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Playoff Gods Adjust Size of Blazers' Britches

HOUSTON - APRIL 5: Yao Ming #11 of the Houston Rockets shoots the ball over Brandon Roy #7 of the Portland Trail Blazers on April 5, 2009 at the Toyota Center in Houston, Texas.  (Photo by Bill Baptist/NBAE via Getty Images)

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10 months ago: HOUSTON - APRIL 5: Yao Ming #11 of the Houston Rockets shoots the ball over Brandon Roy #7 of the Portland Trail Blazers on April 5, 2009 at the Toyota Center in Houston, Texas. (Photo by Bill Baptist/NBAE via Getty Images)

Having won eight straight in Portland against the Lakers, and looking forward to a likely first round matchup with a wounded Spurs team that they had just defeated in San Antonio, Portland fans were beginning to get too big for their britches.

The Playoff Gods appear to have taken note, coming through with a last-minute change that puts Portland back in its place: On the final day of the regular season, a subtle but significant change in the standings now pits Portland against Houston.

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Within moments of the creation of this blog, Portland Trailblazer fans arrived on the scene, trumpeting their team's success against ours in the Rose Garden and warning Lakers fans not to presume that their team was headed to the Finals.

Lakers fans, they insisted, were acting too big for their britches, making assumptions they shouldn't have by looking forward to the Finals. Portland, they were here to announce, would be their second round foe, and many of these fans -- BEdgers, they call themselves -- seemed quite confident that the Blazers could handle the Lakers in Round 2.

With this last second twist delivered by Bracketeus, god of playoff seeding, it seems these BEdgers have been guilty of not taking their own advice. Assuming they would beat a weakened Spurs team and taking for granted their team's advancement to the second round looks now to have been overly presumptive, as they now face a much tougher foe and are in no way guaranteed to make it past Round 1.

The Houston Rockets are not the San Antonio Spurs. They are not dangerously close to being "too old," and the loss of their dynamic wingman seems almost to have helped them, rather than hurt them. They are capable of playing stifling defense, have a whole string of very key victories against very tough teams to their credit, and at the start of the season, were selected by many prominent analysts as the favorites not only to win the Western Conference, but to bring home the championship.

Most significantly, they've had no touble beating the Blazers this season.

Houston won the 3-game season series with Portland this year, winning two out of three games. Their only loss to Portland came back in November, and Portland needed overtime and a miraculous 31-foot buzzer beater from Brandon Roy to squeak out a win.

Not exactly the type of record that assures a second round appearance.

I expect this series to be a good one, hard fought and going to at least six games, perhaps seven. In the end, I'm predicting a Houston victory. Portland is simply too inexperienced, and Houston is just too tough, for the Blazers to force the Rockets into a humbling first-round exit -- Rose Garden or not.

In the meantime, BEdgers might want to take some of their own advice, and focus on their more immediate opponents before looking ahead to a far-from-certain second round matchup with the Lakers.

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How will Portland fare in the first round against Houston?
Easy win for Portland
87 votes
Easy win for Houston
26 votes
Tough series, but Portland wins
360 votes
Tough series, but Houston wins
111 votes

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Rockets in 6

"There's a thin line between to laugh with and to laugh at." - Richard Pryor

by DennardC on Apr 16, 2009 2:15 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I completely agree,

and this is comin from a Blazers fan

Resident Smartass.

by Devyn on Apr 16, 2009 2:44 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Blazer fan?

hardly, going to be a tough battle, but Blazers in 7.

#10 Pryzbilla the Vanilla Gorilla

by Hookah_John on Apr 16, 2009 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t recognize Mr. Pooponmyface as a BEdge person… hmmm…

"The brownies,'' Fernandez said after the game. "The brownies are good for me to make three-points.''

- from Quick's Behind the Blazers Locker Room Door, 4/16/09

by ArbyOSU on Apr 17, 2009 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can't wait to come back and see how this is working out for you

The Blazers have a much tougher RD 1 opponent, one we haven’t had great success with, but also one who we’ve had nothing but close games with. You make it sound like they blew us out twice and we had no answer.

Hopefully, if your God, Bracketeus, allows us past Houston, we’ll enjoy ourselves an awesome series with the lakers.

Witty Unpredictable Talent and Natural Game

by iDea on Apr 16, 2009 2:44 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

F**ing BRING ON THE BLAZERS!! BRING THEIR F**ing **** ON!!!

Bring them on!! Hurry up and beat the rockets so we can play your *. You make the playoffs for the first time in 4 years and now you think you can beat anyone? Bring the F* on. Blazers don’t even have a winning record on the road, if you think you can come to LA and beat us, then bring it on. Beat the Rockets, I want you to. Hurry up and beat them so we can put Roy and Fernandez and Aldridge in their place.

by laker on Apr 17, 2009 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

...................... The Blazers have only gotta win 1/4 on the road if they can hold serve in the Rose Garden...

So it’s perfectly fine to be 20-21 on the road this year… That would project to 2 wins (rounding up, ha ha).

Pontiff of the Pryz for Prez Posse...

by timbo on Apr 17, 2009 11:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Slight edge to Houston

While Houston isn’t exactly overflowing with playoff experience (especially at making it out of the first round), the playoff experience they have vastly overshadows what Portland has. Paul Allen had to resort last night to talking about the playoff experience Rudy Fernandez has when asked about Portland’s lack of experience, and Fernandez is a rookie.

The other thing working in Houston’s favor is defense. Houston is good at it, Portland doesn’t play any of it. Defense is even more important in the playoffs, and Portland not having a commitment to it is going to hurt them in this series. Both teams are great at home and poor on the road, so if that holds true then it’ll go 7 with Portland winning; but the defensive difference and the playoff experience leads me to believe that Houston might steal one on the road, and if that happens, Portland is done.

Houston in 6, even though the Rockets would make for a much more dull 2nd round opponent for the Lakers.

by WildYams on Apr 16, 2009 2:58 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Portland's defense has been out of the world in the past 15 games.

They’ve bumped up from 21st in defensive efficiency to 10th by the end of the year (Houston finished at 4th). To say they don’t play any defense is a little misguided, at best. 10th out of 30 is hardly “no defense”.

"Respect everyone, fear no one." -TP

by Arby on Apr 16, 2009 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Portland does have good defense

They play at a very slow pace, and yes they are a very young team so they sometimes make mistakes. But look at the point differential. They are going to put up points and limit the other teams points due to good rebounding. Their defense has gotten a lot better over the season.

I hope I can get a bunch of championships, like 15. " - Greg Oden

by mxpx5678 on Apr 16, 2009 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Portland has defensive defeciencies

that is true. We have to switch on a lot of picks as we have trouble fighting through them. I would hardly say that portland does not play defense or is disinterested in it like the 04-05 Suns, but they are just not terribly good, but they do commit themselves.

If you are interested in the blazers defense check this out

Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.

by jonestr on Apr 16, 2009 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I find it interesting

You heed the minority of Blazer fans that are braggarts regarding the Lakers/Blazers history in the last few years. Those pundits are simply responding to the numerous (and by numerous I mean numerous) Kobe jockriders who say everything short of him being the next messiah.

We’re proud of our young team, there is no doubt in that. But to call out all Blazer fans for getting ahead of themselves is a little ridiculous. And besides, this blog has been around, what, a week? That isn’t nearly enough time to experience a true sample size of our fandom.

I am in the minority of Blazer fans who believes the Blazers will lose a hard fought series to Houston. Their not a great matchup for us.

On a side note, showing a picture of Yao dunking over Roy? Seriously? Yao has a solid foot in height on Roy. That’s like Bynum dunking on Fisher!

"Respect everyone, fear no one." -TP

by Arby on Apr 16, 2009 3:02 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It was simply a size comparison.

I could say Oden on Fisher if it suits you better. Regardless of the comparison, its not going to have you leaping out of your chair in amazement.

"Respect everyone, fear no one." -TP

by Arby on Apr 16, 2009 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Confirm this for me

You are the Blazers, right? And you’re playing the Rockets, yes?

And that’s a picture of a previous game between the Blazers and the Rockets, isn’t it?

So I’m thinking it relates pretty strongly to the topic at hand.

