Ariza On The Way Out?
According to ESPN.com, the Lakers are unwilling to pay Ariza more than the $5.6 million mid-level exception, a number that falls well short of the $8-9 million he's looking for. I think it's clear that LA has prioritized Odom over Ariza.
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The press enterprise article makes it out even worse.........
It seems Trevor is leaving us. I think his (or his agent’s) attitude is a little naive. “Why won’t you pay 9 million for a guy everyone else will pay 5.6 million for”? If he takes a MLE from elsewhere instead of a MLE from the Lakers then screw him, he doesn’t deserve the Lakers.
On another note the article (or the one from PE) says that Cleveland is pursuing him hard. If Cleveland is pursuing him hard and gets him, and Ron Artest wants to play for Cleveland or LA???? Well you get the point. It think RonRon’s window in Cleveland is closing fast. I love Ariza, but I think Odom and Artest > Odom and Ariza.
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by pslakerfan on Jul 1, 2009 9:09 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd rather have Ariza than Artest
Age being the biggest reason, but I’d rather have Artest at $5.6 mil as opposed to Ariza at $8-9 million.
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Jul 1, 2009 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wattup John
Yes, if Ariza wants to sign for the same amount on a different team; go on ahead. If Ron-ron and Odom are on the same team (Lakers) I’d love to see Tes-tes back down Ariza.
by Charles Y on Jul 1, 2009 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But Cleveland can only sign him with the MLE too so….
by intuitive on Jul 1, 2009 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Must be agent fodder
Trevor will discover that his developmental parents are here with the Lakers. I always thought that 2 of 3 are more realistic. Shannon Brown and either LO or TA. Though LBJ is not a bad replacement, the Mamba always commands the double team that freed TA up. Maybe he will watch like Vlad or Ronnie from the TV set when we challenge for the Gold Ball.
People from Walter Herman, Matt Barnes are good cheaper options.
If the Nate Robinson for Sasha pushes through. And maybe a Rudy F for Jordan Farmar trade can materialize?
Sign SB and LO and maybe a Matt Barnes and you have:
Robinson-Bryant-Barnes-Gasol-Bynum (1st unit)
Fisher-Brown-Fernandez-Walton-Odom (2nd unit)
Mbenga-Powell
Though I really hope we sign TA-LO-SB.
by Charles Y on Jul 1, 2009 9:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
His agent is trying to scare Mitch big time. Thats how I see it at least.
by intuitive on Jul 1, 2009 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We need Ariza ...
and I think Trevor should be handled more carefully by the front office. He just wants alittle more than mid level, Mitch needs to tread carefully here. Ariza (to me) was the difference this year.
by Pedro's curse on Jul 1, 2009 9:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Trade Rumor
Anybody hear about the Sasha V for Nate Robinson trade? If so please provide a link.
by Charles Y on Jul 1, 2009 9:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This is agent generated PR
I really liked this part:
Cleveland is making a hard push for Ariza, and the Cavaliers’ coaching staff was speaking with him on Wednesday. While Cleveland can only offer the mid-level as well, Ariza’s disappointment with the Lakers’ stance has moved other suitors ahead of his current team.
The Rockets, Clippers, Raptors and Blazers are also showing interest in Ariza. Portland and Toronto could each offer more than the mid-level exception.
If the Lakers refuse to increase their offer, it’s a clear indication that they are choosing their other big free agent forward, Lamar Odom, over the younger Ariza.
Could this be any more obvious than as agent generated hype?
by tandur on Jul 1, 2009 9:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
d'oj
the whole bit, correctly this time:
Cleveland is making a hard push for Ariza, and the Cavaliers’ coaching staff was speaking with him on Wednesday. While Cleveland can only offer the mid-level as well, Ariza’s disappointment with the Lakers’ stance has moved other suitors ahead of his current team.
The Rockets, Clippers, Raptors and Blazers are also showing interest in Ariza. Portland and Toronto could each offer more than the mid-level exception.
If the Lakers refuse to increase their offer, it’s a clear indication that they are choosing their other big free agent forward, Lamar Odom, over the younger Ariza.
by tandur on Jul 1, 2009 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I see ...
the propaganda here. Just hope Ariza see’s the light. Call’s his agent: " Man, I don’t want to play this game, call up Mitch"
by Pedro's curse on Jul 1, 2009 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Broussard and ESPN are even more ridiculou than Lee
Does he really think Ariza would chose cleveland over the lakers?
by Nostance on Jul 1, 2009 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Especially when we’re offering the same amount of money? lol
You have to give his agent credit. He’s trying to get Ariza signed to a big time contract. After all, Ariza’s agent is Bynum’s agent too
by intuitive on Jul 1, 2009 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Broussard
is just hoping they can sign a player like Ariza away from the Lakers. Broussard is LeBron’s biggest fan, and the notion that Ariza would take a deal with the Cavs for the same amount of money being offered by the Lakers is just laughable.
by BruinFanBaby on Jul 1, 2009 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i didnt like some comments that i read from ariza’s agent. he sounded like a greedy pig.
by chaucer on Jul 1, 2009 10:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He is.
