Hinrich for Adam Morrison and Sasha Vujacic
"A source confirmed the Bulls have had discussions with the Lakers about Hinrich, most likely for Adam Morrison and Sasha Vujacic, but nothing is imminent."
http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=354128
Ah, hello, who on this side of the planet believes this was offered without the Lakers having already made the trade?
And who thinks he could go that cheap, and without getting the Gasol backlash (Even though I hated trading Marc)?
Who else do you want that we could get for filler like this?
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if buss is willing to pay another 16 to 17 million for hinrich per year
then go ahead and get him..
but yes
i have backed off my derek fish love…
he is slow as FUCK and cannot stay in front of ANYONE…. tho he seems to hit dagger 3s all the time and do timely things like charging fouls and run through screen and get moving screen calls… hinrich is a bad player this season
How many 1v3s has D.Fish saved for the Lakers?
It blows my mind when he comes up with those kind of defensive stops.
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
Fisher getting burned off the dribble or off a screen
Happens a lot more than the dramatic charges he draws on fast breaks.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
Yea but has it really ever lost a game for the Lakers as much as him making shots to win.
I do believe that maybe he should lose some time but it is up to Brown and Farmar to fill.
by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 27, 2010 10:24 AM PST up reply actions
Uh, are you serious?
It’s not a matter of “losing games,” as we have the talent level to win despite Fisher’s shortcomings. It’s a matter of plugging what is currently a massive defensive liability, and while Farmar and Brown aren’t ideal solutions at the moment, they’re certainly better than anything Fisher is offering.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
"Kurt" Hinrich is a solid defensive player,
who does the fundamentals properly.
We miss you, Ben Gordon!
by Granny Waiters on Feb 1, 2010 1:43 PM PST up reply actions
any way we can get tyrus thomas too?
i dont want kirk if i cant get thomas
YOU CAN PUT IT ON THE BOARD YES!
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Let's not get greedy here
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
I think
I’d rather try to get Joakim Noah, as much as I don’t like him as a person, than Thomas cuz Noah is more of a hustle player like what we need.
That's even more unrealistic
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
I can't stand that guy...I'd rather get
Taj Gibson….and that’s coming from a UCLA fan.
Well, you are both in luck...
Since the Bulls would NEVER trade Noah or Tyrus for a bunch of awful spare parts.
How can we have the worst offense in the league when everything about our team owner and coach is offensive?
by Khalid El-Amin on Jan 31, 2010 7:39 PM PST up reply actions
If the Lakers want Noah, they would have to give up either Bynum or Pau. Not happening.
We miss you, Ben Gordon!
by Granny Waiters on Feb 1, 2010 1:44 PM PST up reply actions
Thomas isn't that great or he would play all the time is very limited in what he can do, why do you think Taj starts.
by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 27, 2010 10:28 AM PST up reply actions
That's completely off
Gibson starts because VDN is an idiot, and doesn’t like Thomas. Any observer of the team would tell you that Thomas is miles better than Gibson.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
by Ben R on Jan 27, 2010 1:43 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
ohhhh.... burn
"A true laker fan is the only one in the room who believes there is still a chance, even though there is only .4 seconds left on the clock." - CG
Well do you know that for a fact about Vinny not liking TT and do youuuuuu really feel that TT has better Basketball skills than TG.
by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 27, 2010 1:51 PM PST up reply actions
Taj is a better player...
more speed and agility with better moves on Offense. TT has jumping ability…that’s it.
Thanks King as we both saw Taj play in the Pac-10 for 3 years we know how good this guy is.
by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 27, 2010 2:29 PM PST up reply actions
World of difference between the NBA and the Pac-10
Thomas’ athleticism alone puts him on a different tier than Gibson, and he’s far more of a factor on both ends. Gibson is a serviceable role player who will stay in the league for a long time because he plays smart, but that only takes you so far.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
by Ben R on Jan 27, 2010 4:12 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Well thats cool but i see it a little different and we all have those opinions, and you can go with your and I will go with mine.
