Lakers vs. Jazz Game 2: The Good, The Bad And The Ugly
Two games into the playoffs and the Lakers are 2-0. Not too shabby if you ask me, but now they head to Salt Lake City where they'll have to play in Energy Solutions Arena, one of the NBA's toughest venues. Before we jump ahead to Game 3 though, let's take a look back at Game 2.
The Good
Shannon Brown- Maybe it's because as a throw in in a midseason trade we don't expect much from Brown, but the guy is playing fantastic right now. I could get into the 12 points Brown scored, which included his fourth and fifth three pointers of the series. I could even talk about his two assists or his monster dunk, but I want to talk about his defense. Let's think about this. Deron Williams went into halftime with 17 points. He scored just one of those points against Brown. The rest were scored with Fisher on the court. Brown went up against one of the NBA's top point guards and played as good of defense as you're going to play against a guy that good. Sure, Williams picked it up against Brown in the second half, but the first half showed flashes and when was the last time the Lakers had a point guard who played that kind of defense?
Ball Movement- The Lakers had 33 assists on 45 made field goals. Kobe had nine assists, as did Ariza. Fish and Walton each chipped in with five as well. The triangle was working to perfection, especially in the first quarter when the Lakers shot 86%, but it wasn't due to great shooting. The Lakers had very few contested jumpers in the first half and many were within 12 feet. Yes, some of it was due to poor defense on Utah's part, but you cannot dismiss the efficiency with which the Lakers ran their offense. The Lakers score 48 points in the paint, but they weren't driving the ball to the hoop. Instead were moving the ball and making the Jazz switch until they were able to hit a big man, usually coming from weakside to strongside, for an easy basket. The spacing was phenomenal and as a result, the Lakers has passing lanes to move the ball and move the ball they did. LA had found success against the Utah defense this year with the two man game on the weak side of the offense, but today they used the traingle on the strong side to space the Utah defense and prey upon Jerry Sloan's unwillingness to double. At that point it was just child's play and the ball just kept moving until the Lakers got an easy look at the basket that has become commonplace in this series
Late Game Pick and Roll Defense- Derek Fisher has a rough game until the tail end of the fourth quarter, especially on defense. Williams absolutely torched him and made him look more like 44 years old, instead of 34. At the end of the game though, when the Jazz went almost exclusively to isolation plays for WIlliams and more often, the pick and roll with Boozer, Fisher, with help from Gasol, played fantastic defense. Gasol used his length on the hedge to keep WIlliams from turning the corner and he bought time for Fish to get back into position. Meanwhile, Fish tied up Boozer on the screen so Boozer couldn't slip the screen. When you want to watch exactly how to defend the pick and roll, check out the job the Lakers did at the end of Game 2.
Trevor Ariza- Ariza only scored 13 in Game 2 as opposed to his 21 in Game 1, but you could argue he had an even bigger impact in the series' second contest. As mentioned earlier, Ariza had nine assists tonight so he kept the ball moving and found the right man. He used his length to pick up a couple of steal and came back to the boards for five rebounds on the night. Most notably though, Ariza got the late steal that led to a fastbreak with he and Odom to stretch the Lakers' lead in one of the game's biggest moments. Then, with 33.9 seconds the world's best closer gave the ball up to give Ariza a chance to seal up the ball game. Ariza answered the call by knocking down the three and wrapping the game up. When the game's best closer is willing to give up a shot to get you one in a late playoff game, you know you've arrived and Ariza certainly has.
The Bad
Andrew Bynum- I know he's still working his way back from surgery, but he needs to be better. Bynum finished with 10 points, all against Jarron Collins in Collins' 13 minutes. Bynum stayed out of foul trouble to play 31 minutes, but he only had four rebounds. Yes, he did block four shots, but if Okur comes back and is anywhere near 100%, Bynum will be in trouble unless he elevates his game.
Turnovers- The Lakers cannot expect to turn the ball over 21 times and win many games. They got away with this one, but it's not something they should make a habit. In each of the Jazz' runs, the Lakers turned the ball over at a ridiculous rate so not only were they getting empty possessions, but they were giving up easy buckets on the other end. Had the Lakers simply ben able to hang on to the ball, they'd have won by 20. Now they head to Utah where it's really easy for one turnover to become three and four. Hold onto the ball!
