Lamar Odom, With Range
From the moment, last February, that the Lakers acquired Pau Gasol, one question dominated the conversation for the Lakers: Can Andrew Bynum and Pau Gasol play well together? For my part, I never expected any trouble on the front line. As I wrote before the 2008-09 season started:
Picture the two of them as concentric circles. They don’t conflict with each other; they complement each other. Bynum does what Gasol hates doing: bodying up to the bigs and playing with his back to the basket. Gasol, then, is freed up to work from the elbows, playing the short- to mid-range game with hook shots from either hand and soft jumpers from inside the free throw line. Bynum will be a better and more physical defender under the basket, while Gasol’s length will bother opposing power forwards.
As I saw it, Lamar Odom was the real problem. With only one or the other of Gasol and Bynum in the lineup, Odom played at the power forward position, and did so fairly well. But with both in the lineup, Odom would be pushed to the small forward spot — a position I didn't think he would excel in, and one in which he would hurt the Lakers.
Not anymore.
My primary reason for being against Lamar Odom at the small forward position was his lack of range. As I wrote at the beginning of the season:
The Triangle Offense needs shooters to space the floor, and the lane is going to be very busy with Gasol and Bynum sharing space and Bryant and Ariza slashing to the basket. But Odom is not a long range shooter; in fact, the period during which he showed major improvement last just happens to coincide with the point at which he virtually stopped attempting three-point shots altogether.
So if Odom is not a shooter, how can he expect to have success at one of the wing positions, which in the Triangle Offense almost requires one to be a good shooter? My fear is that he won’t. He’ll struggle with his jumpshot, he won’t have enough room to get closer to the basket, and he’ll be stuck on the outside, unable to dominate in rebounding as he did for much of last year. I get that Odom is a selfish player who would actually enjoy not needing to shoot as much, but the Lakers need their wing players to be viable long distance threats. Even if they don’t take many shots, they have to keep the defense honest. Odom won’t do that. Defenses will play off him, taking away his drive and clogging up the rest of the floor.
The Triangle Offense needs shooters. It spaces the floor, keeps the defense honest, and allows the offense to run as it should. This is even more true with several inside threats on the floor. It's no coincidence that sharp shooters like Derek Fisher and Robert Horry have thrived in the system, both in the past and present.
With this in mind, have a look at Odom's Hot Spots chart from the 2007-08 season:
Red = above average, gray = average, blue = below average
As you can see, Odom shot poorly from virtually every spot behind the three-point arc. He also wasn't much better on jumpshots inside the arc. On long two-pointers, he was poor to average, at best. In fact, the only part of the floor from which he shot well was at the basket, and on close shots to the left.
LO's overall 3-point percentage for the 2007-08 season was a dismal 27.4 percent. He did have a brief hot streak in February, in which he shot .533 (take that, TrueHoop!)... but then, that only balances out the .191 he shot in November, and the .136 he shot in January.
In short, if Odom wasn't going left and getting to the basket, he wasn't making it.
That appears to have changed. Have a look at his 2008-09 regular season Hot Spots chart:
The first thing you should notice is a lot more red, over the entire court. One of those red zones is even beyond the 3-point arc. He's still shooting poorly from certain parts of the floor, but if you use Hot Spots very much, you'll find that this is the case with the vast majority of players. Overall, he's shooting over .500 in three different long-range 2-point zones — typically considered the toughest shots on the court.
From 3-point range, he's gone from four blue zones to two. From three out of five 3-point zones, he's shooting average or better.
On the season, Odom is shooting 32 percent from beyond the arc — no 3-point speciaist, to be sure, but solidly average and a large improvement over last season. Since the All-Star Break, he's shooting .333, and in April, he's shooting a very respectable .357.
While Hot Spots don't give us many options for viewing more recent performance — we can't, for example, look at the last 25 games, or the second half of the season — we can look at the last 10 and the last five games.
Lamar Odom over the last 10 games:
Ironically, Odom has been particularly strong from the right side of the court. He's got a number of weak spots and zero average zones, but seven out of 14 zones on the court are red over the last 10 games.
His Hot Spots over the last five games:
In the last five games, he's continued his solid shooting. He's completely avoided certain areas of the floor, but he's only got four blue zones on the entire floor. Meanwhile, he's still shooting average or above from seven offensive zones. Best of all, he doesn't have a single blue zone from 3-point range in the last five games.
Overall, it's clear that Lamar Odom's shooting has improved significantly across the entire court, and he's performing particularly well of late. Is it enough to make him an effective small forward in the Triangle offense? Perhaps, indeed. And if Phil chooses to use him in that role, he'll have the opportunity to provide the rebounding, help defense, and defensive and offensive versatility that he brings to the table.