But if I am a coach I will stay with the Smart Player
by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 27, 2010 7:00 PM PST up reply actions
Actually, if you were a coach
On a team that’s not going anywhere, you should play the players with far higher upside, but whatever.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
I have coach players for 30 years
And that team is just starting to find it’s way
by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 28, 2010 2:40 AM PST up reply actions
Not really
They’re winning because they’re hitting the masses of inefficient long twos that they normally miss, or rather, Rose is single-handedly moving their offense from “putrid” to “below average,” which is enough to win games in the East. Their future is getting waxed in the first round of the playoffs and praying they get a significant free agent in the 2010 sweepstakes. A good portion of the team won’t be around after this summer, and the coach will be fired the day after the buzzer for the final game sounds.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
by Ben R on Jan 28, 2010 2:46 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
OK god and why your at it tell us the fait of the worlds economy,
by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 28, 2010 2:57 AM PST up reply actions
Recovers fairly decently
Considering Obama probably won’t do anything overly stupid to freak out the financial markets. China will continue to grow modestly and probably pass Japan in the next year or so. Anything else?
But seriously, plenty of my predictions are pretty obvious. They’re not beating Cleveland, Boston, Orlando, or Atlanta in a seven game series; their whole game plan is to open up space for 2010, so some combination of Hinrich, Deng, or Salmons is almost certainly going to be traded, Thomas’ rights will be renounced, and a few other contracts will come off the books; and VDN will definitely be gone to get a real coach to attract free agents with.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
Well your trade will never happen and Fisher will continue to play weather starting or coming off bench.
I really don’t care where the bulls end up and TAJ is better than TT.
by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 28, 2010 3:06 AM PST up reply actions
What, this trade?
Won’t necessarily happen, yes, but Hinrich, Deng, or Salmons is almost certainly moving because Chicago has made it very clear that their goal is to partake in the 2010 market. Whether it’s to here or elsewhere is largely irrelevant — they will move them for salary relief.
As to Fisher continuing to play, well, duh. Doesn’t take a serious observer of the team to tell you that Phil is committed to playing him.
And as for your Gibson versus Thomas conundrum, I’ll leave you to your opinion, as you seem to be immune to opposing arguments.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
So when are you buying the lakers Benny
by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 28, 2010 3:16 AM PST up reply actions
Hmm
Well, probably after I graduate from Princeton, make millions in the private sector, get a bunch of my rich buddies together to form a management group, and due to the fratricidal conflict in the organization between Jeanie and Jim, we’ll buy the team. Let’s say about 35-40 years from now.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
Well one thing you have is high expectations, but I think there will not be an NBA in 25 years.
by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 28, 2010 3:40 AM PST up reply actions
I’m from the Bulls Blog and I wanted to just throw in a few points:
- Noah and Rose are basically our only untouchables.
- Tyrus appears to be clearly better than Taj. Even as early as preseason VDN was messing around with Taj starting ahead of Tyrus, even though Tyrus was worlds better than Taj then.
- Taj got a lot of playing time when TT was hurt, he’s looking decent, but on any winning team he’s still a 7-8th man in the rotation. He has potential though and seems to know how to play the game.
- There is no consensus on what the Bulls want to do with TT. The major theory has always been that they are just going to give up on him since the coach does not like him and he’s never given much of a chance in crunch time, despite having some very good games. So if they are giving up on him, I’d imagine he could be had for a fairly weak group of players (maybe even expirings).
- Salmons and Hinrich are basically who we want to trade currently. There aren’t many reports about it, but if somebody made a decent offer for Deng’s long and expensive contract, I think the Bulls would be crazy to not consider it.
Anyways, it’s nice to see the thoughts from a championship caliber team. Liked your offseason Artest for Ariza FA decision, always loving Bynum more and more. Good luck in the finals.
Well lets put some money on that young one
by so.cal.native1952 on Jan 28, 2010 3:04 AM PST up reply actions
That they'll be annihilated in the first round?
I’d wager my odds are pretty damn good.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
Ben R posts a fair summation of the Bulls.
We miss you, Ben Gordon!
by Granny Waiters on Feb 1, 2010 1:47 PM PST up reply actions
You have completely changed my perception of a Laker's fan.
Recced x 1000. Everything you’ve said in this post is spot on.
Jerry Reinsdorf takes irrational hates to some players,
which is why Ben Gordon was allowed to walk for nothing, and why Tyrus Thomas will likely do the same.
We miss you, Ben Gordon!
by Granny Waiters on Feb 1, 2010 1:45 PM PST up reply actions
Hey, I proposed that trade!
