The Waiting Game: Houston @ Portland
With the Lakers enjoyed some welcome rest in between playoff series, our second round opponent has yet to be decided. Up north, Houston is trying to win a second game in Portland to end the series and accept the dubious prize of playing the Lakers. Meanwhile, the Trail Blazers are fighting for their playoff lives, with every game a must-win.
Regardless of which team you'd rather play in the second round, I think it's clear which team every Lakers fan should be rooting for tonight. A Portland win would extend this series, allowing the Lakers to rest up while the Rockets and Blazers expend their energy on each other.
Since we know what we want to see tonight, let's talk about the overall outcome of the series. Would you rather see Houston in Round 2, or Portland? Or, put it the other way: Do you dread Houston's defense more, or Portland's home court?
With no Lakers games for several days, I thought you guys might get a bit bored. If that's the case, then flip your TV over to NBA TV, get in the comments, and start looking ahead to the next round. This is Houston vs. Portland from a Laker perspective.
For those interested, this is your Waiting Game liveblog, post-game analysis, and (if the Rockets win) Round 2 preview, all wrapped up into one. Have fun!
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Blazers should win this one at home, they’re very tough there… Lead is 7 at the half…
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by timbo on Apr 28, 2009 8:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That's alright
I think I’m going to steer clear of the BEdgers while they’re at their most passionate.
3-point game with 2:28 left in the quarter. I must say, the Rockets’ toughness is impressing me. Destroying the Blazers at home in Game 1, being thisclose in their only loss, and now in a dead heat in Portland against a Blazers team that refuses to lose…
Surely, this does nothing to help T-Mac’s legacy.
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by Josh Tucker on Apr 28, 2009 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It seems I jinxed them
Portland has pulled away in the 4th.
Well good. Longer series, more rest!
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by Josh Tucker on Apr 28, 2009 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Blazers are a 4th quarter team. When they lose, they get down 15+ in the first half.
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by timbo on Apr 28, 2009 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Next game: Thursday 6:30 Pacific...
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by timbo on Apr 28, 2009 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm fine with the waiting game
As long as it isn’t the Crying Game
by Gils_Keloids on Apr 28, 2009 8:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Don't think there'll be any crying tonight
Since Portland is winning.
Then again, maybe there still will be?
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by Josh Tucker on Apr 28, 2009 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's Houston's turn to cry.
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by timbo on Apr 28, 2009 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You paid attention to them much?
How do their fans measure up, compared to other teams? I figure Laker fans have such high standards that if the Lakers lose, the fans pretty much just get pissed at the team. (Always exceptions, though.) Utah fans, well… we know how that goes. Portland fans (present company excepted) seem on par with Utah.
Where does Houston fall on the spectrum, in your estimation?
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by Josh Tucker on Apr 28, 2009 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fans are fans everywhere... Winners love the officiating, losers cry...
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by timbo on Apr 29, 2009 7:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but some are worse than others
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by Josh Tucker on Apr 29, 2009 8:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone have any idea how many days rest Portland or Houston will get after their series?
I’d like to have an idea of when we’d start if the Rockets win Game 6.
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by Josh Tucker on Apr 28, 2009 9:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I heard it could be sometime this weekend at the earliest.
by intuitive on Apr 28, 2009 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Spurs are done.
and Portland pulling away
by intuitive on Apr 28, 2009 9:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Watch out for Dallas. They are hot.
I think they’re gonna beat Denver.
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by timbo on Apr 28, 2009 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Denver? Really?
Denver isn’t exactly cold. BTW, have you seen Denver’s playoffs Offensive Efficiency Rating (ESPN Hollinger Team Stats)? It’s off the charts.
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by Josh Tucker on Apr 28, 2009 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dallas has the tools. Their deficiency is at the C position.
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by timbo on Apr 28, 2009 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Portland is just another version of utah
They get every call in the world up in Portland. We dont need to battle a team and the refs who are afraid of it’s fans. We’d take Houston in 5. 4 if the Lakers feel like it.
by wavenstein on Apr 28, 2009 9:22 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I see it going 6 against Houston and 7 against the Blazers.
