Late Late Credits 7/1/2009
by Gils_Keloids on Jul 1, 2009 10:38 PM PDT
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PrintThe big news is that Ariza may leave the Lakers, as linked by ryebreadraz below, and here:
- Sources: Trevor Ariza leaning toward leaving Los Angeles Lakers - ESPN
The 24-year-old swingman, who played a key role in the Lakers' run to their 15th NBA championship, is on the verge of leaving the club, sources close to the situation said on Wednesday. With at least five teams pursuing Ariza, the Lakers are currently unwilling to pay him more than the $5.6 million mid-level exception. "They're letting him go," one of the sources said.
This has prompted rumors of the Lakers pursuing Artest, and vice versa
- Is Ron-Ron really coming? - Lakers blog - OCRegister.com
If you checked one Twitter account supposedly belonging to Ron Artest, the tempermental swingman left Houston and was headed to either L.A. His messages are cryptic, but suggestive. “THANKS A LOT HOUSTON :) I HAD A LOT OF FUN.”
Not many other links to report on, the Pistons signed Gordon and Charlie V, the Blazers want Hedo, and a bunch of rumors. Where will Sheed end up?
- Pistons agree to deals with Gordon, Villanueva - USATODAY.com
On the first day of the NBA's free-agency period, the Pistons made major moves to shore up their three-point shooting and perimeter athleticism by agreeing to deals with cov eted free agents Ben Gordon and Charlie Villanueva, the Detroit Free Press... - Afternoon update - Inside the Lakers
If you missed free agent Trevor Ariza on the radio this afternoon, you didn't miss much. Ariza was interviewed by A Martinez and Steve Lavin on KSPN-710. They tossed a few softballs Ariza's way and he did his best to answer. Nothing earth-shattering. - freedarko.com: Taking One For the Team: On Converting Your S.O. Into A Sports Fan
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NBA executives have never faced a group of restricted free agents like this before. Unrestricted, sure, while bracing for next July and the unrestricteds who will prompt the mother of all spending sprees, nay, the octomom of all spending sprees. But for the restricteds, who mostly negotiate aware that the original team will match any reasonable offer sheet, this is the unique moment.
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oops missed that one thanks
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by Gils_Keloids on Jul 1, 2009 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions
and posted this in the post below, but everyone should read this. His agent is blowing smoke in an effort to make the Lakers over pay.
Look, don’t get me wrong. There’s certainly a chance that Team Ariza and Team Buss are planning a trip to Impasse County. But there’s also a chance- my gut says a better one- that we’re getting another taste of how Lee operates: Lots of public complaints and barely veiled threats. Little in the way of clients leaving their most recent employers. Maybe I’m under-thinking this, but most of these scenarios floated around strike me as either unrealistic, undesirable or both.
http://lakersblog.latimes.com/lakersblog/2009/07/trevor-arizas-negotiations-a-quick-thought.html
and Artest has too much fun with Twitter.
How much would the Lakers pay Artest if they didn't sign Ariza?
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by Gils_Keloids on Jul 1, 2009 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t think we’d be able to offer him anything more than the MLE. I hope we wouldn’t sign him for anything more anyway. I think Artest is bluffing though. His tweets are similar to Amar’e’s tweets of coming to the Lakers. Would you like him to play for LA? I never was a bhuge fan of his.
Artest would be a good plan B if the Lakers could not agree to terms with Ariza
Of course, I am assuming Kobe and Phil would keep him in line on the offensive end.
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by Gils_Keloids on Jul 1, 2009 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree, Grant Hill would be nice too. I haven’t watched much of him though, but he seems like a pretty solid guy. Rumor has it Lakers are interested in him.
I'd like artest over grant hill
Artest isn’t as old as hill and has shown he’s still a player and especially a defender. Grant Hill is a mere shadow of what he once was
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Hill is a consumate vet
and a great teammate. His skills are still decent, better than Luke Walton’s, for example. I’d take Hill over Artest any day, because with Crazy Pills, we’d always have a chance of him suddenly throwing a wrench in the team chemistry midway through the playoffs.
