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Around SBN: Two Minutes Of Thunder Basketball Wins The Game

Opening Credits 5/5/09

Disappointing.  The Rockets won.

The Rockets seized homecourt with Yao, Ron Ron and Aaron Brooks all having great games.  Meanwhile, Kobe was hot and cold, and Pau and LO were invisible for most of the game.  We kept their bench from making a real impact (Wafer - 0 pts), but their starters we just better, and still it was a fairly close game.  We know we can play better.  Can Houston?

Our own Rybreadraz gives us "The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly."

Forum Blue & Gold's Kurt, Darius, and Reed give their "Game One Thoughts."

Plaschke writes, "For Lakers, it's time for that tough question."

We were beat in the 4th Quarter.  We had a chance to take the game, and let the Rockets go on a 9-0 run immediatley after we go up 77-76.  Houston stepped up in crunch time for the first time against us this season.  The Orange County Register's Janis Carr examines this.

Rob Mahoney of Hardwood Paroxysm writes, "But though this may be the most talented offensive squad in the league, the Rockets made them look awfully uncomfortable last night.  Houston gave L.A. a quick punch in the mouth just to remind us all of the Lakers’ mortality....Yet, in spite of a miserable night from the league’s most deadly offense, the Lakers were right there in the fourth quarter.  A few made buckets for the Rockets and we’re talking about how gutsy the Lakers are (or probably just talking about how much we hate them)."

Click on through for the rest of the links.

Star-divide

Ramona Shelburne:  "Kobe's unselfishness needs to be more than a passing fancy inorder for the Lakers to succeed."

ESPN's J.A. Adande gives his take for Daily Dime.

The Orange County Register's Kevin Ding's Recap.

Ball Don't Lie: "We've seen it for years. Whenever a Phil Jackson-coached team comes out in the first game of a series after having a significant time off between rounds, the squad falls flat....That said, the Lakers are smart. They know exactly what they did wrong, and they're usually keen to make up for that. Look out."

Houston Gets Defensive.  A breakdown by Kevin Arnovitz.

dEDGE's Breakdown of the Game.

20 Second Timeout: "...there is every reason to believe that they can not only win game two but also win at least one game in Houston to retake home court advantage."

Slam Online's Recap

Our own Timbo's "View From Houston"

SI.com's Chris Mannix: "Will Bynum make his presence felt?"

Reviews between the Lakers and Rockets are mixed on MVP pick of LeBron.

Here's a rumor I don't like.  Byron Scott, future Lakers coach?

 

Audio/Video:

The Basketball Jones

The Dan Patrick Show

710 ESPN Los Angeles

ESPN NBA Today

 

 

 

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I'm not going to rub it in

I warned all the lakers fans that this was going to be physical. I thought that it was a great game. Neither team would back down. I look forward to tomarow nights game. I feel that we’re in for another slugfest!

by mutombo4life on May 5, 2009 10:12 AM PDT reply actions  

I was going to suggest wait and not say anything until the series was done

But all this talk would all be a lot less fun if waited to do it after the series was done.

And one side (the losing side) probably wouldn’t want to participate.

Think of us going back to the Jazz site to say “we told you so” after their comments after the Jazz won Game 3. Seems like trolling to do that, but I much prefer to have hindsight, because no one wins these arguments in real time.

by Gils_Keloids on May 5, 2009 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh my God, it’s a Rockets fan. Here. Isn’t that against your philosophy of blogdom, mutombo?

Straight from the No-Stat Zone to your computer!
Dunkin' Cheerleaders

by LatinD on May 5, 2009 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

It took the lakers out of the game

and left the crowd booing at the end. So the answer is, yes. See you Wed. night.

by mutombo4life on May 5, 2009 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Two accidental plays do not make it a physical game.

There’s no way it can be called physical with the amount of ticky tack touch fouls the refs called all game.

by wondahbap on May 5, 2009 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

What accidental plays??

Kobe elbowing, kneeing, and pushing the ball into battier’s neck in the first quarter?? Yeah, thats totally an accident.

The Lakers need to be ready to play fair physically games if they want to beat the Rockets.

Game 1 100-92 Rockets

Rockets Lead Series 1-0

by TexasHoosier on May 5, 2009 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, here we go with this mythical physicality. The game was not physical, and neither is your team.

Accidental. As in Sasha accidentally bustin Battier’s face open, and Kobe knocking knees with Yao.

