Series Preview -- L.A. Lakers vs. Denver Nuggets
Phew, glad to have that Rockets series over with -- maybe this team has learned a little bit about itself and how it really needs to bring it every night, especially on the defensive end. FWIW, Cleveland sweeps that series and wins Game 4 (no Yao) by 40 on Houston's home floor. You cannot underestimate how good the Lil' Lebron's are playing right now: 8 Playoff wins, all by double digits, and playing ridiculously good team defense. They're clearly the favorite right now, especially after they paste Orlando in the first two games of the Eastern Finals. Mark my words, it's going to happen.
A few key points about the Western Finals before I get to breaking down the matchups:
- Both of these teams like to run, but I think the Lakers are in trouble if they get into a track meet with Denver on the road. The elevation will be a factor, and our bigs will get worn out quicker than theirs will, which will spell trouble in the fourth quarter.
- It's imperative that the Lakers hold home court the first two games. Denver is not a lockdown team at home (as they exhibited in Game 3 of the semifinals), but letting them steal one and go home with the series tied will have their fans fired up and thinking their team can win this series.
- Andrew Bynum must play like he did on Sunday for this whole series.
- I see Shannon Brown getting a lot of minutes in this series because he's big and physical and is a much better matchup for Billups and Carter than Farmar is.
The Matchups:
Key Defensive Matchup: Trevor Ariza vs. Carmelo Anthony:
If the Nuggets are smart (insert Bucks era George Karl joke here) they'll post Anthony on the right block against Ariza A LOT, and force the Lakers to double or allow Ariza to end up in foul trouble while Carmelo gets going by hitting 12 foot fadeaways or getting layups at the rim. Ariza's length can bother Carmelo on the perimeter but Anthony could physically dominate him in the post, as we saw Artest was able to do, when he wanted to, in the Rockets series. This matchup is an area of concern in a halfcourt setting and in key possessions down the stretch. In fact, I think that Odom should probably play Anthony in the fourth quarter with Ariza playing JR Smith or Chauncey Billups (more on this in a minute).
Key Defensive Question: Who guards Chauncey Billups?
If the Nuggets are going to start Dahntay Jones as their "Kobe slower-downer" then Fisher should guard Billups and Kobe matches up against Jones and plays defensive free safety, which is really when he's at his best on the defensive end -- jumping into passing lanes and diving from the perimeter to the post on double teams. The problem comes up when the Nuggets go to their best lineup, which is Billups, Smith, Anthony, Martin, and Nene. If the Lakers go big, then Odom guards Anthony, Kobe guards Smith, and Brown/Fish guards Billups. I don't think the Lakers can go small here unless they play two guards like Fish/Brown/Sasha together with Kobe at the small forward. Kobe's not a good matchup against Anthony, so this wouldn't be a good lineup for the Lakers. Farmar really shouldn't get a lot of minutes in this series unless he's knocking down 70% of his threes.
That's really the concern in this series: If Karl plays that lineup 50% of the time, the Lakers are really going to have matchup problems because they're going to end up with an undersized forward playing Anthony OR a small guard playing Billups, and neither of those are desireable matchups for the Lakers. Don't get me wrong, I think that they match up better with the Nugs' big guards better than they do the Rockets waterbug guards.
Key Offensive Matchups: Gasol/Bynum vs. Martin/Nene
This should concern the hell out of Phil Jackson. Both Martin and Nene are physical low post defenders, similar to, oh, Kendrick Perkins and Kevin Garnett last year for the Celtics. The biggest single reason that the Lakers lost the Finals last year was that Perkins beat the holy crap out of Gasol in the post and Pau disappeared in that series. This could be the same situation, which is why both Pau and Bynum have to play like men in this series. We witnessed what Chuck Hayes did to Gasol just by being physical, and he was giving up 6 inches to him -- Martin and Nene are his size, and so is Birdman (he's taller if you count his ridiculous haircut). If Denver turns the Lakers into a jump-shooting team, the series is over in 5 games -- look at what happened when the Rockets made L.A. a jump shooting team in Games 4 and 6 of the semis, and the Nuggets are heads and shoulders better offensively than that Rockets team. Gasol and Bynum must average a 32-20 between them to create enough offensive balance for the Lakers to thrive.
