Lakers Lay A Big Fat Egg: Game Four Post-Game Thread
Well, we all knew that this would happen. They have played with more passion, more energy, and more toughness then us all series. This is a veteran team that's hungry, and the Lakers are fortunate to be here after a key mid-season trade. Of course, if Bynum was here, this would be a much different...wait, what's that?
We didn't play the Celtics today? We already got smoked by them last year and learned from it? Whoa. Then who did we play? The Rockets? That's fair. Yao Ming is...what? No Yao? But Bynum is back in LA in the gym getting ready to...huh? He was there? And playing? Uh-oh.
Uh-oh is right. Maybe not for this series, but for this Lakers team as they move forward. I don't know what kind of motivation they need, but clearly a championship isn't enough. Because let's be clear, this loss is entirely on the Lakers. The Rocket's came out hot and played tough, but what killed us was an absolute lack of defense. Not to take away from Houston's inspired performance, but we could have played the Washington Generals and the outcome would have been the same.
Here's the box score and recap.
Share your thoughts (respectfully) below.
Go Purple & Gold!
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Hard to watch other teams play better playoff basketball...
Than this team. I’m questioning on where exactly this team is heading, because they just don’t have what it takes to dominate teams anymore.
Well, we're waiting....
sort of agree with you
but then I look at those who are dominating their series and I look at their competition. Cavs aren’t playing a team like Houston, Atlanta doesn’t play nearly as good of defense to make the Cavs work and Denver they are dominating because Mavs are road kill, easy wins Mavs weren’t going nowhere in the playoffs Denver should be kicking they’re behind, those teams are dominating due to not great opponets, Lakers aren’t dominating because there opponets have been tough and battled them to every win, it happen to Boston last year so I’m not that worried about the Lakers chances at the title. But Lakers should not be losing to a Yao-less short Rockets team, their effort has to be there for every opponets Lakers do that for the rest of the playoffs and they will be fine plus Fisher and Bynum need to sit somewhere I do not want to see them two play at all.
Yeap.. While Kobe gets stuck with Battier and Artest.
But if we can beat all these good teams then it can only help us. Thats what I think anyway
So where does that get you as a fan
You’re going to stop watching because you think this team can’t win it all?
How’s this, posit your theories, but then sit back and watch, because life has a way of surprising you.
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
by Gils_Keloids on May 10, 2009 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I've been a fan of this team...
Since the early 70’s. Guess what? They have lost a lot of post season games during that time, and I’m still a fan.
Happy now, Dooshy?
Well, we're waiting....
????
Yes, so why do you insist on making predictions about the team’s ability to win a title?
Have you done this every year since the early 70s???
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
by Gils_Keloids on May 10, 2009 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I didn't make a prediction..
But I’m sure you think I did, judging by your post below.
You definitely have a bigger problem being a Laker fan than I ever will.
Well, we're waiting....
OK
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
by Gils_Keloids on May 10, 2009 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions
You must have figured out by now
That they play the games eventually, and you will find out, so the point of your “questioning exactly where this team is heading” will be answered in due time. It won’t be answered by you.
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
by Gils_Keloids on May 10, 2009 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions
I missed the game after the first quarter so allow me to go crazy and say
whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa? What happened to Lamar?
As for the first quarter, it seemed obvious that the Lakers wanted no part of the game. I didn’t even bother watching the final 3 quarters because of that lack of defense in the first quarter where the team was going through the motions and allowing Houston to just outwork them on every possession. I’m guessing that I didn’t witness any heroics and even though the media will start questioning that killer instinct again, I felt that the Rockets were going to come out hard because of the context of their situation. When you have a group of guys that plays hard and just hustles and when their best player goes down, it’s like playing with your backs against the wall. You got nothing to lose no more so you can play freely, which was evident in the first quarter.
So, let’s hope the team responds to Game 5 because I’m sure there’s a lot of bulletin board material for Phil Jackson to give to the team about how Cleveland is going to destroy them, how Denver is the team to beat out West, how LeBron has a killer instinct and Kobe is no match for him.
In the 3rd quarter Lamar was going up for a dunk
While he was in the air Battier slid underneath him to draw the charge. Lamar fell on his back. He COMPLETELY fell on his back without any cushion, he couldnt get his hands underneath him in time to soften the blow. So he fell and you could hear the thud on the TV. I mean, it was a hard fall. Afterwards he iced it and went back into the locker room.
