Game 2 Post-Game Thread
by Sideout11 on May 6, 2009 11:06 PM PDT
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PrintWell the Lakers bounced back to take Game 2 on the back of a huge 40 point game by the Mamba. Now it is up to them to steal one in Houston and retake home court advantage. Here is the recap and box score. Game 3 on Friday.
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Post game from Ron Artest.......
“Don’t you know who you’re hitting, I’m Ron Artest”………….LOL
"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley
TNT hit gold
When they had Fish talking about toughness for the pre-game.
That is leadership. That is sports.
When the refs aren’t protecting your guys, and guys are talking smack to you, and grabbing your jersey, you pay. He didn’t hurt anyone, he just sent a message.
By the way, I fear for Kobe’s life. Artest is volatile.
I'll give you rockets fans credit............
trash talking after a loss……….that takes balls…………..or something.
"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley
this just goes to show how blinded you are. derek fisher elbowed luis scola in the face. game 1 kobe elbowed and kneed battier in the head. that is not getting “physical” that is just overall douchebaggery
i had respect for the lakers before. game 1 and 2 made me realize the sort of trash that comprises your team
by lawlruschang on May 6, 2009 11:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh man..
I was pissed off but now I’m just laughing my ass off.
I love Playoff Basketball. What a series this will be. hahaha.
Yes, that was a GREAT playoff game. When the Blazers learn how to play like either one of those teams, then Rocket fans and Blazer fans alike will be whining...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Milled Animal
...ha ha LAKER fans!!!
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Milled Animal
SS&R is taking over my brain...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Milled Animal
Fisher's foul was necessary!
The Laker’s toughness has been in question and mostly by Laker fans. Anyone who truly loves the Lakers will admit that after this game you had a sense of FINALLY! some heart. In my opinion Fisher’s foul could of changed the whole series around in the Lakers advantage. Let’s hope the take advantage of it.
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on May 6, 2009 11:26 PM PDT reply actions
LOL you’ve showed us you can hit and shove our players. that’s high school junk.
tru wariers speak through the way they play (e.g. game 1)
by lawlruschang on May 6, 2009 11:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Obviously
you haven’t watched many games or you’d know that there’s a lot of hitting and shoving going on all around the league when players are trying to fight for position.
If you're going to drop RonRon's weak nickname......at least spell it right
"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley
two R's. Warrier.
"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley
It's all gud.
"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley
stop trying to save yourself
you’re wrong.
by lawlruschang on May 6, 2009 11:41 PM PDT up reply actions
See I told you it's all gud.
"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley
lawlruschang
Don’t you feel silly whining about “pushing and shoving” when I see you claiming your team is the physical tough team, blah, blah, blah the the Lakers don’t like.
Which one is it?
i think i've made it pretty clear
boxing out for rebounds or going for a loose ball is different from flagrant attacks on players
by lawlruschang on May 6, 2009 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions
You mean...
…by jumping into the crowd and attacking fans? That type of warrior?
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on May 6, 2009 11:36 PM PDT up reply actions
oh 2 can play this game
by being a rapist? LOL
no, i think we know both things were in the past/may not have happened. chill out
by lawlruschang on May 6, 2009 11:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I never saw the video of the rape???
Is it on youtube?
"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley
The thing is....
one thing DID happen and another SUPPOSEDLY happened but that doesn’t stop people from jumping to conclusions.
either way that was artest 6 years ago. obama admitted to smoking weed when he was a kid, is that a reason to remove him from office today?
by lawlruschang on May 6, 2009 11:48 PM PDT up reply actions
You cant just say "that was Artest 6 years ago"
and then completely ignore that you guys are always calling Kobe a rapist…..
i don't know if kobe is a rapist
i wasn’t there. therefore, i’m not going to say he is.
IF kobe was a rapist, i’m sure he learned his lesson. like ron learned his when he came to houston
by lawlruschang on May 6, 2009 11:55 PM PDT up reply actions
How dare you compare Ron Artest to Obama
Artest would destroy Obama
by Gils_Keloids on May 7, 2009 12:29 AM PDT up reply actions
That didn't beat you.
Us being a better team did.
You’ve won 1 game out of 5 against us so far this year. Get off your high horse.
It was a blatantly illegal, suspendable, gonna be suspended, got ejected and gonna get fined GLORIOUS DECLEATER...
Any Texan who can’t appreciate a carefully targeted decleater on an abrasive, clutching, grabbing, whining flopper who needed one is pusillanimous and persnickity….
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Milled Animal
Plus it was a POINT GUARD completely flattening a POWER FORWARD...