Strength & Honor

by Josh Tucker on Apr 16, 2009 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm just saying

if you’re going to post a picture of the blazers getting owned, make it fair one! Of course I’m only giving you a hard time on this one :)

"Respect everyone, fear no one." -TP

by Arby on Apr 16, 2009 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I suppose it's a fair complaint

Though pretty nitpicky.

But I’ll explain: SB Nation puts AP/Ghetty Images photos at our disposal, and provides a cropping/placement tool. This was the best photo that served my purposes.

Fair enough?

Strength & Honor

by Josh Tucker on Apr 16, 2009 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yao probably didn’t even dunk that.

by Gils_Keloids on Apr 16, 2009 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you look closely

His feet are still on the ground.

Witty Unpredictable Talent and Natural Game

by iDea on Apr 16, 2009 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gotta say it

Get a picture of Houston’s Small Forward dunking on our 7’0 Power Forward… twice!

by Zaig on Apr 16, 2009 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oden never dunked on Fisher

Ok, now I’m just giving you a tough time.

by Gils_Keloids on Apr 16, 2009 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you pay attention to the context of the post...

It’s pretty clear that this really isn’t directed at reasonable fans such as yourself, but rather the BEdgers mentioned in the post that showed up within minutes to taunt and troll.

I think we got one Celtics fan who pretended to troll, but was doing so in jest, and one Jazz fan who essentially said, “Please be nice to us!” I don’t think we even had a single Cavs fan. The fact that Portland showed up so quickly, in such droves, and with such attitude, when no other team did so, means something.

Strength & Honor

by Josh Tucker on Apr 16, 2009 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Celtics, Jazz, and Cavs fans

Don’t have a significant presence on sbnation. Blazers do. When all you have to do to register and post on a fellow board is click a box, the barriers to entry (in this case entry = posting) are that insignificant (as opposed to fully registering to a new site), you’re going to see more of us than them.

"Respect everyone, fear no one." -TP

by Arby on Apr 16, 2009 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm new to SB Nation, so don't take me for an expert

But Celticsblog is one of the biggest NBA team blogs out there. Meanwhile, the point is that there are 28 teams out there, most of them represented on SB Nation — thousands upon thousands of basketball fans out there — and though most teams resent the Lakers to some degree, BEdgers were really the only ones to show send more than one representative to say much of anything here. And those other representatives? They pretty much just welcomed us, and pretty warmly.

Strength & Honor

by Josh Tucker on Apr 16, 2009 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Out of curiousity

where do you find those metrics?

The goal is not to be better, the goal is to be the best.

by ratbastird on Apr 16, 2009 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You want metrics?

Is that necessary, to know that Celticsblog is a big time NBA blog? You need statistics to believe that there are thousands of SB Nation members from 27 different teams out there?

I’m confused.

Strength & Honor

by Josh Tucker on Apr 16, 2009 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Okay

so you’re saying that you’re just throwing out numbers with nothing to actually back them up?

I was asking for your source. I’ve been curious about that because I’ve always believed that BE had a larger than normal fan base on this particular blog site, and i was told i was wrong by someone else. You sounded like you had access to numbers, so I was asking you where i could find those numbers so i could look all that up.

My apologies for assuming you actually used facts in your statements.

The goal is not to be better, the goal is to be the best.

by ratbastird on Apr 16, 2009 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lighten up, man

I don’t recall claiming that Celticsblog was bigger than BE.

And I also don’t think it requires detailed statistics to be able to assess one blog as larger or more popular than others.

You oughtta think twice before acting as though personal judgment (i.e., taking a look and seeing that one site gets many hundreds of comments, and certain others get a couple dozen) is completely invalid in making conclusions.

Strength & Honor

by Josh Tucker on Apr 16, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

...

What are you trying to accomplish? Because I honestly got lost in what you’re trying to say. But I guess I should lighten up because you can’t be coherent about a topic this general.

-brandonmitchell.org

by brandonmitchell on Apr 16, 2009 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

dude what happened to your face....

There are a million doctors in LA that can fix that. Oops, I should lighten up.

"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley

by pslakerfan on Apr 16, 2009 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

...

? It’s obviously a photoshopped picture of Steve Blake and Greg Oden so it’s not MY face. I guess good luck with your blog… as confusing as it is.

-brandonmitchell.org

by brandonmitchell on Apr 16, 2009 6:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's called sarcasm....

Good luck finishing high school.

"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley

by pslakerfan on Apr 16, 2009 7:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

...

yeah I think everyone knows what sarcasm is but the whole point is what are you talking about? Just thought you should throw some sarcasm irrelevance into this and seem like you made some point? I think what the real definition you are looking for is ‘bad joke’ and that’s exactly what you just made.

You should take up stand up comedy so I can throw crap at you, then you’d be funny.

-brandonmitchell.org

by brandonmitchell on Apr 17, 2009 1:25 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Stop

Stop attacking each other’s character, or you’ll be banned.

Strength & Honor

by Josh Tucker on Apr 17, 2009 7:17 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Examples

Does it take detailed metrics and demographics to determine that Portland is larger than Eugene? No, because (a) anyone familiar with the area knows it, and (b) it’s aparent to the naked eye.

Does it take detailed metrics and demographics to know that Atlanta is more racially diverse than Eugene? Again, no, because any intelligent person can tell that right away.

The simple fact that a determination is subjective does not automatically make it arbitrary and invalid.

Strength & Honor

by Josh Tucker on Apr 16, 2009 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What?

So the Boston Blog is bigger because the city of Boston is bigger than Portland?

Come over to Blazers Edge and look around, take in the sites. Check it out, you don’t have to buy anything.

Witty Unpredictable Talent and Natural Game

by iDea on Apr 16, 2009 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ehh?

You can google “City population size” and see that Portland is bigger than Eugene. You can’t do that with the SB nation sizes.

by Zaig on Apr 16, 2009 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Man...

You guys really miss the point.

The point is that subjective valuation is valid, and that “Where are your numbers?” does not automatically invalidate a person’s claim.

I realize everyone’s gung ho on statistics these days, and I love them quite a bit, but people need to realize that metrics aren’t the only valid points.

Strength & Honor

by Josh Tucker on Apr 16, 2009 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What did we learn from this?

Blazer fans are batshit crazy.

Oh wait, we didn’t really learn anything :).

by Justin N. on Apr 16, 2009 7:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL...

I was about to leave this blog when I saw this. Freakin hilarious!

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Apr 16, 2009 7:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Terribly sorry if we like proof for things that have obvious proof.

What if I went to a small village in Japan and said, “Damn, Japan isn’t a very densely populated country. I was in Texas the other day and it was way more densely populated than this.”

How would that make me look if I make this assumption based off of Small Village in Japan vs Dallas Texas?

This is an extreme example, but numbers = reality.

by Zaig on Apr 16, 2009 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If extreme = ridiculous......

I agree totally.

"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley

by pslakerfan on Apr 16, 2009 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

some numbers...

http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/www.blazersedge.com

if you type in celticsblog.com in the compare bar and set it to max, you can see that obviously celticsblog.com has had much higher traffic than blazersedge up until this season. During this season, they are relatively equal with times celticsblog is ahead and times blazersedge is ahead.

Next time you want to argue with someone claiming they’re wrong because they don’t bring numbers, remember you’re just as wrong as they are until you get numbers of your own.

by Justin N. on Apr 16, 2009 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I like Celtics blog, but they feel like a ghost town to me.

I wouldn’t be suprised if BEdge is larger than all of the other NBA SBNation blogs combined if you are simply considering post count. Site hits probably win by an even bigger margin.

Of course that is the most obvious reason why a Laker blog would devote their whole main page to the Blazers. Just like with TV, it is whatever gets the viewers. While the poor taste tactic of baiting BEdge has become more frequent as the past two years went by, Silver Screen & Roll gets a pass and a thumbs up for now from me because they are part of the network here.

by staylost on Apr 16, 2009 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Site hits isn't as big of a victory as you would think

BEdge easily takes the cake in comment and fanpost/fanshot count. But based on traffic numbers, Celtics Blog had more visits and page views last month than BEdge.

Granted Celtics blog has 22 different managers/editors/authors/moderators so having a lot of traffic isn’t totally unexpected. They probably have more people working on that thing that the entire sports department of the Boston Globe.

by tingeyga on Apr 16, 2009 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Keep in mind

Celtics Blog is probably one of the most referenced Blogs by Henry Abbott (TrueHoop) and Skeets/Dwyer (Ball Don’t Lie). That sure helps the page clicks.