We miss you, Ben Gordon!
by Granny Waiters on Feb 1, 2010 1:43 PM PST up reply actions
Talent wise in terms of the quality of talent that the Lakers would be receiving this would be a no brainer
But, it doesn’t make sense number one because the Lakers would be left with a three PG rotation again which to me I think that if the Lakers are trying to improve the PG position that means that they must be trying to trade Farmar as well.
"If you want to find the dumbest guy in the room just find the first guy to tell you how smart he is." - JG
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Jan 26, 2010 11:21 PM PST reply actions
I was thinking the same thing
re: 3 guard rotation (plus shannon, goodness!) when I saw who the laker trade baits were. How come Farmer wasn’t in it? Does it mean Farmar will be offered to another team?
this is exactly why,
i think we should through farmar into that trade and try and get salmons.
farmar, sasha & morrison for hinrich & salmons. we will prob have to throw in a late round draft pick or cash considerattions since the money doesnt quite add up. hinrich’s contrace decreases over time and if you can re-sign Fisher for much less than hes making now, it will work out. buss wil have to spend a little extra money, but he hasnt seemed to have a problem with that, as long as we are winning.
we wont have the 3 pg problem (plus shannon) and will have a decent scoring/3 pointer threat off the bench that can play the 2 or 3, giving kobe or ron some much needed rest. hinirch will solve our defensive problems with our pg. i really like this possibility, but it always seems to be rumors. you never hear about the trades the actually happen.
"A true laker fan is the only one in the room who believes there is still a chance, even though there is only .4 seconds left on the clock." - CG
***throw
"A true laker fan is the only one in the room who believes there is still a chance, even though there is only .4 seconds left on the clock." - CG
DO NOT propose trades with the Bulls that put them in the luxury tax this season,
as it will never happens unless it means an All-NBA 1st teamer coming to the Bulls.
We miss you, Ben Gordon!
by Granny Waiters on Feb 1, 2010 1:50 PM PST up reply actions
Well Fisher and Farmar basically come off the books at the end of the year, and I’d imagine somebody will give Brown a better deal than his ~2m player option, so it’s only a temporary log jam.
Plus Hinrich has been playing a lot of 2 guard, which is a lot more natural for him if he is surrounded by scorers, which you guys have plenty of.
A Brown/Hinrich back court when Kobe is resting would likely work well, as would a Hinrich/Kobe back court. You’d have some more matchup options, as Hinrich can be a good 1 on 1 defender. He also guards bigger players quite often. I believe we had him on Lebron and Pierce at times, though Deng on Lebron was probably the regular matchup.
Well, if they'll takejust Morrison and Vujacic
Then it’s a no-brainer for obvious reasons. The increase in payroll would be pretty marginal with Vujacic’s contract gone.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
take just*
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
Difference in Salaries: Back of the Envelope Calcs
This year it would be about a wash. Next year it’s about a $7 million hit (after league luxury tax but before the corporate income tax deduction). In 2011-12 the team would add a $16 million liability (same tax effects) where there isn’t any now (because Sasha’s contract expires one year before Hinrich’s).
by DexterFishmore on Jan 27, 2010 12:31 AM PST up reply actions
Depends a lot on the roster moves in that period
If we trade say Farmar, Vujacic, and Morrison for Hinrich and Johnson, re-up Fisher for the minimum, use our second-round picks to find cheap replacements for Powell and Mbenga (or re-sign them; the salary difference is fairly negligible), and Kobe signs an extension for the max, then our payroll comes to about ~$84-86 million before luxury taxes, which is a drop from this year. That said, we’ll probably get a slight decrease of the cap, so we’ll get a slightly harsher luxury tax bill, which will drive the bill up somewhat. Given how many free agents on the market, Kupchak will probably get someone for part of the MLE, so add $3-4 million onto the payroll also.
So yeah, in the end, it will be more expensive for the Lakers with a lot of variance depending on the front office, although not as much as one would think. I would also argue that we have to get a PG replacement at some point, and if we’re stuck with the status quo, we either have to 1) burn the MLE on a replacement 2) keep Farmar with the QO and either re-up him for $3-4 million or match whatever offer another team makes (which will probably be in the same ballpark 3) bribe Stern to force whoever wins the lottery to trade us the #1 pick so we get Wall. Hinrich is a safer option over that drama, and it solidifies the starting five, so Kupchak can penny pinch for backups.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
Oh, and to what the actual trade would probably look like
I’d imagine it be something like Farmar, Vujacic, and Morrison for Hinrich and Johnson. That makes it slightly more equitable and would solve the resulting glut at the guard positions.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
Off topic, but oddly relevant to this
http://lakernoise.com/2010/01/mj-to-the-lakers/
Obviously, this will never, never, ever happen, but my mind just about blew into a billion pieces thinking about it.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
Aheheh
At age 46? Can’t imagine his lungs look too pretty after all those cigars. I’d still wager he’s better than Morrison. Maybe as useful as Josh Powell. Definitely sub-Vujacic.