Key Offensive Question: Which Lamar Odom will we get?
Look, we know Kobe will get 30 at least twice in this series, and we know that Gasol and Bynum are question marks due to the physical nature of the defenders they're going to see. That leaves Odom.
If the Nuggets guard him with Carmelo, the Lakers should run the triangle with Odom on the block and let the offense run though him. Anthony reminds me of Charles Barkley -- he's as tough a matchup as there is offensively, but you can get back a whole lot of the points he scores on the other end by taking advantage of him defensively. Odom should dominate Anthony and force the Nuggets to put Kenyon Martin on him (which I think they will anyway), but that should open up the lane a little more for Kobe to drive and for Gasol/Bynum to get good looks at the basket.
This is my personal opinion, but I think the entire series really hinges on Lamar Odom. If he can be a go to guy offensively, hit 70% of his free throws and 35% of his 3's, then he is a huge matchup problem for the Nuggets because they simply don't have a player that can guard him if Phil plays their best lineup 35% of the time (Bynum, Gasol, Odom, Bryant, Fisher). My biggest fear is that Phil will play Odom at the 4 spot and allow Kenyon Martin to completely dominate him in the series (which he will), rendering the matchup problem useless for the Lakers. I would hope the Zen-Master is smart enough to use the Lakers' post rotation to keep Martin and Nene busy while leaving Anthony, Smith, Billups, Jones, and Kleiza to man the Laker backcourt.
My favorite Laker lineup in this series? Bryant, Ariza/Vujacic, Odom, Gasol, and Bynum. Think about it for a second. Lamar brings the ball up as a Pippen type point forward, Ariza/Vujacic bothers the holy hell out of Chauncey Billups defensively, and the Nuggets have no way to hide both Anthony and Smith on defense. One of those two will have to guard Odom or Bryant, and Martin wouldn't guard Lamar if he's bringing the ball up because it would wear him out. That lineup is matchup hell for the Nuggets. However, according to 82games.com, that lineup hasn't seen the floor all season, so don't expect to see it in this series.
Key Intangibles:
Turnovers and Fast Break Points:
The Nuggets are not good at taking care of the ball - Anthony/Smith/Nene/Billups average around 11 turnovers per 36 minutes as a whole. That's quite a few. This should give the Lakers some opportunities for easy points.
If the Lakers end up in jump shooting mode, this is what will kill them. Games 4 and 6 against the Rockets were marred with turnovers and poor ball movement, and the Nuggets will turn a lot of turnovers into points, much more than the Rockets did.
Officiating:
If the series is called closely, advantage L.A. because the Lakers have a deeper bench and the Nuggets lose the advantage of physical post play disrupting Gasol's aggressiveness. If it becomes a physical series, and it probably will, I think this favors the Nuggets because they have very aggressive and physical offensive players that are all excellent free throw shooters.
Bench Play:
Walton/Brown/Vujacic/Farmar > Smith/Kleiza/Anderson/Carter
It just has to be, right? If not, the Lakers will have trouble holding leads and will have to play Kobe, Lamar, and Pau more in the 2nd and 3rd quarters. Not a good idea when you're playing at altitude in Denver.
Overall Series:
1. I see Anthony and Billups having very good series' against the Lakers.
2. Kobe should have at least one game of 40+ and possibly even two, and he should get to the line 8+ times a game in this series.
3. Gasol/Odom have to outplay Martin/Nene. They just have to. No excuses.
4. I see the Lakers winning this series in 6, with Denver winning game 3 by about 30 points after the Lakers take the first two games in L.A. and turn in a total stinkbomb by putting it on cruise control.
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Nice post.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
by timbo on May 18, 2009 10:43 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Anthony averaged 30 ppg. during the Dallas series. Stopping him is pivotal...
I really only like 2 matchups for the Lakers — first string Shooting Guard (Kobe being Kobe) and Pau Gasol on Kenyon Martin…
Denver has firepower to spare and I have a hunch they’re going to top the Lakers in 6.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
by timbo on May 18, 2009 10:47 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't see anyone but Nene and Anderson
guarding Pau. I think they’ll actually put Martin on Bynum if both Pau and Bynum are playing together, simply because really physical defenders bother Pau, and Nene and Birdman are as physical as they come.
