A Beginner's Guide to the Bynum-Bosh Rumors

Spurs fan checking in first. Of course I don’t need to elaborate how much this would suck :P

Is the psychic impact of losing Adam Morrison for the Lakers.

Does he play Defence? I just never watch Raptor games.

Two things I missed that this post brought up that I didn’t realize was that the only way to make this deal work right now would be to offer additional players. Correct me if I’m wrong but don’t the Lakers already have only 13 players and if they trade Bynum, Ammo and Farmar for Bosh that would leave them 11 players. Second, I am not sure if losing Farmar or even the possibility of losing him is a good thing.

Hilton Armstrong has just been traded to the Kings.

http://www.sbnation.com/2010/1/11/1245500/hilton-armstrong-traded-kings-hornets

If the Lakers included Bynum, Vujacic, and Farmar in the deal for Bosh and Bellinelli, then the salary hit if Bosh signed a maximum extension next year would be roughly equal to the bill if we didn’t make the trade. Another possibility for reducing the immediate tax bill would be to send Fisher as part of the deal, with the stipulation that Toronto immediately give him a buyout, and he’d sign with the Lakers for the minimum after 30 days. The other possibility, although not especially likely, is that Kobe takes a paycut on his extension (around $3 million or so) to allow Kupchak to sign Bosh at the maximum.

1) Jim Buss is really high on Bynum and views him as the next franchise cornerstone.

2) Phil loves Bosh (hence his comments a few years ago that came very close to tampering).

3) Phil and Jeanie are pretty opposed to Jim taking more control of the organization.

4) Jerry Buss commented in the summer about the possible inability for Bynum and Gasol to co-exist in the same frontcourt.

5) Whether Bynum is traded will probably be reflective of who a) wins Dr. Buss’ favor among the competing factions b) is taking more control over the organization.

thanks for the great post. I don’t think Bynum is ever going to develop into the monster the Lakers envision him to be. It’s been four years now, and he still is very one-dimensional and timid when the going gets tough. he’ll put up big numbers when he gets spoon-fed in the post, or when he’s got a serious size advantage, but he doesn’t work hard at all for position, he’s an abysmal passer out of the block, and he only hits the boards to follow his own shot; most other boards he gets are the ones that fall into his hands. I’ve never seen him even attempt to box out. He doesn’t rotate well on D. But my main beef with him is attitude, work ethic and aggressiveness. Of which he has little to none. As the late Frank Layden once said (of Mark Eaton) “You can’t teach height.” Well, you can’t teach heart, either. If this deal is even a remote possibility, and not just Internet nonsense, I say Pull the trigger, Mitch, pull the trigger. We can live without Farmar; his decision-making has been suspect from the beginning, and isn’t getting any better (although you can’t teach speed, either), and I think Gasol, Bosh and Odom/Ron-Ron would be devastating, with more than enough length, versatility and firepower to overcome the “Where’s The Beef?” issues. Unless, of course, Pau gets broken down by playing the 5 full-time.

Bosh and Calderon for Bynum, Farmar, Morrison, Powell, Vujacic, Walton

I don’t even care if we have literally no bench. After this trade our starters would be impossible to stop

i like blckmmba24’s assessment of throwing in vujacic. if this deal is somehow reachable, i can definitely live with bosh for bynum, vujacic, and morrison. is that enough for toronto though?

You guys are all crazy, you don’t cover the Raps at all in sports telecasts, you barely acknowledge we exist. U hate us and we don’t care cuz we HATE u back. Chris Bosh is not gonna go anywhere. T.O is his home and he’s OUR franchise. And Bynum even thinks he’ll ever be a comparable talent to Bosh he needs to wake up and apologize. U want Bosh, you should be saying Gasol and Farmar , AInt no way we want Bynum. T.O Forever, Biggest, best and safest. M.L.S.E and Bryan Colangelo 2 Legit 2 Quit. Screw AMerican Media

FYI: Bosh & Banks (exp 2011) for Bynum, Vujacic (exp 2011) and Morrison’s expiring works under the cap. I am terrified.

http://twitter.com/sportsguy33/status/7635749108

Simmons is scared to hell and beyond about this. I’m convinced. Pull the trigger Mitch, ASAP, so we can see Simmons write a 6,000 word article on how the Lakers will be the team of the next decade.

Like the title says, The East licks. If we finish with even a 550 winning %, that should solidify a 6th seed. And that’s just this year. Toronto can build around Bosh, Colangelo is the most creative GM in the league. Even if we can’t and need to trade him Bynum is not even close to fair Value. I’d rather trade him to Minnesota for Al Jefferson rather than let u die hard Laker Fans become the New York Yankees of the NBA.

A better deal worse come to worse will come up. We’re not close to the deadline and your already trading a top 10 player and arguably the Premier PF in the league for a 22 yr old under achiever and some bench players. WOW. You guys have some balls. If we have to trade him, watch out for the 3 Texas teams tryin to see what’s up. Bosh would never want to play second fiddle to Gasol, he’s too much of a gamer. Phoenix might get in as well. Ill take Stoudemire way before you can talk us into Bynum.

Weak Laker Fans, REAL WEAK.