Might be worth it, though, just for sheer blogability/entertainment value.
by DexterFishmore on Jan 27, 2010 2:50 AM PST up reply actions
Sub-Vujacic?
MJ could probably put up a ~15 PER until he’s 50. I remember reading several articles about Jordan regularly outplaying most of the Bobcats when he bothered to show up for their practices.
And yeah, I would do it just for the absolutely epic entertainment factor. Every sports website would implode simultaneously.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
I called this.
In another post. I said the Lakers should trade for Hinrich. If this happens, I’m sending a resume to the NBA.
But I think this would be a great trade for the Lakers. Hinrich is a smart player and a kind of guard who can play the triangle. Plus he’s a hard worker on the defensive side of the floor. Although, it would be hard to rotate Farmar and Brown with Hinrich. Don’t know how Phil would do that.
Well let me welcome everybody to the wild wild west. A state that's untouchable like Elliot Ness.
by pharoah on Jan 27, 2010 5:45 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
The Bulls would likely ask for Farmar in any trade for "Kurt" Hinrich,
since Devin Brown plays 10-15 minutes at the 1 otherwise.
We miss you, Ben Gordon!
by Granny Waiters on Feb 1, 2010 1:53 PM PST up reply actions
what about this possibility.
lakers recieve hinrich and salmons
bulls recieve farmar, morrison, vujacic & a late round pick (or roughly 500k in cash considerations)
it would help at the pg position, with one that can actually play defense. and it would give us a decent backup for kobe & a streaky 3 point shooter. he is a much better option than sasha IMO. all you would need to do is sign a veteran or d-league player or two for the league minimum.
"A true laker fan is the only one in the room who believes there is still a chance, even though there is only .4 seconds left on the clock." - CG
No on Salmons
he has to have the ball in his hands to be an effective player and that’s not going to happen in L.A. — even off the bench he’d be playing with Odom, who would have the ball 50% of possessions with the bench group on the floor.
I’d definitely do the trade the OP mentioned, but I don’t think it’s a no-brainer from a financial situation. You’re looking at a $16M hit next season for an $7M player due to luxury tax concerns.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?

"If you want to find the dumbest guy in the room just find the first guy to tell you how smart he is." - JG
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Jan 27, 2010 7:45 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Wow, that's a pretty good Photoshop job
(Coming from a guy who is a photography editor for his school newspaper)
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
PLEASE MAKE IT HAPPEN!
We miss you, Ben Gordon!
by Granny Waiters on Feb 1, 2010 1:54 PM PST up reply actions
PAGFL are you a TLN writer?
"That's a giant sig " - Ben R.
by Saurav A. Das on Feb 5, 2010 5:26 PM PST up reply actions
the latest rumor has...
hinrich and thomas going to the rockets for t-mac.
or
hamilton and prince going to the rockets for t-mac.
"A true laker fan is the only one in the room who believes there is still a chance, even though there is only .4 seconds left on the clock." - CG
I do this trade in heartbeat.......
However, I would like for the trade to be expanded to include James Johnson. Please. Can I be greedy? Just this one time. I won’t ever ask again, until a particular opportunity arises. :)
Anyway, the Bulls will want Farmar in the trade and Lakers will undoubted want to unload Vujacic. So the Bulls have to add another player to the trade. James Johnson FTW!
That wouldn't be greedy at all
He isn’t playing much for the Bulls and doesn’t seem to be anything but roster filler.
If we aren't careful, the leanness we now feel will be the starvation of those we serve.
by Chi 'Till I Die on Feb 1, 2010 10:21 AM PST up reply actions
Do it Mitch.
"F it, let's pitch." - Ervin Santana
by Chzburger Jones on Jan 27, 2010 9:46 PM PST reply actions
As an extremly avid Bulls fan...
