LIVE Finals Watch 2009: ECF Game 6
by Josh Tucker on May 30, 2009 5:38 PM PDT
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PrintWith nothing left but to wait, and no more Lakers games until their future opponent is determined, SS&R turns its focus on the Eastern Conference Finals. Tune in LIVE as we follow the ongoing battle in the East.
The 2009 Western Conference Champions hats and t-shirts lasted about as long as the official ceremony on Friday night. During the required trophy presentation, none of the Lakers seemed that thrilled or impressed with themselves for getting back to the Finals.
For the Lakers, it doesn't mean anything until they win the Finals – why is why the hats and t-shirts of ever player save Andrew Bynum were promptly removed after the ceremony.
This is as it should be. The Lakers' work is not over yet; in fact, some might say it is only not about to truly begin. The biggest question now, of course, is who they will will be doing that work against. Game 6 of the Eastern Conference Finals, where the Magic have a 3-2 lead and a chance to close out the series at home, could determine this.
We've talked at length about who we want to win the Eastern Conference Finals. Now that the Lakers have a guaranteed slot in the Finals, I put it to you slightly differently: Who do you want to play in the NBA Finals?
Of course, I know that there are different reasons to want one or the other. Even though one may be a more favorable matchup, some Lakers fans may want the harder matchup so that, when the Lakers win, critics will have no excuses to fall back on. So let's make this more specific, and pretend for a moment that "who you want" and "who would be the better/easier matchup" are the same thing (even if, for you, they're not).
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Fine.............forget my de-facto thread.
I guess we can use this CRAPPY one!!!!
Well, sir, you are a cowardly son of a bitch! You just shot an unarmed man!.......Well, he should have armed himself if he's going to decorate his saloon with my friend. – Will Munny
Where the hell is everybody.....
This game is important you know. I guess people have lives on a Saturday night. Except for you and me Intuitive.
Well, sir, you are a cowardly son of a bitch! You just shot an unarmed man!.......Well, he should have armed himself if he's going to decorate his saloon with my friend. – Will Munny
Yeah, I guess it is just you and me. Everyone else will probably show up to comment after the game. Pffft
bandwagon punks!!!!
Well, sir, you are a cowardly son of a bitch! You just shot an unarmed man!.......Well, he should have armed himself if he's going to decorate his saloon with my friend. – Will Munny
LOL
“and pretend for a moment that “who you want” and “who would be the better/easier matchup” are the same thing (even if, for you, they’re not)."
In other words you want us to answer the question EXACTLY as it was posed to you on the podcast??? Yeah I listened. Pretty good, you sound a little different than I expected though.
Well, sir, you are a cowardly son of a bitch! You just shot an unarmed man!.......Well, he should have armed himself if he's going to decorate his saloon with my friend. – Will Munny
Oh yeah, my answer.
I want the Cavs. Better matchup, and I want to beat Lebron and knock him off that un-earned throne. Screw home advantage. It just makes the victory that much sweeter.
Well, sir, you are a cowardly son of a bitch! You just shot an unarmed man!.......Well, he should have armed himself if he's going to decorate his saloon with my friend. – Will Munny
Other than "home advantage", I think Cavs are easier across the board.
Well, sir, you are a cowardly son of a bitch! You just shot an unarmed man!.......Well, he should have armed himself if he's going to decorate his saloon with my friend. – Will Munny
FYI only (unless it's a typo).
It’s heel, not heal. Actually when you tear it then it needs to heal so actually you may be right in a roundabout way.
Well, sir, you are a cowardly son of a bitch! You just shot an unarmed man!.......Well, he should have armed himself if he's going to decorate his saloon with my friend. – Will Munny
I think the Kobe jumping over the car one is my least favorite of the puppet commercials. Just because its short and no real humor.
Which is your favorite puppet commercials? Mine is a tie between the chalk and the 3 rings one. The new babysitting one is funny too
The jumping over the car one is not as funny, but visually is pretty cool.
My favorite one (humor wise) is the “unstoppableness” one. On another note have you seen the “chalk” one that someone edited to be about cocaine? Tasteless, but funny.
Well, sir, you are a cowardly son of a bitch! You just shot an unarmed man!.......Well, he should have armed himself if he's going to decorate his saloon with my friend. – Will Munny
Yes I did see that. Its a pretty good voice over or whatever they used. I do like the unstoppable one too. =) I like them all and the car one I probably like the least. I don’t understand the people that say they dont like the commercials…
I'm not saying they're the greatest thing ever, but..............
I think if you say you don’t like them you’re either a Kobe hater or a Lebron hater. In other words a fan of another team that thinks the NBA is a conspiracy. (Funny they never mention that the ads are for Nike and the NBA has little control over them).
Well, sir, you are a cowardly son of a bitch! You just shot an unarmed man!.......Well, he should have armed himself if he's going to decorate his saloon with my friend. – Will Munny
Yeah I hate when they say the NBA is hyping up the Lebron Kobe finals even though Nike or Vitamin Water is the ones producing the commercials.
The conspiracy theory doesn’t make much sense anyway….. because if there really was a conspiracy theory no way the Spurs would have won that many championships.
what is the point of those commercials other than amusement? i don’t see a specific product being advertised…
You aren't serious are you???
Well, sir, you are a cowardly son of a bitch! You just shot an unarmed man!.......Well, he should have armed himself if he's going to decorate his saloon with my friend. – Will Munny
Your poll should have had a neutral option. I don't think its that much different: Orlando a better team but Lakers have home court against them...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
hey Timbo, nice to see ya.....
chime in will ya. This is turning into a two man show.
Well, sir, you are a cowardly son of a bitch! You just shot an unarmed man!.......Well, he should have armed himself if he's going to decorate his saloon with my friend. – Will Munny
Oh, I was reading my own stuff... I just slammed the quotes out before I headed to work this morning...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
NO! YOU MUST CHOOSE!!
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by Josh Tucker on May 30, 2009 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions
How exactly did Cleveland win 66 games???
Is the rest of the East really THAT bad?
Well, sir, you are a cowardly son of a bitch! You just shot an unarmed man!.......Well, he should have armed himself if he's going to decorate his saloon with my friend. – Will Munny
They played well in the regular season… not so much in the playoffs. Guys that were contributing and making shots aren’t making shots anymore. Plus the Magic present a horrible matchup for them… I just want to see this “great” Cav’s defense everyone was gushing about.
"They played well in the regular season… not so much in the playoffs"
they dominated the first two rounds of the playoffs by not losing a single game….i think that contradicts your latter sentence. they are not playing as great against orlando, but i think they would play better in the finals, provided they make it that far. i still want the magic. james is too dangerous a player. orlando might have a better overall team, but they don’t have james.
But Orlando has Hedo, Dwight, and Lewis along with other guys that can make open shots and play pretty good defense while for the Cavaliers they only have Lebron. They dominated the first two rounds because their competition was not great. No matter what you say the Pistons and the Hawks just aren’t that good of a team.
Man Orlando really breaks down the Defense and opens up those 3 point shots don't they.
The difference between us and the Cavs is that we can keep up with them offensively cause you aren’t going to stop them from scoring.
Well, sir, you are a cowardly son of a bitch! You just shot an unarmed man!.......Well, he should have armed himself if he's going to decorate his saloon with my friend. – Will Munny
The offense Mike Brown is running is pretty bad. It’s basically here Lebron here’s the ball do something with it. All the players just stand around where they are and when Lebron passes them the ball they’re basically forced to shoot. None of the guys cut into the lane to get easy baskets and don’t move around much on offense.
So who is Tiger going to root for in the finals???
He lives in Orlando, but grew up in LA as a Laker fan.
Well, sir, you are a cowardly son of a bitch! You just shot an unarmed man!.......Well, he should have armed himself if he's going to decorate his saloon with my friend. – Will Munny
Actually I forgot...........
he is friends with Shaq. That pretty much answers that one.
Well, sir, you are a cowardly son of a bitch! You just shot an unarmed man!.......Well, he should have armed himself if he's going to decorate his saloon with my friend. – Will Munny
If we play the Magic I hope we don’t load up the strong side and leave guys wide open for 3 on the weak side, which is what our defense has been based on this season… They killed us during the regular season with that. Boy am I glad they don’t have Jameer because he killed us in the regular season..