Personally, I’d like to see Artest end up in Cleveland. Could that team suddenly become any bigger and slower? They got beat up with size, but they got FAT size. I mean, look at this roster!! Big Z, Shaq, Lebron, Ron-Ron… could they get any slower? They might be the most physical team, and a great matchup for Boston, but the Lakers and Magic will still run circles around them and jump higher than them.
What about
The likes of Walter Herman or Matt Barnes? Cheap and has similar skill sets. Except Herman is more of a bruiser.
Oh yeah and Powell and Mbenga are staying. Mitch picked up their options for next season.
http://my.lakers.com/blogs/2009/07/01/powell-mbenga-back-for-2009-10/
Artests new tweet
i just signed my deal. we ballin tonight. champagne on me
and
Ron Artest could be departing the Houston Rockets after just one season with the team.
“NBA sources told FOX 26 Sports Wednesday it is unlikely free agent forward Ron Artest will return to the Houston Rockets.”
“League sources told FOX 26 the Rockets would be willing to offer Artest a one-year contract at best. The sources said because of that the chances of Artest re-signing with Houston are remote.”
ron is serious about coming to the lakers. he loves kobe. he wants to win a title. i’d take ron. he’s tough. we need more toughness. we can probably bring back ariza, odom, and sign artest as well, for the mle.
whoa, that would be sweet
To get Odom, Ariza, AND Artest.
Someone’s going to say this isn’t possible, I never keep up with the tax situation and such.
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by Gils_Keloids on Jul 1, 2009 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions
we only have one MLE
so I don’t think Buss is gonna wanna spend to get both Ariza AND Artest
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he can. what about the veteran minimum. artest doesnt carea bout the money. i think we can get all 3
didnt think about the vet minimum...
…yeah guess it could happen but he’s still got value so don’t think it will
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This whole thing is Ariza's agent (David Lee) doing...
Has everyone already forgot that David is also Bynums’s agent and how aggressive and upset he was that the Lakers were taking so long to sign Bynum? His first tactic was to use the media. I would not be surprised at all if Chris Broussard’s “source” was David Lee. Chris gets gets his breaking news story and David tries to stretch the arm of the Lakers.
We all need to remember how hard we have all been on Kupchak for over paying for both Luke and Sasha. I think he is doing the right thing. He is only being a wise business by saying, “I don’t know what the market’s going to be”. In other words, why pay more than the mid-level exception which is what most teams can offer him. I am sure that the Lakers organization is asking him to come back with a higher offer so that the Lakers could counter offer. This is a business but if he forces the Lakers to keep Odom and sign Artest then so be it. Let’s see who blinks first.
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Jul 1, 2009 11:01 PM PDT reply actions
I agree
Any news that comes out has an ulterior motive.
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by Gils_Keloids on Jul 1, 2009 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Latest Quote From a Laker's source..
“The Lakers are willing to match the other offers on the table for Ariza, according to the source, but they’re not going to overpay simply because it’s their own player.”
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Jul 1, 2009 11:05 PM PDT reply actions
and some other news, Yao is having surgery.
http://www.nba.com/2009/news/features/fran_blinebury/07/01/blinebury.yao/index.html
Now, after consulting with the Rockets’ medical staff and a handful of specialists on the East Coast, a decision has been made to have Yao undergo surgery once more to repair the stress fracture in the tarsal navicular bone of his left foot, according to several sources. What has not yet been determined is the exact method for the repair.
By having the surgery soon, the hope is that Yao will be able to return to the basketball court by the second half of the 2009-10 season and possibly be at full strength for the playoffs.
This is sad
I love the Lakers but to see such a great guy go down like this is just horrible. I really hope to see him come back.
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Jul 1, 2009 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Artest on the knicks
http://twitter.com/96TruwarierQB
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yeah, too much money
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Artest is a nice backup plan incase Trevor wants to be Grimmey and leave us but
It would be nice if Trevor cut this foolishness now and just stay with the Lakers, I think Trevor’s a better fit.
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lol its hard for me to leave my computer...