Neither of those plays were the result of “physical play.” They were unfortunate results of typical play.

by wondahbap on May 5, 2009 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good job talking about what i was

The Playoffs are physical. Maybe this one wasnt too physical, but in Houston it will be. Kobe’s cheap shots when he was on top of Battier in the 1st were physical. Basketball is a physical sport, a contact sport, so dont say it wasnt physical cause im watching it right now and it was. Sorry.

Game 1 100-92 Rockets

Rockets Lead Series 1-0

by TexasHoosier on May 5, 2009 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

If they are "physical" in Houston.

Don’t expect you’ll have the edge. Our guys have gone against better, and will be ready. Trust me.

Watch the Celtics and Cavs games this year. We can bring it.

by wondahbap on May 5, 2009 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

better what?

physicality or defenses? Celtics and Cavs defenses in the regular season arent what the rockets defense is now

Game 1 100-92 Rockets

Rockets Lead Series 1-0

by TexasHoosier on May 5, 2009 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

You homerism says that.

I doubt anyone outside of Houston will agree with you.

by wondahbap on May 5, 2009 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe a little bit

but look at the stats. I dont have the pace stats but i do know that Portland and LA were two of the top 3 adjusted offensive teams in the league this season. In 7 games the Rockets have held those two teams to an average of 87.86 ppg. That means the Rockets are making teams play at the rockets pace.

maybe its homerism, but maybe its just me knowing the team more than everyone outside houston.

Game 1 100-92 Rockets

Rockets Lead Series 1-0

by TexasHoosier on May 5, 2009 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Playing at the Rockets pace?

We shot the ball 88 times last night.

We average 85 shots per game in the regular season, and 83 vs Houston. So, what pace?

by wondahbap on May 5, 2009 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Okay i admit i was wrong on that comment

but i did say i didnt have the pace stats.

The lakers shot worse than they their average for the season and whether that was rust (which should go away by the 2nd quarter) or good defense we will have to wait and see. I think clevelands game tonight will be a good judge of that. LA had 6 days off, Cleveland had 8.

Game 1 100-92 Rockets

Rockets Lead Series 1-0

by TexasHoosier on May 5, 2009 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cleveland and the Lakers have nothing to do with each other.

There’s no relevance.

I don’t blame anything on rust. The Lakers were flat. Played flat. Missed shots they should and do make. That’s all their is to it.

by wondahbap on May 5, 2009 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well then your statement

telling me to watch the LA games vs Cle and Bos means nothing too.

Houston has nothing to do with Cle and Bos. Those games you talk about were inthe regular season, which as im sure you know is nothing like the post season.

Game 1 100-92 Rockets

Rockets Lead Series 1-0

by TexasHoosier on May 5, 2009 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Haha. Yeah Laker fans know.

Welcome to the show.

And my point was that the Lakers know how to man up against so called tough defensive teams now. Houston isn’t as good as either of those teams (Boston had KG in both games). All four games were playoff level intensity. So it does apply.

How Cleveland responds after their layoff doesn’t.

by wondahbap on May 5, 2009 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Playoff level intensity

and playoff games are different. The pressure is different, the crowds are different, the teams play differently. Youre right, Houstons d is not as good as Cleveland’s and Boston’s statistically. But recently the Rockets have been playing amazing defense.

Game 1 100-92 Rockets

Rockets Lead Series 1-0

by TexasHoosier on May 5, 2009 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Idea to keep Bynum in the game

Don’t start Bynum on defense on Yao, have Gasol guard Yao for a bit.

Gasol will be able to defend Yao (as best as he can) while staying out of foul trouble.

Bynum can stay on Scola.

This will enable Bynum to stay in the game for more minutes than he’s been getting.

by Gils_Keloids on May 5, 2009 11:12 AM PDT reply actions  

I think Bynum shuld come off the bench.

The offense is too out of sorts with him out there, and he keeps picking up two early fouls (even if they are cheap calls).

He’s still not the defensive presence we’d like him to be, so why let the offensive flow suffer?

by wondahbap on May 5, 2009 11:17 AM PDT reply actions  

I thought..

Bynum was one of the guys who was looking good on offense last night. If he hadn’t been in foul trouble he could have been a pretty solid game.

"I am from one of the top 15 cities in the world. Buffalo, New York." - TrentEdwardsHoF2018

by Artest4Prez on May 5, 2009 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

But the flow is different with him in the line-up.