Cavs are in the proverbial Deep Shit.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
In the conference finals...........
Kobe 93% free throws______2.2 TO per game.
Lebron 76% free throws______4.4 TO per game.
What is the definition of clutch again?
Well, sir, you are a cowardly son of a bitch! You just shot an unarmed man!.......Well, he should have armed himself if he's going to decorate his saloon with my friend. – Will Munny
Lebron is, ummm, unstoppable when he drives the lane. Every other skill in the game Mr. Kobe does better.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
18 points at the half and LBJ is crying...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
It's over.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
i don’t understand how people refer to kobe as the best “closer” in the game. they no longer refer to him as the best player. i think that is ridiculous. to me, the best closer is synonymous with the best player. at this point, i could care less who we play. fuck the cavs, fuck the magic. we will beat them both. this is our year. nothing is stopping us. the way kobe played against denver, and how he stepped up by being an active leader, makes him 2nd to none. let’s do this!
It doesn't matter what the talking heads call Kobe. All that matters is: if they pass like they passed last night, and make their shots like they made them last night, Lakers win.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
No, they're bad.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
lol… i wonder what adrian wojnarowski of yahoo sports is doing right now…probably shitting in his pants. he was cocky and certain the cavs would beat the magic…i’m not a magic fan, yet i took issue with his article before the series began—enough to email him criticizing him and saying the magic would win and make him look like an ass.
yup. that’s the lakers team i remember from the regular season. if we play like that, no one can beat us….hey can anyone drop a link to the stats from the two lakers vs magic games this season? from what i recall, the lakers played as good as they could and still lost on both occasions.
Correct me if I’m wrong but in the Orlando game. The first game it came down to the very end and our shot went in and out. The other game we had a 14 point lead at the half and at the start of the 3rd Jameer went crazy and hit like 3 3’s in a row.
yeah, I wasn't going to comment on that one, but.......
I thought we played like crap both times.
Well, sir, you are a cowardly son of a bitch! You just shot an unarmed man!.......Well, he should have armed himself if he's going to decorate his saloon with my friend. – Will Munny
Wasn’t it Sasha’s 3 that went in and out?
I remember that because it was right after the Miami game in which the same thing happened except it was Kobes shot that went in and out.
can’t remember EDITORS and/or MODERATORS give us the links to the lakers vs magic stats from thsi season. thanks!
the magic cannot take it to the whole. only turko can. they live and die by the 3. the lakers will have to come up with a scheme to make them die.
Who do I want? No preference.
The Lakers are in the Finals so whoever it is…….let’s go.
GO BRONCOS IN 2009 AND BEYOND!!
Lakers beat Nuggets 4-2. NBA Finals June 4th.
The Magic do scare me though.
I
GO BRONCOS IN 2009 AND BEYOND!!
Lakers beat Nuggets 4-2. NBA Finals June 4th.
Magic are clearly a better team.
I’m pretty sure the Blazers beat them down there this season, so it can be done.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Well another tough series lying in wait.
GO BRONCOS IN 2009 AND BEYOND!!
Lakers beat Nuggets 4-2. NBA Finals June 4th.
Just checked -- Blazers won by 7 down there, but it was early in the season...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Since the Blazers and Lakers are equal teams this year, Lakers have a chance, ha ha.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
sarcasm detector is on the fritz.....
needs new batteries.
Well, sir, you are a cowardly son of a bitch! You just shot an unarmed man!.......Well, he should have armed himself if he's going to decorate his saloon with my friend. – Will Munny
nuh-huh!!!
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
I would have liked to see PDX v. LAL. I think that turned out Lakers in 7, but it was close enough that it would have held very great interest...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
shouldn't it be PDX vs. LAX??
Well, sir, you are a cowardly son of a bitch! You just shot an unarmed man!.......Well, he should have armed himself if he's going to decorate his saloon with my friend. – Will Munny
Not sure LAX is such a good name... What would you be calling former members of the team?
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
very funny.
Well, sir, you are a cowardly son of a bitch! You just shot an unarmed man!.......Well, he should have armed himself if he's going to decorate his saloon with my friend. – Will Munny
good point. Leave the X off
GO BRONCOS IN 2009 AND BEYOND!!
Lakers beat Nuggets 4-2. NBA Finals June 4th.
i can’t believe this blog didn’t even exist a couple of months ago. a championship team, and no blog….well i’m glad it was created.
I said the same thing months ago.
I was like, no Lakers on SB Nation. Glad to have it and at the right time.
GO BRONCOS IN 2009 AND BEYOND!!
Lakers beat Nuggets 4-2. NBA Finals June 4th.
Well I wouldn't say NO blog. There are lots of Laker blogs.
however, this one ROCKS. Go Lakers.
(pay no attention to the Josh ass kissing behind the curtain)
Well, sir, you are a cowardly son of a bitch! You just shot an unarmed man!.......Well, he should have armed himself if he's going to decorate his saloon with my friend. – Will Munny
What can we do to get the word out about Silver Screen and Roll?
Some other blogs (most of them suck) have a lot of followers. OK the blogs don’t necessarily suck, but the formats aren’t as good as this one.
Well, sir, you are a cowardly son of a bitch! You just shot an unarmed man!.......Well, he should have armed himself if he's going to decorate his saloon with my friend. – Will Munny
Hmm, I wonder what they're going to do with all those Nike/Vitamin Water commercials
Think they’ll come up with a Dwight/Pau spot?
Bork bork bork!
by Avinash Kunnath on May 30, 2009 6:53 PM PDT reply actions
Haha, Drew's not at that stage yet
Bork bork bork!
by Avinash Kunnath on May 30, 2009 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I have never seen so many comments
From so little people.
Good work!
I hope the Magic don’t start playing prevent ball.
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
Hey fuck you..
“From so little people.”
I am 6’-1".
Oh wait, I may have misunderstood that one….
Well, sir, you are a cowardly son of a bitch! You just shot an unarmed man!.......Well, he should have armed himself if he's going to decorate his saloon with my friend. – Will Munny
he knows I am kidding.
Well, sir, you are a cowardly son of a bitch! You just shot an unarmed man!.......Well, he should have armed himself if he's going to decorate his saloon with my friend. – Will Munny
Yes
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
by Gils_Keloids on May 30, 2009 7:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, it sounds exactly like D Howard's impersonation of him.
Well, sir, you are a cowardly son of a bitch! You just shot an unarmed man!.......Well, he should have armed himself if he's going to decorate his saloon with my friend. – Will Munny
Pat Riley screwed him royally
By taking over that Miami Heat team
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
by Gils_Keloids on May 30, 2009 7:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Totally man
I heard he’s called the Magic GM, asking if he can coach the Magic if they make it to the Finals
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
by Gils_Keloids on May 30, 2009 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions
What the hell?
LeBron owes us Lakers fans a chance for Kobe to hand his ass to him.
Wonder if Bill Simmons will give us one of his half assed rants about how both his Celtics and LeBron ducked us this year, like he thinks the Lakers ducked the C’s in ’85.
C’mon LeBron. kobe has a legacy to fulfill on you.
Who's next?
it will teach people not to compare two starts who are incomparable. james has no rings. end of story. i will acknowledge the day that lebron clearly becomes the best player in the game. i don’t think that has happened yet. i used to say garnett was the best player in the league. kobe surpassed him. back in the day of course.
This is key for me -- comparing players of different positions is dumb.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
So........... Dwight Howard or Chris Paul....... Who is better?
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Duh.
Assists > points and rebounds…….Paul.
Well, sir, you are a cowardly son of a bitch! You just shot an unarmed man!.......Well, he should have armed himself if he's going to decorate his saloon with my friend. – Will Munny
There was a time you said that?
KG, who never dominated? I don’t care how good KG is/was. I’ll always feel he should’ve been better.
Who's next?
Yeah how could you think KG, the superstar role player was the best?
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
by Gils_Keloids on May 30, 2009 7:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I can not stand that guy.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
And during the season, 4,000 viewings of the Humble Kevin Garnett NBA promo on NBA League Pass BB did not help...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
OH. DEAR. GOD.
I hated that commercial. It was my unwavering policy to immediately mute, every time it came one. I also wear green about as often as Machine.