…in my head i know nothing is gonna happen tonite…but i still cant get away haha
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just close ure eyes and count Trevors
by chaucer on Jul 1, 2009 11:29 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
NY's Lee is the dumbest deal of free agency so far
Then the Knicks wonder why they are where they are. He is not worth that at all. That to me is right up there with the deal that Turiaf got out GSW and what Luke got out of the Lakers.
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Jul 1, 2009 11:43 PM PDT reply actions
32 mil for four years..
He is not worth that. For that money I know the Knicks could of done better.
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Jul 2, 2009 12:04 AM PDT up reply actions
REALLY?? YEAH thats a dumb deal
Lee is only good for rebounds and putbacks, 32 mil is crazy for a guy who offers no d and teams don’t plan to stop Lee. Lee is not a guy I want on my team, this is why the Knicks suck and why I could never be a fan.
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According to a Twitter post by Yahoo’s Adrian Wojnarowski, Trevor Ariza will become a very rich man at the hands of the team that loses out on Hedo Turkoglu.
League executives believe Portland or Toronto, whichever team does not sign Turkoglu, will offer Ariza between $32 million and $40 million deal.
I hate Twitter
“League executives believe” is hardly something that I can go off of. I was just reading this on Yahoo. On one hand everyone who is considered a news reporter is trying to fight to be the first to break the Ariza news. If Ariza gets that offered to him then I say first off for how long is the deal for and then the Lakers could go from there. As long as the deal averages out to 6.5 million a year at the most then I say match it. If not, let him walk. As I said before, I would rather keep LO and sign Artest for the MLE. Eventhough Ariza is young this Laker team needs players that can help the Lakers win during Kobe’s prime. Who knows when we will be fortunate to win a title after Kobe leaves.
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Jul 1, 2009 11:55 PM PDT up reply actions
WHAT??? NO TREVOR DAMN
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If Toronto is committing to Ariza or Hedo, that means Marion is still out there.
He might be another possible replacement. Would he take the MLE to play for the Lakers though?
Why I'm now worried about Ariza leaving...
I am tired of hearing these supposed rumors about Ariza. It is fun for discussion but there has not been any solid or concrete proof that Ariza will leave the Lakers. I am sure of one thing and that is that if Ariza was really serious about wanting to return to the Lakers and that he is going to treat this as a business deal then both he and his agent would contact the Lakers once an offer bigger than the MLE is on the table. The key words are “Market Value” so until his true value is made by an actual offer I know that Ariza will at least give the Lakers the chance to match it. Why in the world would Kupchak and the Lakers commit to a price higher than the MLE? His agent must show that his client is worth it considering all the barking that he is doing.
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Jul 2, 2009 12:13 AM PDT reply actions
Signing Off..
Much props to all Laker fans out there. I thought that I was the only crazy one to stay up this late talking about the Lakers. Maybe when I wake up at 6am we might have a different team. Either way it’s nice to see that the Lakers are back on top again regardless of who we have on the team. As long as we have the core of Pau and Kobe we will be okay. Wow! Champions again. I’m still not over it!
Earlier Justin N wrote “…in my head i know nothing is gonna happen tonite…but i still cant get away haha” and all I can think is that I know the feeling. G nite! guys…
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Jul 2, 2009 12:33 AM PDT reply actions
Ariza "leaving" is just a negotiating ploy.
If he was really upset, and wanted to leave, he would.
Him not being happy with the Lakers offer wouldn’t be an issue. It is because he wants to be Laker and wants as much as he can get. Simple.
with the possibility that artest might come to LA i am less concerned about ariza leaving. if i had to choose between the two, i am not sure who i’d take…
It's not about 2nd (or 3rd, or 4th chances).
It’s about his play. I don’t like his play. PLus, I think LA is too much lights for him. He’s bound to crack.
I hear ya.
I would rather have Ariza over Artest easily. I really hope both sides work something out.
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..their was a story that Artest may be interested in going to Cleveland that he met w/ Lebron the other Cleveland officials the other day.