The Crowd- Sure, it was nice when they cheered before the game or for a big dunk, but is it really too much to ask to stand up for important possessions or cheer because it's a big moment in the game? The Lakers' lead was down to three late in the game and the fans couldn't be bothered to stand and cheer. Maybe they need to be reminded that you're allowed to cheer without the videoboard telling you to or the rhythms for chants being played on the speakers.
The Ugly
Can We Please Bump A Cutter?- I mentioned this after our regular season finale versus the Jazz, in my series preview and to anyone that would listen for most of the season. We need to bump cutters. Cutters are able to run off of screens and anywhere on the court without being bumped diverted from their intended path against the Lakers and this has been a common theme. It doesn't take much effort to do it, but it gives trailing defenders the opportunity to catch up to their man when they come off of screens and it disrupts the rhythm of the offense. You don't think Williams knows exactly where every one of his players is at all times just by looking at a play develop? Bump a cutter just once and all of a sudden that cutter is getting to the open space just a split second later or getting there while his man is recovering. Come on Lakers, it's not overly physical, but it bring some toughness and effectiveness to your defense.
Kobe's Roaming- I know Kobe does this all of the time and for the most part it works extremely well, but it's time to adjust. Ronnie Brewer isn't going to beat Kobe because Kobe is roaming around the court, but the subsequent rotations will beat the defense and it has from time to time. Fact is, the Jazz have the ball in Williams' hand most of the time and he's not going to make many ill advised passes for Kobe to get his hands on. Kobe's roaming works well most of the time, but there are a select few point guards and offenses for which it won't work and Williams in Utah's is one of them.
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The Staples Center can be absolutely dead silent at times. I understand the absurb lower level pricing alienates the diehards from the casual rich but the disparity of volume in the arena of when the jumbotran is playing versus not playing is disturbing. Home Court should be more wild and consistently loud.
That will Always be an issue...
….As someone who cannot afford to pay for the lower level seating games I can say that it is very common for Laker fans to be that way. Especially the fans that sit on the lower levels. I have been fortunate enough on several occasions to be given tickets that are on the lower level and it seems that a lot of people just go because they just want to say that they went. It is so common to someone at the game who is just on their cell phone or texting and not even paying attention to the game. But that is so much more rare to see in the upper seats. The only time that I have seen it get wild is during the game against the Jazz last year when Kobe won the MVP. But aside from that it is just like being back in high school people just go because it’s more of a popularity contest. Because if ever in my life I am ever blessed to have a floor level seat I will probably get kicked out because I would be going nuts…
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Apr 22, 2009 7:43 AM PDT up reply actions
nah
youll just be that guy we always see on tv with the multi-colored afro jumping up and down all the time. haha, seriously though, i get your point, we should strive to make more money to turn the staples center into a more rowdy place
Bills make me wanna SHOUT!
by silverstreak3k on Apr 22, 2009 7:46 AM PDT up reply actions
that's no exageration
I probably will be that guy. I have always wanted the Lakers to have the type of announcer that the Pistons have or had. By the way, where is that guy that used to do the intro for the bulls when Jordan played. That guys was awesome. That guy that does the intro for the Lakers has a very deep voice but that dude belongs on the radio or on some love songs radio station.
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Apr 22, 2009 7:52 AM PDT up reply actions
tanter?
i believe he IS on a love song radio station. i have to agree with you though. the man is boring. they need to bring in somebody with energy. i can’t see tanter losing his job because he has been with the team for 20+ years
oh well...
we have to do with who we have.
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Apr 22, 2009 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions
I think the principle that in sold out arenas the rowdier fans are higher up and the courtside fans are more sedate is universal...
…………………………. But there is something about the lower level Staples crowd that is DISTURBINGLY aloof. This is the playoffs and it’s a real ho-hum for some of these people, it would seem. Just keep in mind how golf crowd Staples was in these two games and compare and contrast to the Utah crowd in the next two games… Even though their team is undermanned, demoralized, and has their backs to the wall after 2 losses, those people will be NUTS. And it definitely is something that will help the Jazz.