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by Josh Tucker on May 30, 2009 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't mind
I really don’t mind who the Lakers play, as long as they win.
And a small part of me enjoys seeing Lebron lose, to anyone, but it’s only to see the excuses they will make for him that "they’ never made for Kobe.
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
by Gils_Keloids on May 30, 2009 7:04 PM PDT up reply actions
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I can see it now. They’ll whine about how his $90+ mill team is a bunch of scrubs. Blah, blah, blah…
Who's next?
Yeah, I was surprised how much money they are dishing out on that team...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
But none of that is supposed to matter,
because LBJ is supposed to be that dude.
the one who will be better than MJ.
Save the excuses.
Who's next?
Well if there really is a League conspiracy to get Kobe vs. Lebron finals....
We will see some REALLY bad officiating now.
Well, sir, you are a cowardly son of a bitch! You just shot an unarmed man!.......Well, he should have armed himself if he's going to decorate his saloon with my friend. – Will Munny
I strongly recommend covering Mo Williams in the corner. But that's just me.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
8-1 run to open the 2nd half. Not so good.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Wow, that didn't take long.
Geez 11 points now.
Well, sir, you are a cowardly son of a bitch! You just shot an unarmed man!.......Well, he should have armed himself if he's going to decorate his saloon with my friend. – Will Munny
I'm loving this..................
I really want to see the Cavs.
Well, sir, you are a cowardly son of a bitch! You just shot an unarmed man!.......Well, he should have armed himself if he's going to decorate his saloon with my friend. – Will Munny
lebron james isn’t human. he was genetically engineered in an underground science lab. he is a clone.
Who was he cloned from?
Or is it whom, whatever
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
by Gils_Keloids on May 30, 2009 7:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I was thinking...............
Dominique and Karl Malone
Well, sir, you are a cowardly son of a bitch! You just shot an unarmed man!.......Well, he should have armed himself if he's going to decorate his saloon with my friend. – Will Munny
Whom
Yeah, I’m that asshole.
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by Josh Tucker on May 30, 2009 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Cracked me up that Blazer's Edge Rules
say that correcting someone’s grammar will get you banned. unless that was a joke.
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
by Gils_Keloids on May 30, 2009 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions
To answer Josh's question
I want the Cavs because they are easier to get by, their bench is a big question mark and it’s a one man show at times so give Lakers the Cavs………HOWEVER Cavs are in trouble in this 3rd quarter but are slowly coming back due to quick 3 pointers by Orlando.
Looking at the box scores for the regular season games against Orlando.. Jameer Nelson absolutely killed us.
The first game:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/boxscore;ylt=Ald7YuOMPEA2DxCF6o1riuQvLYF?gid=2008122019
The second game:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/boxscore;_ylt=ApE1wbF5nv6hU1sVCryWPJyQvLYF?gid=2009011613
Sorry about that this should work
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/boxscore;ylt=Ald7YuOMPEA2DxCF6o1riuQvLYF?gid=2008122019
judging by the stats gasol didn’t play well in both games. kobe shot poorly both games. jameer nelson killed us both games. good think he’s gone. our experience will be too much for them. they are deeper than the cavs, but inexperienced not as deep as us.
i hate it too. it puts ridiculous pressure on the home team to win the first two games. and ditto for the visiting team once they go back home. it’s terrible. it ought to be changed.
One up side
Regardless of whether the Lakers win in 6 or 7, they’ll do it on their home court.
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by Josh Tucker on May 30, 2009 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Orlando plays pretty decent D.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Delonte West looks like a prison lifer...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
I'm back. Had to beat up my dog. It's so hot that it was like beating up a furry bag of jello -- not much of a challenge...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Golden retriever...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
these blogs actually are starting to get a little national attention. the buffalo bills’ blog was mentioned on espn’s website…likewise, the a quote from someone in the magic’s sbnation blog, thirdquartercollapse.com, was aired on espn’s sportscenter.
Here's my dog, just took this with the crap built in camera on my computer...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
chocolate lab here myself.
Well, sir, you are a cowardly son of a bitch! You just shot an unarmed man!.......Well, he should have armed himself if he's going to decorate his saloon with my friend. – Will Munny
You do !the link of the picture!
The exclamation mark before the picture link and then an exclamation mark after.
Oh, good lord, that looks like a golden puppy. I am SO SORRY!!!!!!!
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Bingo Bill is 5-1/2. I've had him since he was 8 mos. (third owner -- which PROVES golden puppies are nightmarish...)
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Dogs are cute from a distance but when you live with 3 like me, you start looking to move
My mom and brother have a 3 dogs running around here messing things up, they are cute but they are too busy
WHAT-WHAT-WHAT?!?!?!?
That is sadistic.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
So I know this sounds crazy and overly simplistic,but....
Why can’t we play Orlando 1 on 1 with no doubling, strong side zone, etc…. It takes away the 3 completely and Orlando doesn’t have one player that can blow by any of our guys. Basically all they have is Howard over Bynum. I admit this is a big advantage, but if you keep him from dunking he is mediocre.
Well, sir, you are a cowardly son of a bitch! You just shot an unarmed man!.......Well, he should have armed himself if he's going to decorate his saloon with my friend. – Will Munny
I would definitely NOT double Dwight. It opens their 3 point shooters, which is where they live...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Let Courtney Lee fire away.
Kobe might do some good roamer damage in this series.
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
LOL
Nice dog pic. I live in Palm Springs so the wood stove in the background is something I haven’t seen in years.
Well, sir, you are a cowardly son of a bitch! You just shot an unarmed man!.......Well, he should have armed himself if he's going to decorate his saloon with my friend. – Will Munny
Yeah, that's a bitchin' old dirty 1970s monstrosity...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
If I ever sell my house, that comes with me...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Cleveland is a terrible defensive team.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
End of 3rd Q = Same margin as halftime...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
19 at half, 16 at 3rd
Bork bork bork!
by Avinash Kunnath on May 30, 2009 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Orlando will probably open up the quarter with a 3 and then bring it back to the same margin as halftime.
Oops.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Well, it's 16 at the 4:40 mark, you get the point...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Guess it's my turn.
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Well, sir, you are a cowardly son of a bitch! You just shot an unarmed man!.......Well, he should have armed himself if he's going to decorate his saloon with my friend. – Will Munny
OK you can see his penis right there..........
Now he is embarassed…..thanks.
Well, sir, you are a cowardly son of a bitch! You just shot an unarmed man!.......Well, he should have armed himself if he's going to decorate his saloon with my friend. – Will Munny
8 yr old male.
old pic though.
Well, sir, you are a cowardly son of a bitch! You just shot an unarmed man!.......Well, he should have armed himself if he's going to decorate his saloon with my friend. – Will Munny
we bred him once with a black female.
got 11 puppies all healthy. 2 black, 9 chocolate.
I almost said black bitch, but I thought that sounded racist.
Well, sir, you are a cowardly son of a bitch! You just shot an unarmed man!.......Well, he should have armed himself if he's going to decorate his saloon with my friend. – Will Munny
pets mart in Rancho Mirage, CA.
Well, sir, you are a cowardly son of a bitch! You just shot an unarmed man!.......Well, he should have armed himself if he's going to decorate his saloon with my friend. – Will Munny
the black pit-bull mix in the background is mine too.
at least she was before she ran away :-(
Well, sir, you are a cowardly son of a bitch! You just shot an unarmed man!.......Well, he should have armed himself if he's going to decorate his saloon with my friend. – Will Munny
Has anyone blown a 16 point lead in the 4th quarter in the playoffs
At home?
Bork bork bork!
by Avinash Kunnath on May 30, 2009 7:33 PM PDT reply actions
Gotta go eat, chow now!
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
The Cavs should have had more balance play earlier in the series.
I mean all of the Cavs 3 losses, Lebron scored 40+ points.
GO BRONCOS IN 2009 AND BEYOND!!
Lakers beat Nuggets 4-2. NBA Finals June 4th.
Yeap their whole team revolves too much around Lebron instead of the whole team making plays and actually doing things besides taking shots. It’s not a knack on Lebron, but Mike Brown hasn’t done a good enough job making everything about the team instead more about Lebron.
Here’s a good comment on FB&G.