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More Ariza fluff:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4303256
A person close to the situation tells The Associated Press that the Houston Rockets are meeting with Los Angeles Lakers forward Trevor Ariza. The person, who did not want to be identified because the negotiations were ongoing, said Rockets general manager Daryl Morey was meeting with the free agent in Las Vegas.
Never mind that the Rockets can’t offer more than the MLE, and have already hinted they want to use at least part of it on Gortat.
i always got the vibe from trevor that he was serious about leaving the lakers even before free agency began. he did say he would go for the money.
and the agent is still talking
“The Rockets have liked Trevor for a long time,” Lee said. “They covet what he can do.”
Lee said he has already received a number of offers, most of them are the mid-level exception.
“But two of three of those offers are more than that,” Lee said.
http://www.myfoxhouston.com/dpp/sports/nba/090702_ariza_rockets
LOL
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Which teams are offering more than the MLE?
Care to speculate?
I hope it’s Toronto and OKC, because those are the least attractive destinations, in terms of weather as well as team’s contention possibilities.
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Toronto. Portland might get in the mix if Hedo ends up going to Toronto.
I don’t think Ariza would do well in Toronto, and Chris Bosh is going to leave in 2010 so…
Yeah Portland needs another wing player
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he shanghaied mitch into overpaying byum, now he’s trying to do the same. like i said, i would be ok with the lakers paying trevor 6.5-7 million a year. because he brings something to the floor that neither bynum, walton, nor sasha have brought tot his day—energy and hustle.
i think the thing is...
we’d pay him 6.5-7 mil if we werent in the luxury so bad. the reason we can only give the MLE is because if we go over the mle 5.6 to say 6.5 we’re actually paying more like 13 million because of taxes
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i doubt he’ll be as effective a player on another team that lacks star players. keep in mind he only averaged 8.9 pts a game. regardless, it was the little things he did on the court that made him a fan favorite. i wonder if he’ll be able to do the same for a team with less stars. some players are simply role players. his function was the former on a team featuring two marquee players (gasol and bryant). the attention they demand gave him the freedom to hit those 3s and slash to the rack. what would he do in houston? he could possible average 15 pts a game, but who knows…
I mean if Trevor wants to go then go, this situation in sickening to me
because those same teams are gonna give him the same amount of money and the Lakers are trying to keep the team together, Trevor has to recognize that and give the Lakers a break. I wouldn’t be that mad if he leaves but Lakers will just have to make sure they replace him.
There are basic Fundamentals that are needed to move forward in this game. Always keep your guard up at all times to avoid being caught in a trap. Overcome the fouls that will be commited against you REBOUND AND PRESS ON. ADJUST to the LimeLight: ALL-STAR PLAYERS ARE ALWAYS THE CENTER OF ATTENTION. Know what your role is and play your position. Find a game plan and execute it. REMEMBER YOU ONLY GET OUT OF THE GAME WHAT YOU PUT INTO IT.
i don’t like the fact he’s visiting with teams who cannot offer him more than the MLE. that could be a negotiation ploy, but nevertheless it’s disappointing to see if you are a lakers fan. i am two rumors and half a day away from simply telling him to fuck off and sign with another team.
+1000
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trevor's not worth the money
i love ariza, he’s one of my favorite players on the team, but you cannot give a guy like this 9 mil. i know he played excellent defense, hell, he’s probably our 2nd best defender behind kobe, but that offensive explosion he had in the post season basically came from being left open behind the three point line due to playing with the greatest player in the game.
and i hate to say it, but i really hope cleveland makes the mistake of taking ariza over odom in the FA market. artest carried the rockets though their great playoff run this year, while ariza basically just sat back and banged wide open threes. the only thing on trevor’s side is his upside. but when it comes to winning championships NOW, you go with the greater talent, whether it be odom in LA, or artest in cleveland. to me those are the two right moves for each team respectively.
Mitch knows what he's doing
In the end, Ariza is not going to get the money he wants. Maybe around $6.5 million, but the Lakers knew what they were doing in their first offer.