Let's hope this trend continues, and Lamar Odom becomes a bona fide long distance threat. In the meantime, he may just be good enough to play at the 3 spot without significantly hurting the team on offense, providing the Lakers with versatility, as well as strength and size, on both ends of the court.
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I think
Odom can play the 3 spot OK but I’d rather have Ariza in the starting lineup any day over Odom. That’s not neccesarily because Odom is worse but because he works better with the second unit and leads it. Ariza can shoot better and he plays better defense, though Odom is physically bigger and can guard the 3 or the 4.
It's tough to critique LO
First off I have to make my point of view clear. I do not think that his salary equals his production. But, every Laker fan will always say that they will love to have LO on the Lakers and that he is a fan favorite. But, when referring to LO and the question starts off with, “who would you rathe have LO or….” Then there will always be an argument when such a question is posed about LO. But, I think that offensively speaking the Lakers do not need anymore players who can produce offensively. They have always needed a player at his position who can defend regardless of whether he was a small forward or power forward LO’s purpose should be solely to defend. That is what cost the Lakers the title. It was not LO’s fault but it was the need on the defensive end that was an issue. With Bynum and Ariza hurt that was more essential than anything. Last year Kobe was relied on the offensive end and he was responsible for defending both Pierce and Rondo. This year now that Bynum and Ariza are back that position still requires defense and rebounding. Utah still out muscles the Lakers and I hate to see Bynum and LO underneath the basket just to see Millsap and any other Utah Forward just out muscle them. That should not happen. LO will fine offensively but this team needs other things from him that have nothing to do with offense. Just think Horace Grant!
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Apr 22, 2009 6:48 PM PDT reply actions
Odom is a 4, not a 3.
I don’t see any evidence to the contrary.
But a team needs at least 3 capable bigs, and the Lakers have them with Odom (4), Gasol (4/5), and Bynum (5).
Pontiff of the Pryz for Prez Posse...
Kobe was being interviewed today on the radio and he was asked something along the lines of would lamar be leaving after this year and kobe said nope he doesn’t see him going anywhere.
also, i’m a firm believer that lamar does the little things that dont show up on that stat sheet like tipping out rebounds, setting screens, etc.
good to see his jump shot has been improving these last few games as well =)
He is needed
Odam has to be that dominate when he plays and it looks like he is growing in the system and that is a great plus for the Lakers because as long as he keeps being effective, then we know the bench is being effective and Lakers can’t go anywhere without there bench so it is nice to see Lamar do his thing.
Lamar Odom is underappreciated
Sure if you look at pure numbers he’s not worth the money, but the intangibles he brings are immense.
One of my favorite sequences yesterday was when Lamar worked hard to tip a rebound out and it was picked up by the Lakers at the top of the circle. After recovering himself, Lamar drifted down to the corner three and drained a wide open one. Hustle and rewards. Gotta love it.
I remember that
That was an awesome play. He had two or three such sequences last night.
Strength & Honor
I could see it, but only in spurts
I think that it would probably be a bad idea to start Odom a the 3 and move Ariza to the bench, just because it would weaken the frontcourt rotation a lot (I would assume Powell would take over Odom’s current role of backup 4), and because Ariza would get a lot less playing time. Also, Odom’s role would change in a way that doesn’t play to his strengths for much of the game, especially on defense where he’d be needed to chase around much smaller, faster guys on the perimeter, thus pulling him away from the basket where he gets all those defensive rebounds. The Laker rotation is pretty good as is for now.
That said, I really would like to see Odom at the 3 occasionally, particularly down the stretch in close games against an opponent with a lot of size, but only if it also meant moving Ariza to the backcourt alongside Kobe. Against maybe Houston or Denver, it would be great to suddenly see those teams have to matchup with a Bynum, Gasol, Odom, Kobe, Ariza squad out there for the last 5 minutes or so.
I always wondered
Why Phil does not use that line up to experiment. Bynum, Gasol, Odom, Kobe and Ariza. They would be the best rebounding team ever. As you said, even for 5 minutes or so.
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Apr 23, 2009 7:37 AM PDT up reply actions
And potentially quite good defensively
There are certainly vulnerabilities with that lineup, but I still really want to see it.
Strength & Honor
I want to see it too! But with all the guys they’d clog up the paint and I think that’s why Phil hasn’t really tried it out.
But as someone has said recently
I’m not sure offense is even the issue. I mean, we say defense is our biggest issue, so why is it that whenever we talk about rotations, we talk about offensive issues? I think this rotation could be excellent defensively (if they try, of course). And honestly, even if it’s not our most effective offensive rotation, it’ll still be better than most of the rest of the league.

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