I was just watching the pre-game show for tonight’s Cavs-Magic game, and of course they have an interview with Mo Williams there. Strangely, most of the questions seem to be about how great and amazing Lebron is, and very few are actually about Mo. I thought that was weird.
And then something occurred to me as I was listening to Mo’s answers: He completely agrees with the hype. He talks about Lebron the way I talk about Kobe… He sounds like a devoted fan-boy!
All Mo’s answers to questions about Lebron were all about "he’s real, he’s the real deal" we have to get him the ball more often", and about how everything on their team is about their biggest star. According to Mo, the most important question after each game should be "did we go to him enough?"
Mo Williams in the second guy on the Cavs, an all-star in his own right, and he is as completely in awe of The Chosen One as the most rabid Cavs fans are?
As I said, please bear with me, this will lead back to the Lakers.
Remember recent interviews with Pau Gasol and Lamar Odom, with Trevor Ariza and Luke Walton? Pau wants the ball, in fact, he calls out his team mates for not giving it to him more often because "we have to go with what works". Trevor Ariza and Luke Walton talks about spacing the floor and making 3-point shots, to give us multiple scoring options, because we want to punish our opponents for doubling or tripling Kobe. Lamar Odom says in pretty much every interview that he knows he has to show up ready to play and play hard, that he knows the team needs him to do his part.
So when Mo Williams talks about Lebron, he sounds like a fan in awe of the amazing talent of a generation. When various Laker players talk about Kobe, their answers are centered on team work, how to contribute along side Kobe, and what the team as a whole needs to do. In other words, they don’t sound like devoted fans at all, but a lot more like team mates, working together to defeat a common enemy.
Here it finally is, my question: Assuming the Cavs win their series, how will this difference in mentality and mindset from the role players and second and third bananas on the respective teams affect them going into the Finals? Or am I just reading way too much into one single interview and it won’t matter in the end? What do you think?
Like I said, that interview was fascinating to watch, and I would love to hear your thoughts on it.
NIce comments.
He gets help they will be a better team. Oh and where did their defense go in this series?
GO BRONCOS IN 2009 AND BEYOND!!
Lakers beat Nuggets 4-2. NBA Finals June 4th.
Looks like Orlando really wants to meet the Lakers
They are putting a beating on the Cavs and Lebron hasn’t taken over, he looks tired out to me
It's going to be a fun NBA Finals
For everyone but Stern.
Bork bork bork!
by Avinash Kunnath on May 30, 2009 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions
If Boston holds on in Game 6
Cleve
Bork bork bork!
by Avinash Kunnath on May 30, 2009 7:38 PM PDT reply actions
Bleh
*Cleveland must be pissed at the Cs for giving them Orlando.
Bork bork bork!
by Avinash Kunnath on May 30, 2009 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
Well, sir, you are a cowardly son of a bitch! You just shot an unarmed man!.......Well, he should have armed himself if he's going to decorate his saloon with my friend. – Will Munny
LOL, Tiger got that ball....
It always amazes me to think that he has more money than all 10 NBA players on the court combined. Amazing.
Well, sir, you are a cowardly son of a bitch! You just shot an unarmed man!.......Well, he should have armed himself if he's going to decorate his saloon with my friend. – Will Munny
LOL
That’s like saying “The Germans are coming with 100 tanks……………and 2 squirt guns”.
Well, sir, you are a cowardly son of a bitch! You just shot an unarmed man!.......Well, he should have armed himself if he's going to decorate his saloon with my friend. – Will Munny
Wonder who Tiger will cheer for in Finals
Should be the Lakers
Born in LB, grew up in Cypress
Nick Adenhart - 1986 - 2009 R.I.P.
I mentioned that earlier, but...........
he is a friend of Shaq’s and basically hasn’t rooted for the Lakers since he left.
Well, sir, you are a cowardly son of a bitch! You just shot an unarmed man!.......Well, he should have armed himself if he's going to decorate his saloon with my friend. – Will Munny
Haha
Will Shaq show up in the Laker crowd in the Finals? Wonder who he’d root for.
Bork bork bork!
by Avinash Kunnath on May 30, 2009 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I would think Tiger and Kobe would get along well
kind of kindred spirits in a way. Tiger just HAS to cheer for the Lakers, he was a child and teen through the Showtime years while growing up here, if not I will like him a lot less
Nick Adenhart - 1986 - 2009 R.I.P.
and just to prove all of Hollingers formulas are BS and should be taken with a grain of salt.
In his “rankings” he had Cavaliers at #1 through some mathematical formula. He got a lot of grief over it in the regular season but he adamantly said it was legit because the past 2/3 years the team at the end of the regular season who ended up #1 went on to win the championship. Not happening this year Hollinger and your formulas are crap.
LOL
always hit “preview” with a picture.
Well, sir, you are a cowardly son of a bitch! You just shot an unarmed man!.......Well, he should have armed himself if he's going to decorate his saloon with my friend. – Will Munny
! must go in front of entire thing and after it as well.
Well, sir, you are a cowardly son of a bitch! You just shot an unarmed man!.......Well, he should have armed himself if he's going to decorate his saloon with my friend. – Will Munny
there we go
shepherd mix?
Well, sir, you are a cowardly son of a bitch! You just shot an unarmed man!.......Well, he should have armed himself if he's going to decorate his saloon with my friend. – Will Munny
That looks like a Good Dog.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
I told Josh before the playoffs started, when he was a believer in "Flip the Switch"...
…………….. that is was mathematically a coin toss for the Lakers to make the finals, even if they were big favorites in all 3 series, just because 0.95 * 0.75 * 0.70 or whatever = about 50%.
The same was true for Cleveland.
Heads, the Lakers won.
Tails, Cleveland lost…
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Coin flip analogy
Doesn’t work when Kobe Bryant is involved, I have found.
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
by Gils_Keloids on May 30, 2009 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, that's bull
This wasn’t about odds. Here’s what this was about:
- It was about LA being better than Cleveland.
- It was about the Lakers peaking and the Cavs falling apart.
- It was about LeBron’s 5 missed free throws in the 4th of one loss, 7 turnovers in the 4th and OT of another loss – compared to what we all saw Kobe do to Denver, especially whenever the game was close.
- It was about the fact that when the going wasn’t that tough, Cleveland appeared better, but that was just superficial appearance – when things got tough, the Lakers had more to draw from, better composure, and they were on the up, instead of the down.
- It was about LeBron and his teammates having a jolly good time, taking imaginary photos and talking about how much they love each other, but in the end, the Lakers having better teamwork, a tougher mentality, and being better prepared – take note, LeBron, because THAT is leadership.
Coin tosses are for random events. This was anything but random. This was about one very good team getting better, playing its best ball when it needed to, and winning as we expected them to – and one pretty good team proving that they didn’t have what it took to get to that level.
Period.
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by Josh Tucker on May 30, 2009 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
+1
Esp. your last bullet. I remember reading a Bill Simmons piece that praised the Cavs “teamwork” in contrast to the Lakers’ “fake teamwork”. All we can say is: peep me now, bit*h".
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
I forgot
I’ve been saying I don’t care who the Lakers play, but I just realized that I misspoke.
I want the Lakers to play Orlando, not for any matchup reasons, but solely because the Lakers will have homecourt advantage against the Magic.
King Shames.
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
Not just homecourt advantage – homecourt FINISH
Assuming the Magic don’t roll over and let the Lakers win this in 5 games or less, a Lakers win in 6 or 7 happens in front of their fans. When they win, I’m going to be lovin’ that.
Strength & Honor
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by Josh Tucker on May 30, 2009 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Foul 5 on Sideshow Bob...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Now that's a Good Dog for sure!
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
now that's a good looking dog!!!
Well, sir, you are a cowardly son of a bitch! You just shot an unarmed man!.......Well, he should have armed himself if he's going to decorate his saloon with my friend. – Will Munny
Marv: "Dwight Howard has been unstoppable..."
He will be enjoined from using that phrase by Nike shortly…
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
And he would like to thank All the Little People for making his MVP possible...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
I wonder if I still have a copy of that Lou Reed album...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
"Take No Prisoners" -- dirty and funny live record...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
He also referred to himself in the third person in his pregame with Sager
Ugh.
