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The Credits 6/23/09

"Not with that trade."

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"Not with that trade."

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  • Phil Jackson mulls coaching Los Angeles Lakers mostly at home - ESPN
    Los Angeles Lakers coach Phil Jackson said in a radio interview Tuesday that he will make a firm decision about returning to the bench next season by "early July" and that he will also explore the possibility of letting Lakers assistant coach Kurt Rambis coach more road games in Jackson's place. Jackson Jackson In the interview with ESPN Radio in Los Angeles (710 AM), Jackson insisted that health concerns would be the only reason that prevented him from completing the final season of his current coaching contract. He also revealed that the concept of Rambis coaching the team regularly on the road -- theoretically sparing Jackson, who turns 64 in September, from the rigors of travel -- has already been discussed internally.
  • Lakers' draft day choices - OCRegister.com
    With 3 picks in NBA draft, champions face many possibilities.
  • Magic Johnson ranks as best No. 1 pick in history of NBA draft - Ian Thomsen - SI.com
    Claiming to know the greatest draft pick of all time in each of the top 30 slots is a good way to start an argument. In this case, I leaned toward draft picks who helped create team success. While going through the lists year by year, I was reminded just how difficult it is to find impact players -- even when dealing with a top-three pick. To go through the draft lists over the last six decades is to realize that the likes of Bill Russell and Michael Jordan are rarely discovered.
  • A look back at Lakers' first-round draft picks - OCRegister.com
    Who were the booms - and who were the busts?
  • Lakers on Twitter at Lakers.com BasketBlog
    Here’s our current Lakers Twitter Roster

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If Phil were to decide to only coach home games, does that mean he gets paid half of what he’s expected to be paid?

by intuitive on Jun 23, 2009 8:39 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

No way Phil is going to do this.

Then he can’t take all of the credit for winning back to back (to back) four times. With 4 separate sets of players.

by wondahbap on Jun 23, 2009 9:00 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

90% of coaching is done before the game even starts

Or so they say.

How about virtual coaching during the game, where he just controls substitutions via twitter or a cell phone! They could just play a monitor in the middle of the huddle at timeouts, and video conference PJ in his PJs.

"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson

by Gils_Keloids on Jun 23, 2009 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What about a cardboard Phil cutout to sit on the bench during road games?

Considering the amount Phil moves during games, the players may not catch on for a while.

by Snoopy2006 on Jun 23, 2009 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

True.

According to Alonzo, it’s Kobe who is really the coach anyway.

by wondahbap on Jun 24, 2009 1:03 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

just say no.

to Kurt Rambis as head coach.

I’m sorry, but didn’t the Lakers try the Kurt Rambis experiment after Del Harris?

Granted, that was nearly 12 to 13 years ago, but I don’t recall that working out well.
And I certainly remember that Portland game where we probably would have had a better chance at winning if Phil had been the coach.

Not to knock on Rambis, because I’m sure he’s a great guy and would be a terrific coach elsewhere, I just don’t think he’d be a good coach for the triangle or for this currently constructed Lakers team.

Control yourself
Take only what you need from it

by PeanutButterSpread on Jun 24, 2009 9:58 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I vote for Brian Shaw

"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson

by Gils_Keloids on Jun 24, 2009 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Count me in as well.

I’d vote for Brian Shaw too.
He did a great job scouting Orlando.

Control yourself
Take only what you need from it

by PeanutButterSpread on Jun 24, 2009 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not high on him either.

But I guess we’ll have to live with it.

I didn’t care much for the SSZ defense. I thought it made us too vulnerable at times. But I’ll give him the benefit of doubt, because sometimes the players lacked energy, and the defense looked worse. We’ll see.

by wondahbap on Jun 24, 2009 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I may be too critical

I just didn’t like Rambis as the coach then, don’t think I’ll like him as the coach later.

He’s a great assistant coach though and I do like that he’s trying to get the team to execute some form of team defense, but I don’t think he’ll do well as the head honcho coach that can get players to listen to him.

Still, I can see why he’s an “attractive” candidate for the head coach position only because of his ties to the Lakers organization, the buss family and of course being an assistant to phil …

I just think whoever follows Phil will have a difficult time measuring up.

Control yourself
Take only what you need from it

by PeanutButterSpread on Jun 24, 2009 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe.

I think who ever follows Phil will automatically be made to look like they fall under Kobe’s thumb, so they’ll be viewed through skewed lenses.

by wondahbap on Jun 24, 2009 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

people may disagree, but i think jeff van gundy would do well with this current roster. he’s better than rambis. i vote no for shaw. why? because he has no experience as a head coach.

by chaucer on Jun 24, 2009 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

based on what is available right now, and assuming coach K will not jump to the pros, i think jeff van gundy is the best candidate. he’s experienced.

by chaucer on Jun 24, 2009 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

ive never been a big fan of doug collins the coach (the broadcaster, yes) but i’m curious as to how he’d do with this roster. this team cannot afford to go with a first time head coach or one with little experience, a la nate mcmillan.

by chaucer on Jun 24, 2009 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nooo to Doug Collins.

by intuitive on Jun 24, 2009 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Didn't he once coach Michael Jordan?

"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson

by Gils_Keloids on Jun 24, 2009 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did he? I don’t remember him ever mentioning it.