"Respect everyone, fear no one." -TP

by Arby on Apr 16, 2009 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for the benefit of the doubt

I’ll tell you truthfully that I don’t know BE from Adam, and was not aware of the tactic of baiting BE to create traffic. That’s not what I was doing.

What I was doing was (a) writing on something that was of interest to me, which is what I signed up to do, and (b) continuing a conversation certain BEdgers started.

That’s the honest truth, and I’ll let you decide whether you believe that, or actually think I was traffic baiting.

Strength & Honor

by Josh Tucker on Apr 16, 2009 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, if you say it I believe you.

It has become more common lately and we’ve tried to learn not to act like an overactive immune system.

I’ll be happy now if both BEdge and SilverS&R can kill Celtcs Blog hit dominance. Wierdly enough from a Blazer fan, I would’ve been happier if the Lakers had trashed the Celtics last year. West Coast > East Coast for me.

by staylost on Apr 16, 2009 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If the Blazers are the ones that get the ratings, then why are they never on primetime? I believe the Lakers are on Primetime on Sunday at 12:30. You should check them out!

by LAKERJK on Apr 17, 2009 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

what it means is that, for whatever reason (likely related to being a 1 team city)

there are lots of Blazer fans on the internet. Witness Portland winning Ball Don’t Lie’s 2v2 tournament even though nobody thinks Roy/Aldridge would actually beat Kobe/Gasol or Lebron/Big Z. Blazer fans have a big internet presence.

With an internet following this large, there are bound to be some trolls.

by jksnake99 on Apr 16, 2009 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You think we showed up already?

You ain’t seen nothing yet!

Witty Unpredictable Talent and Natural Game

by iDea on Apr 16, 2009 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If that's the case

Then doesn’t that make me even more vindicated, in advance?

Strength & Honor

by Josh Tucker on Apr 16, 2009 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No

Your team is playing the Jazz in Round 1. Write about them on your main page. My first reaction to your post was that it was pretty petty, which make me less likely to believe anything else the person has to say.

by Zaig on Apr 16, 2009 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Think what you want

That’s your prerogative. I’m not here to change your mind.

Telling me what to write is not your prerogative.

Strength & Honor

by Josh Tucker on Apr 16, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah it means they are desperately trying to create a rivalry.......

that doesn’t really exist yet. Can’t blame them though.

"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley

by pslakerfan on Apr 16, 2009 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kobe was the one who is desperately trying to create one.

He wants to meet us in the playoffs quite badly I’ve heard.

by staylost on Apr 16, 2009 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah to kick your butts.......

not to create a rivalry. We already have enough of those.

"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley

by pslakerfan on Apr 16, 2009 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Portland is the better team-- the 2nd best team out West according to point diff

so the Blazers have a slight edge. I’m picking Portland in 7.

Regardless of what a few BEdgers posted over here, very few Blazer fans actually believe Portland would beat LA in round 2. Here’s what many of us do believe: Portland would give LA a very good run— perhaps the best run of any team out West, perhaps taking it to 7 games. Also, we believe there is some chance Portland could pull the shocker… if they get past what will be a very stiff test in round 1.

LA is an overwhelming favorite out West, and while I think Portland is best equipped to challenge them, Portland winning a hypothetical 2nd round series remains very unlikely.

by jksnake99 on Apr 16, 2009 3:08 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I honestly believe

Portland can beat LA.

I don’t believe Portland can be undefeated at home, but I do believe they can win on the road.

I greatly hope that match-up happens.

The goal is not to be better, the goal is to be the best.

by ratbastird on Apr 16, 2009 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Being a fan of defensive FG% as a key metric

Here is what I found:

Houston shot 47.4% against Portland in the three games. Houston shot 45.3% against all other teams. Portland gave up 45.6% against all other teams.

Portland shot 45.1% against Houston in the three games. Portland shot 46.5% against all other teams. Houston gave up 44.4% against all other teams.

So the three games (I know, small sample) show that Houston shot better against Portland than it did against other teams, and while Portland shot worse than they normally do, they shot better against Houston than Houston’s other opponents.

by Gils_Keloids on Apr 16, 2009 3:11 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Excellent post

quid Latine dictum sit, altum viditur

by dvcastle on Apr 16, 2009 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Which is wierd

Because if you watched any of the Blazer / Rockets games, they always seem like the teams are shooting horrible and it’s a defensive struggle.

Witty Unpredictable Talent and Natural Game

by iDea on Apr 16, 2009 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think

As a Blazer fan I would have preferred an older San Antonio team but I do not think that would have been an easy series at all. I think the Blazers are playing very well right now (perhaps the best of any team) and have a chance to do well in the playoffs but Houston will be a tough team.

I hope I can get a bunch of championships, like 15. " - Greg Oden

by mxpx5678 on Apr 16, 2009 3:12 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm not 100% sure why this is even on the main page

That said, everyone alive knows that Lakers would be favored to beat Portland in round 2 if both teams make it. No news there.

by Zaig on Apr 16, 2009 3:13 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I think this will easily go to 7 games, Houston with the edge.

by Linix129 on Apr 16, 2009 3:33 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Houston the toughest 1st round match possible?

Yes.

Can the blazers handle them?

Yes.

If not, they don’t deserve the next round anyway. I’ve long been a fan of the actual best team winning, and if the blazers are going to make and win the finals, then i WANT them to go through the best so that no one can nay say and talk about how they got lucky.

Kobe bryant stated that he wanted to play the blazers again after the last game. He stated it because he wants to show his teams dominance. I hate the guy, but at the same time greatly admire that. I also feel the same way. I want the blazers to show their dominance.

Either way, should be an exciting ride. Thanks for the controversy, should make it more fun and interesting!

The goal is not to be better, the goal is to be the best.

by ratbastird on Apr 16, 2009 3:35 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

Much respect for your position on this.

Look, folks, I’m not saying the Lakers will breeze past Portland, if it happens. If the Blazers do get past the Rockets, you’ll see me talking about what a tough series it’s going to be.

What I am saying is that it’s about as ridiculous for the Blazers to be looking forward to a matchup with LA as it is for the Lakers to be looking forward to the Finals.

Strength & Honor

by Josh Tucker on Apr 16, 2009 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Its pretty much a done deal in everyones eyes

thast the LAKERS ARE GOING TO THE FINALS

Oden...Aldridge...Roy.....THE REAL BIG THREE

by CroRupt on Apr 16, 2009 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know, why do they even bother with all the stupid rounds of playoffs?!

"The brownies,'' Fernandez said after the game. "The brownies are good for me to make three-points.''

- from Quick's Behind the Blazers Locker Room Door, 4/16/09

by ArbyOSU on Apr 17, 2009 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll give you that

I display bravado with the serious and do believe the blazers will win, but i’m also nervous about it. Definitely a tough series. But, that just makes it all the more fun.

The goal is not to be better, the goal is to be the best.

by ratbastird on Apr 16, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So why are your panties in a bunch?

I don’t get what prompted this post on your homepage?

This is the stance just about everybody I know, takes.

Witty Unpredictable Talent and Natural Game

by iDea on Apr 16, 2009 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

One, it's indirectly related to the Lakers...

…in that it addresses a previous conversation that was taking place at this site. That makes it relevant.

Two, this is a basketball blog, and I reserve the right to blog about basketball. Again, this makes it relevant.

Strength & Honor

by Josh Tucker on Apr 16, 2009 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Absolutely you do

I’m just wondering why you’re calling out Blazer fans, that’s all. Seems like a silly undertaking since we’re just a small blip on the map. Why bother?

Witty Unpredictable Talent and Natural Game

by iDea on Apr 16, 2009 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're not the only Blazer fan

and I’m hardly calling him out. It was a simple question, no braggadocious claims or haterade going on. I was curious why he was calling us out. Big deal

Witty Unpredictable Talent and Natural Game

by iDea on Apr 16, 2009 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Really?

My bad I guess, it was just and expression.

Witty Unpredictable Talent and Natural Game

by iDea on Apr 16, 2009 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Many would

Personally, it didn’t bother me.

But listen, I’m not trying to flip out on you. All I’ve been trying to do is answer your questions. Really.

