Lakers vs Magic: Position-By-Position Breakdown
For those of you who haven't been keeping track, as of right now it has been 11.5 months, 348 days, 8,349 hours, 500,940 minutes, or 30,056,400 seconds since the modern day Boston Massacre. That's right, only 289,800 more heartbeats (70 bpm) until the Los Angeles Lakers are presented with an opportunity to redeem themselves. No, it's not those pesky Boston Celtics with their wheelchairs and depends diapers that we will be playing. Nor will it be those adorable little Cleveland Cavaliers and their walk-on-water leader LeBron James. We fans will just have to take solace in the fact that we SWEPT both of those teams in the regular season (insert smile here).
Our opponent instead is a relative dark horse as far as top four teams go...the bridesmaid of this season who wants so badly to wear that pretty white dress. Yet I'm sure that if you ask Derek, Kobe, or Phil, they will tell you that the Orlando Magic are one of the last teams that they wanted to see in the Finals, The Celtics make the Lakers angry; the Cavs make the Lakers underdogs. But they Magic? They just make the Lakers frustrated. Power Forwards that can shoot the three and a white guy that isn't very athletic? Who do they think they are...us? And of course, they are one of only two teams that swept the Lakers this season, the other being NCAA, er I mean Charlotte Bobcats (Once again, thanks for the gift that is UPS. Just remember to keep Rad Vlad away from the slopes).
So to start off our FInals preview here on SS&R, I present to you the match-ups, because as Jalen Rose will say once the producer finally whispers it into his ear, that is what the NBA is all about.
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Point Guard
Derek Fisher vs Rafer Alston
It was nice to see Derek Fisher find his shot towards the end of the Denver series and finally reach double digits, but people do tend to shoot better when they're not having to catch their breath after every play. There's both good news and bad news with that. Alston is much faster than Chauncey Billups, but not nearly as fast as his replacement in Houston Aaron Brooks, so there is a possibility that Fisher might be able to hang with Alston. I wouldn't count on it, but then again Brooks really wasn't that effective until Yao went down and the lane opened up. Since I don't foresee anything happening to Howard other than some foul trouble, he might actually help negate some of Alston's speed advantage. While Alston might be quicker and more athletic than D-Fish, Derek's leadership and decision making is light years ahead of Alston's. There's a reason that Turkoglu has the ball in his hands so much at the end of the game for the Magic. And honestly, do you think that somebody straight out of the AND1 Mixtape Tour named Skip To My Lou is that great of a traditional point guard? So in the end, it's speed and youth vs wisdom and leadership (this seems to be a theme with Fisher) Advantage: Draw
Shooting Guard
Kobe Bryant vs Courtney Lee
This one is tricky, because I'm not so sure that Mickael Pietrus isn't starting here because of the good defense he played on LeBron. Lee has been spectacular these playoffs, especially for a rookie, but he is just to small and green to guard Kobe. This is obviously the biggest match-up advantage Kobe will have had since the first round (no disrespect to Brewer), so if the Magic do not put a big body on him from the start, the Lakers will return to the pick and roll from Games 1 and 2 of the WCF and Kobe will go bananas. I would also like to say that Kobe will shut down either one of these guards, but we all know that's not going to happen. It is a huge mistake to leave either of these players because of their ability to knock down the 3, but there is an overwhelming need to double Howard, and the easiest way to do this is to have Kobe play rover. This match-up will be a chess game of attacks and counter-attacks, but after what we saw from Kobe in Game 5, I don't think Orlando stands a chance of neutralizing him. If the Magic thought that LeBron was a headache, wait until they meet the Mamba, who has oh, I don't know, about 20 different ways to beat you compared to LeBron's 3. Advantage: Los Angeles
Small Forward
Trevor Ariza vs Hedo Turkoglu
This is perhaps the most interesting match-up. Ariza has the length, quickness, and instinct to bother Turkoglu, but Hedo is bigger, probably stronger, and deadly from three. There is no way that Hedo drives past Ariza, and it is unlikely that he will post him up either, because that is Lewis' job. What I am worried about, besides Turkoglu using his 2 inch advantage on Ariza to hoist threes, is him bulling his way into the lane and drawing fouls. Also, Hedo has the ball in his hands A LOT, and Trevor is a much better off ball defender when he can sneak up and get the steal. In fact, the more I think about it, the more sense it makes to put LO on Turkoglu when he is in the game and put Ariza on the smaller Lewis. But for the sake of the argument, let's pretend that Ariza stays on Turkoglu. Do the Magic have Hedo leave Ariza to help on Bryant, daring him to beat them with his jumper as every other team has done (and I think if you were to ask them now they would regret it)? Or do they have him stay at home (doubtful) and let Ariza use his quickness to blow by him and put Howard in a precarious position? The answer to this question could be a large part of the answer to this series. Advantage: Orlando (but just barely)