I’m surprised that your stat geeks aren’t drooling at the thought of having Hinrich guarding every point guard they face. According to 82games.com, when point guard face the Lakers, they average a 17 PER (http://www.82games.com/0910/0910LAL5.HTM). It’s the only position that you guys have a negative +/- PER differential per game.
On the other hand, when Hinrich is playing the point, he averages a 15.1 PER and point guards against average 7.9 PER. (http://www.82games.com/0910/09CHI4.HTM).
A trade of Kirk Hinrich for Adam Morrison, Jordan Farmar & Josh Powell should be a no-brainer. On top of that, he’s normally an excellent outside shooters but he’s had a down year.
wow opponents have a 7.9 per against him??
WOW that is VERY impressive …
by matthewmafa on Jan 27, 2010 10:51 PM PST up reply actions
Heh, I suppose I'm somewhat of a stat geek
But the Hinrich scenarios have been rehashed a lot in the past few months, so subsequent threads become slightly boring unless there are new developments. Yes, the PER against stats for Hinrich are terrific, but he’s still quite the expensive upgrade, which is really the only barrier stopping this from happening.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
hmm
Has Heinrich ever been a starting point guard? It’s one thing to hold the Rafer Alston’s and Jannero Pargo’s of the league down a little bit, but CP3 and D.Will? I think those 82games numbers are a little misleading…
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
Not really
The sample size is more than large enough, and it’s far superior to anything the Lakers’ point guards offer. And yes, Hinrich has started basically since he was drafted, and would be starting now if Rose wasn’t on the team. Even then, Hinrich’s defense is far better than Rose’s, and he regularly guards the opponent’s best perimeter threat nightly.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
Hinrich was a starting point guard
for his first 5 years in the league. Only reason he lost the job is because the Bulls lucked into the #1 draft spot and took the best player available in Derrick Rose.
He was also voted by the nba coaches to the 2nd team all-defense in 06-07. That was as a point guard.
He’s not going to hold guards to a 7.9, but his defensive ability is not a mirage.
Vinny: "[Thrust] means pace, it means getting the ball out, it means getting your back to the sidelines, it means extending your outlets, it means getting the ball up the court into our early offense with plenty of time."
VDNFTL
Let me guess……Vinnie Del Negro For The……Loss?
Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."
Hinrich to LA?
I think Kirk Hinrich makes perfect sense for the Lakers, he can guard 1s, 2s, and even some 3s. And he can handle the ball, make good passes, and shoot. Great replacement for D. Fish
Morrison, Farmar, and some 2nd rd picks and/or cash is enough to work financially, but Hinrich is pretty skilled and Chicago might want more than just a sack of potatoes for the former lottery pick. But since not many teams really want Hinrich, and the Bulls are trying to play the 2010 Free Agent game, it might not be so bad to let him go for just expiring deals.
But it wouldn’t hurt LA to just inquire, and Jerry Buss does not mind spending money if it means a championship. Now that’s a great owner.
by madhops24 on Jan 27, 2010 11:23 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Vujacic to Bulls?
No, this will not happen. Sasha still has some years left on his contract, and I don’t think the Bulls want to add salary.
They're not adding salary
If they’re trading Hinrich as part of the deal. The difference is enough for Chicago to offer a max contract with their cap space, and they need outside shooting in any case.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
The Bulls fan above is closer to the mark when he suggests the bills would want Morrison (expiring) + Farmar and Powell (cheap).
Bulls would save money in the long run and might be making the calculation that Farmar > Hinrich — which is plausible.
Bulls would need a PG in return to trade Hinrich, and Sasha ain’t gonna cut it.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Ha ha ............. BULLS .................... I'm definitely channeling Reinsdorf there!!!
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
That's why the probable trade is
Farmar, Vujacic, and Morrison for Hinrich and Johnson — Buss gets a marginal increase in the immediate payroll, and Chicago gets a PG replacement.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
ohh yeah I read about this trade
LAKERS PLEASE PLEASE DO IT PLEASE
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by BrittneyM on Jan 28, 2010 8:38 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Bulls fan ere
Hinrich isnt going to put up anything impressive on the offensive end…But his defence will make the lakers almost unbeatable and he can gaurd the 1 or 2 ( or even the 3 as in the boston series against peirce)….Bulls just looking for expirings …Only downer is that lakers will have to pay more for this
If Hinrich is a Laker by the trade deadline, I am drinking a bottle of something very expensive.
We miss you, Ben Gordon!
Share a glass!
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