Strength & Honor

by Josh Tucker on Apr 16, 2009 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's a term I first heard from my grandmother.

this has been a message from: "The People's Alliance to give Greg Oden at least a couple of seasons."

by bforsythe on Apr 16, 2009 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

ummmmmmmmmmmmm he's calling you guys out because.....

you can’t seem to talk about anything BUT the L*kers. The asterisk is just for you Bl*zer fans.

"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley

by pslakerfan on Apr 16, 2009 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have never seen a post about...

…the Lakers matching up with ANOTHER team on Bedge. I think it’s awesome that you’re posting about us on your site.

this has been a message from: "The People's Alliance to give Greg Oden at least a couple of seasons."

by bforsythe on Apr 16, 2009 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

In all fairness...

I doubt BlazersEdge was even in existence the last time Portland was in the playoffs, and I know for sure it wasn’t around the last time the Blazers had a chance to make it out of the first round; so really, what possible reason could they have ever had for posting about the two teams that represented the next round’s matchup?

by WildYams on Apr 16, 2009 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Touche.

this has been a message from: "The People's Alliance to give Greg Oden at Least a Couple of Seasons"

by bforsythe on Apr 16, 2009 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice to (virtually) see you again, pslakerfan.

Sorry you opted to withdraw from Blazers Edge, though I do understand why you did.

by MiledAnimal on Apr 16, 2009 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

thanks,

I don’t mind the abuse. I love the discussions/arguments back and forth, and I really enjoy a lot of people at BE. However when Dave arbitrarily censored me and not the person I was having a (civil) argument with, I just figured what is the point. Nice to see you guys here though.

"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley

by pslakerfan on Apr 16, 2009 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry to hear about that.

this has been a message from: "The People's Alliance to give Greg Oden at Least a Couple of Seasons"

by bforsythe on Apr 16, 2009 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dave (Blazers Edge Supremo) HATES the Lakers (as do the big majority of Old School Blazer fans). Once he sees "Laker Fan" in your signature, I'm sure his eyes glaze over...

You should set up an alternative SBNation name for use over there. Probably what happened was your posts were “flagged” by Blazer Cultists and he responded to that with a meat cleaver without reading much…

I’ve locked horns over the censorship question over there and learned pretty fast that you can’t fight a nuclear-armed and trigger-happy city hall….

Bottom line is that it is his personal blog and the rules are whatever he decides the rules are. Which is unfair but the way it is. Once you come to terms with that reality, life is easier, I’ve learned…

His is not the only SBNation blog with a less-than-optimum censorship/banning policy.

Pontiff of the Pryz for Prez Posse...

by timbo on Apr 16, 2009 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, I can say it here...

Celtics Blog is run by intolerant pricks.

Pontiff of the Pryz for Prez Posse...

by timbo on Apr 16, 2009 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Man I like your style.

I gave you a shoutout last night on the Blazers game thread, but I don’t think you saw it. Basically it just said thanks for coming here and helping get SS&R off the ground. Yeah I am not a big Rev. Dave fan, but in all fairness he and I e-mailed each other (off the blog) and he gave me his side. His side was crap, but at least he took the time.

"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley

by pslakerfan on Apr 16, 2009 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I missed it. That thing went over the 4100 posts mark, so you start to lose things as they scoll down the page...
I gave you a shoutout last night on the Blazers game thread, but I don’t think you saw it.

Pontiff of the Pryz for Prez Posse...

by timbo on Apr 16, 2009 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah I noticed....

that’s crazy. It’s hard to keep up. Had to divide it up in 30 minute threads. Playoffs will probably be worse.

"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley

by pslakerfan on Apr 16, 2009 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The scary thing is that it was a home game, which usually means about a 20% reduction in posting since some of the people are at the game.

I can’t even start to guess what the first road playoff game is gonna be like.

I tried to make the case for different “flavors” of open threads — one for the smartasses with their negativity, another for the happy fans with their rah rah rah enthusiasm. I still think that’s a decent idea but it didn’t fly.

SS&R game day threads will probably have very similar momentum next season as the site gets rolling — especially since so many games are on national TV. I find laying around with a laptop while I’m watching to be a pretty fun way to view a game and I think there are quite a few people that feel the same way, Very addictive…

Pontiff of the Pryz for Prez Posse...

by timbo on Apr 16, 2009 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I find it hard to live game blog.........

with wifey in one ear and daughter in the other. But when I get a chance to it’s fun.

"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley

by pslakerfan on Apr 16, 2009 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

When we get to that level

I may give that a try. I like the idea.

Strength & Honor

by Josh Tucker on Apr 16, 2009 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You will find that there is conflict generated in the game threads...

………………………… during losses. The smartasses will get down on the guys in the white hats, and the happy fans will feel like the smartasses are pissing on the flag. Then the happy fans start beefing in the thread and there’s some hostile back-and-forth, and the happy fans start fanposts complaining about the smartasses.

It makes a lot of sense, to my way of thinking, to keep the two groups segregated a little.

This only happens during losses, so it’s less of a problem with the Lakers than anyone else, ha ha.

Bad losses can get ugly.

Pontiff of the Pryz for Prez Posse...

by timbo on Apr 16, 2009 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I really like Pounding the Rock

The guys there seem to be pretty level headed in their dictatorship.

"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley

by pslakerfan on Apr 16, 2009 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Never been there, but I really, really can't stand...

the Mavericks. I don’t know why. It’s not really one player or one incident I just cant stand them. Maybe it’s Cuban. Actually I take that back. It’s Dirk’s total BS MVP. Yeah that’s most of it

"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley

by pslakerfan on Apr 16, 2009 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Aren’t Spurs fans, like their team, pretty much always level headed?

Strength & Honor

by Josh Tucker on Apr 16, 2009 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

ouch...

I think we have found your soft spot.

"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley

by pslakerfan on Apr 16, 2009 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wanted a Texas three step....

like nobody’s business. I really think the Lakers best three matchups are Dallas, Houston, and SA.

"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley

by pslakerfan on Apr 16, 2009 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think the two worst matchups for the Lakers are Blazers and Houston.

I also have seen enough Dallas late in the year to realize that they are not the same team they were earlier in the year. They are very dangerous.

Utah is the best possible draw for the Lakers. Hornets and Denver would be golden also.

Pontiff of the Pryz for Prez Posse...

by timbo on Apr 16, 2009 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think we are in Houston's kitchen...

And Dallas? Please. I know they are playing well, but shut down Dirk (which we always do) and they are done. I agree about Portland though.

"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley

by pslakerfan on Apr 16, 2009 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Again, because it was relevant to an already existing discussion here

And I didn’t start this discussion. But I don’t see how you can take me to task for continuing a discussion that was started by Blazers fans who came to my site, purely to stir things up.

Strength & Honor

by Josh Tucker on Apr 16, 2009 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who and where?

Just curious, not fighting, I’m just curious who or where so I can read what happened.

Witty Unpredictable Talent and Natural Game

by iDea on Apr 16, 2009 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Use the archives

It was the first story.

Strength & Honor

by Josh Tucker on Apr 16, 2009 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

now now now Josh....

It’s our site remember???

"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley

by pslakerfan on Apr 16, 2009 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I stand corrected

OUR site!

Strength & Honor

by Josh Tucker on Apr 16, 2009 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly my point!

I say you can!

But here’s the thing: I also say the Lakers can look to the Finals. And the BEdgers that started this discussion (note that I’m not finger all BEdgers here) wanted to look for a second round match with the Lakers, while at the same time criticizing us for looking for another shot at the Finals.

That was my point.

Strength & Honor

by Josh Tucker on Apr 16, 2009 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't worry about about defending your point to me...

It is your blog.

I was just snidly responding to the ridiculousness of how our two teams have the playoffs all planned out in our heads.