That despite Kenyon being a “punk thug” according to Mark Cuban.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on May 18, 2009 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I assume you mean "top the Lakers in GAME 6" right? And then Lakers win Game 7, right?
"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley
by pslakerfan on May 18, 2009 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, I think Denver wins the series in 6. Which means they have to pull a road win.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
by timbo on May 18, 2009 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
and win all 3 at Pepsi Ctr.
"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley
by pslakerfan on May 18, 2009 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve said this a bunch of times but Lamar needs to guard Melo
by intuitive on May 18, 2009 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fuck the lakers
Way to be classy in winning. Comparing a team that took you all the way to game 7 without any stars to a lodged turd. So i guess that makes the lakers the shit covered toilet paper thats stuck with it. That’s way the rest of the NBA fanbase despises the lakers. Here’s hoping the Nuggets dismantle you in 5. GO NUGGETS. Fuck LA
by mutombo4life on May 18, 2009 10:54 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
LOL
Start with Fuck the Lakers and then get to the part where WE’RE not classy? Funny. And the shit on the toilet paper was another thread. Pay attention.
"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley
by pslakerfan on May 18, 2009 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No Stars? Who cares!!
It’s all about matchups in this league, and the Rockets were very tough team for the Lakers to match up with, Yao or no Yao. They match up much better with the Nuggets, who don’t have hyper-quick guards that can cause them all kinds of problems in the pick and roll.
Unless of course you just steamroll teams like Cleveland does. I’d put the odds of their winning the title at 3-1 right now. I’d also put the odds of them winning a title without losing a game at around 20-1 right now. Takers?
You stay classy San Diego…
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on May 18, 2009 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Way to selectively read things and then overgeneralize and project...
Way to be classy in winning. Comparing a team that took you all the way to game 7 without any stars to a lodged turd. So i guess that makes the lakers the shit covered toilet paper thats stuck with it.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
by timbo on May 18, 2009 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
BTW: You posted in the wrong thread.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
by timbo on May 18, 2009 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Disagree about the track meet
The Lakers love to run, we just don’t get to see it as much because Phil loves the triangle. I’m not at all worried about our conditioning, and if the Nuggets want to turn the game into a fast break, I think that they will be sorry. Gasol runs better than any big man in the game, Odom is basically a guard on the break, Ariza and Vujacic are always cherry-picking, and UPS and Farmar are lightning quick. include Kobe in that group, and we always have at least 3 players on the floor who can get our and run. The Nuggets can’t stop them all, and in a high scoring game the Lakers will win 9.5 times out of 10 anyways.
by Sideout11 on May 18, 2009 12:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I alluded to this later on in the analysis
I think that the Laker’s have selectively run when they get opportunities on the break. When I say “track meet” I mean jacking up shots within the first 10 seconds of the shot clock regardless of fast break or not. With the number of guys the Nuggets have that hit the three point shot well, and how the Lakers guards haven’t shot the three as well as they did last year, you don’t want to get into a “shot volume” competition with Denver, because they’ll probably win.
The Lakers are at their best when everyone is getting touches in the halfcourt and they’re able to dump it in to Pau and run cutters through the lane and get spot up 3’s on the backside of the cutters. If you’ve watched the Lakers this year, as well as having watched the Lakers during Phil’s first tenure, they really don’t run the triangle much at all in the halfcourt, because Pau doesn’t touch the ball at he high post often and he doesn’t like posting in the triangle because of perimeter guards diving down to the post to swipe at the ball as he backs guys down. They do run it quite a bit when they are able to post Odom against a smaller player, but that probably won’t happen in this series. The difference between this team and Phil’s other title teams is that they don’t have a dominant low post presence (Shaq for the Lakers, and Jordan, who posted a lot in the Bulls triangle) who can hit cutters and spot up shooters when doubled.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on May 18, 2009 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Correction
They run the triangle A LOT when both Pau and Bynum are in the game together. They get the ball to Pau or Odom at the high post and try to post Bynum on the opposite block or hit Ariza or Vujacic in the opposite corner for a three. They did this all the time before Bynum got hurt and it was a extremely effective — we just haven’t seen the same Bynum since he came back 6 weeks ago.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on May 18, 2009 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nuggets fan perspective
Great preview with lots of non-homeristic insight and analysis. A couple of things:
The Nuggets have an underrated home court advantage. The energy of the crowd sparked pivotal second half runs that lead to eventual blowouts of the Hornets and Mavs. As of late they have not only been good at home, they’ve won by double digits in all games during the playoffs. They could get back into it should the Lakers win the first 2 at home, which they should and probably will
Lamar and Pau are the 2 biggest advantages I see for the Lakers. Both of them are much better offensive rebounders than anyone the Nuggets have. Even if Bynum has foul trouble they can still dominate the boards. I think the reason they have been inconsistent is because LA has a penchant for chasing 3s and jump shots when they fall behind early.