“I had a long conversation with Mitch, and I don’t think it’s going anywhere,” agent David Lee said. “I think I’m being optimistic when I say it’s not going anywhere.”
He is way over valuing Ariza. and what’s “I think I’m being optimistic when I say it’s not going anywhere.” supposed to mean. Meh
http://blogs.pe.com/prosports/2009/07/ariza-contract-talks-not-going.html
by intuitive on Jul 1, 2009 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I think what he might mean is that the two sides are still deadlocked,
which is better than the negotiations completely falling apart. Just bluster, that’s all.
by Darkemans on Jul 2, 2009 4:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
cleveland? he’ll be coming off the bench in cleveland…he’ll be backing up james
by chaucer on Jul 1, 2009 10:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Seriously.
Uhm, does that genius David Lee realize who the Cavs currently have at small forward? The minute I heard these rumors I thought it was just agent talk, and the more I read the more I believe that. I think Ariza wants to stay with the Lakers, and there’s no way in hell he would go to Cleveland for the MLE if the Lakers are offering the same thing.
by BruinFanBaby on Jul 1, 2009 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is all despite the fact that Cleveland needs a PF more than a SF,
since Varejao is looking for a payday. Ha.
by Darkemans on Jul 2, 2009 5:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is what Mitch should be doing, good for him.
The unwillingness of the Lakers to yield to Trevor Ariza’s contract demands reflects their belief that deep-pocketed suitors for Ariza won’t materialize in this economic slump.
With Detroit having reportedly agreed to terms with Ben Gordon and Charlie Villanueva, Memphis trading for Clippers forward Zach Randolph and Portland and Toronto reportedly pursuing Hedo Turkoglu, the number of teams with salary cap space to offer Ariza a big payday is dwindling fast.
A Lakers source speaking on the condition of anonymity said the offers Ariza has received from other teams are for the $5.6 million mid-level exception.
The Lakers are willing to match the other offers on the table for Ariza, according to the source, but they’re not going to overpay simply because it’s their own player.
by intuitive on Jul 1, 2009 10:19 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I understand the Lakers Position but you gotta show the man some LOVE I would feel like Ariza also
so I understand both sides and it’s business but don’t you want to win? every year, whats people’s issue??
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by BrittneyM on Jul 1, 2009 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
like all other types of shopping, it's trying to get the most bang for your buck.
i’m pretty sure Mitch and every other laker wants to sign him, but 8-9 mil is pretty much a rip off. even without this economy, i highly doubt any other team would be willing to pay that much.
by Nostance on Jul 1, 2009 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So… He feels he’s not getting paid enough by the Lakers with the MLE, and so therefore will go sign to another team that’s offering him the same amount of money. That makes no sense.
by intuitive on Jul 1, 2009 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with this.
I seriously doubt teams are going to be able offer Ariza $8-9 million a year. And if they are, then fine. The day after the Lakers won the championship, ESPN analyst Tim Legler said that he would keep Odom if he had to choose, because guys like Ariza are easier to find, while Lamar is a special talent. I completely agree. Trevor is young and still has a long ways to develop before he becomes a player that should be making $9 million a year.
by BruinFanBaby on Jul 1, 2009 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes I just watch the video and I almost fainted
I just was so happy and unfazed by free agency and thought Lakers would be stupid not to sign Lamar and Trevor so now am alittle SHOCKED by the news and I hope…really HOPE it’s not true and Kobe gets the news and make the Lakers sign Trevor.