Power Forward
Pau Gasol vs Rashard Lewis
Inside vs outside. This is what this match-up comes down to. Lewis will occasionally post, but he will probably do this less so when faced with 7 feet of Spanish terror. This means he will camp out at the three point line where he can knock down threes with the best of them. This also draws Gasol away from the paint, and away from any possible big man double on Howard. And, as a last resort, he can use his slight speed advantage to take Gasol off of the dribble. Of course, that is when the Magic are on offense. When the Lakers have the ball, the tide shifts dramatically. Gasol better register here on SS&R, because he will be posting all game long against the smaller Lewis (I know, that joke was HORRIBLE, but it stays). With a 3 inch height and 15-25 pound weight advantage (probably a first for him), he needs to go to work under the basket all day, every day. With his array of spins, hooks, floaters, and jumpshots, Lewis will be helpless and will probably have to front him. This means weakside help from Howard and lots of dunks for my man Andrew Bynum. Of course, when Odom comes in and Gasol switches to Howard, then it's lights out, you're so soft, blah blah blah, but let's close our eyes and pretend that it's Howard, not Bynum, in foul trouble. Ahhh, that's better. Advantage: Los Angeles
Center
Andrew Bynum vs Dwight Howard
Keep that seat at the end of the bench warn, because big Drew will be headed there soon enough. Despite all of his improvement in these playoffs, Bynum still has a nasty habit of picking up 2 quick fouls. Granted some of these were him protecting the basket after blown assignments, but he is our biggest, strongest body and needs to stay on the floor. Yet if he is in foul trouble against the likes of Collins and Nene, I shudder at the thought of what Howard and his incredibly small shirts will do to him. Once he goes to the bench, it's easy pickings for Howard against Gasol, Odom, and Mbenga. If he does manage to stay on the floor, Bynum's job will be simple: rebound and stay behind Howard. The Magic cannot get second chance opportunities because that will lead to threes, and while Bynum cannot stop Howard, he can slow him by forcing him into a lot of jumpshots. On offense, Andrew can try to score a lot, but he is going against the DPOY and an excellent on ball defender. All I can ask is for Bynum to give a pump fake, get Howard in the air, and draw a foul or two. Anything past that is gravy, and really it will be up to our guards to drive and draw fouls on Superman. Advantage: Orlando
Bench
Orlando's bench is solid, but very, very shallow, often only 3 players deep. Provided the Lakers bench shows up, they will have a huge advantage. For the Magic, Pietrus is very good, but Gortat is an energy player, Johnson is aging, and Redick is s sharpshooter. The rest (Foyle, Battie, and Lue – remember him?) barely sniff the court. Compare that to the Lakers, who have a swiss army knife in Odom, 2 explosive and confident point guards in Farmar and UPS, and two struggling but potentially dangerous players in Vujacic and Walton (uggh I can't believe I just said that last part). Oh, and Mbenga too, but he is just a big body and 6 fouls. If the bench decides to show up and play, they could very well win this series for the Lakers. Advantage: Los Angeles
Coaching
After a very tough series against Houston, Phil Jackson received a lot of criticism, most of it from yours truly. However, he bounced back against Denver and showed why he gets the big bucks with those masterful Games 5 and 6. Just like Kobe, PJ has been there and done that when it comes to championships, and right now it appears that he is on top of his game. Stan Van Gundy, on the other hand, is as green as his team when it comes to the finals. I see him as less of a coach and more of a motivator, and as entertaining as it is, I'm not exactly looking forward to hearing him scream nonsense for 30 minutes a game. Also remember, there was the little tet-a-tet he and Dwight Howard had over who should get the ball, so keep an eye on that should the Magic find themselves in a hole. Advantage: Los Angeles
Intangibles
This one is obvious. Basically all of the Magic are new to this possible NBA championship thing, while the Lakers certainly are not. Kobe, Fish, and Phil have been to countless finals, and the rest of the team was there last year. Thanks to their humiliating defeat in Game 6 of those finals at the hands of the hated Celtics, the Lakers are angry. They are hungry. They are driven and while it's not like the Magic are satisfied with just a conference championship, many did not expect them to be here and I just don't see them having the motivation required to stop Kobe, much less this entire Lakers team. Advantage: Los Angeles
Well, there you have it. I've shared my thoughts, so feel free to chime in with yours below. See you Thursday!
Go Purple & Gold!
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Just thought about this little twist
Actually I read about it somewhere else, but I’ll take credit:
Trevor Ariza used to play on the Orlando Magic!
Remember, the Lakers traded him for Brian Cook and Maurice Evans, both of whom are no longer on the Magic.
So this series will be a redemption for Trevor Ariza, too, to show the team that let him go what a big mistake they made.
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
The magic will admit they made a mistake if...
