The Credits 6/28/09
by wondahbap on Jun 28, 2009 7:57 AM PDT
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Here are the Sunday Links:
- RealGM: Two Plus The Foul - The Official Kobe Bryant Free Agency Primer
There's been a lot of conflicting and confusing information floating around about Kobe Bryant's ability to become a free agent this summer. In an attempt to clear it all up, I'll wade through the situation in question and answer format.
(The link above is by Larry Coon. The same Larry Coon who offers the Salary Cap FAQ. Which every NBA fan should familiarize themselves with. It's well nuff impo'tant. You betta learn 'bout dem tings!) - Kobe Bryant's Early Termination Option: The $135 Million Elephant in the Room | Lakers Blog | Los Angeles Times
- For real drama, look to the East - Los Angeles Times
They don't make seasons like this one, or, at least, the NBA hadn't for a while. - Magic to Pursue Rasheed Wallace, Brandon Bass -- NBA FanHouse
- NBA's top 20 free agents - Sports - OCRegister.com
- Brandon Jennings Acting Up Again? -- NBA FanHouse
Apparently talking with rapper Joe Budden on a blog cam following the draft, a recorded Jennings ripped the Knicks for passing him up in the draft, predicted the Bucks would not re-sign Ramon Sessions, instead spending their money on Charlie Villanueva, and finally that Luke Ridnour would eventually be his backup. - Social Media Biting Back at Brandon Jennings? - SportingNews.com - The Baseline
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Kidd would fit Knicks like a glove - SportingNews.com - The Baseline
The Knicks have made it known they're interested in talking to the Timberwolves about Ricky Rubio (even if it turns out to be nothing more than a casual phone conversation between two friends). But there's another point guard they have their eye on, according to The New York Times: veteran Jason Kidd. - Who Does Ricky Rubio Think He Is? -- FanHouse
(Bobblehead alert! - He's a player with leverage. He has options, so why should he settle for a poorly run organization? The NBA wants him to play just as much as he wants to play in the NBA. Given the publicity he receives and the international media attention and fans he'll bring, added to his youth and position, he can be a great asset to the NBA if he lives up to the hype. Minnesota can't call his bluff. That who he thinks he is.) -
O'Neal Is Set To Be Best Since Jordan
All of which begs the question: More than 10 years after Michael Jordan announced his second retirement, who is the most accomplished player of the post-Jordan generation: Shaq, Kobe or Duncan?
(Revisionist history will show one day, that while O'Neal was the dominant player given his physical advantages, Kobe didn't "ride" Shaq for three rings. They rode together. If it were so simple, then why didn't the ring come when the Lakers has Shaq, Kobe, Eddie, Nick Van Exel, Elden Campbell, Robert Horry, and Rick Fox in '97-'98? Or the next year when they added Glen Rice? The difference was Kobe matured into the great player he is now. Shaq was already deemed a top 50 Player! Yet, it was Kobe's brilliance that finally propelled the Lakers into greatness. It was never mostly because of Shaq. It was the two of them together.)Ohio.com - Team in a hurry
The Cleveland Cavaliers aren't in the mood for patience. The players, coaches and executives still feel the pain of losing in the NBA Eastern Conference Finals, visions of Dwight Howard pounding the ball through the hoop throbbing in their heads. The Cavaliers want a championship now, and thus they have delivered an answer for Howard, and the Los Angeles Lakers and the Boston Celtics, for that matter. They've acquired skill, power and presence in the post, in the form of Shaquille O'Neal. O'Neal ranks among the very best ever to play his position. He has four championships. Indeed, many have noted the pattern: Match O'Neal with a splendid swingman, Kobe Bryant and Dwayne Wade, and a title follows. We hardly need to mention the all-world swingman already at work in these parts. Will the pattern hold?
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I'm not an oncologist, and I don't play one on TV, but that douche is a cancer...
Brandon Jennings Acting Up Again? — NBA FanHouse
Apparently talking with rapper Joe Budden on a blog cam following the draft, a recorded Jennings ripped the Knicks for passing him up in the draft, predicted the Bucks would not re-sign Ramon Sessions, instead spending their money on Charlie Villanueva, and finally that Luke Ridnour would eventually be his backup.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Compton's finest...