It’s just not fluid, and that has nothing to do if he’s hitting his shot, or looking good on offense.

by wondahbap on May 5, 2009 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly

Also though, I thought we played better defense with Gasol on Yao anyways. Make the game faster and make it flow… like water. Like water in a lake. I’m getting the Bruce Lee quote about water in my head now.

by hertagnism on May 5, 2009 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not physical

This first game was not physical. It as as physical as any playoff game but not by any out of the norm type of physical type of game. I am sorry but Battier with a bloody head does not define this game as physical. Beside, I think before any fan of Houston pronounces themselves the winner of this series they have to realize that this is the first time they have been out of the first round so let’s take it one game at time. Just look at Blazer fans. Even before they got out of the first round their fans were in here talking about matchups and how they would be better fit to beat the Lakers. Yet, here we are and all they managed to do was to get eliminated in the first round.

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on May 5, 2009 12:29 PM PDT reply actions  

Thank you!

This game is on NBA tv right now. As I watch it again, I’m trying to see how anyone could call it a physical game. It wasn’t. We missed shots. Simple as that. I’m sure the Rockets played the passing lanes well, but missing wide open shots, or shots we normally take and make isn’t because of “physical” game or great defense.

The Rockets D wasn’t any different from the regular season games.

by wondahbap on May 5, 2009 12:45 PM PDT reply actions  

Whatever excuse you have to tell yourself.

I came into this series just happy to be in the second round. And while the lakers should be used to postseason play, they didn’t look ready to fight. I have no delusions of the rockets sweeping the lakers, but they better put their gameface on. There’s a reason for the nickname “clutch city”. Just dont underestimate the rockets.

by mutombo4life on May 5, 2009 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

No excuses at all

Again! The Rockets played better so they won yesterday. The Lakers shot poorly and just think if they would of shot at least 50% of their three’s which they normally do, we wouldn’t even be having this conversation. But the Lakers poor shooting had more to do with rust. So in the same way that we cannot underestimate the Rockets dont over estimate their defense. Which is exactly what I mean when I see you referring to your city as “clutch city”. That has overconfidence written all over it. Realistically that name doesn’t even fit the team.

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on May 5, 2009 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yall shot 44%

Thats not really poor shooting. Yes yall struggled in the beginning, but so did the Rockets. Yall had a chance to win in the 4th but the rockets wanted it more. The Rockets got more loose balls in the 4th and more important rebounds.

Game 1 100-92 Rockets

Rockets Lead Series 1-0

by TexasHoosier on May 5, 2009 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

For us it is.

You executed better and hit some big shots. We’ll give you that, but so far, that has been the exception. Not the rule.

Our shooting last night was the exception, not the rule.

Add those things up, and we like our chances.

by wondahbap on May 5, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

It is for yall

But not for Rockets opponents. The Rockets made the Lakers play Rockets basketball

Game 1 100-92 Rockets

Rockets Lead Series 1-0

by TexasHoosier on May 5, 2009 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Lakers shot 47.4% for the season

and 36.1% on three pointers.

And 48% and 41% on three pointers against the Rockets

by Gils_Keloids on May 5, 2009 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

And the Rockets held opponents to 44% shooting for the season

Thats what LA shot last night. Yeah you struggled shooting the 3, but so did the Rockets, albeit not as much though.

Game 1 100-92 Rockets

Rockets Lead Series 1-0

by TexasHoosier on May 5, 2009 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Against a Rockets team

that wasnt playing defense like they are now

Game 1 100-92 Rockets

Rockets Lead Series 1-0

by TexasHoosier on May 5, 2009 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ok that's it

I’m done till the end of tomorrow’s game.

I can only handle so much “It was us”, “No, it was us”, “No, really, it was us”, and now I’m tired.

In fact, I should wait until the end of the series to do a post mortem, but I don’t think I have that kind of restraint.

by Gils_Keloids on May 5, 2009 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dude....who are you?

And where did you come from? Please rewatch the game and understand that the Lakers played awful and still had the lead in the 4th. Houston played good enough to win that game but no where near good enough to come into a Lakers blog and talk about clutch city.

nobody is underestimating the Rockets…but you are overestimating them. You shouldn’t be surprised if LA wins the next 4.

by LVElephant on May 5, 2009 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I assume you were talking to me

And saying i shouldnt be surprised if LA wins the next four is overestimating LA and underestimating Houston. You are exactly right, Houston played good enough to win, but they were nowhere near perfect. The Lakers had a lead in the 4th, but blew it, at HOME. I thought Kobe was an amazing closer. Last night wasnt a fluke. This is still a series, and i wouldnt be surprised by either team winning it, and you shouldnt be either.

