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The Credits 9/10/09


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I know this isn't Lakers news, but The Greastest Of All Time gets inducted into the Hall tomorrow.  While I'm sure there are many Lakers fans who may think Magic deserves to be considered the GOAT, Jordan is the most accomplished player ever to lace them up.  Congrats, Mike.  I'm glad enough I'm old enough to have watched you in your prime.

Here are some Kobe vs. Jordan Highlights:

 

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Thanks for the links as usual!!!

It’s kinda boring right now, can’t wait for training camp, then preseason and finally the season to start!!!

I thought the referee lockout might be due to the “controversies” the NBA’s experienced recently with all the complaints and scrutiny a lot of referees have faced. The donaghy (sp?) trials certainly don’t help the NBA referee’s images or cause and I think with the media’s constant scrutinization of missed/blown calls during the playoffs that were magnified because of the playoffs, certainly is contributing to why the NBA is hesitant to use those referees.

I mean, how many jokes have we all cracked when Joey Crawford or Steven Jaffie are refereering a game?

Plus NBA referees are (either fairly or unfairly) notorious for being one-sided when it comes to making calls. I mean, how can one team never go the free-throw line an entire quarter? Or when they fall for the hated flopping – is it a charge / offensive call types of plays. Sure, being an referee is tough, after I’m sure they try their best to stay impartial and fair, but it’s still a very subjective way to make calls, which is why fans tend to rag on refs.

If the referees are more consistent with their calls and the Donaghy trials hadn’t happened, I think their negotiations would probably go a lot smoother. Then again, they didn’t go very quickly either in 1995.

Lakers 2009 Road to Redemption: TREVOR, DEREK, LAMAR, PAU & KOBE.
Play the game of which Lakers reminds you of: TA - TI, Shannon Brown - Chris Brown, Pau Gasol - Jesus, Machine - Luis Scola/Russell Brand, PJ with mustache and beard - Colonel Sanders.

by PeanutButterSpread on Sep 10, 2009 4:50 PM PDT reply actions  

I actually think it's good for the NBA's image to have so-called negotiation problems with the refs.

A lot of people think the NBA refs are fixed, or at least think so after the Donaghy scandal. What better way to look straight up and honest but to have a lock out threat? No league where the refs are told to make certain calls would hang their refs out to dry like that. It would only comeback to haunt them. Weird as it sounds, this is good. We know there’s nothing to hide. No bones in the closet.

by wondahbap on Sep 11, 2009 5:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks for putting this up. Btw, I’ve been surprised about the amount of little rumors I’ve read about at the O C Register’s Laker Blog.

- Bynum working out in Atlanta & doing fine. Didn’t work out with D Howard as was discussed during The Finals. Due to return to L A for camp soon.

- Farmar changed his jersey number from 5 to 1 (is that in honor of Smush or something)? Let’s hope he has a great year.

-Artest took a bunch of fans to a Sparks WNBA game.

Sorry if these are repeats from elsewhere.

Haters beware: Kobe's drive for 5 starts now!-SLAM Magazine

by olf on Sep 10, 2009 4:52 PM PDT reply actions  

After LO re-signed it's downhill from there

any news is involving other teams. We’re the defending Champs with only one roster move. It was bound to be a boring summer once the roster was set. As far as real news. There are always links, but I won’t be able to post them as frequently as I was for the time being. My schedule has changed and it doesn’t allow me to read or search as much. Until I’m used to how my day plays out.

Hopefully, once training camp starts, we’ll start seeing articles on a regular basis.

p.s. I actually meant to link the Farmar number change. I added it.

by wondahbap on Sep 11, 2009 5:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Cool. I appreciate your hard work.

Haters beware: Kobe's drive for 5 starts now!-SLAM Magazine

by olf on Sep 11, 2009 7:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Michael Jordan

I for one enjoyed MJ. I feel fortunate enough to watch him play in his prime. He was amazing. Although I am a die-hard Laker fan I can appreciate greatness. Even watching highlights of him brings back memories and I can’t believe I watched a lot of those games live. I think that the same thing will happen years down the line when I see Lakers/Kobe highlights. I will realize that I should appreciate these moments more because back then I had no appreciation for what I was witnessing.

"When I walked into the locker room on my first day as a Laker and saw my gold uniform hanging there, I cried." - Magic Johnson (Best Laker Ever)

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Sep 11, 2009 7:36 AM PDT reply actions  

I was watching the '91 Finals Game 2 last night, on ESPN Classic.

It was the 1st time I’ve seen it since it happened, and it was more painful this time around than it was in ’91. Seeing the way the Bulls destroyed the Lakers flow and limited Magic hurt. Th Bulls took away the transition and Magic was forcing it.