/sarcasm

by intuitive on Jun 24, 2009 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

he failed as a head coach before.

by chaucer on Jun 24, 2009 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

i would love to have jerry sloan as our coach. but if we cant have phil, nor coach K, nor van gundy. id go with avery johnson.

by chaucer on Jun 24, 2009 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jerry Sloan?

He’s so boring. His style is played out. Never.

Avery? No. He controls too much.

by wondahbap on Jun 24, 2009 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Joey Buss

"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson

by Gils_Keloids on Jun 24, 2009 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lots and Lots of trade speculation

As the Minnesota Timberwolves prepare to make a push for Memphis’ pick at No. 2, it’s become clear that they won’t package the fifth and sixth picks to get there. The Wolves have made it clear to teams that are trying to pry their 18th pick that it isn’t available. They want to use that in combination with one of the two higher picks to make a deal with Memphis. … The Utah Jazz are enamored with University of Pittsburgh tough guy Sam Young at No. 20, who is a perfect fit for head coach Jerry Sloan. … Golden State has long been enamored with Brandon Jennings at No. 7, but league sources say the Warriors are considering Wake Forest forward James Johnson there as well. Few teams would have Johnson that high on their draft boards. … Chicago Bulls guard Kirk Hinrich(notes) is telling friends that he thinks he’ll be dealt to the Portland Trail Blazers, who have interest in pairing him with Brandon Roy(notes) in the backcourt. … New Jersey Nets ownership finally told Rod Thorn that he doesn’t have to trade Vince Carter(notes) in a salary dump. They thus pulled back on a possible trade with the San Antonio Spurs which would’ve brought them a package including Bruce Bowen(notes), Fabricio Oberto(notes) and Roger Mason(notes) Jr. Nets sources say that if owner Bruce Ratner is going to bail on the Brooklyn arena and sell his team to cut his losses, ownership groups who would potentially purchase the team would rather he doesn’t gut it. … Rival executives say that Cleveland Cavaliers GM Danny Ferry would prefer to do a deal for Carter, which was discussed again recently, but feels pressure to make the monumental move for Phoenix Suns center Shaquille O’Neal(notes). … Oberto, who was traded to the Detroit Pistons in a three-way deal with the Milwaukee Bucks and will be bought out by the Pistons in a salary-cap move, will likely return to San Antonio as a free agent. … There’s no chance Bowen returns to the Spurs if the Bucks buy him out as well. His relationship with Gregg Popovich deteriorated with his dwindling role a year ago, and that partnership is over. … League sources say the Nets have narrowed their choices at No. 11 to North Carolina’s Tyler Hansbrough and Duke’s Gerald Henderson.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Alr975xzAv4BDycNaLUB6j68vLYF?slug=aw-draftbuzz062409&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

by intuitive on Jun 24, 2009 1:21 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

and I read this over on Blazers Edge but I guess Kobe was on the Jim Rome Show and they were discussing possible replacements Kobe would like if Phil were to retire. He said either JVG or Nate McMillan (Blazers coach).. Interesting..

by intuitive on Jun 24, 2009 1:28 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Blazers, Kobe is trying to steal your coach!!!!

"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson

by Gils_Keloids on Jun 24, 2009 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Preseason Schedule

DATE OPPONENT LOCATION TIME
Oct. 7 Golden State Warriors Anaheim, CA (Honda Center) 7:00 pm
Oct. 15 Sacramento Kings Las Vegas, NV (Thomas and Mack) 7:00 pm
Oct. 17 Charlotte Bobcats Los Angeles, CA (STAPLES Center) 7:30pm
Oct. 18 LAC or Utah Los Angeles, CA (STAPLES Center) 7:30pm
Oct. 20 Golden State Warriors Ontario, CA (Citizens Bank Arena) 7:00 pm
Oct. 22 Denver Nuggets Anaheim, CA (Honda Center) 7:00 pm
Oct. 23 Denver Nuggets San Diego, CA (Sports Arena) 7:00 pm

by intuitive on Jun 24, 2009 2:17 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Mitch Kupchak: “There is a better than even likelihood that we’ll move one of our picks.”
Kupchak talked to Phil Jackson this morning: “If he comes back to coach – He will come back and coach both home and away games.”

by intuitive on Jun 24, 2009 2:28 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

what’s up with this rumor about phil coaching only home games, and rambis coaching road games. what do u guys think about that? i’m not so certain anymore about phil coming back. it’s sounding like he may seriously retire. i was very confident he’d be back. not so sure anymore. if he does leave, who should replace him? are u guys comfy with rambis?

by chaucer on Jun 24, 2009 2:47 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Kupchak and Phil agreed that if Phil decides to come back as coach he will coach all the games. (home and away) See comment above

by intuitive on Jun 24, 2009 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The one thing I’m concerned about is that if Phil retires, do they keep the same system or do they scrap it and just go with whatever the new coach wants to install. That’s why I’ve always been in favor of promoting in house with the same system.

by hertagnism on Jun 24, 2009 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

However Kobe feels.

I think they would remain in house to keep remnants of the triangle, but alos allow it to be opened up more.

by wondahbap on Jun 24, 2009 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I really think PJ is coming back

And I don’t see why we even draft have to many players on this team maybe draft and trade for future picks. Most if the players after 15 are D-league caliber!

Paul D. Kelley

by so.cal.native1952 on Jun 24, 2009 8:27 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs


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