What you need right now is a way to link to a more used Laker site and tell them Blazer fans are giving you hard time here. Just make sure they aren’t the ones that do this though: KB24KB24KB24K24KB24KB24KB24KB24K24KB24KB24KB24KB24K24KB24KB24KB24KB24K24KB24KB24KB24KB24K24KB24KB24KB24KB24K24KB24KB24KB24KB24K24KB24KB24KB24KB24K24KB24KB24KB24KB24K24KB24KB24KB24KB24K24KB24KB24KB24KB24K24KB24KB24KB24KB24K24KB24KB24KB24KB24K24KB24KB24KB24KB24K24KB24KB24KB24KB24K24KB24KB24KB24KB24K24KB24KB24KB24KB24K24KB24KB24KB24KB24K24KB24KB24KB24KB24K24KB24KB24KB24KB24K24KB24KB24KB24KB24K24KB24KB24KB24KB24K24KB24KB24KB24KB24K24KB24KB24KB24KB24K24KB24

Ugh! my hands feel dirty!

by staylost on Apr 16, 2009 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Assuming that's directed at me, Josh...

I think it’s certainly permissible for the Lakers to look past their first round series with Utah…

I would be STUNNED if that one goes more than 5 games. Lakers are gonna cream them.

But to look past THREE series to the NBA Finals?!?!?

The chutzpah of overlooking 7 game series is exponential………

Pontiff of the Pryz for Prez Posse...

by timbo on Apr 16, 2009 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exponential chutzpah......

Has there ever been a better name for a band? OOOh they would kill at a wedding.

"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley

by pslakerfan on Apr 16, 2009 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think it was

But it’s only chutzpah if it’s unwarranted, or at least a long shot. Does anyone expect a Western Conference team to beat the Lakers?

I’m not saying we should completely disregard the first three rounds. I’m just saying the odds are good enough to think about it some.

Strength & Honor

by Josh Tucker on Apr 16, 2009 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes.
Does anyone expect a Western Conference team to beat the Lakers?

Pontiff of the Pryz for Prez Posse...

by timbo on Apr 16, 2009 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not just talking about having a chance

I’m not just talking about having a prayer.

I’m talking about expecting a WC team to beat the Lakers.

Really?

Strength & Honor

by Josh Tucker on Apr 16, 2009 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's probabilities...

Lakers v. Utah = .99

=====

Lakers v. Houston = .8

Lakers v. Blazers = .65

=====

Lakers v. ??? = .75 or .8 or whatever

Even if the Lakers are big favorites 3 times, it is a coin toss whether they make the finals.

Pontiff of the Pryz for Prez Posse...

by timbo on Apr 16, 2009 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Those are some pretty bold statements

I guess time will tell.

I still maintain that the odds are more than good enough to give Lakers fans the right to at least think about it a little.

Hell, that’s what sports fans do.

Strength & Honor

by Josh Tucker on Apr 16, 2009 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've seen about 75 Blazer games this year and probably 35 Laker games.... I tell ya, honestly, liking both teams -- that's a tough series.

Blazers have won 10 of the last 11 (the one loss is to Houston), by a double-digit average margin.

Lakers would have lost without Bynum. With Bynum and home court, they have a good advantage in the series, but IF the Blazers can get past Houston, buckle up…

Pontiff of the Pryz for Prez Posse...

by timbo on Apr 16, 2009 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Your just a hater

cuz you know in 2-3 years the lakers wont be the same team they are now and the Blazers will dominate, but you cant swallow that can you, so you gotta hate. Last year i was rooting for the Lakers to beat Boston and if their in the finals aggain, id rather see kobe and crew win rather than LBJ and the Lebrons

Oden...Aldridge...Roy.....THE REAL BIG THREE

by CroRupt on Apr 16, 2009 3:36 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for the quick writeoff

It reinforces my point

Strength & Honor

by Josh Tucker on Apr 16, 2009 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

As I stated to someone else

10% of a group can sometimes seem like it represents 90% of a group just because it’s louder.

The goal is not to be better, the goal is to be the best.

by ratbastird on Apr 16, 2009 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know the feeling

Glad to have folks like yourself showing up, now, as well.

Strength & Honor

by Josh Tucker on Apr 16, 2009 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

i actually didnt read the whole thing

bunch of haterade

Oden...Aldridge...Roy.....THE REAL BIG THREE

by CroRupt on Apr 16, 2009 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Way to make a snap judgment

Without actually knowing what your judging

Strength & Honor

by Josh Tucker on Apr 16, 2009 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Snap judgement

But correct analysis.

You don’t see any anti other team posts on BE front page. Why? Because they’re all positive posts, happy for our team.

Witty Unpredictable Talent and Natural Game

by iDea on Apr 16, 2009 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good thing...

…this isn’t Blazer’s Edge.

It’s a different blog, and I didn’t sign up to copy BE’s model.

See here.

Strength & Honor

by Josh Tucker on Apr 16, 2009 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow

Have fun with your blog. Keep talking about us, we love it.

Witty Unpredictable Talent and Natural Game

by iDea on Apr 16, 2009 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep.

I was shocked when I saw a link to this post over at BEdge. I didn’t think Laker fans even knew who we were (or at least most of you try to come off that way). Don’t worry, I’ll quickly cancel my memebership as soon as I’m done reading all of the comments in here. Don’t be scared. Kobe’s got a few years left before his straight-outta-highschool-self starts breaking down like KG.

this has been a message from: "The People's Alliance to give Greg Oden at least a couple of seasons."

by bforsythe on Apr 16, 2009 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

weak, really weak

"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley

by pslakerfan on Apr 16, 2009 7:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Which part?

Kobe breaking down? Yeah, probably.

this has been a message from: "The People's Alliance to give Greg Oden at Least a Couple of Seasons"

by bforsythe on Apr 16, 2009 7:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am a bit concerned about Kobe's knee tendinitis

But Kobe is a conditioning and maintenance freak, so I’m sure he’s doing all the right things, medically speaking, to keep himself in good shape and prevent any injuries due to lack of proper care.

by Gils_Keloids on Apr 16, 2009 7:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree (begrudingly).

His work ethic is legendary. Oh how I hate him.

this has been a message from: "The People's Alliance to give Greg Oden at Least a Couple of Seasons"

by bforsythe on Apr 16, 2009 7:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Except that KG might be certifiably crazy ...

Kobe is one of the hardest workers in the NBA off the court, but his intensity on the court waxes and wanes. Meanwhile, I wouldn’t be surprised if KG broke somebody’s neck in a game once. That’s not neccesarily a compliment to Kobe, but it refutes the KG vs. Kobe comparison.

by C.A. Clark on Apr 16, 2009 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Please try and rep blazer fans better than this.

A lot of us do take the time to really analyze match ups and us statistics to emphasize points.

I hope I can get a bunch of championships, like 15. " - Greg Oden

by mxpx5678 on Apr 16, 2009 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

use not us. sorry.

I hope I can get a bunch of championships, like 15. " - Greg Oden

by mxpx5678 on Apr 16, 2009 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks

Those you reference are all welcome here

Strength & Honor

by Josh Tucker on Apr 16, 2009 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

sorry was too busy wathing the rally

Oden...Aldridge...Roy.....THE REAL BIG THREE

by CroRupt on Apr 16, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

BTW

Love your handle

Strength & Honor

by Josh Tucker on Apr 16, 2009 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pareto Principle

Wikipedia

The Pareto principle (also known as the 80-20 rule,1 the law of the vital few and the principle of factor sparsity) states that, for many events, roughly 80% of the effects come from 20% of the causes.

by Gils_Keloids on Apr 16, 2009 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey SSR, I just want to say

that I’m glad the Lakers are finally represented on SBN. I hope your site gains a large following quickly (20 million people down that way, should be a few Laker fans!) because I think the Blazers and Lakers are going to be on each other’s dance card a lot more in the next few years. It would be great for fans at each site to be comfortable commenting on the other site.

by MiledAnimal on Apr 16, 2009 3:57 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree

As long as it stays civil, we dont need to have all the meanness, i would rather talk basketball and not insults.

I hope I can get a bunch of championships, like 15. " - Greg Oden

by mxpx5678 on Apr 16, 2009 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Folks

Let me make a point, here.

Why is this post on my blog? Because it relates to an earlier conversation here at SS&R, and because this is a basketball blog, and I’m not going to limit myself to talking about only the Lakers. I’m allowed to branch out a little and discuss the league at large.

Sure, I get that BE wouldn’t put this on their front page. But you need to get that this isn’t BE, and I didn’t sign up to copy BE’s model. So don’t be surprised if I do things a little differently.

You want to disagree with me, fine. But if you’re going to get upset because I put posts on my blog that you wouldn’t put on yours, then I’m pretty sure there’s a blog out there that does things your way.