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
by Gils_Keloids on May 30, 2009 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm VERY interested to see Orlando's reaction to the post game hoopla
…if they are subdued and determined, as the Lakers looked last night, then look out
I got to think they’ll be very jubilant in front of their home fans
Nick Adenhart - 1986 - 2009 R.I.P.
Well, we have 2 Game 6 blowouts leading to the Finals...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Well it is on I hope Bynum is ready because Dwight is a tough cover for any of our Lakers
But one thing I do like Lakers will attack Howard back and the more foul he has the better
Birdman's dog???
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
we think alike.
Well, sir, you are a cowardly son of a bitch! You just shot an unarmed man!.......Well, he should have armed himself if he's going to decorate his saloon with my friend. – Will Munny
Is that JR Smith???
Well, sir, you are a cowardly son of a bitch! You just shot an unarmed man!.......Well, he should have armed himself if he's going to decorate his saloon with my friend. – Will Munny
Nuggs need to pick up Delonte West!!!
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
This is an amazing suggestion for the new commercial. Off of FB&G again.
Intro: Interior of Kobe and Lebron’s apartment, empty
Shot of the front door as sounds of keys entering the lock.
Enter Lebron Muppet, calling "Kobe, I’m home." He waits for a response for a second before looking around.
Montage of Lebron muppet wandering through the apartment calling Kobe’s name.
Finally Lebron sees a note on the table.
Close up of note, "Lebron- Gone to NBA finals, back in 2 weeks. -Kobe"
Lebron muppet hangs his head sadly. Fade out.
I was showing those commercials to my wife the other night and she asked me if they really lived together...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
That would make a hell of a reality show!
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
that is noice, as Stu would say
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
by Gils_Keloids on May 30, 2009 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions
My suggestion has been
To have a disheveled Lebron Puppet in a robe eating potato chips on the couch, watching his roomate’s unstoppable unstoppableness on TV.
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
by Gils_Keloids on May 30, 2009 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions
We need a thread for commercial ideas
Lebron could have a “roommate wanted” ad, and end up rooming with Carmelo
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
by Gils_Keloids on May 30, 2009 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Cleveland Sports Sob Story once again
45 years sans a title, I’m sure Cleveland will get one in the next couple years from the Cavs, of course unless LeBron signs elsewhere or the Browns become good all of a sudden, lol
Nick Adenhart - 1986 - 2009 R.I.P.
Condolences to Phil Knight, who stood to make a million billion dollars if it was LAL/CLE...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
I think he'll still be fine
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
by Gils_Keloids on May 30, 2009 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions
I have seen his Jet up close..............he's doing just fine.
BTW the tail numbers on his plane……………………N I K E.
Must be nice.
Well, sir, you are a cowardly son of a bitch! You just shot an unarmed man!.......Well, he should have armed himself if he's going to decorate his saloon with my friend. – Will Munny
here you go
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Well, sir, you are a cowardly son of a bitch! You just shot an unarmed man!.......Well, he should have armed himself if he's going to decorate his saloon with my friend. – Will Munny
CAN WE PUT AN END TO THE CONSPIRACY THEORIES NOW?
probably not. but we should.
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
I present to you the "Disney" conspiracy theory that have started catching on
and is popping up in Cleveland blogs.
No worries, The Agency is on the case...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Lakers had James Worthy present them the Western Conference trophy
Who are the Magic going to have?
Terry Catledge, Dennis Scott, Nick Anderson, Reggie Theus?
Nick Adenhart - 1986 - 2009 R.I.P.
M.I.C.K.E.Y. M.O.U.S.E.
Well, sir, you are a cowardly son of a bitch! You just shot an unarmed man!.......Well, he should have armed himself if he's going to decorate his saloon with my friend. – Will Munny
Yes, remarkably better.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Crowd is singing...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
The Blazers fans have taken to doing "The Wave" in blowouts...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
pppfth
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
by Gils_Keloids on May 30, 2009 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions
+1
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by Josh Tucker on May 30, 2009 11:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Kobe has already found eleven weaknesses in the Magic's defense
He’s doin work.
Actually, the Lakers should focus on their own defense.
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
Don't forget the Finals are 2-3-2 format.
GO BRONCOS IN 2009 AND BEYOND!!
Lakers v. Magic. NBA Finals June 4th.
I know it's almost better to not have homecourt in the Finals.
Why the league switches for just the Finals, I just don’t know.
GO BRONCOS IN 2009 AND BEYOND!!
Lakers v. Magic. NBA Finals June 4th.
are you serious?
The 2-3-2 format favors the home team much more than the 2-2-1-1-1 does.
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
Please explain
I can’t decide on this. Very difficult to string together 3 wins. Much easier to get a couple here, another there. BUT… by Game 5, which is often a pivotal game, the away team has played 3 home games to the home team’s 2. If everybody holds serve, the away team winds up 3-2 going into the 6th game, which to me is no small thing.
So, I’d like to hear how you feel so definitively that this favors the home team.
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by Josh Tucker on May 31, 2009 12:36 AM PDT up reply actions
This has happened only twice in the 2-3-2 format (the home team winning the middle 3)
In 2004 & 2006. So it definitely provides perks to the team with homecourt.
Bork bork bork!
by Avinash Kunnath on May 31, 2009 12:39 AM PDT up reply actions
I just think of it this way:
The 2-3-2 format is more favorable to the home team than the 2-2-1-1-1 format. First of all, the obvious: Winning three games in a row on your homecourt is easier than winning only two in a row. If an away team loses any one of these games, it becomes much harder to win the series (same is true for 22111 series).
In the end, I think the biggest difference is game six ANd seven. Both games, if necessary, occur on the court belonging to the team with the best record. What does this mean? For the visiting team to win the series, they have to steal one of their two away games (1 or 2) and then proceed to defend their homecourt against a CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP team for three games in a row. Either that or win an elimination game on the road against a CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP team. Both daunting roads to the finals.
Orlando is probably not worried about the 2-3-2 format because they are a good road team. This series may go seven. It’s critical that the Lakers win in Orlando.
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
when i say winning 3 in a row on your homecourt is easier, I really mean harder
Also, if the Lakers don’t win it is sort of a disgrace. Not going to lie.
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
Well this was a repeat of the Laker game last night
NBA Finals Game 1 Thurs. June 4th
LET’S GO!
GO BRONCOS IN 2009 AND BEYOND!!
Lakers v. Magic. NBA Finals June 4th.
Well, the two best teams are playing, which is good. And the Lakers have the home court advantage, which is REALLY GOOD.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Yes! That's the Timbo I know! Home court, babeeee!
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
by Gils_Keloids on May 30, 2009 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Josh definitely concurs with me, nudge nudge, wink wink...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Jeff might have to go on vacation
There’s no way he can be unbiased.
Bork bork bork!
by Avinash Kunnath on May 30, 2009 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions
He says he was dreading the Magic getting into the Finals because announcing about his brother makes him nervous
If anything, I'd expect more pro-Lakers commentating from him, and a harsher perspective on his brother
Merely because he’ll be overcompensating for his perceived bias.
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by Josh Tucker on May 31, 2009 12:37 AM PDT up reply actions
why didn’t doug collins call game 6 of the magic game? instead, reggie miller did. is it because he said he wanted to see lakers vs cavs while on the air during a cavs vs. magic, i think it was game 4 or 3….
I'll take the Lakers over Magic in 6
I said in 7 before but if the Lakers do what they did to Denver, the Lakers will win in 6
Quick and dirty NBA finals breakdown
C: Dwight >>> Andrew
F: Pau > Hedo
F: Trevor = Rashard
G: Kobe >>> Lee
G: Fish < Alston
Benches: Lakers have a slightly better bench I think
Coach: Phil over Master of Panic
Intangibles: Lakers
Home Court: Lakers
Verdict: Lakers in 6
Nick Adenhart - 1986 - 2009 R.I.P.
I think the call of Lakers in 6 is right.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
I just think Lamar is the difference
Please god, I hope he shows up like he did the last couple games
Nick Adenhart - 1986 - 2009 R.I.P.
I agree with this also.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
It is hard to compare Pau with Turkoglu also.
Could be a 7 game series, come to think of it.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Yes, I agree - matching them up straight up is kind of hard to do
Nick Adenhart - 1986 - 2009 R.I.P.
How is Pau going to guard Rashard?