I’m sure Magic’s tragic retirement was easier for him to swallow knowing he was he wasn’t The Man anymore. Mike had been a great player up to that point, but when he became a Champion, Magic and everyone else had to know he wasn’t giving it up. We all know, MJ didn’t. He never looked back.

by wondahbap on Sep 11, 2009 8:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

That does sting

to watch that game is really brutal. I’m not sure if Worthy and B. Scott only missed game 5 or any of the other games but it would be interesting to see how much of a difference that would of made.

The most obvious thing to me about those MJ highlights was how much MJ was in his players’ ASS! I mean he was intense. I have never seen any player not only that passionate but he also was in his teammates’ ear constantly.

"When I walked into the locker room on my first day as a Laker and saw my gold uniform hanging there, I cried." - Magic Johnson (Best Laker Ever)

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Sep 11, 2009 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Those hands man, those hands

Although Kobe and Michael did have very similar games, one marked difference was how Michael could finish because of his octopus hands. I don’t just mean dunking, I’m talking about the layups and the way he could spin the ball off the glass, allowing him to hang and twist and then lay it up at various angles. With smaller hands you have fewer angles to shoot layups from and you can’t get as much english on the ball.

Still, I should mention that Kobe is a much better long distance shooter , lest anyone think I am a Kobe basher (don’t look at the just percentages as those are skewed by different contexts, instead take a look at video of MJ in the three-point contest, please. Here, I’ll make it easy for you.).

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by Gils_Keloids on Sep 11, 2009 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

That was a huge advantage that Jordan had.

But you are right. Kobe’s range is amazing.

"When I walked into the locker room on my first day as a Laker and saw my gold uniform hanging there, I cried." - Magic Johnson (Best Laker Ever)

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Sep 11, 2009 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

This isn't much but at least its something something to talk about:
More Navarro: So after the Memphis Grizzlies and restricted free agent Juan Carlos Navarro have agreed that the Qualifying Offer could be rescinded, he is now an unrestricted free agent. Last summer, also as a restricted free agent with the Grizz, Navarro signed a five-year, $15 million contract to play for FC Barcelona in Spain.

So what does this mean? Will we ever see Navarro back in the NBA? Don’t count on it. He had a decent year his one season with the Grizzlies in 2007-08 (10.9 points, 2.6 rebounds, 2.9 assists, 36% shooting from three), but according to sources it was also frustrating, perhaps to the point where he would never give the NBA a second chance. But if he did, where might he go?

Part of the appeal of going to the Grizzlies in the first place was the ability to play with fellow Spaniard Pau Gasol, which could give the Los Angeles Lakers an edge on everyone else should Navarro decide a second stint in the NBA is worthwhile. Are the Lakers interested? Yes, yes they are.

However, the Lakers can only offer a minimum contract, which is not going to entice Navarro to make the jump. Keep in mind, though, the Grizzlies can still work Navarro in a sign-and-trade deal (if they did not also renounce his rights when they cancelled the Qualifying Offer), so should they decide they wanted to help the Lakers out (very likely with the benefit of a future #1 pick and some cash to take on a Lakers contract), it’s still doable. Do they still own his rights? Probably not – they had to remove Navarro’s cap hold in order to sign Iverson.

Likely in 2009? No, not at all. Next year would seem to be even more likely rather than this one, but again it’s not entirely clear Navarro would ever consider the NBA again.


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by E-ROC on Sep 11, 2009 9:54 AM PDT reply actions  

Navarro would be a fantastic backup point

And per wondahbap, his foul line floater, perhaps best demonstrated repeatably in the gold medal game against Spain in Beijing, is great.

This is really as low risk as one can get, and 1) he’ll be motivated, as he’s playing for a winning team and with Pau, who he’s great friends with 2) it’s for the minimum, so it’s hardly a big issue.

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by Ben R on Sep 11, 2009 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think he'd come to play back up. He makes good money at home where is the THE MAN.

In a good league. If he came here, he’d start. Jordan wold get traded. I don’t say this because I knocking Jordan, I’m just not too sure of his future as a Laker.

Imagine how deadly JCN’s floater would be when teams are afraid to step up because Pau or Drew or LO are ready to receive a pass if they commit.

by wondahbap on Sep 11, 2009 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

E-roc

One question. Do you have the link or something where it says that the Lakers are interested? Thank you.

"When I walked into the locker room on my first day as a Laker and saw my gold uniform hanging there, I cried." - Magic Johnson (Best Laker Ever)

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Sep 12, 2009 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nope. This is all Hoopsworld information, and speculation.

No other news outlet confirms that the Lakers might have interest in JCN. Eric Pincus at Hoopsworld covers the Lakers and Clippers. You can hit him with an email to ask. He’ll definitely email you back, immediately.

by E-ROC on Sep 12, 2009 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

thnx

great story. I sure hope if the Lakers have a chance at him they would get him. Maybe next year. That would solve the long debate/questions regarding who will replace the aging Fisher.