How would you like me to come in and tell you what you can and can’t post on your blog? I don’t think you signed up to do things my way, either. Please don’t go postal on my simply because I didn’t do things your way.

Strength & Honor

by Josh Tucker on Apr 16, 2009 4:03 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

How would you like it if

Be posted something about the lakers on front page, with everything negative for everyone to see?
im sure you woudnt like it

Oden...Aldridge...Roy.....THE REAL BIG THREE

by CroRupt on Apr 16, 2009 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sure is but it isnt advertised on front page

Oden...Aldridge...Roy.....THE REAL BIG THREE

by CroRupt on Apr 16, 2009 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes... i joined last year well two years ago

but changed names

Oden...Aldridge...Roy.....THE REAL BIG THREE

by CroRupt on Apr 16, 2009 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And you've never noticed Dave writing mean, funny things

about the Lakers, which he always does on the front page?

by MiledAnimal on Apr 16, 2009 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

only when we play them sometimes

but he respects them

Oden...Aldridge...Roy.....THE REAL BIG THREE

by CroRupt on Apr 16, 2009 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dude....

He doesn’t even spell the team-that-must-not-be-named’s name out. Does this seem familiar to you: L*kers ?

That being said if I saw a Blazers’ lovefest here I would probably disappear from reality because my entire fan existence would be evaporated. No L*kers-Bl*zers rivalry? Why bother going on?

Honor Alaa Abdelnaby.
First in the NBA. At least alphabetically

by OhOhOden on Apr 16, 2009 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not long ago...

There was a post on Blazer’s Edge suggesting that the league needs to contract, and that Sacramento (among others) should be contracted.

Remember?

That wasn’t just critical of another team… it was suggesting they be eliminated!! And wasn’t that on the front page?

And you want to tell me I can’t write anything about another team on my blog? No, BE never does that…

Strength & Honor

by Josh Tucker on Apr 16, 2009 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

His had a reason, yours didn't really other than to say "LOL Portland, take that!"

Dave was creating a discussion about a way to significantly change a hurting NBA. Even if it was pretty far fetched, it raised some good questions.

This thread has no real purpose other than to inevitably bring BEdgers here. Why? To raise publicity, to argue? Who knows, regardless, it’s pretty pointless.

by Zaig on Apr 16, 2009 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

About as pointless as using an * to spell Lakers??

I remember doing that kind of stuff when I was about……..5.

"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley

by pslakerfan on Apr 16, 2009 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

As a matter of fact

It was to make a point about hypocrisy. It was also to counter the initial comments made by Blazers fans. It was to say, “If you make the rules, you gotta play by them.” And finally, it was to deliver the message that just because it’s “cool” to hate the Lakers (read: cliché), that doesn’t mean we’re going to roll over. It was to say, “You’re free to bring the heat; can you take it, too?” Apparently, we found the answer to that question pretty quick.

Is that point enough for you? Probably not. Which is fine with me, since I don’t recall anyone appointing you as the final decision maker in what is and is not a relevant or worthwhile topic for writing.

Finally, before you go on, let me remind you of this: If it is a pointless discussion, keep in mind that it was started by BEdgers. Why did those BEdgers come here? To argue? To stir the pot? Who knows, but if my post was pointless, their comments were even more so. At least I was simply continuing an already open conversation.

Strength & Honor

by Josh Tucker on Apr 16, 2009 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

breathe Josh, breathe...........

In out, in out, in out. There now don’t you feel better. :-) LOL Nice post though. And no they can’t take it, but they have a PHD is dishing it out.

"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley

by pslakerfan on Apr 16, 2009 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Josh

You’ve watched Dave enough… you should know how to properly run a SB blog. Here’s a hint, you’re not doing it very well.

by Zaig on Apr 16, 2009 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Says a Blazers fan?

Funny, I thought this was a Lakers blog.

…[double checks]…

Oh good, it still is! Hmm, well then I think I’ll let Lakers fans decide that.

Strength & Honor

by Josh Tucker on Apr 16, 2009 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

HUH!!!

“You’ve watched Dave enough… you should know how to properly run a SB blog”.

Isn’t that like saying you’ve watched Al Davis enough, you should know how to run a football team.

"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley

by pslakerfan on Apr 16, 2009 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are you talking about the 1976-1983 Raiders

or the 2003-2009 Raiders?

I know you don’t like that Dave cautioned you, but he really does a great job with Blazers Edge. You can piss on Zaig without getting Dave wet.

by MiledAnimal on Apr 17, 2009 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

In all fairness Zaig.......

put Dave in front of the stream, not me.

"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley

by pslakerfan on Apr 17, 2009 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

and what happened to the 1983-2003 Raiders?

"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley

by pslakerfan on Apr 17, 2009 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The lost years...

I only know what I read on Wikipedia. I’ve never been a fan of the team. I went to a game once and some drunk at a urinal tried to start a fight with me. That experience precisely summed-up and reinforced my long-held views of Raider Fan.

by MiledAnimal on Apr 17, 2009 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dude, this site is less than 2 weeks old. THE FIRST game thread was over 600 posts.............

I think they’re doing just fine…

You’ve watched Dave enough… you should know how to properly run a SB blog. Here’s a hint, you’re not doing it very well.

Pontiff of the Pryz for Prez Posse...

by timbo on Apr 16, 2009 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You are cracking me up

I can’t tell whether you are trying to play peacemaker or instigator. As the only guy with legitmate ties to both sides, you are a complete wild card here.

This is not a dig in any way, I just think its hilarious.

by C.A. Clark on Apr 16, 2009 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

peacemaker definitely.

He’s cool.

"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley

by pslakerfan on Apr 16, 2009 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No way.

timbo is playing both ways like the wind switches direction. He has always been that way. Sometimes peacemaker, sometimes instigator. No problem with that.

by staylost on Apr 16, 2009 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

we'll see.......

if we meet in round 2. But as long as he is respectful, I don’t really care either way.

"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley

by pslakerfan on Apr 16, 2009 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

timbo's cool in my book

He does it the right way.

Strength & Honor

by Josh Tucker on Apr 16, 2009 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks.

I am a little bit of an instigator in this way: the best way to get this site flying is to catch some BE mojo and use that to help generate some Laker pride. The energy builds upon itself…

Blazers Edge is the one SB Nation basketball site that has really taken off and flown in terms of size and content and visits, etc. And the thing that kills SB Nation sites is apathy and lack of content, which you can see any of 25 different places, I’ll bet… Good teams, bad teams — it doesn’t matter. Apathy kills. So a little stirring of the pot is all for the best.

This thread is already heading for the 400 posts mark on a non-game night. There ya go. Josh is all over it.

Pontiff of the Pryz for Prez Posse...

by timbo on Apr 16, 2009 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Really?

You don’t think this happens all the time??

Maybe that’s because you’re the league darlings right now. You want to post negative stuff about the Lakers? Go ahead! We’re used to it.

It’s fair game. We understand that, and we accept it.

You can’t play content police over what other people are going to say about your team on the internet.

Strength & Honor

by Josh Tucker on Apr 16, 2009 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

IDC what anyone says about the blazers

we blazermaniacs know that the rest of the country doesnt know half the stuff we know about our team

Oden...Aldridge...Roy.....THE REAL BIG THREE

by CroRupt on Apr 16, 2009 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

on and off the court

Oden...Aldridge...Roy.....THE REAL BIG THREE

by CroRupt on Apr 16, 2009 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not telling you what to post

I simply asked what prompted you calling us out. Jeebus…..

I love basketball and talking basketball and playing basketball. I love talking about other teams playing basketball. Hell, I’d talk about you playing basketball if you want.

Witty Unpredictable Talent and Natural Game

by iDea on Apr 16, 2009 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're not the only one that asked

Several have posed the same question. Didn’t think they were all rhetorical, so I figured I’d answer.

And you’re free to talk about anything, including me playing basketball. Here’s a start: I’m horrendous.

Strength & Honor

by Josh Tucker on Apr 16, 2009 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well im done here

peace gl with da season

Oden...Aldridge...Roy.....THE REAL BIG THREE

by CroRupt on Apr 16, 2009 4:16 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe Laker fans have thicker skin?

