Kirk Hinrich Is Hurting My Brain

but I would rather wait on Harris than go and get Hinrich. Hinrich isnt the answer in my eyes. Yes, he plays good defense, but has been terrible behind the arch this season and is in his 30’s. We are fine with the current roster we have. I just think Phil should cut Fisher’s minutes down to 18-20, and let shannon and jordan get the rest of ’em.

I think we could get a much better piece to the bench with the expiring contract of Adam Morrison. I keep saying, what about Salmons from Chicago? He could play the 2 or 3 and give Kobe and Ron-Ron some much needed rest. I would def make our bench alot deeper.

he is 29. he will be 30 next year.

Fisher is, I do believe, the worst starting PG in the NBA — but nary a peep.

I want to hear more about that fellow behind him in that photo over there.

As long as Phil is the coach on this team and they run his system Fish will be the best PG for the Lakers. As fans, we tend to fall in love with highlights like Shannon dunking or Farmar’s speed. To the eye that is "sexier" but not the best solution. Yes, the team might be better stats wise but not leadership wise. Can anyone tell me of a player on the Lakers who has what it takes to put Scola on the floor. Farmar? Please! He is so caught up with "getting his own" that it’s not even funny. If the Lakers were in a fight for a ring I would take Fisher on my team any day of the year over Farmar, Devin Harris, Brown. Pound for pound he has the most heart, veteran leadership than any player on the Lakers not name Kobe.

Farmar at times makes bad descisions and overall, plays no Defense(maybe a steal or 2). I would trade him for Heinrich, its all about the D. The O is in Kobe, Bynum, and Pau, and quite a few times in Artest. Theres not many touches to go round, so all we need is a Defensive PG.

he’d be needed to guide harris (if we need him)

He’s hustling hard, playing with confidence, and his three ball is looking a lot better.

Just going on past mid season guard trades the guy really never gets to play, Phils excuses is always Triangle. Really do the lakers really need Hinrich I mean are we losing games, we have one of the best records. It’s just fans wanting the prefect team and the last time the lakers had that we lost to the Pistons.

we trade sasha vujacic for minnesota’s ramon sessions. this trade actually works well both ways. their salaries are almost even, lakers get a more reliably guard in ramon, kurt rambis gets a player who already knows the triangle. sasha would become a key player, something he probably won’t get here in la.

Fisher’s continuing playing time is yes, due to more or less, getting out of the way and not doing stupid things (relatively, as his botched fast breaks and PUJITs indicate), but I would argue, more a reflection on Farmar and Brown, both of whom Phil doesn’t trust fully to subsume their games and play within the offense.

Putting Hinrich in that dynamic (and first, Farmar will be traded in any prospective deal, or at the very least, he’ll be dumped for a pick afterwards) is different, namely because Hinrich largely doesn’t play outside his means, and his game is a much better fit for the triangle than either Farmar or Brown, and after a month or so learning the offense, I’d fully expect Phil to get the overall picture and give Hinrich 30+ minutes.

isn’t it possible that if we get heinrich we can trade farmar and bynum for bosh? or something crazy like that… could be a trade with a nod to the future…

I mean, since their names sound the same, maybe they would do it?

He is one of the best “floppers” in the league. That has benefited this team many times. I don’ t think Farmar is the answer and Brown is better at the 2.

Id rather go get him with Morrison’s expiring contract. He can help out our depth bench and help get Kobe & Ron some rest. I really dont like the gamble with Hinrich, especially for the amount of money he is due. Plus, he is almost 30 years old.

I mean you cant be perfect at every position. (well, not until we get Harris next year – crossing my fingers). Our team is pretty stacked at every other position. yes, we struggle at pg on defense, but you just need help defense from the other 4 guys on the floor. Im sure the front office knows about our pg problems, and Im sure they are working on something to happen in the near future.

Well, what do you think – Salmons for Morrison

sometimes i feel that criticism about fisher is exagerrated. i think it is the malacusstomed, or better yet, spoiled side of our fanhood speaking. we are used to greatness, we demand it all the time. fisher is a general and he deserves respect. that said, i agree with dex. i think the lakers should look to their bench (regardless of fisher’s accomplishments) for an upgrade before looking elsewhere.

Experiment a few games with Farmar getting 30 mins a game with Fish starting/playing crunch time as necessary. See how Farmar responds. I think Farmar will play better if given the increased responsibility: he might adopt a “I need to manage this game” mentality as opposed to a “I need to come off the bench and make things happen” mentality.

this: which PG combination gives our team the best chance of competing for a championship, Fisher/Farmar or Fisher/Hinrich? Given those two options, I’d take the latter, and I think this is probably the best way to maximize Morrison’s expiring deal (that we’ve heard about, anyway).

The money is basically a wash when considering Hinrich-for-Morrison/Vujacic actually constitutes a salary reduction this season, and, next year, Hinrich + Fisher at the Vet’s Minimum < Vujacic + a resigned Farmar + Fisher at the Vet’s Minimum. The front office wouldn’t really see much salary variance over the status quo until the last year of Hinrich’s current deal.