According to SportingNews.com, this is what he told Budden: "No, I was at the hotel. This is what happened right. My agent is like ‘Well, we ain’t hear nothing. We ain’t have no guarantee.’ So we makin’ phone calls and (expletive) and (expletive) is saying like ‘The workouts is great and everything and he’s the best point guard but we don’t know yet, we just don’t know.’ "
He continued: “No, (expletive), I came out there and made my appearance (expletive) and I had the best appearance out of all them (expletives). And I was the best dressed, they said, by the way. I was the best dressed.”
And finally, when asked about the Knicks passing on him to take Arizona’s Jordan Hill, he said, “(Expletive) the Knicks, them (expletives) skipped out on me. (Expletive) the Knicks, them (expletives) is always going to be weak.”
Congratulations to the Milwaukee Bucks. This guy’s gonna be a real fan fave in Wisconsin…
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
I think the Bucks should go after A.I. and Ron Artest and complete the trifecta...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
"How the hell can I make my teammates better by practice?"
“”http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGDBR2L5kzI" target="new">I supposed to be the franchise player and we in here talkin’ ’bout practice!"
............not a game, not a game, not a game...................................... PRACTICE!!!
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Cracks me up everytime.
What’s really funny is when the media starts laughing and AI thinks they are laughing with him.
He's obviously has a lot to learn about professionalism...depending on the situation.
I think stuff like this is said all of the time, _but_he has to know that things like this could get out.
Did he know he was on a blogcast? If so, then it was horrendous judgment on his part. Especially when conversing with a struggling rapper, whom has something to gain from the publicity. If he didn’t know then I can’t fault him for having a conversation between friends, regardless of his views.
Actually, it was the combination of Shaq AND Kobe...
The difference was Kobe matured into the great player he became. Shaq was already deemed a top 50 Player! Yet, it was Kobe’s brilliance that allowed the Lakers to go three straight. It was never just because of Shaq.
I’ve always been a pretty big Shaq guy, myself… In his prime he was the best Center of his generation…
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
That was my point.
I didn’t mean for it to be Kobe-centric. But the thought that Kobe rode Shaq is nonsense.
They went three straight because of how great both of them were/are.
magic pursuing rasheed??
Wallace, 34, is expected to be pursued by both the Magic and the Boston Celtics, who are competing with the Cleveland Cavaliers for the top spot in the Eastern Conference. Wallace has played 14 seasons in the NBA, earning a reputation as an often enigmatic, but unselfish player with championship experience.
wow. i think that he might put either team he joins over the top…
I just saw somewhere that Hashweed doesn't wanna do Boston...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
if the magic sign rasheed wallace
one has to ask the question, will they be the most talented team in the NBA, even if the lakers resign trevor and lamar?
Where are they gonna play Lewis if they sign Hashweed? Answer: Turkoglu's spot...
Then where does Hedo play? Answer: somewhere else…
Hedo > Rasheed.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
No I would still place them second behind the Lakers
There are basic Fundamentals that are needed to move forward in this game. Always keep your guard up at all times to avoid being caught in a trap. Overcome the fouls that will be commited against you REBOUND AND PRESS ON. ADJUST to the LimeLight: ALL-STAR PLAYERS ARE ALWAYS THE CENTER OF ATTENTION. Know what your role is and play your position. Find a game plan and execute it. REMEMBER YOU ONLY GET OUT OF THE GAME WHAT YOU PUT INTO IT.
Kobe, Pau, Lamar, Trevor, and healthy Bynum
are better than any 4 players the Magic would have.
Kobe and Pau are way better than any top 2 guys the Magic could have ad that’s a hell f a difference.
well if we match up the starting line ups, the magic’s is probably better:
pg’s fisher vs nelson = advantage, nelson
sg bryant vs carter = advantage, bryant
sf ariza vs lewis = lewis
pf gasol vs wallace = gasol
c bynum vs howard = howard
they would win the starting five, 3 to 2.