Game 1 100-92 Rockets

Rockets Lead Series 1-0

by TexasHoosier on May 5, 2009 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Okay with most of your points but...

To state that the Lakers had a lead in the 4th and “blew it at home” seems to imply we were in control of the game with a lead. Let’s face it, the Rockets were in control the entire time even with that 1-point “lead” the Lakers had and blew in the span of 24 seconds.

by hertagnism on May 5, 2009 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

maybe blow it was a little harsh

but they missed shots, let houston score, and houston got more of the loose balls and a few more important rebounds in the final 7 min.

Game 1 100-92 Rockets

Rockets Lead Series 1-0

by TexasHoosier on May 6, 2009 12:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Are you kidding me?

The Lakers are not likely to win 4 straight against Houston twice in one season. Not the way that Houston’s been playing recently. Ain’t going to happen.

by UHoustonFan on May 5, 2009 7:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Please read

Kobe only drove 7 times. Why else would Kobe only drive 7 times if it wasnt because of good defense?

Game 1 100-92 Rockets

Rockets Lead Series 1-0

by TexasHoosier on May 5, 2009 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because he likes jumpers, and taks too many sometimes.

If you watched the Lakers more than the 5 times they played the Rockets you would know this. Seven seems about right to me.

The defense last night wasn’t anything different from what we saw in the regular season.

by wondahbap on May 5, 2009 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Im sorry but thats embarassing for Kobe

and tells me that hes over the hill.

Kobe is one of the most explosive players in the league and youre tryin to tell me he doesnt like to drive anymore? Whenever he drove he got fouled or got a basket. I dont want him to drive, but i think that hurt yall alot last night. He need to drive to beat the Rockets because shooting jumpers is exactly what houston wants.

Game 1 100-92 Rockets

Rockets Lead Series 1-0

by TexasHoosier on May 5, 2009 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just one game...

..Kobe not driving to the basket in ONE game does not define how he or the Lakers will play the rest of the series or the playoffs for that matter.

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on May 5, 2009 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Excuses?

I’m not making excuses. I’m stating how it was, or wasn’t. And physical, it was not!

One win and your chest is all puffed out? One good 4th quarter in 5 games against us and now you’re “Clutch City” again? Funny.

by wondahbap on May 5, 2009 1:32 PM PDT reply actions  

GIVE ME A BREAK...

I will always welcome a debate from any fans. I think that simply because the Rockets won one miserable playoff game in the 2nd round all of a sudden Houston fans want to proclaim that Kobe is over the hill or that Houston is "clutch city". This is just one year out of the past several years in which the Houston Rockets have been successful and yet they are so called contenders. It was just one game! Any Houston fan should be proud of yesterday’s game. But give me a break, at least show some humility with that victory and stop trying to convince everyone in a Lakers blog that Houston is the better team because they won one game.

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on May 5, 2009 2:12 PM PDT reply actions  

First of all H-Town IS Clutch City

Not because of yesterday, but because THAT IS THE CITY’S NICKNAME. LA is the City of Angels, Houston is Clutch City, New York is the Big Apple, Portland is Rip City. Its a nicknam calm down.

LA has more talent, but Houston may be a better TEAM. Not saying they are, but last night they were. Kobe played like old Kobe last night and whether that was Houston’s defense making him do that, or his lack of confidence in his teammates to make a shot we will have to wait and see. It was one game but wondahbap pointed out that Kobe doesnt drive alot anymore.

Im not saying houston is going to win the series, but i think laker fans are still a little too overconfident. The four regular season games mean NOTHING at all. None of those games were played with the rosters these teams currently have, or the way these teams are currently playing. This is the second season were defense and team basketball win. The rockets played better defense and better team basketball and they won last night.

Game 1 100-92 Rockets

Rockets Lead Series 1-0

by TexasHoosier on May 5, 2009 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think that's the theory that is going to be tested in this series.
LA has more talent, but Houston may be a better TEAM.

I know that the Blazers have more talent than Houston, but Houston was the better team.

I’m not so sure you are incorrect about the Lakers.