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by timbo on Apr 28, 2009 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Disagree
Perhaps this is just me being arrogant. But I don’t think Portland can win in LA. And I don’t see LA losing two in a row, even both in Portland. One or the other would have to happen to go to 7. I see 6 against Portland, 5 against Houston.
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by Josh Tucker on Apr 28, 2009 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Home court advantage is directly correlated to the noise and insanity of the fans.
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by timbo on Apr 28, 2009 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Generally
But I know people who think that Staples Center holds some kinda strange magic for the Lakers, where even though the fans aren’t that loud, things just tend to go their way. And I don’t mean calls… I mean things. Shots going in, coming up with loose balls, just pure lucky plays. Sometimes, I’ve watched and felt like they might be right.
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by Josh Tucker on Apr 28, 2009 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Blazers don't believe the voodoo. The question is whether they can get past the Rockets, who are the toughest of matchups for them...
That’s still pretty iffy.
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by timbo on Apr 28, 2009 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not a question of the Blazers believing
And it’s not really magic. That’s just a manner of speaking. I just mean that things have a way of going right in Staples Center. And remember, the Blazers are good at home, but the Lakers have the second best home record in the league. Only the Cavs were better.
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by Josh Tucker on Apr 28, 2009 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i know what you mean silver. the shots fall for us and we just dont lose very often at home…. even though staples isn’t by any means “loud”
by intuitive on Apr 28, 2009 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can you imagine
what it would be like if, on top of that, the fans actually got their acts together and became one of the louder crowds in the league? Talk about a home court advantage…
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by Josh Tucker on Apr 28, 2009 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, i doubt staples will ever be very loud though. just because the superstars get free tickets to the games and they’re just way too cool to be seen cheering…
by intuitive on Apr 28, 2009 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can tell that there are solid, loud Laker fans in the room -- but they are upstairs and out of sight...
Down at courtside it looks like a golf crowd sometimes.
The Lakers had such a tremendous record at home this year that this hasn’t really been noted much, but I think the OBJECTIVE home court advantage for LAL is probably one of the smallest in the league…
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by timbo on Apr 28, 2009 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It depends on how you define it
Are you talking about how the team plays, and what the result is, at home? Or are you talking specifically about how the crowd factors in?
Because in the former, I’d say Cleveland has the best home court advantage in the league, and LA is up there near the top. But if you’re talking about the latter, then I’d give it to Utah, with Portland a close second.
I’d say the crowd is the biggest factor in Utah and Portland. But I’d say the Cavs and Lakers are better on their home courts than anyone else.
So perhaps you could say Utah and Portland have the strongest home court advantage — while Cleveland and LA have the strongest home court.
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by Josh Tucker on Apr 28, 2009 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Strongest home court advantage v. best records at home
So perhaps you could say Utah and Portland have the strongest home court advantage — while Cleveland and LA have the strongest home court.
Home court is clearly bigger than just the crowd… My guess is that certain key players perform at their highest level in certain surroundings. But just in terms of the raw crowd influence of a result, agreed that Utah and Portland are the two top arenas in the West (Boston in the East).
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by timbo on Apr 28, 2009 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the pricing system probably precludes it.
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by timbo on Apr 28, 2009 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trevor plays better there, that's probably where it all begins.
Somebody asked the other day what exactly it is about Houston that gives Portland so much trouble… I’m still not quite sure. If you just look at them on paper, there’s nothing that extraordinary about them, outside of Yao, who can not be directly matched… There is something about the sum-of-the-parts thing with them, sort of like San Antonio (before they got older and started to suck)… Battier is a hell of a player, too.
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by timbo on Apr 28, 2009 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LO's outside shooting
is much better at home too
by intuitive on Apr 28, 2009 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
One down, two to go.
Blazers have upped their odds of stringing 3 in a row together from about 15% to about 30%, I reckon.
If Houston does not win game 6, they are in deep shit. You heard it here first.
Blazers lost the 2 games in Houston by a total of 4 points. They’re due.
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by timbo on Apr 28, 2009 9:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
We'll see
I don’t think the Blazers have the experience and the mental fortitude to win three games in a row against the Rockets.
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by Josh Tucker on Apr 28, 2009 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They seem to have solved the Yao puzzle. That's a start. They guys that are killing them are Scola and Brooks.