Lee, Trevor’s agent, has tried the “everybody has interest in Ariza” tactic. The problem is, it doesn’t make sense. Cleveland and Houston are both over the cap and cannot offer more than the MLE. Only Cleveland is a championship contender. Portland, on the other hand, can offer more than the MLE, but they, like Cleveland, want someone else. Both are using Ariza as countershots to Hedo and Artest negotiations. Portland dangles the threat of signing Ariza instead of Hedo doesn’t cooperate, costing Hedo MILLIONS (no one else will sign him for what he wants except Portland). Cleveland on the other hand is threating Artest with the prospect of being stuck in Houston as the sole producer, because they would be just as happy with Ariza.
All of this is merely smoke signals, folks. Hedo’s going to Portland. Ariza’s staying in LA. So is Odom (no one he wants to play for can afford him except us, so checkmate.) The only real question is… does Artest really leave Houston for Cleveland?
I feel the same way though the reports are frustrating and the possibility of things going a different way is also frustrating
Lakers MUST get this done
There are basic Fundamentals that are needed to move forward in this game. Always keep your guard up at all times to avoid being caught in a trap. Overcome the fouls that will be commited against you REBOUND AND PRESS ON. ADJUST to the LimeLight: ALL-STAR PLAYERS ARE ALWAYS THE CENTER OF ATTENTION. Know what your role is and play your position. Find a game plan and execute it. REMEMBER YOU ONLY GET OUT OF THE GAME WHAT YOU PUT INTO IT.
Gortat to the Mavs (possibly)
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4303432
Sources told ESPN.com that the Mavericks are bringing Gortat to town to tour the area and the team’s facilities after extending him an offer believed to be worth Dallas’ full mid-level exception — which could translate to a five-year deal starting at roughly $5.6 million — in hopes of dissuading the Orlando Magic from matching the offer.
Gortat averaged just 3.8 points and 4.5 rebounds per game last season and 3.3 points and 3.2 rebounds during the Magic’s run to the NBA Finals, but his opportunities in Orlando were limited behind All-Star center Dwight Howard.
Does Ariza have to sign a big deal now?
Can’t Ariza sign a shorter deal now — he’s only 24 — then pursue a big contract later? Fisher’s contract is off the books after next season, Sasha and Morrison the season after.
I don’t fault Ariza for wanting to cash in big right now seeing that his stock is at its highest ever, but I don’t see Ariza as a top 3 player on a team, which he will have to be if he leaves the Lakers. He could sign a $30-40M contract now, but what if the team he bolts for is languishing by the end of his deal? If there’s one thing he should’ve learned growing up a Lakers fan, it’s that this franchise is consistently contending for championships. His stock will only continue to rise playing for the Lakers providing him with an opportunity to seek an ever bigger deal than the one he is striving for now.
3 Minute ago - credible?
http://www.insidesocal.com/lakers/2009/07/artest-to-lakers.html
I just got a text from my buddy Ken Berger at CBSSports.com who is reporting that Ron Artest just told him he is going to sign with the Lakers.
More to come…
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Ken Berger puts his credibility on the line: Artest to Lakers
Ken Berger’s twitter http://twitter.com/KBerg_CBS
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whoa
this means no ariza? maybe ariza should fire his agent, his asking price just got cheaper
Bills make me wanna SHOUT!
by silverstreak3k on Jul 2, 2009 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions
well i think if artest signs
that proves artest was cheaper……which is weird because as much as i like ariza, hes not as accomplished as artest. i think its funny tho, who else is gonna ofeer ariza more than us? now hell get stuck with a MLE and on a crappy team
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by silverstreak3k on Jul 2, 2009 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, There is still hope we could re-sign Odom and Artest… But then there are only so many back up forwards you can have. I’m not sure. Only if we didn’t have Luke damn it
haha
thats for sure, maybe someone will take him in a trade? some team out there needs depth right?
Bills make me wanna SHOUT!
by silverstreak3k on Jul 2, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions
We have Luke all the way up into 2013. No ones going to want that contract. Especially for his production. I don’t know what Mitch was thinking with that contract. It was basically the full MLE (not to mention lengthy) contract for someone like Luke. sigh I don’t mind him, he just gets paid way too much for his type of production
Still waiting for a respected site to confirm
I want to know the terms.