Pontiff of the Pryz for Prez Posse...

by timbo on May 5, 2009 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, he thought the Blazers and Rockets

Would give the Lakers trouble before Game 1.

Nobody said it’d be easy. To win in six, you gotta lose two!

by Gils_Keloids on May 5, 2009 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Say what?
Kobe played like old Kobe last night and whether that was Houston’s defense making him do that, or his lack of confidence in his teammates to make a shot

Kobe kicked it out to the three point line to Ariza and Fisher time and again. How is that showing a lack of confidence in your teammates?

by Gils_Keloids on May 5, 2009 2:58 PM PDT reply actions  

32 shots

Mostly contested jumpers = lack of confidence in my mind

Game 1 100-92 Rockets

Rockets Lead Series 1-0

by TexasHoosier on May 5, 2009 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not necessarily true

let’s just agree to disagree.

If his teammates hit those shots, he still takes 32 shots, he just gets more assists.

by Gils_Keloids on May 5, 2009 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

You sound like some played out regurgitated ABC/ESPN story line.

Have an original thought. The “he played like old Kobe” is such a lame cliche. To the point that I can’t respect your opinion about the Lakers. Yawn. Kobe wasn’t gunning.

We know Houston is “Clutch City” but one game so far, doesn’t make you “clutch” again.

by wondahbap on May 5, 2009 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Look at the facts

when kobe shoots more than 24 times yall usually lose, when he shoots less than 24 times you win alot.

Kobe did shoot alot because his teammates werent making their shots. yesterday he played like the old kobe, but it wasnt totally his fault.

And please dont compare me to an ABC/ESPN story line cause i hate the amount of bias they show. Cliche or not, it was true

Game 1 100-92 Rockets

Rockets Lead Series 1-0

by TexasHoosier on May 5, 2009 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

See what I mean. Just a few months ago. It was "21 shots" that the bobbleheads were constatly babbling about.

Now you feel the need to jump on in with the “24” stat. How lame. You know why they jumped to 24. Because the Lakers were still winning when Kobe took 21 or more shits, so they had to raise the number.

So, you just proved my point. Nice job.

And if it wasn’t his “fault”, then you are saying he didn’t gun, so why do you bring it up?

Why am I still going back and forth with you?

by wondahbap on May 5, 2009 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ha ha, I've always said that if you can stop Kobe from shooting and get him shitting, you can beat the Lakers!!!
Because the Lakers were still winning when Kobe took 21 or more shits, so they had to raise the number.

Pontiff of the Pryz for Prez Posse...

by timbo on May 5, 2009 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am a man of science.

Pontiff of the Pryz for Prez Posse...

by timbo on May 5, 2009 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

By the way

In the last two years, when Kobe shoots 40 or more shots, the Lakers are undefeated.

by Gils_Keloids on May 5, 2009 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

What does that have to do with excrement?

Focus, man, focus!!!

Pontiff of the Pryz for Prez Posse...

by timbo on May 5, 2009 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

You need to look into Kobe’s diet.

by seanbergmanrules on May 5, 2009 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh man

You are a cliche.

Correlation does not equal causation.

If it rained every time the Rockets lost, you’d think the rain had something to do with it.

by Gils_Keloids on May 5, 2009 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Youre right

correlation does not = causation. But the correlation in this aspect is Kobe’s shooting and his teams winning. If there was no correlation i wouldnt have brought it up, but there was.

Game 1 100-92 Rockets

Rockets Lead Series 1-0

by TexasHoosier on May 5, 2009 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

You just couldn't help yourself. I knew it was coming from you. Your comments sound young..

Resorting to name calling is the ultimate sign of immaturity. What are you 15? 16?

I might disagree with TexasHoosier, but at least he’s debating me. Not resorting to pathetic juvenile taunts.

by wondahbap on May 5, 2009 3:40 PM PDT reply actions  

There is a whole lot of trash being talked here

Do you Rockets fans really want to open this can of worms? Don’t get too full of yourselves because the Rockets played a really great game while the Lakers played exceptionally poorly, cause you shouldn’t expect that to be the norm for the series. Why don’t you wait a game or two before declaring that the Rockets’ D is so impenetrable that the Lakers can’t do a thing against it? After all, the Lakers had little trouble with it in the other 4 meetings this season. One game is just that: one game.