Flawed logic............
Gasol and Kobe’s lead over their counterparts offsets the total 3 vs 2 thing. Think 2009 Finals.
Well, sir, you are a cowardly son of a bitch! You just shot an unarmed man!.......Well, he should have armed himself if he's going to decorate his saloon with my friend. – Will Munny
Really?
That’s too simple to think of it like that.
I don’t think Lewis is better than Ariza. Sure, he gets paid a tom (too much), but he doesn’t drive, nor does he play defense. So really, all he does definitively better is shoot. How’d that work out in the Finals? I don’t see that as an advantage for them.
Kobe and Pau are HUGE advantages. Rasheed isn’t the Portland Rasheed, and as long as we can defend Dwight like we did in the Finals his advantage over Drew isn’t enough. Especially if Drew can return to his pre-injury form.
You’re going by names.
Hashweed has become a 6'10" jumpshooter... Sort of like Turkoglu if Turkoglu never drove to the hole and was a gunner instead of a team player...
Rumors are that Rasheed is going to Orlando or the Spurs. I’m betting on the latter, but he doesn’t care as long as somebody “CTC” for him.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
agreed
There are basic Fundamentals that are needed to move forward in this game. Always keep your guard up at all times to avoid being caught in a trap. Overcome the fouls that will be commited against you REBOUND AND PRESS ON. ADJUST to the LimeLight: ALL-STAR PLAYERS ARE ALWAYS THE CENTER OF ATTENTION. Know what your role is and play your position. Find a game plan and execute it. REMEMBER YOU ONLY GET OUT OF THE GAME WHAT YOU PUT INTO IT.
I hate ricky rubio's attitude
I don’t care if he’s got leverage. You can’t expect to come to the NBA and play in a city that suits your mother’s liking. It’s selfish. The NBA is a business and all players should treat it as such. I don’t care if your an international phenom, you have to play by the rules. Maybe once he’s played a little bit in the NBA and his overrated cuteface has proven something he can start demanding to be traded away from lotto teams but until then shut the hell up.
I’m tired of seeing his face everywhere.
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
Don't really blame him that much
He’s essentially playing in the NBA this year for nothing because he’s paying for his buyout from his Spanish team out of his own pocket (roughly equal to his first year salary here), and Minnesota isn’t exactly an exciting place to play. There’s already a history of players (Tiago Splitter, Fran Vasquez) using the threat of playing abroad as a reason not to come over, and Rubio is free to use it as he pleases. And the “NBA is a business” stuff is nonsense. Players whining about salaries, touches, trades, and whatnot is no better than this.
Minnesota isn't that bad
Kevin Garnett flourished there. Cleveland was a cesspool before Lebron went there. I’d rather see Rubio be excited to be the man and show of his skills. No matter where he lands he will be highly scrutinized.
I don’t care if other players have done the same thing, that doesn’t mean I have to like it or even be okay with it. The draft is pointless if lotto talent players can weasel their way out of playing for lottery teams.
And you are correct – I also don’t like it when players whine about salaries and touches…but I think it’s more okay when a player like Kobe Bryant who is a winner and has proven himself in the NBA asks for a trade than some 19 yr old soon to be rookie.
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
I also judge him based on his whole draft experience
The way he hasn’t shown up for hardly any team workouts…the comments he’s made about minnesota drafting other PGs (even after he doesn’t show up for workouts)…just sounds like an overconfident jackass.
He’s got a chance to prove me wrong of course if he brings it. Can’t argue with results.
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
Would you work out for a team you didn't want to draft you?
Especially when you don’t have to play in the the NBA right now? And it would cost you money to play in the NBA?
I can see the point
but…
1) if he’ so worried about his contract and not being able to play in the NBA, he shouldn’t have declared this season. He’s obviously willing to pay to play in the NBA right now.
and 2) Hell yeah I’d work out for any team. Playing in the NBA is a god damn privilege I don’t care how many no look passes you throw in the Spanish league.
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
You would work out for any team because you're not a top flight prospect.