The Lakers had better be keeping Odom, too!
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Hold on just a sec - Artest SAYS he's signing with the Lakers?
http://ken-berger.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/11838893/15861966
Even if he says it, I won’t believe it till the ink is dry. Let’s see what the Lakers have to say.
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if he did sign
we know why, he was willing to take less money to be on a good team, too bad ariza didnt feel the same way
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by silverstreak3k on Jul 2, 2009 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Good
Now we have a scapegoat besides Kobe if the Lakers don’t repeat!
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I love this move.
Artest is an upgrade over ariza especially if it’s for the same money. Now we just need to get odom to sign.
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Remember, Artest shot 40% from three last season
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But his overall FG%. And he has “sticky hands” he loooves to have the ball. I hope he’s coming off the bench, I’m not a fan of this idea. But if Artest is playing for cheap, could that mean we could keep Ariza?
I think Ariza’s agent was blowing smoke about Ariza wanting to play else where and actually going to play for another team. Ariza loves LA. It’s going to be interesting. Blah
that's definitely his biggest fault
he can be a brick-layer at times, but kobe, gasol and even bynum would be offensive options before him. unlike when he was with the rockets and kings, he won’t be expected to score very much just be a spot-up shooter and defend.
3/19/2009 - Dogus Balbay Made a Three-Pointer. Never Forget.
“I don’t really care about the money,” Artest said. “I’ll play there for nothing. … L.A. was very interested in me, and they got me.”
He better mean it. I don’t know how I should feel about this
So ... the Lakers should offer him the vet minimum then!
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thanks for the memories, trevor.
have fun playing for a yao-less houston next year.
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just read that
looks like its a done deal almost. means he signed the deal ariza wouldnt. also talked as if odom was a sure bet coming back….i wonder if he knows something we dont.
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by silverstreak3k on Jul 2, 2009 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions
No one else is reporting it though. I’m not sure how credible Ron Artest is. He loves to make things up just to make them up.
yea
you never really know with crazy pills….well have to wait a bit longer to find out from la HQ
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by silverstreak3k on Jul 2, 2009 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions
What if Rons just blowing smoke? You cant forget all those things he wrote on his Twitter. He might be making fools out of CBS Sports……
or maybe not.
Can we write somewhere in the contract that Artest can only take so-so number amount of shots, and all he should do is play defense. He can shoot teams out of games….
He will play nice
Kobe is his idol
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
Plus.
Phil can keep him under check. Dennis Rodman was eons more crazy than Artest and look how the Bulls turned him into a key cog of the team. Kobe will probably get Artest playing down low in the block more often.
How would Artest fit in the triangle?
Where’s Ariza’s agent? I wonder how he’s feeling. He hasn’t stopped talking since July 1. I want to heat what he has to say. Is re-signing Ariza out of the question? How do we know this whole thing is legit?
Artest shoots the 3 better when he’s not rushing it so if he’s spotting up and taking a pass from Kobe it’ll be a good shot. He’ll probably be asked to take his game to the post where he’s pretty damn good.
I would think resigning Ariza is out of the question if these talks about Artest are true. Not enough PT and $$ for the both of them. Although I wouldn’t mind shipping The Man formerly known as The Machine out to make room for TA.
But Artest gets very “shot-happy” from time to time. I’m not sure how well he would do in the triangle….
Ariza can run on the fast break, go after the loose balls. I’m not sure about Artest, he’s kind of slow……
artest's production outweighs ariza
before the finals, i dont think anyone saw ariza as a prime target outside of LA, and we all learned what happens when you sign someone long term at a high price for one post season (sasha)
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by silverstreak3k on Jul 2, 2009 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions
bad move
no artest, no yao, mcgrady out for the first half…..no sg…..no true center…..that team is almost in shambles.