Will it be enough to help the Jazz over the top to win? if they get their Center back, it might…
Pontiff of the Pryz for Prez Posse...
I just haven’t seen the emotion and dedication I’ve seen in other arenas. Blazers, Celtics, Spurs, Cavs all were more spirited in the lower level seatings. Maybe it’s the dim lighting which make people forget it’s a sporting event and not a movie. Last year’s 24 point lead loss was partial due to the crowd’s disinterest and lack of fight.
Do the lakers bigs know how to hedge at all on pick and roll D? It amazes me that the Lakers can be so bad at this. Every time Utah sets a pick for Dwill he can take a wide open shot.
[color="#008000"]"There are no next times when you're competing for big things." - Tom Izzo
Go Spartans[/color]
I have always wondered...
Is this a coaching issue. I remember that when Troy Hudson played for the T-wolves way back during the Shaq-Kobe days and he averaged more then 20 pts during that series and the following year he got a fat contract because of it. That is all owed to the Lakers Inability to defend the pick n’ roll way back then. So, who knows, maybe the coaching staff does not know how to coach defense on the pick n’roll. But one thing is for sure, Shaq didn’t like to defend it and I can see Gasol make a better effort as for Bynum let’s hope he gets it. Because if the Lakers continue to defend like that they are going to have a harder time beating other teams in the later rounds.
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Apr 22, 2009 7:49 AM PDT up reply actions
You are correct sir.
My name isn't really Iggy.
Also just perused the game thread over at SLC dunk
Seriously, what is wrong with people that makes them turn all their negative energy on Kobe?
On their front post, Kobe is called a “huge d*ck” and an “a**” (I censored it, but it’s not censored on the post). The thread comments aren’t much better.
I think that Bill Simmons described it best when .......
….he describes Kobe haters as people who look at everything he does with a glas Half-Empty mentality. No matter what he does, Kobe haters will look at the negative side of it or at least find one. There is nothing that anyone can do about that.
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Apr 22, 2009 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions
To be fair: one would expect that Kobe would not be the most popular player in the state of Utah, given the location of "the purported incident"...
That said, he does draw an enormous amount of negative energy around the league. I made up a list of “hated Laker players” in the eyes of the rank-and-file Blazer fans (who CAN NOT STAND the Lakers as a team), and Kobe was 1, 2, and 3, with Lamar Odom and Trevor Ariza filling out the top 5.
I’m not quite sure the cause of this. It definitely predates “the purported incident” and it is fairly similar around the league, I think, differing in intensity but not in fundamental nature.
I suspect part of it has to do with a reaction to normal superstar swagger (which Kobe has), part of it has to do with the perception that Kobe as a player has in the past made himself bigger than the team and dissed his teammates (the “bring me players or I’m leaving” schtick when the Lakers were rebuilding), part of it has to do with jealousy that he is a player capable of taking over and winning a game in a most aggressive and humiliating manner, and part of it has to do with the fact that other franchises simply don’t like the Lakers much due to their past success — with Kobe a physical symbolic of the franchise.
But, yeah, they don’t like him very much in Salt Lake City…
Pontiff of the Pryz for Prez Posse...
But the purported incident
Happened in Colorado
by Gils_Keloids on Apr 22, 2009 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Here's a pretty astute observation from their game thread by one of the regulars at SLC Dunk:
Odom is 8-9 and Gasol is 9-11.
We can’t win when that happens. It is just deflating. Bryant doesn’t even need to do anything.
by clarkpojo on Apr 21, 2009 10:18 PM PDT
Pontiff of the Pryz for Prez Posse...
How amazing is it..
When looking at it from a Jazz’s fan point of view it would seem that Kobe just passes the ball. However, when the game is broken down on TNT after the Lakers beat them. All I see is how when Kobe has the ball, all eyes are on him. It is his presence that dictates what the Jazz’s defense does. Especially when he is in the post. Kobe is so great that he decides when he wants to take over and when to be a facilitator. But since there is no way to measure that in a stat sheet then it goes unnoticed.