"When I walked into the locker room on my first day as a Laker and saw my gold uniform hanging there, I cried." - Magic Johnson (Best Laker Ever)

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Sep 12, 2009 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nicely done, man, as usual. Kudos.

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by LatinD on Sep 11, 2009 4:48 PM PDT reply actions  

Michael Jordan's speach was epic.

My favorite line: “There is no ‘I’ in team, but there is an ‘I’ in win.” Classic.

I wonder how much better Kobe would be if he had Michael Jordan’s hands. We can only dream. Congrats to Jordan.

by E-ROC on Sep 11, 2009 6:41 PM PDT reply actions  

That was a great statement

Even in his speech you could see his competitiveness. You can see why he was so great. I loved how he called out the Bulls’ owner. He truly spoke from the heart like he said he would. Not matter how much of a Laker fan anyone is we have to appreciate greatness.

"When I walked into the locker room on my first day as a Laker and saw my gold uniform hanging there, I cried." - Magic Johnson (Best Laker Ever)

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Sep 11, 2009 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought his speech was a little petty.

He sounded kinda bitter. Reminding everyone of his greatness. He made sure everyone one doubted him remembered their mistake for passing up on him. It was kinda sad because despite the fact he is the greatest to play the game, he sounded so petty during his speech.

He wasn’t humble, self-deprecating, gratified, honored …

It was a moment for him to list out all the people he thought wronged him.

Jeff Van Gundy and Bryon Russell.
Flying Leroy Smith and Coach Pop Herring out to the induction and reminding them that Herring was wrong for choosing Smith over him.
Tell his kids that he wouldn’t want to be them.
Saying, "There is no ‘I’ in team, but there is an ‘I’ in win." – I mean come on, really?!

Lots of douchebaggery going on in his speech. I just thought it was kinda sad.

Lakers 2009 Road to Redemption: TREVOR, DEREK, LAMAR, PAU & KOBE.
Play the game of which Lakers reminds you of: TA - TI, Shannon Brown - Chris Brown, Pau Gasol - Jesus, Machine - Luis Scola/Russell Brand, PJ with mustache and beard - Colonel Sanders.

by PeanutButterSpread on Sep 12, 2009 3:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

At first I got the exact same feelings

I think the word petty fits his speech perfectly. He said in an interview with Michael Wilbon that he was going to be honest in his speech and he sure was. Anyone watching it could of taken it either way. I really admired him for being honest. I think that many people who knew him personally were not surprised by his comments because that is who he was. He played the game with the same chip on his shoulder that he spoke with and although that translated into greatness on the court, of the court, as we seen yesterday was completely petty. That is why many people say that many times a players competitiveness is great while the sport is being played but for someone like MJ he cannot shut that down. So in his personal life it comes out at as a flaw. He is like that 24/7 and just like Jerry West has said before it is a sad burden to carry that with you all the time. As sad as it may be, without that fire in him he would not of been Michael Jordan on the court and that is the MJ that I admire.

"When I walked into the locker room on my first day as a Laker and saw my gold uniform hanging there, I cried." - Magic Johnson (Best Laker Ever)

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Sep 12, 2009 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Earvin Magic Johnson

was the goat and had way more skills and mj isnt even as good as kobe

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by Czheck on Sep 12, 2009 12:46 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

the number 5 in the laker jerseys dont look really nice.. nice change farmar

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by A.R. Steezy on Sep 13, 2009 1:52 AM PDT reply actions  

Didn’t see this coming. Sun Yue signed with the Knicks

http://www.theknicksblog.com/2009/09/13/knicks-sign-sun-yue/

"Sun Yue has agreed to terms with the Knicks on a partially guaranteed deal."

Word is the contract is a one year deal.

by intuitive on Sep 13, 2009 5:51 PM PDT reply actions  

Romona Shelburne has it up on her twitter as well.

Just got word former Laker Sun Yue has signed a one-year deal with the Knicks

http://twitter.com/ramonashelburne/status/3963619457

by intuitive on Sep 13, 2009 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

What the f?

The knicks can’t find any one better with their money?

by altree on Sep 13, 2009 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

I really don't know what the hell the Knicks are doing, Sun Yue? Is he really in their plans?

I like them when spreewell and Houston was playing but they have been dieing ever since

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by BrittneyM on Sep 13, 2009 7:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is Isiah Thomas still running the Knicks?

wtf!

"When I walked into the locker room on my first day as a Laker and saw my gold uniform hanging there, I cried." - Magic Johnson (Best Laker Ever)

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Sep 13, 2009 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not going to bash Yue or Knicks. Very low risk move with very little upside,

at least on the surface. Maybe Mike D’Antoni can something in Sun Yue and make him average.

by E-ROC on Sep 14, 2009 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Juan Carlos Navarro probably isn't happening.
Juan Carlos Not Coming: The Memphis Grizzlies renounced their rights to Juan Carlos Navarro who spent the last year in Spain playing for Regal Barcelona. The Grizz made the move to clear cap space to ink Allen Iverson to an incentive-filled deal that would push his guaranteed base salary of $3.5 million to just at $4.4 million. Incentives deemed “easily achieved” count against the cap, so the Grizzlies had to make the move.