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by BrittneyM on Jul 1, 2009 10:22 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Don’t worry Ariza’s agent is just trying to sweeten the deal, meh
by intuitive on Jul 1, 2009 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
so offer him 6.5 million for 3 years.
by chaucer on Jul 1, 2009 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why offer him more, when you could get him at a cheaper price.
by intuitive on Jul 1, 2009 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
so his ass won’t cry about having hurt feelings.
by chaucer on Jul 1, 2009 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
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by BrittneyM on Jul 1, 2009 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t care if his feeling are hurt.
by intuitive on Jul 1, 2009 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
he’s stupid if he goes to cleveland for the same amount of money. he’ll be a traitor. he’s hurt? he was a little bird with broken wings. the lakers took him under their care, fed him, made him better, took him on the highest possible flight, offer him a home, and he is offended? what does he want, keys to the city? now that he’s all better, he wants to fly away…to cleveland of all places?
by chaucer on Jul 1, 2009 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i wouldn't criticize ariza
it seems like it’s his agent making the big fuss. afterall bigger client pay = more pay for himself
by Nostance on Jul 1, 2009 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
on LA Times blog
AK,
i get your point. but remember ALL those comments about trevor being immature? this sounds like that trevor.
i do believe he will go. and to tell you the truth i don’t care. just because his agent makes me dislike trevor.
i liked trevor. but his agent is so annoying that the lakers might not sign trevor just because the agent has horrible tactics.
an agent is an agent, but this guy is just pathetic.
Posted by: lakofan | July 01, 2009 at 10:24 PM
by chaucer on Jul 1, 2009 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i don’t like his agent either. a player has the right to shut his agent’s mouth. especially if it will hurt his chances of remaining with a club. i also think the lakers are prioritizing odom.
by chaucer on Jul 1, 2009 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
His agent is soo annoying. All he does is talk talk talk, and whine whine whine. He always pulls the Lakers undervalue Ariza/Bynum card. gag
by intuitive on Jul 1, 2009 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
K brothers have it covered
http://lakersblog.latimes.com/lakersblog/2009/07/trevor-arizas-negotiations-a-quick-thought.html
Look, don’t get me wrong. There’s certainly a chance that Team Ariza and Team Buss are planning a trip to Impasse County. But there’s also a chance- my gut says a better one- that we’re getting another taste of how Lee operates: Lots of public complaints and barely veiled threats. Little in the way of clients leaving their most recent employers. Maybe I’m under-thinking this, but most of these scenarios floated around strike me as either unrealistic, undesirable or both.
by intuitive on Jul 1, 2009 10:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
All of this is just talk.
In this economy, I just don’t buy all of this talk.
by BruinFanBaby on Jul 1, 2009 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1 +2 … etc are like an “I agree” sort of saying.
+1 would be like an I agree and I guess the bigger the number the more you agree.
by intuitive on Jul 1, 2009 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Go smack some sense into him Kobe
Kuwabara Kuwabara
by J. B. Maddox on Jul 1, 2009 10:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He needs to smack
some sense into his agent.
by BruinFanBaby on Jul 1, 2009 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Probably right.
Also, will God be mad because I called Him by His first name?
Kuwabara Kuwabara
by J. B. Maddox on Jul 1, 2009 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know that
Ariza is a shy guy and really doesn’t talk much, so it’s hard to get a good read on him, but he doesn’t seem like the type of guy that would play hardball like this. Once again, I think this is all about his agent.
by BruinFanBaby on Jul 1, 2009 10:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
i read one article that quoted his agent, and right away i almost hated the guy. i don’t like him one bit. he is annoying and he is an asshole.
by chaucer on Jul 1, 2009 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lakers shouldnt have to deal with classless bastards like that. they may send out a message to agents like that and players who want to hire agents like that, by refusing to negotiate with him.
by chaucer on Jul 1, 2009 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
but...
we wouldn’t be the lakers without some drama lol
by chaucer on Jul 1, 2009 10:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Lamar loves to say: “It’s Hollywood baby”
by intuitive on Jul 1, 2009 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
oooookkkkkkkk
ok im a little anxious now. i shall try to go to sleep and when i wake up i want to the following to have happened:
1. signed and traded trevor ariza and sasha to minnesotta for rights to ricky rubio
2. resigned lamar odom
3. signed ron artest
by chaucer on Jul 1, 2009 11:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Ariza and Sasha for Rubio?
lol, no. Kahn isn’t Isiah. Hell, I’m not sure Isiah would be stupid enough to do that.
by Ben R on Jul 1, 2009 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i would not mind seeing ariza go
don’t get me wrong. i love the guy and really wish he stays. but if the lakers had to chose between ariza and odom, i would rather keep odom. what clear advantage does ariza have over odom? non except age. but when taking age into account, remember that this is a team that wants to win NOW, not in 2-4 years, so age is not an issue. that’s why the cavs got shaq (37), the magic got carter (32) and the celtics want sheed (35). those guys are proven players who can help them win NOW and not in the future. odom is a proven player that can help us win NOW. if ariza leaves, a player like grant hill will be more than willing to sign for the minimum
by Adamas on Jul 2, 2009 4:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Lebron who's your daddy?
Restore the California Angels Moniker!
by CA HR on Jul 2, 2009 11:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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