Plus, Bynum will probably get in foul trouble, so you’ll see a Odom-Gasol frontcourt, with Gasol guarding Howard.
proud hinrichsheeple
Yeah good points
Gasol on Dwight is not good. Lamar is sooooo key to this series, it’s not even funny.
Nick Adenhart - 1986 - 2009 R.I.P.
Can Pau guard Hedo? Who guarded Hedo in the reg season?
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
by Gils_Keloids on May 30, 2009 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm pretty sure that Timbo's Rule held up perfectly through the playoffs...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
did anyone else notice
lebron just walked off the court without congradulating anyone, while many team mates, including ben wallace, shook everyones hand?
classy lbj, classy
Blind devotion.
by ProfessorBigelow on May 30, 2009 8:14 PM PDT reply actions
Really? I missed that.
If so then that is pathetic and classless.
GO BRONCOS IN 2009 AND BEYOND!!
Lakers v. Magic. NBA Finals June 4th.
Nah he's right Lebron just walked off the court
And for all those who gets on Kobe, when he lost in the Finals last year, badly lost, Kobe still shook the opponets hands
I just rewinded my DVR and saw it
All I can say is WOW.
GO BRONCOS IN 2009 AND BEYOND!!
Lakers v. Magic. NBA Finals June 4th.
Everyone chants "Beat LA"
Well except for LA fans.
GO BRONCOS IN 2009 AND BEYOND!!
Lakers v. Magic. NBA Finals June 4th.
It's an easy, catchy chant
Can’t blame em
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
by Gils_Keloids on May 30, 2009 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions
How about MUCK THE FAGIC..............
MUCK THE FAGIC………………MUCK THE FAGIC…..
It’s catchy too isn’t it.
Well, sir, you are a cowardly son of a bitch! You just shot an unarmed man!.......Well, he should have armed himself if he's going to decorate his saloon with my friend. – Will Munny
Very catchy.
I can hear Staples Center now…
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
by Gils_Keloids on May 30, 2009 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Interesting series for an unbiased observer… Lakers are the better team, but the Magic are a tough matchup. I can’t wait for Game 1.
proud hinrichsheeple
This is a really good matchup. I have no doubts that Cleveland would have been crushed. Orlando is much tougher...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Lakers v Magic
lets go lakers, we got this, beaches!
Hindsight is so much better than 20/20
Don’t have the time right now to search it out, but I remember a Fox Sports piece about how Lebron’s Cavs had swept through the first two rounds, while Kobe’s Lakers had struggled, and that Lebron had done his part, would Kobe come through? Har har har.
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
Well, now we know.
Time for me to go read some microfilm, good evening to y’all!
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
They are really good on the road.
GO BRONCOS IN 2009 AND BEYOND!!
Lakers v. Magic. NBA Finals June 4th.
This will be one final tough test for the Lakers.
Game 1 will take forever to get here.
GO BRONCOS IN 2009 AND BEYOND!!
Lakers v. Magic. NBA Finals June 4th.
Watch out for them in the second quarter
They will just kill you with a massive onslaught of points.
They have shown they can come back from being down 20+ points several times.
GO BRONCOS IN 2009 AND BEYOND!!
NBA Finals: Lakers v. Magic. Game 1 June 4th
Hi everyone
I’m not as bummed about this loss as I was about game 4. Yes, the season’s over, and yes, it’s disheartening, but I’ve finally hit stage 5: Acceptance. It’s time to move on, not get mad at the Cavs, and just watch the NBA Finals. At least there’s still one last team I can sorta get behind.
Lebron needed more help in this series.
GO BRONCOS IN 2009 AND BEYOND!!
NBA Finals: Lakers v. Magic. Game 1 June 4th
He got some help in game 6
Except from Ilgauskas, who is not long for this league. The Magic were just undefendable. I really want to see if you guys can solve their puzzle.
It should be another entertaining series.
Lakers have 5 days (counting yesterday) to get ready for this series. It will be interesting to see how they deal with Howard and all those 3-point shooters.
GO BRONCOS IN 2009 AND BEYOND!!
NBA Finals: Lakers v. Magic. Game 1 June 4th
Remember how we talked about being held accountable for trash talking?
We trash-talked earlier and I was like you better still be here if you guys lose out. Good to see you’re here =).
Lebron scored 25 point tonight which equals his playoff low. Is anyone going to write about how he “gave up” ?
No, because he never did
He was tired. The hole was too deep to climb, and it was a hole the Cavs never should have been in. How could LeBron pick himself up after pouring in 49 points in game 1?
I think the point they're making
Is that Kobe gets dogged when his team fails to step up, and LeBron won’t get the same treatment.
Bork bork bork!
by Avinash Kunnath on May 30, 2009 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions
That's the best thing to do.
The season’s over, the away crowd is in ecstacy, the Magic players are being showered with a coronation…why hang around and talk to people? He’s been through enough.
supposedly he didn't even shake the other team's hands?
How do you defend that?
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
How do you defend that?
Well it’s Lebron, so I’m sure the media will try. Here ya go, your first sappy piece of the night:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ap-lebron-nohelp&prov=ap&type=lgns
Most of our shading comes from our backcourt...
And their backcourt isn’t better than any of the other backcourts we’ve played against when it comes to 3 point shooting.
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
Alston, Pietrus, and Lee have been on fire lately
Maybe not on fire for Alston, but enough to do serious damage if left open
Are you joking about Lee?
He’s shot 31% from three in the postseason. He may be a step up from Dahntay Jones, but he’s certainly a step below Shane Battier. Alston shoots well, but I think he’ll be the worst starting pg the Lakers will play against in the playoffs when it comes to the 3 ball (D.Will, Brooks, and Chauncy are all better than him in my opinion).
Pietrus is actually pretty good and I hadn’t considered him because I thought he was their backup SF.
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
True
But when MP is in at the end of games, they’re usually playing a 3-SF lineup with him, Turk, Lewis, so I kind of see him as taking Lee’s place.
Lee is conscious of his range – he does a great job using the shotfake and moving in a couple steps for an easy 15-footer. All I’m saying is that I think they knock down enough shots to give us problems if Kobe tries to go into gamble mode.
Lee and Alston are also the most likely to slump, though. Pray for a slump! If Rafer goes back to his Houston days, then Fish can leave him to bother Dwight.
I have to agree with that
Magic had a Cleveland team that focused on Lebron dictating the action, Magic will not get that look against the Lakers. Howard will be tested on Defense by Gasol and Bynum so whoever gets the best of these matchup will be key. I give the Lakers the edge because Lakers have 2 and Magic just have Howard. I’ll give the Lakers the advantage in the PG, SG Matchup and I’ll give the Magic the C advantage but every other position to me is equal.
Very smart.
I agree entirely. I think the Lakers have the advantage, for the first time in the playoffs, at the point guard position. I will take Derek Fisher on my team over Rafer Alston any day of the week right now given how proven each point guard is. Plus I’d take the double headed snake of Farmar and Brown over Anthony Johnson no problem as well.
Kobe owns the #2 spot of course.
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
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That was Kobe's "Welcome to the League, Dwight" Dunk
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
by Gils_Keloids on May 30, 2009 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions
this is really funny
considering the dog theme we had tonight.
http://pettube.com/dogs/zeke_has_march_madness.html
Well, sir, you are a cowardly son of a bitch! You just shot an unarmed man!.......Well, he should have armed himself if he's going to decorate his saloon with my friend. – Will Munny
The key
Will be how well we can defend without helping. Their ball movement is swift enough to overcome most close outs and rotations.
Can Bynum/Mbenga pull a Perkins and push Howard out of his comfort zone? Just make the game more difficult for him, that’s all. If we have to double Howard regularly, they’ll pick us apart with outside shooting.
The boards will be key. Dwight’s a beast, but we have 3 strong rebounders on our frontline. OK, 2, but Drew is big.
The keys will be Bynum and Odom
If Bynum can finally step up and play aggressive post D to force Howard into that hook shot and away from the basket. Otherwise it’s going to be Pau, and I’m not sure Pau enjoys going up against Howard in the low block (it’d certainly be a fascinating matchup). Gortat is also heavily underrated if Howard gets into foul trouble.