Go ahead, Aaron Brooks, lay that down on Lamar Odom and see if you can do it…
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Milled Animal
haha ok, what a huuuge feat, so a guy who slams into an unsuspecting player behind him is able to knock him down. didn’t know you guys had lowered your standards of toughness so far
by lawlruschang on May 6, 2009 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions
With Artest on the Rockets...
…and you question our teams standards?
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on May 6, 2009 11:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I still doubt Brooks could do it to Lamar under the same circumstances. And It’s not like Scola wasn’t expecting any contact, he just wasn’t expecting what he got.
Acting?............from an Argentinian?
No way…………
"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley
Hey, stop stealing my frontpage joke from tomorrow...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Milled Animal
It was a really beautiful hit...
Look, we don’t know what Scola did or didn’t do. But it’s pretty clear that he did something that was deemed over the line and Fisher put a MAMMOTH hit on him to enforce the code.
It happens in football and it happens in baseball and it’s nice to see that it happens in the wussified NBA of today…
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Milled Animal
Yeah but you forget
it was our point guard that rammed into your POWER FORWARD and sent him FLYING (he flopped on that one).
Let the suspension come..
..Fisher has not produced offensively. In my opinion it was his age and lack of speed that hurt the Lakers in game one. Not to mention lousy shooting. But offensively speaking Fisher has not produced and his man has been killing him. So, this might be a blessing. Let’s hope Farmar ro S. Brown’s speed make up for it. Either way, that foul was essential for the Lakers.
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on May 6, 2009 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Fisher has officially enshrined himself.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Milled Animal
NOW WHERE IS THE YOU TUBE LINK?!?!?!?
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Milled Animal
I was looking for a PUS— word to express my feelings... That's the first one that came to mind. Honest.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
As nerve-wracking as it was, THIS is fun
Not the physical nonsense and the ejections, but the tough, gritty win against an equal, deserving opponent. This reminds me of the battles against the Kings and the Spurs in the 3-peat days. The Rockets are just a great team, every bit our equal, and it’s truly fun to watch each team counter the other.
The only thing that sucks is that isn’t the WCF.
Denver is going to be pretty tough too
For whoever survives this series.
Bork bork bork!
by Avinash Kunnath on May 6, 2009 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Rockets are tough..
Yao’s height is causing a lot of problems on the defensive end. But the key is going to be at the PG position. Brooks is killing the Lakers. Denver does not have the dominant center on the offensive end that the Rockets have.
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on May 6, 2009 11:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Brooks for 3
Brooks is flash quick, gives up strength but does well because he reads space and knows where to be. That’s why he’s open and he can drill. Definitely a weapon we’re struggling to neutralize but I think the bigger guards will wear him down if he doesn’t work of the pick and roll.
Play your 6ixth Man!
They were in together a lot during the 4th quarter
They played surpisingly well together
Proved to be a good combination.
They work pretty well together and seem to feed off each others speed and energy.
Phil got something right in his substitutions today.
Still it was working because of the Rockets backcourt
of Lowry and Brooks on the court together. Aside from a few missed layups, I liked the energy those two put out in the fourth quarter. Hope it carries over to Game 3. Game 3 is a critical game and without Fish, those two need to step up.
Yeap
As I said above, Farmar and Brown on the floor at the same time together is actually a lot better than
Farmar with Sasha or Brown with Sasha. I hope PJ uses Farmar and Shannon together more often.
Also,
I think that line-up would be great when we have a big lead because they like to continue pushing the pace and love getting out on the fast break.
Yeah but the problem is
whenever we have big leads and that lineup comes in, the leads are gone because they push the pace so much that they can’t control it. This leads to turnovers and also starts getting them to play poor defense.
but in their defense
whenever we have a big lead Phil puts in a line up that probably has never played together before.
Well they better do more of it next game
because there’s no way Fisher’s going to play. Start UPS and bring Farmar off the bench.
but if anyone can score as well as we do
its denver
thank you
for not cheering the fouls, and for a level-headed, objective take on the game.
there should be more laker fans like you
by lawlruschang on May 6, 2009 11:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Well I tried to be level-headed on the Dream Shake
And got my head nearly taken off. I can understand post-game emotions, I guess, but I really was trying to be as reasonable as possible. I don’t think I said anything wrong, but I guess people were pissed off about earlier trolls.
They're the Mecca of jumping to "troll" conclusions.
"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley
the only people’s heads i saw getting taken off were the ones glorifying the fouls
by lawlruschang on May 6, 2009 11:43 PM PDT up reply actions
+1
There are trolls in every fan base, and intelligent fans in every fan base. People should just take the time to chill and listen to each other and we’d actually get some great bball discussion.
When do the 'other' rocket fans arrive??
"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley
lmao
they’re there, just concealed very carefully
blah, blah, blah....
You can’t talk about basketball, you can’t whine about officiating, so you try whining about trolling?