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by timbo on Apr 28, 2009 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can you imagine
What this team could be if T-Mac could integrate into this team… rather than the team having to adjust to accomodate to him? If he could just realize Yao is the man, he is a subpar superstar, and he needs to do the Pau Gasol thing and come in and quietly figure out how he can contribute to what already exists? I mean, he’s got the talent… if he could just figure out a way to not hinder this team when he’s in the lineup… Jeebus…
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by Josh Tucker on Apr 28, 2009 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Portland gives us more rest
Exactly what we needed, thanks Portland. I’m still going to hope you lose in the end, because the thought of playing in Portland annoys me about as much as playing in Utah did.
San Antonio is out. Celtics and Magic both take care of business, one step closer to meeting each other in the next round.
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by Josh Tucker on Apr 28, 2009 9:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The challenger wont matter in the next round
If the Lakers didn’t have home court advantage in the WC then I would be worried well only if they played Portland. But, that will not be an issue. Besides I can defenitely see the Lakers winning at least one in Portland. Mainly because this is the playoffs. But my personal feeling is that it is going to be Houston. They do have Yao Ming but after looking at the team closer both Utah and Denver as scrapier and tougher on the boards and Houston does not have that interior toughness. The X factor is going to be how effective Bynum is going to be defensively against the Rockets. If he is a factor then that would create matchup problems for Houston. Especially because Scola will be guarding Pau which benefits the Lakers.
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Apr 28, 2009 9:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Regarding Portland at home
Keep in mind we just beat another team that was very good at home. Are they as good as Portland this year? No, but I wouldn’t say the gap is huge.
Let’s look at the home vs. away numbers for these teams:
UTAH
Home — 104.3 ppg / 95.6 opp. ppg
Road — 102.1 ppg / 106.8 opp. ppg
Home Differential — +8.7 ppg
Road Differential — -4.7 ppg
Home vs. Road Differential — +13.4 ppg
PORTLAND
Home — 103.3 ppg / 94.0 opp. ppg
Road — 94.7 ppg / 94.4 opp. ppg
Home Differential — +9.3 ppg
Road Differential — +0.3 ppg
Home vs. Road Differential — +9.0 ppg
Portland’s home differential is better than Utah’s by only about half a point. But the boost Utah receives from being at home vs. being on the road is far greater than the boost Portland receives.
Now, you do still have to factor in the fact that the Lakers struggle in Portland more than most. That’s an added quirk. Then again, the Blazers haven’t had much success in LA, either. But given all that, and how the Lakers did in Utah, I don’t really feel like it’s a stretch to suggest the Lakers can take one of the first two games in Portland. And if Portland wins a game in LA, then I think I’d feel pretty good at the Lakers chances in a closeout situation in Portland.
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by Josh Tucker on Apr 28, 2009 10:09 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Then again...
Stats are just stats. All of them. The point differentials, the win/loss streaks, the home/away records. Just numbers, at this point.
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by Josh Tucker on Apr 28, 2009 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Utah was slumping down the stretch, Portland roaring... Portland is 11-4 in their last 15 games played, with all 4 losses to the Rockets. That's just a really tough matchup for them. Pity they didn't draw the Spurs or the Hornets...
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by timbo on Apr 28, 2009 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Utah slumping...
Keep in mind Boozer decided to remember he was sort of an all-star during this series. The Jazz played like they would have won out the last 10 games of the season. They are not your typical eigth seed (detroit is).
by Justin N. on Apr 29, 2009 4:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You got it
On a sideways correlated point – it kills me when people says the stats are facts, when what they really means is that their subjective interpretation of the stats are facts.
by Gils_Keloids on Apr 28, 2009 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Keep in mind
the two games we played on portlands home-court were BOTH on the second night of a back-to-back. albeit we still should have won both those games but a factor that still should be taken into consideration.
I’m not worried whether we get Portland or Houston we’re good enough to beat either of them.
by intuitive on Apr 28, 2009 10:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think Houston is the easier matchup for the Lakers. I think their offense is weak and can by stymied. Their bigs all struggle with Pau Gasol, and I think Pau+Lamar as a combination causes them a lot of problems. Kobe would certainly have a tougher series against Houston though.
As for Portland — I think their size with Przybilla/Oden/Aldridge causes LA more problems in the paint than Houston does. I also think Brandon Roy’s creativity and playmaking ability makes Portland’s offense more dangerous.