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by silverstreak3k on Jul 2, 2009 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions
ESPN The Magazine’s Chris Broussard reports that Artest and the Lakers have reached a verbal agreement on what is believed to be a three-year contract worth an estimated $18 million. Wednesday is the first day free agents are permitted to sign new deals.
That’s a lot. I would rather pay Ariza a 3 year 18 million deal
So how much will Odom get now?
I hope Buss is willing to outbid all offers, Odom is key.
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What can Cleveland offer Ariza? Do they have MLE?
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
thats not much
400k over the mle? not bad, not for a player like artest, yes it sucks ariza didnt sign, but i think we all need to get over that.
if not for the ariza drama, everyone would think this would be a great deal (in terms of money, chemistry and crazyness is its own issue)
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by silverstreak3k on Jul 2, 2009 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions
But how do we pay him more than the MLE, when that’s all we have since we’re over the salary cap. Is that allowed?
might be just 5.6 this year
with more being paid in year 2 and 3
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by silverstreak3k on Jul 2, 2009 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions
cheer up
this is a good sigining. artest is a beast on D, he shoots well, and can gives the Lakers some more of that toughness. blame this on ariza and his agent, 5.6 for him was fair, seeing as artest signed for roughly the same….im not sad about it, but yea i do like ariza, hes a fan fav. but maybe he will come back for less money? is that wishful thinking?
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by silverstreak3k on Jul 2, 2009 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Artest can’t play well in transition, has not shown he can play in a set offensive system, and likes to get very trigger happy. Im not sure.
Yeah but he has never played with an alpha dog like Kobe. This is Kobe Bryant, the man whose basketball IQ and effort will probably get Artest to be in the right places at the right time.
I know but that doesn’t change teh fact that he doesn’t play well in transition (which our bench and some of the guys on our team thrive off of) and his defense has deteriorated over time. His attention span is flighty too.
bench?
we had a bench last year?
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by silverstreak3k on Jul 2, 2009 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe Mitch is channeling his inner David Lee and bribing Artest to speak to the media, so Ariza and his agent will panic and accept the 5.6 million the Lakers initially offered.
Is that too much wishful thinking? (;
yea
if i was ariza id be pissed
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by silverstreak3k on Jul 2, 2009 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd fire the agent for screwing up a good situation just so he could get
a bigger payday. What are Ariza’s options now? Toronto? Portland? Cleveland? Houston?
houston is his best bet i think
maybe portland, but if i remember right, hes portlands second option after hedo. who wants to play in toronto? bosh is gone next year
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by silverstreak3k on Jul 2, 2009 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions
ESPN just breaking News Artest going to Lakers
all I can say is DAMN and NO I still want Ariza
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CBS, ESPN, LA Times, and now SI are all reporting
that Artest is going to sign with the Lakers. The sources in all the stories are still not as concrete as I would like it to be though.
Exactly. We need a more concrete source. Who knows? This could be Artest just playing one of the biggest jokes this offseason.
He can play the 2a option
with Gasol. I don’t think Bynum’s offensive game merits him as a high option yet. I wonder if Odom will be okay coming off the bench again.
This is a sad day for me I don't really want Artest, Ariza is a better fit and isn't he close to Kobe
I wonder what Kobe is thinking they just let go a friend for a foe.
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lakers didnt let ariza go
ariza didnt want the deal and left. i bet artest took the deal ariza turned down.
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by silverstreak3k on Jul 2, 2009 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Ariza's agent didn't want the deal and gave that unreasonable logic
as a reason: “Why won’t you pay $9m for a guy everyone will pay $5m for?”.
Seriously David Lee?
agents work for the player
not the other way, if ariza wanted to stay, he would have. bad advice from the agent helping ariza astray? of course, but in the end these athletes need to learn the agent works for them, not the other way around
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by silverstreak3k on Jul 2, 2009 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Where are all the people...
…who were BEGGING for LA to pick up Artest after losing to Boston last year?
His defense is still amazing and I feel he is a much more comfortable shooter than Ariza is.
I was one of those people then but not now Ariza is the man, I just thinks he fits the triangle system better
I’ll get over it once Lakers re-sign Odom and Shannon and win another championship.
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