The Lakers are still favored to win this series, so all the trash talking you’re doing is more than likely going to come back and bite you in the ass. Just a friendly suggestion to not get too puffed up just yet. If Houston wins the series, then by all means, come back and talk all you want; but it’s still quite possible the Lakers could win in 5. After all, it wouldn’t be the first time this year that LA had won 4 straight games against Houston.

by WildYams on May 5, 2009 3:43 PM PDT reply actions  

What can of worms?

I used superdouche because if i called him a cumdumpster i probably would have got banned. Talk all the trash you want to. that’s why we are americans and not french. It’s all in the name of sports. Don’t forget that we’re arguing over people who have never met us and probably don’t know that we exist. Do you think they argue on blog sites? Hell no! They have to figure out what to do with all their money and women. Get a thick skin. I have plenty of basketball knowledge and am not young. What 15 year old knows who kermit washington is? It’s all in jest, don’t forget.

by mutombo4life on May 5, 2009 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

You make no sense. Who questioned anyone rights as an American?

Who’s talking about athletes blogging? Who doesn’t have a thick skin? You can call me anything in the book. I don’t care. I just think you’re not too bright. That was my point.

So, you admit your older and still have to call people names like a child ho can’t make his point? And “superdouche” and “cumdumpster” are the best you could do?

by wondahbap on May 5, 2009 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well..

The Lakers played really poorly because Houston played very well.

A great defensive team FORCES the other team to get out of character, and FORCES them into places they don’t want to be. Sure, the Lakers may have been a little rusty, but against a lesser team they probably would have won. Houston took advantage and stole homecourt.

Kudos to them on a well played series opener.

by lalball81 on May 5, 2009 4:06 PM PDT reply actions  

This sounds like the same back and forth after Game 3 at Utah

No one believed it was the Lakers that lost it, not Utah that won it.

Hindsight will give more clarity.

Until then, we argue about who is right.

Too bad none of the Jazz fans who were adamant this was a sign the Jazz were going to take the Lakers to seven games never came back and admitted they were wrong.

by Gils_Keloids on May 5, 2009 4:30 PM PDT reply actions  

It was a really close game and Kobe and Pau had subpar games. Dunno, Rockets fans – I wouldn’t be so confident.

Pau was particularly crapstastic. He was unable to take advantage of the mismatch when Scola and Yao were on the bench, and instead the Rockets went on a run. At one point his teammates wouldn’t even pass Pau the ball on the post. I think I commented to timbo or Gis that it looked as if they’d lost their confidence on him. If Bynum, Odom and Pau can’t outplay (or at least match) Scola, Yao and Landry, then the Lakers are in for a long series. Or short.

But most likely long.

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Dunkin' Cheerleaders

by LatinD on May 5, 2009 6:30 PM PDT reply actions  

Kobe and Pau had subpar games

but so did Wafer and Scola. Both teams can play better than they did last night, but the lakers have more room for improvement.

Game 1 100-92 Rockets

Rockets Lead Series 1-0

by TexasHoosier on May 5, 2009 7:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm sorry but...

You can’t be serious for putting the importance of Wafer and Scola on the same level as Kobe and Pau’s. It really discredits your arguments.

Now if the Rockets won and got bad games from Yao or Artest, this argument would be different. But as it stands, the Rockets got great games from Yao and Artest and the Lakers got an average Kobe production. Both your guys had great games and ours went missing.

by hertagnism on May 5, 2009 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Obviously i wasnt saying Wafer and Scola

are as important as Kobe and Pau. Note how i said the lakers have more room to improve.

Game 1 100-92 Rockets

Rockets Lead Series 1-0

by TexasHoosier on May 6, 2009 1:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Okay,

but you can see how your arrangement of words could be misinterpreted that way. Just sayin.

by hertagnism on May 6, 2009 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry, but not really

unless you didnt read the whole comment or just read too quickly

Game 1 100-92 Rockets

Rockets Lead Series 1-0

by TexasHoosier on May 6, 2009 7:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes

Kobe teammates didn’t show up, they show up and give Kobe some help then all of a sudden game 1 looks completly different, I’ll give Houston credit they won and there are no excuses alive that can take that fact away, all I hope is for better effort from every Laker that steps on the floor tomorrow from beginning to end now lets see what everyone says after game 2.

by BrittneyM on May 5, 2009 8:10 PM PDT reply actions  

They should rename the Rockets the

Houston Vlade Divac’s

or the

Houston Anderson Varejao’s

for all the flopping and crying they do.

by adammoney on May 5, 2009 8:50 PM PDT reply actions  

Or maybe Yao Ming should change his name to Paul Pierce.