You did miss the 4th quarter though
we put up quite a fight. Its just the first 3 quarters were SO bad that when we did go on a mini run the lead was already too big to overcome
It's as if the Lakers thought they won this series (and by extension, Game 4)
When Yao Ming went down with an injury. LA might be more talented, but Houston is showing they can outeffort them.
I don’t expect the Lakers to lose this series (Houston can’t play that well again), but if they keep on playing this way down the road, Denver, Cleveland or Orlando are going to make life verrry difficult for them.
Bork bork bork!
by Avinash Kunnath on May 10, 2009 3:43 PM PDT reply actions
Their mental aspect of the game is fragile IMO....
I really don’t have much to say any further on that. At least not now.
Well, we're waiting....
It's been
Bynum, Fisher who has been missing men not contribution to the Lakers and for Fisher to be a starter not contributing in no way only hurts the Lakers. I really hope Fiser sits game 5 Shannon showed up Farmer showed up its time for a change. Phil needs to wake up and sit Fisher and Bynum for the Lakers to move on, this is ridiculous.
Id rather see DJ at this point instead of Bynum
at least DJ will put in effort and contest shots..
What should be the rotation?
-Starters: Pau, Odom, Ariza, Kobe, Farmar
-Bench: Vujacic, Brown, Powell?
Do the Lakers really need Bynum the rest of the series? There are no centers left for him to face and he hasn’t shown himself to be dominant.
Bork bork bork!
by Avinash Kunnath on May 10, 2009 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
And the Lakers defense today was just horrible you have Hayes on the floor and you allow Houston to get a big lead. The Lakers defense should be geared towards making Hayes beat them, they are supposed to make Hayes make shots, they’re hole game plan today was ridiculous when you as a coach see something isn’t working you have to make a change.
Your theory was sound, Gils, by the way. For a game at least. Without Yao the Rockets found a new gear they didn’t need this season.
I would be surprised if this lasted. Then again, Ron-Ron, Landry and Waver were useless.
Silver lining for the Lakers: Pau seems to have dominated, judging from the box score at least. That should happen again in games 5 and 6.
Straight from the No-Stat Zone to your computer!
Dunkin' Cheerleaders
He only dominated in the 4th quarter
Before that he was a big reason why we went down so big in the first 3 quarters (along with the other guys too). He couldn’t out play the smaller Hayes….. I mean Pau had like a legit 6 inches on Hayes and through the first 3 quarters he went up soft and he couldn’t find a way to shake Chuck off, no reason for that.
And when we were down about 11 in the first quarter he missed free throws because the crowd started booing him :/ not a good sign
I'm right half the time!
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
by Gils_Keloids on May 10, 2009 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Like you said..
If a championship isn’t enough motivation to play defense, I don’t know what is. Cleveland is CLEARLY a much better team than the Lakers. They actually bring it every night, they know what it takes to win it all. I love how they don’t take teams or leads lightly, unlike the Lakers.
They go for the kill, unlike the Lakers.
Cleveland has played against the Pistons and the Hawks.....
I mean Mario West is guarding Lebron James….. In comparison we have had to play against Utah and the Rockets. These are not your usual 8th and 4th seed teams. Especially with Artest and Battier who are 2 good defenders that can make Kobe work for his points. Who on the Hawks or Pistons can make Lebron work for his?
But I do admit the Cavs do a better job in taking advantage of leads and bringing the energy required.
I also agree
You just don’t see the Cavs never play without energy and purpose for some reason the whole Lakers team don’t click and they don’t collectively play with great energy and plus the Lakers interior defense sucks, if we had a Dwight type player that blocked all shots we would be great defensively but we have Gasol guarding the paint and he doesn’t deter anyone from coming to the hoop and that is not the formula for success on defense.
The Cavs seem ready to go every nite.
The Lakers switch-flipper mentality seems to bite them in the ass at times.
That may be true
They do love to be challenged. Stop testing yourselves!
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
by Gils_Keloids on May 10, 2009 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm scared of playing the Nuggets
If we get that far. And by the way, where’s our “difference maker”, Andrew Bynum?
I'm not
A different animal but they don’t have players that can guard Kobe like Houston does and Denver is a improved defense team but they aren’t a great one and I don’t expect the Lakers to have much problems with them but I also thought the Lakers wouldn’t have a problem with Houston tonight so you can’t really ask me what the Lakers will do against Devner but I can only hope they play with the fire that they can play with and beat Denver in 6.

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