Trevor nails 20+ threes in the series
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
I am curious about the the Lewis and Pau supposed match up
I just don’t think that Phil will put Pau on R. Lewis. Lewis will force Pau to come out of the paint on defense and the Lakers need all the lenght they can to get rebounds against Howard. I honestly see the Lakers Starting Kobe, Fisher, Pau, Ariza and Odom. I think he will bring Bynum off the bench and put Odom on Lewis and Ariza on Turkoglu. I wouldn’t be surprised if he put Fisher on Lee and Kobe on Torkuglu. Similar to what they did in Denver by putting Kobe on Billups and Fisher on Dahntay.
Either way, I don’t think that the Lakers are going to make the mistake that Cleveland did by not putting Lebron on Turkoglu or Lewis. I think Kobe will begin by guarding one of them.
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Jun 1, 2009 9:15 PM PDT reply actions
Yes, I gotta believe that Odom will get the start over Bynum
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
Disagree
I’ve given this a lot of thought, and while Odom is the obvious choice to guard Lewis, the gains are not worth what is lost by not starting Bynum. Not that I’m calling Pau soft (ok maybe I am), but Howard would eat him alive. Not only that, he would get Pau in serious foul trouble. Now ask yourself this. Who is more important to running our offense: Gasol or Bynum?
The Lakers will need to limit the amount of time Gasol spends guarding Howard, and that means starting Bynum. Yes, Lewis is a huge mismatch defensively for Gasol, but the same goes for the Magic when the Lakers have the ball. It then becomes a matter of which player is better at imposing his will. Call me crazy, but based on what I saw from Gasol against Denver, I think he will be the one doing the imposing.
Kurt did the breakdown of Gasol v Howard in the Olympics
And concludes that Pau will be OK.
I’m not sure either way, which is why I wish today was Thursday.
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
Good post, I agree with all but one area.
I would call the bench a tie. Yes if ours shows up they are better, but they have not shown that they will show up consistently. If our bench “sort of” shows up then I would call it even. This is about what I expect.
Well, sir, you are a cowardly son of a bitch! You just shot an unarmed man!.......Well, he should have armed himself if he's going to decorate his saloon with my friend. – Will Munny
Ah college
Screw you, I have to get up at 7:30 every morning for work!
Smiley face. I refuse to do the colon-parentheses sequence.
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
by Gils_Keloids on Jun 1, 2009 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Wait I guess you don't have to be in college
Could be high school?
But what’s the deal with the Saturday exam?
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
by Gils_Keloids on Jun 1, 2009 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions
No it's college
and it’s called getting the shaft when it comes to scheduling. There are so many damn classes at UCLA that finals week runs Sat-Fri. I’m just glad that they scheduled two days between Games 1 and 2
Yeah, but that didn't really make sense
As they put the two day gaps not in between the travel dates.
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
by Gils_Keloids on Jun 1, 2009 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions
It makes sense for TV
Friday and Saturday are their two lowest rated nights of the week so they made sure to avoid them.
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Jun 2, 2009 2:11 AM PDT up reply actions
Random comment
I hate when a person’s argument is that the “Lakers are beatable”, or that “the Lakers can be beaten”.
Duh. Every team is beatable, and can be beaten. This is not what most of us are debating. The question is “how are they beatable”?
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
I also agree with the matchups but
the PG matchup Alston has the speed but Lakers have the size, look for Lakers to post Fisher against Alston something Lakers did to him when he was in Houston. Overall I think the Lakers will draw more doubling them Orlando on offense, giving the Lakers the advantages inside and outside.
Wouldn't it be great if both teams played single coverage the whole series?
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
by Gils_Keloids on Jun 1, 2009 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't think
fisher is nearly as good as alston this year
neither is turkoglu slightly better than ariza
turkoglu is better than ariza no doubt
Lakers have a much deeper bench (though inconsistent)
and should use that to their advantage against the magics
Turk is better than Ariza...
in certain facets of the game. For example, he’s a better three point shooter and better at creating off the dribble. Trevor though is better at playing passing lane defense and offensive rebounding. Luckily for us, Trevor doesn’t have to create off the dribble much and takes only wide open threes.
I wouldn’t trade Trevor for Turk straight up given our team’s chemistry and how Trevor is an important part of that.
This is my issue with the whole match-up analysis thing. Sure some match-ups like Howard on Bynum are crucial because those two will spend a lot of time on each other, but other match-ups such as wing and perimeter match-ups are pretty insignificant (that is to say, you can’t compare stats between Turk and Ariza and decesively say it’s an advantage for either team).
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
It will be
really interesting to see how long the magics play both
gortat and howard at the same time
What makes you think they'll do this?
I don’t think I’ve ever seen them do this. They’ll become pretty darn offensively challenged which would not be a smart move on their part. Sacrificing their offense might not be worth trying to stop Gasol (key word: trying).