Ricky Rubio is. One that can play in any league he wants to. So, if he can play where he chooses then he should make sure that it’s a situation to his liking. This is really no different than a top prospect who plays baseball and football like John Elway, who was able to force a trade.
You can’t view the situation through your perspective. It’s a privilege, but it’s also a job. the NBA might be the best job for Rubio, but it isn’t the only one. He’s 18. He can afford to wait if he really felt the need to.
Are you even aware of the draft process?
High draft prospects turn down workouts all the time. It’s their freaking decision whether they want to work out or not. It’s not like Rubio was the only one doing this — Thabeet, Curry, Harden, and Evans were turning down workout offers by the dozen. It’s up to them how they view their draft stock.
Umm. It is playing by the rules.
The NBA is a business and all players should treat it as such.
That is exactly what he is doing. He has options. It’s like going to college and coming out with a choice of jobs. He doesn’t have to play in the NBA right now, so why settle for a team you don’t to play for.
instead of the draft then
maybe we should have a 1 on 1 tourney after the season to see the order in which players get to pick their teams.
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
well, obviously that couldn't happen
It’d be just like the regular draft process, 30 teams, 2 rounds…teams up once per round.
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
And it's still pointless
Because how do you do players who play different positions? Players who have large upside but not all the skills now? Catch and shoot guys who aren’t good one-on-one? It’s an alarmingly short-sighted process.
are you talking about my draft or the real draft?
Because I was just trying to make the point that if good players can lobby for what team they want to play for so well, what is the point of having teams pick the players.
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
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by Gils_Keloids on Jun 29, 2009 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Yao could be done for good.
For now, the Rockets have privately told league peers it could be a full season before Yao might be able to return to basketball. Multiple league executives, officials close to Yao and two doctors with knowledge of the diagnoses are describing a troubling re-fracture of his navicular bone. Three pins were inserted a year ago, but the foot cracked in the playoffs and isn’t healing.
"It sounds like he’s missing most of next season, if not the entire 82 games," one league executive who has had recent discussions with the Houston front office told Yahoo! Sports. "That’s all that [the Rockets] will concede quietly, but they know it’s probably much worse."
Not good news at all
If his career is really over it makes them severely undersized and they have no center… Yao is a HUGE reason they beat Portland in the playoffs.
Oh man that sentence sounds horrible. I should probably say “Yao was a huge factor for the Rockets in beating Portland, in the playoffs” I’m sure Timbo would agree as well.
Against Portland, maybe.
The rest of the team plays more freely when Yao isn’t on the floor. His injury helped them. I think we would’ve beat the Rockets in 5 if Yao didn’t get hurt.
I’ve always thought they were better without Yao. It sucks that he might be out longer. I never want to see people injured, but I think Yao is overrated.
So true they are a better team when Yao sits
There are basic Fundamentals that are needed to move forward in this game. Always keep your guard up at all times to avoid being caught in a trap. Overcome the fouls that will be commited against you REBOUND AND PRESS ON. ADJUST to the LimeLight: ALL-STAR PLAYERS ARE ALWAYS THE CENTER OF ATTENTION. Know what your role is and play your position. Find a game plan and execute it. REMEMBER YOU ONLY GET OUT OF THE GAME WHAT YOU PUT INTO IT.
Kobe talks about Michael Jackson
http://www.time.com/time/specials/michael-jackson/article/0,31682,1907409_1907413,00.html
Bosh fits in with Lebron more than Shaq
I’m getting impatient waiting for the offseason to end. I’ve been feeling a hole in my heart ever since the season ended.
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Any reason to watch Laker Summer League games?
I might be in Vegas when the Summer League games are going on. Has anybody here ever been? If so, what did you think of it?
Obviously our roster is (hopefully) full so there won’t be anybody making the team.
Some guys are on the summer league that went undrafted. Might want to go to a game, Adam Morrison is going to play in summer league too. If you go, you should tell us how it went and how all the guys looked. I’ve never been to a summer league game though.
Just saw the Lakers Summer League roster. Don’t think it is worth it this year since we don’t have interesting draft picks or even many roster spots open. (Please come back Trevor, LO & Shannon!)
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