Odom needs two, maybe three great games feeding off of the big men. If he can clean up the shots, attack the rim, finish Kobe’s drives and Pau’s misses…the Lakers will win this series. If he doesn’t, it becomes a tossup.
I really think Cleveland was the perfect matchup for LA; they have to be furious Boston couldn’t close the Magic out when they were still struggling with themselves. Orlando has been wreaking havoc with everyone in this playoffs, and I can’t imagine the Lakers having it any easier.
Bork bork bork!
by Avinash Kunnath on May 30, 2009 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm definitely furious
No part of me preferred playing the Magic over the Celtics. My worst fears came true.
Start spreading the news, Im leaving today
I want to be a part of it – new york, new york
These vagabond shoes, are longing to stray
Right through the very heart of it – new york, new york
I wanna wake up in a city, that doesnt sleep
And find Im king of the hill – top of the heap
These little town blues, are melting away
Ill make a brand new start of it – in old new york
If I can make it there, Ill make it anywhere
Its up to you – new york, new york
New york, new york
I want to wake up in a city, that never sleeps
And find Im a number one top of the list, king of the hill
A number one
These little town blues, are melting away
Im gonna make a brand new start of it – in old new york
And if I can make it there, Im gonna make it anywhere
It up to you – new york new york
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
“Damn, out of a job now … I thought this gig was a lock …#&*% Lebron was my meal ticket … how am I gonna pay my rent now… I wonder who I can move in with… ?”
“Sorry, man, just got hitched, need my privacy, wink wink”
[Sigh] “That’s cool, I can try some of my other puppet buddies”
[Sigh] “Hey, Bert, Ernie, Y’all got room?”
“Er … actually, It’s pretty crowded in here with just the two of us … plus we need our privacy, wink wink”
“Wha? – hmph. Never mind … where am I going to go?”
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
"psst ... hey Bron puppet... Bron PUppet!"
“You can move in with me!”
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
this is freaking hilarious man. u should put this on the magic site so they can get a kick out of it. i would suggest the cavs’ blog too, but that would be mean.
I'm already pushing it with the Karma police
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
by Gils_Keloids on May 30, 2009 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions
This can very easily be replaced with Kobe if the Lakers lose so ... I'm scared now
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
by Gils_Keloids on May 30, 2009 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I remember this shot, Dwight told Kobe to shoot it
… Kobe missed.
But he can get him back next week!
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
by Gils_Keloids on May 30, 2009 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions
what I really want...
is Howard talking shit to Shaq before the real Superman bronzes the fake Superman in the Hall of Trash Talking Shame.
yea...
couple of the magic girls talkin trash on the cavs blog…and you are right gasol cant…but I dont think howard can guard gasol when he gets his mid range game going..Pau is dangerous when he’s attacking
by blackMamba09 on May 30, 2009 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions
and i don’t know why some say the prefer the cavs to win so the lakers can win the title against the best team and silence any naysayers that might complain about their not beating the best team in the east. that makes no sense. if the cavs were the better team they would have won. orlando was clearly the better team. they earned a trip to the finals. they will be the lakers’ toughest opponent in these playoffs.
yep ur right the Magic were clearly the better team throughout the entire series and the cavs might have been sweep if not for the heroics of Lebron…the magic will be our one of the hardest opponents we have faced…but we are a better and more seasoned laker team then last’s year finals and I think we have a pretty gud shot at winning it all this year…In the long run I think the Lakers mental toughness and experience will beat out the Magic in 6
by blackMamba09 on May 30, 2009 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Another different factor besides Jameer Nelson ...
… Vlad started both games for the Lakers against Orlando
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
by Gils_Keloids on May 30, 2009 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions
yep those are big – no jameer for orlando and THE MAN ariza replacing vlad means much higher prob. of lakers winning finals. just gotta keep superman on his toes and tighten up the perimeter and let kobe run the show.
by kumquatsrus on May 30, 2009 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm worried
about Rashard Lewis, and Raefer Alston.
Alston presents us the same problems as Aaron Brooks did in the Houston seven game series, and Lewis is a mobile 3 point shooting big man (who, if you look through Laker history since Phil Jackson arrived, have usually given us HUGE problems).
The question is… does Bynum still start? If so, can Gasol keep Lewis in check? Does Kobe take covering Alston, rather than the newb, Lee?
if anything
while the Magic were the better team, and did not have as good of a regular season as the Cavs… I still think this can be viewed as a EPIC FAIL by Cleveland.
All that dance, posing, trash talking, bush league bench antics, and overall poor sportsmanship came back to bite them in the ass.
While most fans might hate the Yankees, the Cowboys, the Celtics/Lakers, or the Red Wings… atleast we still show class (ok, scratch out Boston from that group) and don’t come up with ways to lower ourselves down to the middle/lower class.
“He’s a guy that you can’t let too far down in the lane,” Bynum said. “If you do, it’s going to be a problem.”
Bynum didn’t seem aggravated when reminded of his rough outing against Howard in December, when he amassed five fouls in under 12 minutes.
“That was when I was hearing whistles in my sleep for that part of the season,” Bynum said. “He’s a big body, he’s strong, he’s very athletic. He’s going to put pressure on everybody, but if we play team defense and move that ball on offense, I think we’ll be fine.”
As many advantages as the Magic have against us, we have probably the same amount of advantages against the Magic. This series will come down to who exploits their advantages and mismatches better.
matchups
PG: Orlando – Raefer Alston scares me, he’s gonna give us flashbacks of Aaron Brooks. Not quite as fast, but a better ball handler, and ALOT more brash, so expect him to come out guns blazing, and pulling JR Smith poses after big 3’s.
SG: HAHAHA – After bouts with Artest and Battier, Kobe’s been breezing through his defenders like butter. Lee’s gonna get the experience of his life in this one. (Imagine if he was still injured and JJ had to start? rotflmao)
[btw, anyone else notice that while now both Adam and JJ are getting a chance at the championship, since they missed out in the NCAA’s,,,, but the supposedly better player, Morrison, is on the inactive list, while the Dukie is a key bench player for the opposition. And don’t even get me started on how this COULD HAVE BEEN a white man’s Magic-Bird rivalry]
SF: Orlando – Hedo’s gonna be a pain, and expect Pietrus to guard Kobe plenty. This is a key position to stop. Ariza has no room for error here. Hedo is not Melo, but he’s a better ballhandler, and he’ll put Trevor to the test.
PF: Even – Depends on the matchups. If it’s Gasol/Lewis, both players have the advantage on the offensive end, and while Gasol also creates for others, Lewis shoots 3’s like their going outta style. So technically, on a points per possession standpoint, Lewis wins. But if we have Odom in there, I think it actually swings our way. Odom can guard Lewis, and also own him on the offensive end.
C: Orlando – No matter who plays Center, we’re going to have trouble with this spot. I expect we might see Powell or Mbenga here for short periods to keep Pau out of foul trouble, because I have no hope for Bynum in this one.
Bench: Los Angeles – This is the key. If the Mob can bring even it’s B game this entire series, we win in 6. A game makes it 5. C or D game… we’re going 7, or less in the opposite direction, and we’re all gonna be as mad as Lebron is tonight.
Coaching: Los Angeles – Like night and day here. While one coach panics, freaks out, and generally is a full on stress machine… the other just sits there, picking at his nails while opponents go on 16-0 runs, and refuses to call timeouts.
But Phil knows what he’s doing. Van Gundy seems to be trying to just keep the lid on a potential disaster.
All in all, this is gonna be a hellava series. I wish we woulda got Boston or Cleveland, not because they’d be easier, but just to prove a point.
**Note: Let’s all hope to god that the NBA is NOT fixed, because if it was, Orlando would win. The NBA needs big men to win championships, in order to encourage young 7 footers to play basketball, rather than become accountants. In a WWE-NBA environment, Kobe might be kind of like Hulk Hogan. The once loved superstar who goes NWO and becomes the villain. He might be the best there is, maybe ever, but he’s the villain, and bad guys don’t win championships. Lebron needs to wait on his, atleast until he gets to New York. Melo and Wade will fulfill their roles in later seasons as the Lebron punching bags.
I totally disagree on coaching
Stan has done a masterful job with this group. You don’t beat Boston in Game 7 or come back from 20 point deficits in Cleveland without great in-game adjustments.