Since the announcement, there has been some speculation on what happens to Navarro next, and while there are a handful of teams with interest, the odds Navarro is in the NBA this year are remote.

Last summer Navarro surprised many when he opted to return to Spain dumping the Grizzlies and the NBA for a return to FC Barcelona, agreeing to a five-year, 15 million Euro contract. Part of the agreement last summer, as Navarro owed roughly $10 million as a buyout, was Barcelona waived the debt as part of the deal getting Juan Carlos back. It is believed he has an equally prohibitive clause in his current deal which expires in 2012.

It is not out of the question that Navarro returns to the NBA in the summer of 2010, but it’s going to take someone dipping into their cap space to get him, he won’t be coming back to the NBA for middle tier exception money – it’s going to take a massive contract to get him out of Barcelona.
And just when you thought the Ricky Rubio story was over… keep in mind Navarro and Rubio now play for the same team, and both have hefty buyouts insuring they are with Regal for the near future.


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That’s a lot of scratch to pay just to get him into this country let alone sign for a contract.

by E-ROC on Sep 14, 2009 9:27 AM PDT reply actions  

Elonu (Lakers 59th draft pick) signs with Zaragoza

CAI Zaragoza added Chinemelu Elonu (208-F/C-87) to the roster. The 22-year-old Nigerian centre recently graduated from Texas A&M University. He averaged 9.8 points, 7.3 boards and 1.6 blocks per game in the previous season. The Junior was named to the Big 12 All-Academic 1st Team in 2009. Chinemelu Elonu participated at the NBA Summer League this summer. He tallied 8.2 points and 6.2 rebounds per game for the LA Lakers.

http://www.africabasket.com/Nigeria/basketball.asp?NewsID=171891

by intuitive on Sep 14, 2009 6:43 PM PDT reply actions  

Congrats to Elonu

His chance of making the Lakers roster was less than 1%, so I’m glad he was at least able to sign with someone else and have a guaranteed contract plus money going in for himself and his family.

BTW. anyone know what happened to all our Pre-season Lakers from last year?
CJ Miles (or was it Giles?) and Joe Crawford, etc. Are they still in the d-league?

Lakers 2009 Road to Redemption: TREVOR, DEREK, LAMAR, PAU & KOBE.
Play the game of which Lakers reminds you of: TA - TI, Shannon Brown - Chris Brown, Pau Gasol - Jesus, Machine - Luis Scola/Russell Brand, PJ with mustache and beard - Colonel Sanders.

by PeanutButterSpread on Sep 15, 2009 1:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Crawford, at the end of the season, got a contract with the Knicks for a one year deal. Don’t know what he’s doing now.

by intuitive on Sep 16, 2009 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bill Russell is the most accomplished player to lace them up.

by brianfbb on Sep 15, 2009 4:30 AM PDT reply actions  

Technically. Maybe.

But I can’t consider 11 Rings in an 8 team NBA on par with Jordan’s 6 Rings, 5 MVP’s 6 Finals MVP’s, 10 scoring titles, 10 ALL-NBA 1st teams, 9 1st team All Defense, DPOY, ROY in a 26-30 team league with free agency.

by wondahbap on Sep 15, 2009 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

No disrespect to Bill Russell.

He can’t help the era he played in, and his teams dominated the other 7 to 13 teams in that era. But records are made to be broken. even if his record wasn’t actually broken, the perception of it was.

by wondahbap on Sep 15, 2009 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

The perception is there because there are more people now who have watched Michael Jordan play than there are who had access to Bill Russell’s games. Also, we should be fair in comparing aforementioned statistics: Russell also had 5 MVPs and probably would have equally been in the same conversation for All Defense and DPOY, had they given those awards out back then. Anyway, just making sure nobody’s overlooking an often overlooked basketball player.

by brianfbb on Sep 15, 2009 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also:

In reading the Pau Gasol is Rodney Dangerfield of the NBA article, I’d like to mention that Shaun Powell is not and should not be the voice of Lakers fans when it comes to generalizing Gasol’s importance to the Lakers. Gasol was the second best power forward behind Dirk in performance last year. In fact, I feel like Gasol’s acquisition gave more hope to the Lakers their fans than anything ever did before post-Shaq (did you really think Kobe-Odom-Bynum were legitimate conteders?). Not only is he a “top shelf companion,” but he’s a bonafide first option on many other teams, and a champion with the Lakers.

by brianfbb on Sep 15, 2009 5:14 AM PDT reply actions  

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