Why would I care if the Lakers were being trashed on another team’s blog? In any event, I hate to let the Blazer fans here in on this little secret, but that happens with great regularity and has pretty much since basketball websites went up. Maybe Laker fans are used to having their team be considered the most evil entity in the NBA and aren’t bothered a bit when a website of a rival team trashes them. Honestly I’d be surprised if a Blazer blog (or Celtics blog, or Spurs blog, or Suns blog, or Kings blog, or Pistons blog, etc) wasn’t trashing the Lakers on a regular basis. The only Laker fans who would be surprised by this kind of behavior from fans of other teams are Laker fans who just jumped on the bandwagon. Fans who have been with the team for years are well used to being called every name in the book. It comes with the territory when you happen to root for the most hated team in the league.

by WildYams on Apr 16, 2009 4:26 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

AHHAHA

Beautifully sad Laker fans, taking shots at the Blazers when we have a whole series till we face eachother.. I guess you gotta get ready huh??

"Brian (Outlaw is Rejector) is now on the fan saying he put this on to see what would happen " - 123_G.O._RipCity

by Outlaw is Rejector on Apr 16, 2009 4:39 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Use us "Bedgers" for hits.

You need it.

"Brian (Outlaw is Rejector) is now on the fan saying he put this on to see what would happen " - 123_G.O._RipCity

by Outlaw is Rejector on Apr 16, 2009 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Playoff Gods Adjust Size of Blazers' Britches

Sad title. Inflammatory.

Good luck in the playoffs. – Elgin

Tonight felt like the day you open the mail and receive an acceptance letter to your dream school: the University of Playoffs. - Ben Golliver, Apr 15 2009

by 22baylor on Apr 16, 2009 4:43 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

i got the rockets in 7

yao will prove too much for the baby blazers and the rockets have artest and battier to guard roy

by Adamas on Apr 16, 2009 4:47 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Light hearted shit talking is fun

Let’s not get personal now. Blazers vs Lakers might not happen this year…It might have to be next season, but when it does……..It sure as hell will be exciting.

by Sabonis4Ever on Apr 16, 2009 5:03 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

old fashioned beat down

I think the Portland/Houston series will be decided in 6 games… either Portland will choke at home, or they will take their momentum from home down south.. and yes.. I’m going for Blazers in 6!!!

and then… IF the L.kers make it past the Jazz (afterall, let’s not get too presumptuous.. there is a reason they actually have to PLAY the series out), the Blazers will slide on down to the Staples and then all the blogging and arguing and predicting won’t matter anymore and some can go slink back into the smoggy cyberworld while the Blazers shock the nation by punking the L.kers in 6 on their way to the world championship!!!!!!

if you can’t tell, my friendly trash talk tone is on. Sure, I can also be realistic about things and get very serious about actual odds and likelihood of events happening.. and we did draw the worst matchup we could have possibly drawn… but any team can win any game… I know where I stand.. and you stand where you are SS&R.. and if both of our teams can best their first round matchups then I might just come back here to throw just a bit more smack down..

because even if the odds are stacked against us.. I’d still rather believe anything is possible while it is.. because it is..

.-*

Take it to the Hole!!

by galacticlove on Apr 16, 2009 5:24 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

So you're saying sports is fun, and betting on a longshot is also fun?

People forget this too often.

I'm a really really ridiculously good looking orange mocha frappaccino drinking manhammer sandwich

by hobobob on Apr 16, 2009 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

amazing

You boiled down what I was getting at perfectly!! This is all fun and not only is betting on a longshot fun.. but hyping yourself up with a little smack talk on another teams opponent really lets you get into the fun of it all..

Take it to the Hole!!

by galacticlove on Apr 16, 2009 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Holy cow. I can't believe you responded so many times.

Not sure if you’ll ever get down here, but it’s pretty cool that you bothered to respond soooooooo many times (I love comments for some stupid reason). I was one of the people that came over and commented. Maybe it sounded mean. I hoped it was good fun. I guess when you start getting grip loads of people saying things like that it gets to the point where you take them seriously.

Down with L*, but I kinda like this Blog. For my part, I hope you write inflammatory (this was not BTW) things about the Blazers constantly. Then we’ll have another thing to do during our boring jobs. There’s nothing like arguing with L*ker fans. It’s just for fun, and the smack talking is part of it. Sorry if we got under your skin. That said, I hope you bring it a lot harder next time because this post was not the hate-inducing diatribe I expect from a L*ker fan.

One more thing about BE you’ll want to know is that we coddle and protect our weakest intellectual links. It’s a safe place for everyone. Naturally, they hope to get that when they go other place. THAT’S NOT YOUR PROBLEM.

Good luck, and I really do hope for an L*-Portland series regardless of whether we win or not.

I'm a really really ridiculously good looking orange mocha frappaccino drinking manhammer sandwich

by hobobob on Apr 16, 2009 5:26 PM PDT reply actions   2 recs

I like your perspective

I do respond a lot, it’s true. That won’t always be the case; sometimes I’m too busy — work, my wonderful wife, etc. But when I have the time, yeah, I like to be part of the conversation, not just the instigator.

I guess I respond because I try and give people the benefit of the doubt. I assume that if they ask me, “Why would you write something like this on your blog?” it’s an actual question, and they’re earnestly interested in the answer. So I give them an honest answer. And I assume that when someone has a problem with me and explains why, they’ll be open to hearing my perspective, just as I’ve heard theirs.

Sometimes, that’s not the case. But if I take an approach to this that sees everyone as closed minded haters, impossible of intelligent dialogue, I’ll get disillusioned and frustrated in no time and won’t want to do this anymore. So I just act like it’s an actual conversation, not a sarcastic rhetorical question and/or crucifixion.

Unfortunately, you’ll have to find your hate-inducing diatribes somewhere else, because that’s honestly not what I try to do. However, I am hoping that once the knee-jerk reaction haters get bored with this, we’ll be able to enjoy some fun, interesting, and very competitive discussion between our two fanbases.

Cheers to you, and good luck to your team. I look forward to hearing from you if our teams meet in the next roun.

Strength & Honor

by Josh Tucker on Apr 16, 2009 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

SSR

Blazer fan here with no problem about this.

I always say L-A-K-E-R-S, because they are perennially one of the toughest teams in the league, and I love watching them play. I recently voted, that I have no hate for any of the Lakers players in a BEdge poll about most hated Laker.

Write your Blog the way you want, and don’t sweat the haters. It might make us mad, but trash talking is part of sports; do your thing man, and welcome to SBNation.

Finally, I can’t freaking wait to see y’all in round two. The Blazers will bring it. believe that!

Everett

I heart taxes.

by everett on Apr 16, 2009 5:29 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Hoping we see a good series, and.....

hoping to you not getting upset when the BE army comes here daily as long as the series lasts.

By the way, you had an interesting take on how the basketball gods react. Another way to look at it is the basketball gods saw how the Rockets played last night and through they deserved a quick exit (as usual) by sending them to Portland…..Co-champions of the NW division, and owners of the second best record in the west. And while they were on the bad side of a 2-1 season series, that was because only 1 game was played in Portland. Since this series will feature more games in Portland….well…… :-)

by antediluvian on Apr 16, 2009 5:51 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Valid points

More home games for the Blazers may spell more trouble for the Rockets

Strength & Honor

by Josh Tucker on Apr 16, 2009 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My god you Blazer fans can dish it...........

but you sure can’t take it. I have spent a fair bit of time at BE and I would say it’s about 70/30 split between the respectful, fun fans and the a**holes. Apparently the 30% took the day off of work. Like many others have said here today, we Laker fans get crap from other sites ALL the time. I have news for the Blazer fans “if you are really a contender now you had better get used to it”.

I’ll tell you what else (whispering quietly in your ear) it’s a sign of RESPECT. When they aren’t talking about you it means you don’t matter.

To pretend that you don’t talk crap about the L*kers constantly is actually laughable. Welcome to the Varsity, hope you stay a while.

"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley

by pslakerfan on Apr 16, 2009 6:03 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Indeed

15 thousand people went to a rally downtown just for making the playoffs. We are just so damn excited we have a good team again.

by Sabonis4Ever on Apr 16, 2009 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And they should be

"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley

by pslakerfan on Apr 16, 2009 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Blazer Fans going off on the Lakers is perpetual, which is why so many are so giddy about having this site one click away...

