaming staff members for not overdramatizing your injuries so that you avoid blame for your lack of conditioning. " Kobe on Shaq being a leader

by Jelly Bean on Nov 29, 2010 8:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Kobe gladly passes the ball within the system.

The problem is when everyone stands around then passes him the ball with 10 seconds and watches. If they would cut, he would pass, and he’s proven it time and time again. He doesn’t mind being the hero, but he doesn’t need to be.

by rshinsec on Nov 29, 2010 8:30 AM PST up reply actions  

The ball becomes stagnant

when we can’t enter into the post, so when Gasol is being pushed off the block it makes it much harder to work within the flow of the offense. Or do we not remember the fact that most of Gasol’s shots were mid-range shots instead of the low post ones that keep his percentage so high and let us cut much more crisply. After the first quarter, they couldn’t get the ball inside to Pau at all and when we did, he couldn’t finish anything. That is what stalls the triangle is a lack of an effective post presence, which in turn can call for the Lakers to have to utilize different methods of attack. its not like Kobe came down dribbled for 20 secs and then threw a pass, it just always ended up back in his hands when they couldn’t do anything. Not to mention the numerous open shots that rimmed out or just flat out missed by everyone on the perimeter. So ball movement was fine enough to get open shots, we just kept missing.

These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game. - Charlie Wilson

The Chorus of Kobe Bryant's career: "You're gonna miss me a little when I'm gone"

by Marty Mart on Nov 29, 2010 10:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Really... I think Gasol is the problem.

He may be playing too much, but he doesn’t have to be so soft all of the time. He’s nowhere near useful in getting rebounds (in the games we need him to be), and nobody is scared to drive it STRAIGHT AT HIM. Point guards do it repeatedly, because he looks slow. Maybe he needs rest.

by Jevon O on Nov 29, 2010 8:47 AM PST up reply actions  

agreed

we need Sir Drew BlockAlot!

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by Big John Stud on Nov 29, 2010 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

You are right

It is a combination of Pau, Kobe shooting too much in the first half amongst other things. I didn’t mean for my post to make it seem that I was saying it was only Kobe’s fault. He was part of the issue. At some point Kobe yelled at pau for letting Collison just drive it and get a layup and Pau just fuckin stood there.

"That means no more coming into camp fat and out of shape, when your team is relying on your leadership on and off the court. It also means no more blaming others for our team's failure, or blaming staff members for not overdramatizing your injuries so that you avoid blame for your lack of conditioning. " Kobe on Shaq being a leader

by Jelly Bean on Nov 29, 2010 8:54 AM PST reply actions  

reply fail

I meant to reply to Jevon O. damn it! : )

"That means no more coming into camp fat and out of shape, when your team is relying on your leadership on and off the court. It also means no more blaming others for our team's failure, or blaming staff members for not overdramatizing your injuries so that you avoid blame for your lack of conditioning. " Kobe on Shaq being a leader

by Jelly Bean on Nov 29, 2010 8:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Kobe doesn't shoots too much

He was the best option on most of those shots but i would like to see him take less difficult shots until he gets his full lift back.

And the less penetration Yao has to deal with the better both for his foot and his strength
-a Rockets fan

by Madz on Nov 29, 2010 10:58 AM PST up reply actions  

His lift is what it is at this point

He’ll have it for stretches, but ultimately it gonna be going away quicker than it comes back

These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game. - Charlie Wilson

The Chorus of Kobe Bryant's career: "You're gonna miss me a little when I'm gone"

by Marty Mart on Nov 29, 2010 11:02 AM PST up reply actions  

i know it's gonna go away but

airballs, blown layups that was intangibles like. i don’t think he’s at that point yet

And the less penetration Yao has to deal with the better both for his foot and his strength
-a Rockets fan

by Madz on Nov 29, 2010 11:08 AM PST up reply actions  

honestly its hard to imagine but kobe looked tired last night

especially the last shot he took didnt even hit the rim… i think playing 40 mins when averaging only 33 all season was not smart, but then again Brown was not much help in offense.

by rballer on Nov 29, 2010 10:57 AM PST reply actions  

He'll be alright

it was probably just having to work so hard for the shots he got versus some o the easier ways he’s been scoring when he doesn’t have to create the shot by himself but through the offense

These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game. - Charlie Wilson

The Chorus of Kobe Bryant's career: "You're gonna miss me a little when I'm gone"

by Marty Mart on Nov 29, 2010 11:02 AM PST up reply actions  

Kobe is old as hell and shoots us out of games 100% of the time

we need a real guard…like Luther Head

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by shaqfor3 on Nov 29, 2010 12:45 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

lmao

rec

These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game. - Charlie Wilson

The Chorus of Kobe Bryant's career: "You're gonna miss me a little when I'm gone"

by Marty Mart on Nov 29, 2010 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Once Bynum gets back

Gasol’s minutes will go way down and hopefully he’ll be able to get his strength back. He looked awful last night though.

The whole team looked awful except Kobe. Fish had an off game, Shannon had an off game. Gasol was awful. Odom wasn’t very good. Artest wasn’t very good. And Kobe tried to put the Lakers on his back from minute one. He was awesome in the second half obviously, but it wasn’t enough.

The sooner Drew gets back the better. Go Lakers.

"I'll do whatever it takes to win games, whether it's sitting on a bench waving a towel, handing a cup of water to a teammate, or hitting the game-winning shot."- Kobe Bryant

by nyyrocks29 on Nov 29, 2010 1:52 PM PST reply actions  

I dont read a whole lot into this...

No team brings it EVERY night except for maybe the 72-10 Bulls and they probably didnt bring it in some of the 10 games they lost. I’d go so far as to say they probably skated thru more games than just those losses and relied on MJ to bail em out of more than a few games that season. It happens and until they do it on the biggest stage costing them a playoff series it is what it is..

When did Phil start playing rookies? With age brings wisdom lol

by EmmCeee on Nov 29, 2010 3:02 PM PST reply actions  

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