He also likes to act like a knee bruise is a Destroyed knee, only seconds later run out of the tunnel and into the game immediately.

by adammoney on May 5, 2009 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

HAHAHAHAHA

Nice try, but no. im sorry youre bitter you lost last night, but i dont remember seeing a flop. And you would probably cry too if you took a Kobe knee to your knee at full speed.

Game 1 100-92 Rockets

Rockets Lead Series 1-0

by TexasHoosier on May 5, 2009 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

bynums second foul…he barely touched yao and yao fell like a jenga

by adammoney on May 5, 2009 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

First of all H-Town IS Clutch City Not because of yesterday, but because THAT IS THE CITY’S NICKNAME. LA is the City of Angels, Houston is Clutch City, New York is the Big Apple, Portland is Rip City. Its a nicknam calm down.

LA has more talent, but Houston may be a better TEAM. Not saying they are, but last night they were. Kobe played like old Kobe last night and whether that was Houston’s defense making him do that, or his lack of confidence in his teammates to make a shot we will have to wait and see. It was one game but wondahbap pointed out that Kobe doesnt drive alot anymore.

Im not saying houston is going to win the series, but i think laker fans are still a little too overconfident. The four regular season games mean NOTHING at all. None of those games were played with the rosters these teams currently have, or the way these teams are currently playing. This is the second season were defense and team basketball win. The rockets played better defense and better team basketball and they won last night

In regards to “Clutch City” someone else NOT YOU used that so called nick name to use it as an example that Houston was going to win because they were more clutch than the Lakers.

Also, you stated that this is just one game but in the same sentence you said that Kobe doesn’t drive “anymore” dude! it was one game! “anymore” emplies that Kobe has changed his game for more than one game.

I think that Lakers fans DESERVE to be overconfident. That is what we are known for. Would you be if your team had been as succesfull in the post season like the Lakers organization has been? I appreciate your passion but you are in no position to be talking as if you Houston has been out of the first round in almost the last decade.

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on May 5, 2009 9:38 PM PDT reply actions  

I understand

No Laker fan will ever relate to any Houston fan. We are not familiar with what it’s like to not be out of the first round for such a long time. I mean for god’s sake even T mac proclaimed that he would love to play with Kobe. I can see how one victory against the goliath with the magnitude of a Laker team can make any opposing fan’s chest get all puffed up. I have seen those symptoms before. Just ask the Utah, Portland, and especially any Sac Queen’s fan. They all feel much better after they have defeated the Lakers. But, keep in mind that this victory signified just one thing. Just one victory but nothing else. You are not going to get a banner in your building after one victory. You are not going to raise the Larry O’brien trophy anytime soon. But if one victory helps you feel better today remember that if you are not a Laker fan that it is only temporary. The Lakers have been contenders and winners for years to come. Can you say the same thing about your beloved Rockets?

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on May 5, 2009 9:54 PM PDT reply actions  

Not recently enough

to make them boast as if they have been revelant in the last decade. Tradition? Yes! enought to inspire the type of confidence that a game victory should generate? hell no!

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on May 5, 2009 11:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE...

You made one good point in that long speech of yours. And that was that i didnt make the remark about “Clutch City.”

As for the rest of it…I cleary stated in my post, the one you copied onto yours, that “It was one game but wondahbap pointed out that Kobe doesnt drive alot anymore.” Therefore, it was not I that said Kobe doesnt drive anymore, it was the author of this post, whom im pretty sure is a Laker fan. But good job reading.

I have no idea why you think i think the Rockets are going to lift the trophy this season. I have never said that. Yeah im happy we won Monday because we did all we needed to do in LA. We now have homecout. The series is in our control. Also, previous years DO NOT MATTER. It doesnt matter that houston hadnt gotten out of the first round in 12 years. It doesnt matter that LA went to the Finals last year. This is sports, anything can happen, or like the NBA says, Where Amazing Happens. While im not saying that experience doesnt help, because it does, im saying that to rule out the Rockets becuase they havent had recent playoff success is stupid and arrogant.

Game 1 100-92 Rockets

Rockets Lead Series 1-0

by TexasHoosier on May 6, 2009 1:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

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