Lakers are the clear favourite against either team.
by NBR on Apr 29, 2009 1:02 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
i think that the rockets are an easier matchup for the lakers
have you seen the rockets offense when yao is getting fronted? it’s made up of ron artest jacking up crazy shots. btw, our offense is better than their defense
by Adamas on Apr 29, 2009 1:35 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Lakers in 5
LA would beat Houston or Portland in no more than 5 games, so for me the question of who LA should play in the next round really comes down to whether my enjoyment in watching LA beat Portland in the playoffs (yet again) would be worth having to deal with all the irritating Blazer fans for another two weeks. I don’t think it matters though, I think Houston wraps it up on Thursday.
by WildYams on Apr 29, 2009 2:04 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think...
this is entirely correct. The Lakers will beat either team handily if they play properly…which they will. Will the Lakers let a 22 point lead dwindle to 5 during the series. Yes. But they will still wind handily. On to Denver.
by Justin N. on Apr 29, 2009 4:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're really scared of Denver?
I think their series with NOH isn’t anything to be worried about. NOH was a fraud all year.
Denver is better than last year, but they’re still basically the same wild Nuggets. Plus, they would need NENE to showup against the Lakers and he’s averaging 7.6 points against the Hornets. The Hornets with no frontcourt depth.
by wondahbap on Apr 29, 2009 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
HERE ARE THE RECAPS from Blazers Edge and The Dream Shake -- all three pieces being FIRST RATE and worth your time...
BLAZERS EDGE
Dave Decker:
* * * A couple of developments became apparent right away. First of all, Steve Blake wasn’t going down without a fight. Instead of dribbling around the perimeter he started taking the ball inside, freeing himself for short jumpers or a teammate for a layup or open shot. Second, the Blazers were committed to getting the ball inside no matter how they had to do it. When Brandon Roy and LaMarcus Aldridge got locked down by the Houston defense this inside play took the form of pitches to Joel Przybilla. So be it. He got a layup or two off of those passes but the points were secondary to the message: We’re not going to stay away from you tonight.
As the Blazers committed to getting the ball inside a funny thing happened. A strange noise was heard in the Rose Garden…
Tweet! * * *
http://www.blazersedge.com/2009/4/28/858531/game-5-recap-blazers-88-rockets
Ben Golliver:
* * * When Brandon finally sat down at the long press conference table, he looked tired. He looked a little pale. And he looked proud.
Whether he remembers it clearly through the influenza fog or whether the game film will be needed to jog his memory, Brandon led his team to their best defensive effort of the season, bar none. With the exception of a red-hot Luis Scola, the Blazers’ defensive energy and, I hate to use Nate’s favorite word, scrappiness contained every Rocket, nudging up the degree of difficulty on shot after shot and virtually eliminating offensive rebounds or second chance points for the Rockets. Despite finishing with a double-double, Yao Ming was a non-factor for much of the game and Aaron Brooks, much to Steve Blake’s delight, decided to come back to Earth, struggling through a 6 for 20. Game 4 Hero Shane Battier had the same number of field goals as Brian Cook; Ron Artest was just plain ill-advised. * * *
http://www.blazersedge.com/2009/4/29/858545/game-5-media-row-report
THE DREAM SHAKE
Tom Martin:
Talk about a role reversal. A frustrating, sickening role reversal.
For two home games, we were clutch. We made big shots. We grabbed offensive rebounds. We made defensive stops late. And most importantly, we were composed.
Tonight, Portland was clutch. Portland made big shots, grabbed offensive rebounds, stopped us on defense, and most importantly, were composed and level-headed on offense. They found Brandon Roy when we couldn’t find Yao Ming. And worst of all, Rockets fans had to sit through this display in the form of a Blazer 15-0 run.
Paging Twittering Rick Adelman. Mr. Rick Adelman.