I heard alot of the same crap from you guys when they jays were trying to move Halladay and we got quite a few assets there. I know Moradi21 aka God of the World, aka 36 year old guy living in his mother’s basement thinks it’s not gonna happen, but patience is a virtue and if not when we move our greatest asset , it’ll be for a whole lot more than Bynum and who said Vujacic???? At least put Farmar back on the table.

You been harpin on my SB history like it means something for like an hour bro. Typical AMerican, U can dish it out but cant take it. No worries I know what’s up.

I been laughing ever since the disclaimer went up.

Words taken from your great article and used to describe the recent troll invasion that has hit our fair land…

And now they’re going the “typical american” route too… wow.

He’s most likely going to leave toronto anyway now or in 2010 because they have pretty much failed to assemble a true contender. Toronto, they might possibly make a trade, because if Bosh enters free agency in 2010, they wont get anything in return and they will be left in complete ruin. Bynum would be a worth considering because he is only 22 years old, he’s a seven footer, and he has shown some flashes of brilliance.

 But I still think its very unlikely to occur. If this will happen most likely we will have to give up a couple of bench players in order to to avoid going further over the salary cap. Possible players that might go: Farmar, Sasha, Morrison, or Powell. This will severely deplete our bench and we will probably end up going further over the salary cap anyway to get some more bench players. Also Bynum also is very young and the Lakers have already invested a lot in him as it is. Hard to imagine Buss letting him go despite some struggles this season. Also Bynum’s at times laziness on defense and early career serious injuries could be reasons why Toronto would not want to make this trade.

Run basically with what some other people have discussed: moving Pau to center, salary cap issues, gelling with the team, and losing Bynum who is a damn good big man.

Another thing to consider. Why wouldn’t Bosh come, get his ring this year, and then leave for more bling? To stay with the Lakers? That would be the hope, but hell, ring + more bling = Bosh going somewhere else.

Just a thought.

want to see bosh in a laker uniform thats just what we needed is more players without heart. if this deal goes down its gonna make it hard for me to really like this team. im a bynum guy always have been bynum is too young and playin like an all star to be shipped out. say what you want but chris bosh sucks

I miss the old Bynum that Blocked shots really good from far away(jumped high) now he looks slow, not that active in the post like Howard, he moves a lot in the post, His play is actually making me consider whether we should trade him for Bosh. I know Bosh is a beast on Offense and can rebound very well.

That is crazy. Anyways, I been in my share of mudslinging bouts to know that when it comes down to it this is all about basketball.

First off, no matter what Raptors fans say, it is the same with any other team, no one wants the Lakers to get Bosh. Either way, I said this before and I’ll say it again, the Raptors better trade Bosh because either way he is leaving.

As far as Bynum, something that I don’t think anyone has brought up. Bynum’s agent killed the Lakers by strong arming them into giving Bynum his current way over paid contract. That to me along with Sasha and Luke’s contracts are killing the Lakers and not allowing them to make additional changes to improve the team. Those three players stand out because they are over paid in terms of their production. In other words, it is possible that if David Lee would not have been so greedy this trade would not be necessary or even considered if Bynum was getting paid so much.

Since all the sports writers and all the Hollingers of the world love to quote stats, there should be stats that show how many Rumors they start and we should measure their
RA% (Rumor Accuracy Percentage) and we can say how likely a rumor can come true based on their so called “sources”.

I guarantee that would cut down P. Vecsey’s bullshit rumors by half.

Quote about Peter Vecsey:

Forgive the analogy, but it occurred to us that a Peter Vecsey column is a lot like going hunting with Dick Cheney. If you’re loud and obnoxious enough to scare the little critters out of hiding and keep loudly blasting away, you’re bound to hit something eventually. And those innocent people who get in the way and take a little bird shot to the face? Collateral damage. Unfortunate, but that’s journalism — at least at the New York Post, anyway. More after the vital statistics.

The keyword is prime. Does the Chief, Bird and Mchale count? Were they on the decline? I’m sure you guys can think of some. My mind is going blank because i’m hungry. : )

nice write up….i am going to throw something out there that may sound crazy. i am not saying it’s plausible, but simply asking.

could kobe be the driving force behind this trade? is he privately pushing management to trade bynum before he himself (kobe) signs an extension with the lakers? we can’t forget that kobe not too long ago seemingly despised bynum. further, we are all aware of his unparalleled desire to win more championships, thus, is he lobbying for another upgrade (if that’s indeed what this trade would be considered), so as to build the lakers into the omnipotent force of the nba—beating out james’ caves, wade’s heat, the celtcs, etc..?

Why not just sigh Lebron James? Same rationale for Cleveland and pretty much same money.

The only trade I would like to see, would be to extend the teams greatness beyond Kobe’s prime. This trade would have possibilities, to do that, but I don’t know. Young talented 7 footers don’t grow on trees.

As of now The NBA looks like this 1. Lakers 8
                                                              2. Celtics 10 (thanks, Hawks)
                                                              3. Cavs 10
                                                               4. Magic 12
                                                               5. Mavs 12

It’s like golf—lowest score wins.

what is BYC?