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Apr 22, 2009 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions
If it's not on the stat sheet
then it doesn’t exist
by Gils_Keloids on Apr 22, 2009 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Ask yourself: Who is more important to the Lakers' success on the Laker team if they are going to win a title?
Kobe Bryant can have monster games and his team can still lose to the elite teams in the league. If the Lakers are going to win anything of significance this year, it will be Gasol or Odom or Bynum that allows them to do so. The Jazz are doubling Kobe and keeping a close eye on him, but Kobe had only two assists that led to baskets by Gasol and Odom. And Gasol and Odom went 17-20 from the field and they were creating their own shots. When you guys go up against a team who has defenders who can play Bynum and Gasol one on one, you will miss your open 3 point shots and Kobe won’t have as much room. He may get his, but the Lakers won’t get theirs.
I’ll even go as far as to say that if the Jazz could defend Gasol and Bynum one on one, they would win this series.
And if the Lakers don’t win it all this year, they would be best off trading Kobe for some missing pieces.
The more you try to erase me, the more that I appear.
Basically, Kobe hasn't been the best player on the floor in either game 1 or game 2.
The more you try to erase me, the more that I appear.
Kobe is always the best player on the floor....
He may not have had the best game, but he is always the best player on the floor. If Michael Phelps has a bad race, he is still the best swimmer in the pool.
"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley
Kobe is always the best player on the floor
He is pretty much always the orchestrator, the conductor of the team.
And he draws defensive attention even when he’s not directly involved in the play.
by Gils_Keloids on Apr 22, 2009 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I completely agree that it takes good performance from 2 of the 3 bigs for the Lakers to have success this year.
If the Lakers are going to win anything of significance this year, it will be Gasol or Odom or Bynum that allows them to do so…. Gasol and Odom went 17-20 from the field and they were creating their own shots.
Pontiff of the Pryz for Prez Posse...
I've made the argument
that Pau Gasol is the Lakers MVP this year.
But as far as Kobe — I feel like you’re judging his value based on two decent (not even bad) games in the Playoffs against a far-overmatched Jazz team. I also feel like you’re underestimating his ability to win games, both single-handedly and by setting up his team.
And as far as trading Kobe for “missing pieces” is concerned… I must respectfully disagree! And I have to wonder what missing pieces you’re talking about. This team looks about as complete as you’ll find in the league.
My name isn't really Iggy.
Still have to disagree
Re-watch the first halves of Games 1 and 2, when things were going well for the Lakers. In neither half was Kobe scoring absurd amounts of points, but if you pay attention, you see him orchestrating the entire game like a puppet master — reading defenses, drawing double-, triple-, and even quadruple-teams, finding wide open teammates in every area of the floor, and even when he’s not assisting, tilting the defense off balance and then making the first of several passes that will eventually be an open shot, because the defense could never catch up after tilting towards Kobe. In fact, I’d argue that Kobe’s performance in the first halves of both games has been equally as devastating to the Jazz, if not more so, than some of his past individual offensive explosions.
Isn’t it ironic, how when he was scoring inordinate amounts of points, the haters criticized him for shooting too much, trying to do too much himself, not getting his teammates involved… but now that he’s doing exactly that, orchestrating the entire game like a conductor, making everyone around him better, and excelling in other ways than just scoring points, suddenly all they care about is scoring, and if he’s not doing it, he’s not that good. Gotta love it.
Strength & Honor
Completely agreed
Kobe has had an excellent Playoffs so far!
I think his mere presence on the court is enough in many situations to “ice” a game… he gives his team a psychological edge, simply by being on the floor.
Pau Gasol has had such a consistently productive year, scoring and rebounding efficiently and doing tons of other things on offense AND defense. He’s had a massive impact on the Lakers’ regular season record since arriving from Memphis — an impact that often doesn’t get enough credit. BUT I think as the regular season transitions to the post-season, it’s going to be No. 24 leading the charge.
My name isn't really Iggy.
Overly simplistic, to a fault
- There are few teams, if any, that can guard two of the Bynum/Gasol/Odom triumvirate at the same time. That includes Boston and Cleveland. It simply will not be happening.