"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley
Kobe Bryant's performance was reminiscent of the 61 point game.
Think about it.
Kobe Bryant threw up 61 earlier this year in MSG when Bynum went down with what could have been a season ending injury. The supposed answer to all the Lakers defensive deficiencies and the key them winning a championship. What did Kobe remind his team and the rest of the world? As long as I’m around, we can still win a championship. That game and message came at a critical time in the season. The Lakers were energized and went on to win back to back road games in Boston and Cleveland.
Fast forward to Game two of the playoffs. Bynum is not injured, but its clear that he won’t be 100% this playoffs and the Lakers are going to have to win a title without him at his best. The Lakers championship dreams have been dashed with a stunning home loss to the Rockets. On top of all this, the Lakers put up a very lackluster second quarter and allow the Rockets to come back after being down 14. What does Kobe say? No way we’re losing. I’m gonna drop 40. He shot well and he carried his team, yet he did so without taking them out of the game.
The last time this happened, the Lakers responded and showed they were the best team in the NBA. Now, they have a similar opportunity to respond going into Houston. Time will only tell whether or not this team can win a ’ship or not.
The Rage
Like everyone else on the SS&R, I’ve been watchin’ playoff hoop for a minute…since 1987 when I was a junior higher. Hard fouls tonight? YES. Cheap shots? If you’ve ever guarded an NBA player you know that it can get chippy really quickly. It’s never cool but it’s par especially in the playoffs. Judging from some of these posts, I’d say a lot of you guys never had a fight or been roused to the point of wanting to. IQ has nothing to do with it. That’s what the stripes are for. They’ll do their job and keep guys from killin’ one another. I’m huge on sportsmanship like tonight when Rashard Lewis dapped Rajon Rondo after fouling him hard. We’re gonna see both sides. But to write guys off as assailants becaue they ran through a screen? Man up everybody. Scola is a big boy and guess what, if the league suspends Fish for a game which they will. Fish will take it like a man ‘cause that’s what men do Lakers in 5.
Play your 6ixth Man!
Great post
I feel ya. I think Lakers in five too. What Fish did is suspendable, but he sent a message to that team. Ron Artest is full of it did you hear him in the locker afterward? Who’s he gonna come at next game the refs?
Most def
Yeah I hear you. Sacrifices have to be made sometimes a la Rick Fox to respond to what Houston dishes. You can’t compromise who you are but you gotta send that message you’re talking about. Ron is a different cat. seriously. Isn’t he on meds?
Play your 6ixth Man!
lol
I think thats how he got the nickname Crazy Pills. I like when he said “Don’t you know you’re elbowing ron artest” in the postgame interview. He was talking to KOBE BRYANT lol.
I hope the NBA
decides to mic up Ron Artest. That would be awesome just listening to what he’s saying.
I think it probably went like this...
Jack: “I remember when the Lakers played the Celtics and Magic was going off… great series.”
Ron: “Yeah, it was great. Larry Bird told me he wish he’d played against me in his prime.”
Play it again Ron
I read hi slips at one point. “Hit me in my throat again.” I wouldn’t want to right Ron but that’s just a funny thing to say to someone you know won’t do it again. lol
Play your 6ixth Man!
THANK YOU!
Couldn’t of said it better.
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on May 6, 2009 11:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Now the question is how do we protect Kobe from Ron Artest in Game 3?
I say we enlist Chuck Norris.
Ron Artest
Would take Chuck Norris’ tears and drown him in them
by Gils_Keloids on May 7, 2009 12:32 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm usually behind on the game on my DVR
So I can’t live chat.
I don’t mind not being live, and I also like to rewind a lot and read lips, and look at fouls.
Plus, I pause at halftime to wait for the wife to watch with me.
by Gils_Keloids on May 7, 2009 12:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Nah...
Chuck Norris is a Texas guy. He’ll definitely be on the Rockets side. I say we enlist the Governator.
Aside from all the flagrants and ejection. Man was that a good game and Kobe went vintage Kobe tonight. That pass to himself off the backboard was (to mimic Stu) noooice! Pau had a good game and played well on Yao. Pau MADE Yao defend him, and Pau’s lateral movement is much much better then Yao’s which resulted in Yao fouling him in order to stop him
Wait I've just heard word that Kobe's studied Jeet Kune Do.
And let’s not forget we’ve got Kareem sitting on the sideline. Didn’t he train with Bruce Lee?
I liked how when no one else could get Ron off the court, it was Yao’s words who got Ron turned around. Ron’s crazy, but he’s got a lot of respect for Yao. That team wouldn’t function if he didn’t.
Oh yeah
Kobe did study Jeet Kune Do. And yes, we forgot all about the Captain. He not only trained with Bruce Lee; he sparred with the guy!