The Nuggets can struggle against a team like LA who are great at creating turnovers. The dirty little secret is they have been shooting free throws terribly in these playoffs. Something around 70%. Besides Anthony and Billups, everyone else is garbage. So in a late game situation or tightly officiated contest, it;s a pretty big advantage to the Lakers and they have experience performing on a big stage.
JR Smith is an x-factor with the potential to swing the bench favor to the Nuggets. Normally, he’s Vujacic, maybe a little better. But when he is on, he can turn in a Kobe like shooting performance. I know that sounds ridiculous but after watching 90% of Nuggets games this year, the team will go to him when they feel he is hot. Perhaps it;s not likely to happen versus LA, but I have seen many one man scoring runs from him before.
Can’t wait for the series to start
by runningdonut on May 18, 2009 5:07 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Good points about JR Smith
I don’t think many Lakers fans will dispute that he is better than Sasha at this point. When he’s hot, he’s on fire. I do think he can take many ill advised shots, but he’s tried to alleviate that to some extent.
The Lakers are not shooting FT’s good either, besides Kobe. Lamar and Trevor are guaranteed to make one and miss one every time they go to the line.
Nick Adenhart - 1986 - 2009 R.I.P.
by swiss mcgee on May 18, 2009 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
J.R. Smith is the single most deadly factor in the Nuggets' aresenal -- because he'll be going against the bench crew... When he is stroking, he is indeed Kobesque...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
by timbo on May 18, 2009 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good points...
You really only need two good free throw shooters at the end of games, and if one of them is your best ball-handler (Billups) and the other one is your best player (Anthony) you should be fine. With the way the rules are set up now, you can’t just foul the worst guy on the floor during the in-bounds play. Martin, Nene, and the rest of the bench have never been very good free throw shooters, so this really isn’t much of surprise.
I do think that the Nuggets have a great home court advantage. They haven’t had it all year but the fans seem to have come around over the last couple of months. The thing is, the Lakers are GREAT at home and the Nuggets don’t defend well enough to win on the road if the Lakers show up and play solid team defense, which was the problem in the Rockets series.
Agree on Odom and Pau, but they are also very soft players, that’s not just Celtic posturing — every time they get pushed around they disappear. The Nuggets front court aren’t great rebounders, but they are very physical, so I think that negates the advantage on the boards since Pau and Lamar won’t get pushed around much before they quit attacking the boards. Just go back and watch some highlights of the Rockets series, particularly games 4 and 6, and you’ll see what I mean. The Rockets killed them on the boards while playing one guy over 6’9" (Scola) in both of those games. Sad, sad performance.
I agree that Smith is an X-factor, but I think the Lakers’ bench actually matches up with him better than the starting lineup. Kobe isn’t a great on-ball defender, but he’s incredible when he gets to sag off and play passing lanes and free safety in the half court. This also helps the Laker rebounding when he’s able to do this. If he’s playing Jones he can play that way — if he’s playing Smith he can’t. If Vujacic and Walton are playing Smith with Pau or Bynum in the middle, they can keep Smith in check better than Kobe and Lamar can on the first unit.
Should be a really, really good series. I’m looking forward to it — it should be much more entertaining than the Eastern Finals. On that topic, what’s with all these non-sensical analysts picking Orlando in that series? Did they watch any of the regular season games? Have they watched Cleveland completely dismantle 2 teams in the first two rounds? I’ll be surprised if that series goes 5 games.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on May 19, 2009 7:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

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