Phil will have the edge, but not by as much as you think.
Bork bork bork!
by Avinash Kunnath on May 30, 2009 11:47 PM PDT up reply actions
the fact that it went to 7 against a hobbled Boston team
is nothing to be proud of.
Neither is going 7 against a hobbled Rockets team, but I think we can definately put that one on the players for LA. Howard has even called out his own coach for his questionable methods. Nobody in their right mind is going to question a man with 11 Finals appearances and 9 championships.
You could’ve said the same thing about Doc Rivers last season going to 7 against a talented but mercurial Atlanta team. That didn’t turn out so well for LA.
Stan and the Magic have grown as the playoffs have gone along. Stan’s not as positive as Doc, but he definitely keeps his players focused, puts them in the right places, and has them ready to execute, and it’s finally starting to rub off on them. That Howard moment could’ve destroyed their season and Stan’s job, but since then they’ve gone 6-2 and moved onto the Finals. He has done very well.
Bork bork bork!
by Avinash Kunnath on May 31, 2009 12:38 AM PDT up reply actions
yes
but sometimes you have to know where to draw the line between “because of the coach” and “because of the player(s)”
Doc I believe won last year because of his players. Stan is winning this year because of his players.
While some could say that Phil won because of his players, you have to look at those teams. Outside of MJ, and now Kobe (even the Kobe/Shaq years, to a degree), who did they really have surrounding them? One All-Star or Hall of Famer? (is Gasol a HoF? I doubt it). I’d say that Phil is one of the rare coaches who actually earns his victories with great coaching, and also earns his losses with poor coaching.
I think you have it backwards
Like you said, Phil has had MJ, Kobe/Shaq, and Kobe. He has literally coached some of the most prolific and game defining players of his time. Out of those finals appearances, he has had a grand total of SEVEN of them featuring that year’s league MVP. I don’t want to hate on him, as he really is a great coach, but he has always had the cream of the crop when fighting for a championship. Always.
SVG may have his faults, but he has done one thing excellently: Made a bunch of mediocre players excel. Yes, he does have Dwight, but the thing that seperates him and his allstar from Brown and HIS allstar, is that SVG is excellent at using all the pieces of the team to their fullest. I guarantee you that Hedo, Lewis, Pietrus, all of these players are made better by their coach and his style of play. On any other team, they wouldn’t even really be on the radar, but SVG’s system works.
Knowing how to use your supporting players, not just your greatest player, is one of the biggest hallmarks of a great coach, and SVG has shown that he can do this.
"We Believe" - Rudy Fernandez
Small Forward
NO WAY! First off Melo is a much tougher cover for Ariza than Hedo will be. Second, Hedo has Zero defense. He also must worry about Ariza. I do think that Orlando has the upper hand but not in the great advantage that you are speaking about.
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on May 31, 2009 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions
The magic arent exactly last years celtics defensively, but they are playing very very good and underrated basketball right now, they have the ability to win the finals and not just be happy with getting there
a lot of celtics fans are
hitting up the magic blog and talking trash about the lakers and wishing the magic beat the lakers. damn, what’s up with all of that hatred towards L.A. from boston folks?
bring it on
Everyone hates the Lakers… but we just soak it in and keep on winning
Boston may have the more titles, which does suck, but I’ll take having two less, and being a consistent winning franchise year to year any time over going through 10-20 year droughts every so often.
It's called a rivalry...
Apparently you and Pau Gasol need to take the same Lakers History 101 class… ;-)
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lol
that’s a bogus story, that’s not even pau gasol. pretty funny though. hey, i don’t hate the celts. i tipped my hat off to them, after they kicked our butts. they were a great champion.
It's The Onion
It’s satire.
And if the Magic were playing the Celts, I would be rooting like hell for the Magic.
That’s just how it be.
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Van Gundy said the Magic beat the Lakers at their best.
“It’s hard for me for anyone to make a case the Lakers had a bad game,” Van Gundy said.
this was after game 1 against orlando in the regular season. i agree, from what i recall, the lakers played at their best.
I don't think so. In that game,
Drew was in foul trouble, went 1-4, played less than 12 minutes, 1 rebound, 2 TO, 3 points, 5 fouls. LO was 1-7 (terrible, plus he fouled out), Pau 4-9 for 11 points and 7 rebounds (which is undeniably subpar for him), Sasha 0-6 (in 12 minutes, no less), Ariza 2-6 (not so good). The team shot 41.4%. No Laker had double figure rebounds. Fish played well (27 points, 9-16), and Kobe had a pretty good game for him with 41, 8 boards and 3 assists.
I’m sorry, but that is not our best. And we only lost by three.
Meanwhile, Nelson led the Magic with 27 on 11-16 shooting.
Also, in the second game, at Staples
Pau played all of 21 minutes, had 13 points and 9 boards, went 5-13 from the field—and he was not in foul trouble. Kobe had a triple double, but went 10-26 to get 28 points. Odom played reasonably well, 17 points and 9 boards, on 6-11. Drew had a so-so game, only three boards in 33 minutes, shot under 50% to get 14 points. Ariza was 2-7, and Fish was 3-11. Space Cadet started at SF. Walton and Farmar were both out with injuries. The team shot 39%.
Certainly not our best game either, and we only lost by six.
Guess who led the Magic in scoring? Nelson, 28 points, 9-18. Plus Howard had a 20-20 game.
Well said, and well said
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What happens in the regular season STAYS in the regular season...
the fact that the Magic beat us doesn’t matter now
the fact that it was Jameer Nelson that beat us doesn’t matter now.
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
What about the defensive end
Everyone is talking about this matchup with offense in mind but the real topic is defense. Yes the Magic can score three’s but this series will be much tougher for them on the defensive side. The only true mismatch is at Center and for the Lakers it’s at the guard position. Lewis will have to guard Pau instead Varejao this time and when Odom comes in then he defenitely will not be able to guard him either. The biggest difference in this series is who outrebounds who and the Lakers have more players who out rebound the magic than any other team that the Magic have faced. On top of that you have to figure that the Lakers are better at the free throw line and Dwight has a tendency to foul out.
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on May 31, 2009 10:02 AM PDT reply actions
don't forget
that Lewis will give Pau headaches on the other end of the court. Pau has shown he can be competent on the perimeter while defending pick and rolls… but in terms of defending a perimeter player who jacks up the most 3 pointers in the NBA? Ugh. And not only that, it takes out best rebounder out of prime rebounding position on the defensive end.
Yeah, definitely Lamar
My basis for this argument isn’t just based on stats but from watching the games over the years, you can tell the difference between a rebounder and someone like Zach Randolph (who averages close to 10 rebounds per game but is not a rebounder).
Using 82games.com’s statistics
Lamar Odom Total Rebounding Net +2.0%
Pau Gasol Total Rebounding Net +0.1%
Using Hollinger’s Rebounding Rate
Lamar Odom = 17.2
Pau Gasol = 16.1
I would say Lamar is our best rebounder, but you never know WHICH Lamar is going to show up. Sometimes he will fail to box out or go for the rebounds, instead opting to just watch the ball and hope the ball falls into hands. From Pau we can expect consistent rebounding.
But I won’t argue that Lamar is our best rebounder. He is but only when he is focused and determined…
I guess we have to make sure he eats the right candy
The one thing that I have noticed is Bynum was supposed to be our lead rebounder. Last year before he had the injury and before Gasol came, I thought that Bynum was on par with Lamar in terms of rebounding prowess (meaning that he actually hunts for rebounds instead of letting them bounce to him) but injury and adjusting to Gasol has set that prowess back a bit.
Durant is so long that it is freaky.
But back to the rebounding issue, which I believe Dwight will dominate if we don’t have help down low. Superman is a true rebounder in the likes of Charles Barkley and Moses Malone. This is where Bynum needs to box out so that either he gets the rebound or Gasol/Odom picks it up. We don’t want to give second chances to a team that thrives on the 3 because second chances puts our defense into scramble mode which usually ends up in an open three for the opposition.
hmm
i think you guys are underestimating lee…
no doubt kobes a lot better but
lee is no chump…
I like Courtney Lee
He’s going to be something in a few years. Mark my words. The guy just flat out knows how to play and the mask is granting him Rip Hamilton’s powers.
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