As I expected
for the Lakers to tie the series up but I wasn’t expecting all the rough play and ejections but I’ll say this I think Fisher shouldn’t be suspended and bring on game 3 because things just got interesting.
No way he doesn't get suspended...
All the things are there. Premeditated, excessive, and flagrant.
Plus he basically admitted it himself.
Well..
If he does I still like Farmer and Shannon over Fisher anyway and this will give those guys a chance to step in and take the role for a game. This very much can be a positive for the Lakers.
I can 100% guarantee you that he will be suspended. I don't see any shadow of a doubt about that...
But really, isn’t UPS a young Derek Fisher?
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Milled Animal
I don't think a young Derek Fisher can jump that high but
all the other traits are right along that line.
I wonder what effect, if any, tonight's chippiness and the Artest Factor
will have on how subsequent games are reffed.
"I've hacked into your brain. You're throwing a party and no one's showing up."
It will most likely get ramped up
Given the nature of tonight’s game, there will be probably a lot of quick whistles to start Game 3. Hopefully the team has matured enough to keep playing through that and not lose their composure.
Game 3 is especially critical for us.
Laker Fans a Couple Honest Things From a Levelheaded Rockets Fan...
Yall keep complaining of how we are bringing up kobe being a rapist. I personally havent done that til now, but thats besides the point. If your going to complain about that STOP BRINGING UP HOW ARTEST IS A THUG, OR THAT HE BRINGS DOWN OUR TEAM CLASSINESS. Artest has never acted like a thug on the Rockets, that stands incident was 6 years ago. Its the past, it hasnt happenede again. Ron HAS GROWN UP. HE DIDNT THROW ELBOWS OR PUNCHES TONIGHT BECAUSE HE HAS GROWN UP.
About the possibility of kobe being suspended…READ THIS LINK…
http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/30486854
If youre lazy ill sum it up for you.
“The Dwight Howard suspension tells you the players are capable of hurting each other,‘’ Stern said. "We’re there to protect the players. If you throw a punch, you’re gone. If you throw an elbow above the shoulder, you’re gone. If you come off the bench, you’re gone."
I dont know if kobe will be suspended, but DONT BE SURPRISED IF HE IS THE PRECEDENT WAS SET TO SUSPEND A STAR IN THE LAST ROUND.
Game 1 100-92 Rockets
Game 2 111-98 lakers
Series Tied 1-1
Okay but there's a huge difference that should be pointed out
Dwight’s elbow was during a dead ball and intentional.
Kobe’s appeared unintentional as he was fighting for position with Ron Artest under the basket. So that should be taken into consideration by Stu Jackson.
After all, if Rondo’s closed fist foul on Brad Miller didn’t warrant one, then Kobe shouldn’t be suspended for something that happens every play when two players are jockeying for rebounding position.
There's another big difference
Artest actually got in a brawl.
Kobe was only accused of rape.
So when you bring up one, you are bringing a veritable fact. The other is an allegation.
by Gils_Keloids on May 7, 2009 12:53 AM PDT up reply actions
You're dreaming
Kobe’s not gonna be suspended for the next game. The most the league will do is assess him a flagrant one foul, but that’s all. The Rockets aren’t getting off that easy. For a team like Houston which is supposed to be “tough” they sure wilted like a bunch of pansies when the Lakers turned up the pressure. I wonder if Houston’s gonna continue to be that intimidated in the next game.
Did you read what i wrote??
I never said kobe will be suspended. I said i dont know if he will be and that it shouldnt be surprise. Turning up the pressure and playing blatantly dirty are different. Playing physical and playing dirty are different. Ive never seen the Rockets run through a pick with their entier body weight, and throw an elbow to the body at the same time. Thats not how you run through a pick. Ive never seen the rockets throw an elbow above the shoulders, but i will admit that it probably has happened.
Hertagnism: The analysts excuse for rondo swiping miller was that he was going for the ball. i personally thought it was BS and he should have been suspended, but whatever. kobe wasnt going for the ball, and he threw a high elbow. But again, i dont know if it warrants a suspension.
Gils: Either way they are both in the past and both players have matured since then. There comes a point when you cant keep dangling something above a persons head cause you never give them a second chance that way.
Game 1 100-92 Rockets
Game 2 111-98 lakers
Series Tied 1-1
I agree with that
I got no problem with what Ron did.
I also have no problem with what Kobe did. It should be a flagrant foul. Then again, if they had called a foul on Ron for shoving Kobe down 2 seconds before that, it might not have happened. That’s on the refs. They need to control this thing.
You know what I love about Jordan Farmar?
He doesn’t sulk and he doesn’t feel sorry for himself.
The guy has an A+ attitude in life.
He knew he might be needed, and he was ready when the call came.
Coach’s dream.
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