But then there was hope. Portland started missing shots; they looked like the road Blazers. Ron Artest made a three pointer, Luis Scola made a layup, and suddenly, it was a five point game. Yet, as soon as hope was giveth, hope was suddenly snatched away. Our bad habits awoke from their temporary slumber, in the form of The Aaron Brooks show. Brooks must’ve forgotten about his midgetness and took his game into the paint against Joel Przybilla and Greg Oden. End result: Joel eats Aaron’s lunch, takes his ball away, and shoves him into his locker. * * *
http://www.thedreamshake.com/2009/4/29/858385/playoff-recap
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by timbo on Apr 29, 2009 8:04 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Fair enough
I get it. Portland is playing its best ball of the season, it’s a force to be reckoned with. We’ll see what happens. And we’ll see if they can do what was described above in Houston.
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by Josh Tucker on Apr 29, 2009 8:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is the question...
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by timbo on Apr 29, 2009 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
whoops... Dave DECKARD.
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by timbo on Apr 29, 2009 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't get the double standards people have
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Isn’t this ten times more douche-y than anything Kobe has ever done during a game?
Josh, if you think this is too inflammatory, feel free to delete, but sometimes I just don’t get it. A lot of times, actually.
by Gils_Keloids on Apr 29, 2009 9:30 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
KG is an idiot. He plays for the perfect team. So does Starbury.
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by timbo on Apr 29, 2009 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Extremely douche-y
What gets under people’s skin about Kobe is his innocent acting after doing anything douche-y (all players do something irritating in their careers, not trying to single Kobe out here), while KG is a straight out wuss-thug (meaning he runs away like a pussy if the other guy is at least nearly his size).
I rooted for the Lakers in the Championship last year, and if they are against the Cavs or Celtics I will root for them again.
by staylost on Apr 29, 2009 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
KG's knees went after LO went nose to nose with him.
It was karma.
by wondahbap on Apr 29, 2009 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know this for sure
But Kobe doesn’t seem to talk trash unless talked trash to.
If a hostile crowd is on his case, he will respond, sometimes inappropriately, but you should hear some of the things these drunken fans say.
KG just seems like an instigator and a poor sport.
by Gils_Keloids on Apr 29, 2009 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's true
I’ve read a couple of articles interviewing NBA players about Kobe, and to a man, they all say that Kobe is very, very quiet on the court… unless you start talking to him. Don’t start talking to him, and he won’t say anything. But as soon as you open that can of worms, you better know what you’re getting into.
Meanwhile, take a look at how Kobe acted after Raja Bell clotheslined him, and then turned to the bench, pointed, and shouted, “There’s your foul!” (Making it obvious that it was extremely deliberate, and that harm was intended.)
- Kobe got up, figuratively dusted off his shoulders, smiled wryly, shook his head, and then came back at Raja Bell — with his game.
- Laker players didn’t go all Phoenix on Raja, storming off the bench and creating a huge fracas. And believe me, it would have been more warranted than when Steve Nash was bumped into the scoring table. But they stayed put, didn’t create a huge to-do, and responded with the basketball, rather than with physical force and retaliation. That’s the kind of smart, heady play you expect of high level athletes in situations where every possession counts and losing your head hurts your team.
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by Josh Tucker on Apr 29, 2009 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Walk down memory lane
I only wish the Lakers could have pulled out game six, so that Raja’s suspension was not for naught.
by Gils_Keloids on Apr 29, 2009 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I only wish that Lamar _fouled_ Shawn Marion after the rebound.
Then no 3 pointer.
by wondahbap on Apr 29, 2009 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stupid Tim Thomas
Rent-a-forward
by Gils_Keloids on Apr 29, 2009 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
KG gets away with it
because he was a loser for so many years.
by wondahbap on Apr 29, 2009 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If I thought it was inflammatory...
I wouldn’t have put it in a FanPost, along with video and a link to the HP article, on the front page.
No, this is sports, and sportsmanship is a real issue. This is the behavior of the #1 star on a rival team, and it’s something we dealt with, as well. It’s why my dad’s hatred for the Celtics is now my own (not just KG — that attitude and poor sportsmanship has rubbed off on the whole team).
So it’s relevant.
Besides, the only thing inflammatory about it is that it is happening in the first place. If Celtics fans want to get upset about it, they can address their concerns to KG, the man responsible for all of this in the first place.
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by Josh Tucker on Apr 29, 2009 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I liked Garnett until he went to the Celtics
It’s a shame, too. Something about that uniform turns players sour.
by illcowboy on Apr 30, 2009 12:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

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