- You’re making *PaGfL*’s point with the way you’re talking about Kobe. He said that when Kobe’s not scoring, no one notices what he does. Sure enough, you talk about Kobe’s impact as though scoring is the only thing he does. Way to make his point for him.
- You really think Kobe doesn’t affect the game in a million different ways, aside from scoring? Go back and watch the Lakers vs. Cavs game in Cleveland, where Kobe had the flu. And it was bad. In that game, he was hardly able to do anything. He hit that sick fadeaway over LeBron, and he scored a few points, but if you watch the game from start to finish, it becomes painfully obvious that all the things he usually brings to the game are missing. And it’s when he’s not able to do them that it becomes clear that even when he’s not scoring, rebounding, or directly assisting, everything — and I mean everything — the Lakers do well starts with Kobe. Period.
- How convenient of you to throw out Kobe’s 7 other assists, just because they don’t meet your arbitrary criterion of being delivered to Gasol and Odom. Here’s a news flash: Those assists count every bit as much, regardless of whether it’s Odom and Gasol cashing in on them, or Fisher and Ariza. Why? Because in either case, they’re points — wide open, easy points.
Strength & Honor
+1
I was going to post almost the exact same thing but didn’t want to take the time.
On the assists, 33 assists in 45 makes. I’m pretty sure Kobe was responsible for at least 5-7 unassisted shots, so Pau and LO’s baskets were coming on assists from someone.
Welcome
Welcome Jazz Fan. It is always good to get a non- Laker fan’s point of view. First off to your comment about that even if Kobe has a Monster game the Lakers will still loose. Isn’t the true with every great player? Offensively, Deron is probably the best player on the Jazz team. In game two, he had a monster game and the Jazz still lost. It is for the same reason why in the past the Lakers would loose when Kobe had huge games. Keep in mind that this all applies only prior to last season. Before Fisher, Gasol, and Bynum was became a contributor. No one was making shots. The same can be said about the Jazz. Until someone helps Deron the Jazz are not going to win. Since last, there hasn’t been a need for Kobe to score or have huge games. He has without a doubt the deepest team in the NBA. Actually, the Lakers are a better team this year and Kobe has to do even less. Especially with Bynum and Ariza back and healthy. As far as saying that if the Lakers face a team that can guard Bynum and Gasol the Lakers will win is incorrect. Number one there is no fact to back that up. For starters, Bynum and Gasol have not played together long enough to make that conclusion. After they play a full playoffs or full season or at least 80% of it together then we will see. Not because I a Laker fan but I doubt that even if that happens there is no way that the Lakers will start missing threes. All that being said, Kobe doesn’t have to be the best player. It’s not like his starting line up is Smush, Mihm, Kwame and Odom.
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Apr 22, 2009 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Actually
It’s not necessarily true with each player. Look up the win/loss records when Kobe scores 50+… it may surprise you.
Strength & Honor
good point...
but I think that sometimes stats are or can be deceiving. Mainly because someone can use something like stat and right away make a comment that the Lakers are better off without Kobe. Just look at the jazz fan he said, “they would be best off trading Kobe for some missing pieces”
I think when we are talking in perspective of the whole season and someone trying to dimish Kobe’s importance to this team by using those stats it kind of way off.
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Apr 22, 2009 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
The haters are always trying to find ways to
Diminish Kobe’s importance to the Lakers’ success. What’s new?
by Gils_Keloids on Apr 22, 2009 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Staples center...
I blame the lights being off. It makes people want to go to sleep. Also, when you’re there watching a Laker game, you feel isolated. Part of getting a crowd going is allowing them to feed off the energy of eachother, if that makes any sense.
Other arenas do it as well
and it’s not as quiet there as at Staples. Also, the crowd wasn’t much better at Staples before they did the light out thing.
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Apr 22, 2009 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Lakers-2, Jazz-0
In all, the Lakers posted 7 players in double figures, shot 60% for the game, recorded 33 assists, and sent the Jazz heading for home down 0-2 and wondering how to slow down this offensive juggernaut. More here: http://steveodesignedge.wordpress.com/

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