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
"[...]and while Bynum cannot stop Howard, he can slow him by forcing him into a lot of jumpshots."
While there are other points you made that I can disagree with, this one was the most glaringly inaccurate. Jumpshots? You are talking about Dwight Howard, right? Jump hooks maybe, but if Dwight is taking jump shots in this series, it will be in a Magic blowout victory. Also, while I agree that Phil Jackson has the advantage from a coaching perspective, the thought that SVG is “less of a coach and more of a motivator” is a mistake many have made this season. While it wasn’t hard to outcoach Mike Brown in the ECFs, he ran circles around Brown with every critical coaching decision. He is many things, including a motivator (which I don’t see as derogatory comment), but he is also a great X’s and O’s guy as well. Those two attributes are what define the term “coach” in my opinion.
ORLANDO MAGIC NBA FINALS BOUND!!!!!
LET'S GO MAGIC! LET'S GO!!!
As far as I know
Howard is still developing defensively, which is a scary thought. This means that while he is nearly unstoppable when he gets position, he still needs work on the 10-12 footer, hence the reason he faces up and drives so much. Now maybe he is much better at jumpshots then before, I not really sure. You obviously follow more closely being a fan. All I really know is that the Lakers would rather get beat by his shot then his dunk
I'm saying he WON'T be taking jumpshots since this isn't in his offensive repertoire.
Sure, he has dabbled in taking them here and there in the regular season, but in the postseason, it’s been all BEAST DWIGHT going to rim. There’s not a defensive set the Lakers can throw at Dwight that will force him into taking jumpers. If for some odd reason you do see him take a jumper instead of trying to post up, be involved in a pick-n-roll, or pass out to a shooter/passer, SVG will take the quickest timeout you’ve ever seen.
ORLANDO MAGIC NBA FINALS BOUND!!!!!
LET'S GO MAGIC! LET'S GO!!!
Why do people keep saying Turkoglu is better than Ariza??
Folks you do know Ariza is playing some amazing basketball this post season right? 50% from three to Turkoglu’s 37%, 56% from the field compared to Turkoglu’s 41%, I don’t understand why Turkoglu has the advantage on Ariza. Ariza’s got 7 more blocked shots than Turkoglu who has the 2-inch height advantage. I don’t think the physical advantage Turk’s got over Ariza is really that big of a difference maker. You also factor in his snake-like reflex’s in the passing lanes and those 97 assists Turkoglu is sitting on become very real opportunities for turnovers. Which by the way makes sense, because as far the playoffs go, Hedo is leading the pack in turnovers (51), Dwight Howard is ironically next on the list (47), followed by Kobe (43), Rashard Lewis (40), and Pau Gasol (39). 3 out of the top 5 players leading the post season in turnovers are Magic starters. The other 2 are Lakers starters. I don’t know how you can believe that the guy with the most turnovers has got the advantage over the guy ranked #5 in steals this postseason with the only player having more in less minutes being Rafer Alston, or how you can call him deadly from 3, when he’s only made 25 0f 67 from downtown, compared to Ariza who’s drained 30 of 60. The only advantage in their shooting comes at the free throw line, but Hedo’s only gone to the line 84 times in the playoffs, so how much does that really factor in? Come on, folks…..
Not so much with the stats
Hedo is important to the Magic team because he facilitates their offense. He is a triple threat in the sense that he can drive to the basket, pass or shoot equally well.
He also has been dangerous in the pick and roll.
Ariza has been great this post season. I mean your stats say it all. But Hedo still has the advantage on Ariza because of what he does for the Magic team. He starts their offense and though he may not be the number one option, he is still the guy handling the ball. Ariza for the Lakers is a defensive stopper and a #3 option for offense.
I do believe that Ariza will be able to defend Hedo very well and disrupt the pick and roll he plays with Dwight.
Nothing about the Reddick-Morrison matchup?
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
Don't you wish...
…Morrison was at least half as good as Radmanovic? 28 ppg in the NCAA. Wish he brought some to the Lakers!
Great read
These are the starting match-ups yes?
I doubt Courtney Lee will be on Kobe though. I really see Pietrus on Kobe. He’s SVG’s version of Battier.
I have a feeling LO will still be on the bench to start but will play major minutes against Lewis and Turkoglu. Gasol will have a tough time keeping in step with Lewis.
Phil Jax may pull off a huge line-up change to start the series but I know FOR SURE Fisher will be starting. Haha!
Yes
You broke it down more by position in yours. If we were to do all of the potential matchups, we would be here all day :)
Van Gundy is far more than a motivator
He can be counted on to make major adjustments in crunch time.
"I was playing in the streets one time and my friend broke off a leg to a chair and threw it at another guy through his heart and he died." - Ron Artest, QB's finest

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