To review: I like both teams, which makes me a traitorous half-breed to both camps, I’m sure. But I do identify my biases, so that’s show biz…

Pontiff of the Pryz for Prez Posse...

by timbo on Apr 16, 2009 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whatever...

I just took your shit right there directed at me and I don’t give a crap….

But speaking of varsity I heard you just joined as soon as you could lure Gasol. Too bad Kobe is only jv material.

by staylost on Apr 16, 2009 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

hold on while I get up off the floor laughing.

What? I don’t even really understand this post. Nice to see you jump in about 3 hours late and not get the point of our conversation at all.

"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley

by pslakerfan on Apr 16, 2009 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh and one more thing.......

There is a reason that BE has a lot of hits. It happens to be the same reason that the Blazers fans (and SA fans, and Packer fans, and Jazz fans) are so fanatical. (whispering) It’s because there is nothing else to do there. Seriously ever notice the correlation?

"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley

by pslakerfan on Apr 16, 2009 6:18 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

...

Not a correlation, what is there to do in LA? Cheer for Kobe? You guys are no fun.

-brandonmitchell.org

by brandonmitchell on Apr 16, 2009 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dude, i like what you're saying, but Portland is one of the funnest cities in the world

I live in SD now. Portland has so much going on it destroys here. I never go to L*, though. I just can’t take it. Mostly, it’s the traffic. When I have to go there, the traffic makes all the decisions about where and when to go somewhere.

I agree with what you said about us on BE. I love the smack talking, but you gotta take a trip up north and see that city. It’s very nice.

I'm a really really ridiculously good looking orange mocha frappaccino drinking manhammer sandwich

by hobobob on Apr 16, 2009 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Um, just don't drive. I get so much crap for my plates.

If you go by a cop, those plates increase the chance of getting a ticket by 100000000%

I'm a really really ridiculously good looking orange mocha frappaccino drinking manhammer sandwich

by hobobob on Apr 16, 2009 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You must be doing something wrong.

I’m from Portland but have lived in the Bay Area for 30 years. I’ve made numerous trips to Oregon to visit family over the years and have never had any problems with having CA plates. I almost got a ticket in Washington last summer and I did get one in California after 20 years of no tix.

by MiledAnimal on Apr 17, 2009 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I should have clarified.

I didn’t mean nothing to do. I meant no other sports teams. I mean who doesn’t love a good strip club?

"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley

by pslakerfan on Apr 16, 2009 7:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And I don't live in LA....

so rip on it all you want.

"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley

by pslakerfan on Apr 16, 2009 7:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

...

You don’t live in Portland as well, so you just don’t make any sense at all. I hope to god you live in Utah, that would be IRONIC

-brandonmitchell.org

by brandonmitchell on Apr 17, 2009 1:26 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

no that would be pathetic.

and I have lived in Portland. Of course I was about 6 at the time.

"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley

by pslakerfan on Apr 17, 2009 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh really

Well….we have better/cheaper weed. IN YOUR FACE!

by Sabonis4Ever on Apr 16, 2009 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah but I live in the meth capital of the world...

so IN YOUR FACE!!! Hold on I have to clean my house 5 times and forget to eat.

"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley

by pslakerfan on Apr 16, 2009 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

oh if portlander need a meth hotspot

we just go across the river to SpunCouver, WA!!!

that’s a joke.. no portlander ever goes up into Vancouver

Take it to the Hole!!

by galacticlove on Apr 16, 2009 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But Vancouver

Has such lovely sales tax.

by Sabonis4Ever on Apr 16, 2009 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The state income tax is actually great

But what the heck job do you not have to go over the river to get?!?

oh yea.. and you’re point about the weed is crucial! i’d wager that no NBA franchise city even comes close to Portland..

especially since the Grizz moved to Memphis!!

.-*

Take it to the Hole!!

by galacticlove on Apr 16, 2009 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

what is receed?

Do you mean Reseda?

"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley

by pslakerfan on Apr 16, 2009 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Assuming that's a serious question,

it means when you like a comment or post, click the actions link and then the Rec link to indicate to the writer and others that you liked it. When a comment gets enough recs, it turns green.

by MiledAnimal on Apr 17, 2009 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guess I have never seen it in that form.

my bad.

"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley

by pslakerfan on Apr 17, 2009 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Try it. Rec my comment. You can only rec it once,

but maybe a few others will join-in and you guys can see it turn green. Five recs usually does the trick, I think, unless the host changes the setting.

by MiledAnimal on Apr 17, 2009 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lived in both places.

They both have different stuff to do. I prefer outdoorsy or academic stuff and Oregon is just better than southern california for that sorta thing so I much prefer Oregon.

Clubbing or anything like that is better in LA obviously. Shopping ain’t bad except for the giant sales tax and the fact that the Californian government is the most incompetent piece of crap I’ve dealt with. Swarzenegg ain’t the problem though, it is the insane districting. I also like the culture melting pot going on in south cal.

But if you don’t think there is stuff to do in Oregon you are probably the kind of person who is scared to walk through a forest because a bear might eat you.

by staylost on Apr 16, 2009 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whoa!

Or should I say Yao?

Somebody woke up the “azy-cra” “eople-pa” from up north. (If you know what I’m saying.)

Man, Blazer fans sure are feeling it. You made the playoffs. Yay, good for you! Now why don’t you win a round or two and stop trying to dictate what others put on their sites? Because the way I see it the Clippers still have a better playoff record than the Blazers over the last few years.

So those of you with something civil to say, stick around. For the rest of you barbarians I hear that CelticsBlog is having a meaningful debate about whether this year’s Celtic team is the “Team of the Decade”, “Team of The Century” or the “Greatest Team of Evah”.

by olf on Apr 16, 2009 7:18 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Dude. I’m glad. But I said that was over at CelticsBlog.

by olf on Apr 16, 2009 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I could care less what there is to do in Portland....

….let’s talk basketball. We know for a fact that the Lakers will be there in the Finals. Regardless of who we face. There are two things that can beat us ourselves and injuries (just ask the Celtic fans). I truly enjoy the smack talk as someone said in here. But sometimes the hatred towards the Lakers causes some non Laker fans to make ridiculous claims. Yes! the Blazers will bring it and they will without a doubt be the Lakers biggest challenge. But, that is if they get to the second round. Which is my biggest issue. As Laker fans we can say without a doubt that the Lakers will make it that far. That is based on their talent and how badly they have beaten the Jazz. It is similar as if a Laker fan were to make claims that if the Lakers play the Blazers that we will sweep them. We wont because it is a fact that the Lakers have a hard time playing in Portland and can’t win their to save their lives. But, ultimately they will pull it out. So, all you Portland fans out there, yes the city might be a nice place to visit but I am talking about playoffs which is something that this team is lacking experience in. So before you start talking about the Lakers lets see how you do in the first round! GO LAKERS!

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Apr 16, 2009 7:23 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The point that the Blazers now have to be VERY VERY SERIOUS about their first round opponent is correct. No free pass to the Laker series, for sure...

Houston is better than San Antonio and a tougher matchup with Portland, no doubt about it.

On the other hand, if the Lakers are thinking they get a free pass to the NBA Finals, they are in error. If the Blazers beat the Rockets, strap on those helmets…

Pontiff of the Pryz for Prez Posse...

by timbo on Apr 16, 2009 7:36 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

That is a big "IF" regarding the Blazers beating the Rockets......

…..Not because the Blazers cannot beat them but the biggest issue is their lack of experience. Every team has to prove itself and I think the Blazers are a tough and very good team but we will see. I just don’t like hearing andy Blazers vs Laker talk with an inexperienced team. There is no free pass for the Lakers but even if I wasn’t a Laker fan and considering that last year’s Lakers made it to the Finals rather easily without Bynum and you compare that to the Blazers current roster’s extensive playoff experience who would you put your money on?

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Apr 16, 2009 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

it's bad..

for you! or do you mean that’s too bad…

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Apr 16, 2009 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's bad

for you. and me. trust me.

The spreads are placed very well so that there is 50/50 chance for either outcome, so if the bookies do their job well, then you lose, because you pay 10% more when you lose, which will be about half the time.

Now, if you can are really good and think you can beat these people who make the spreads, then good luck to you, but chances are if you are good enough to make the spread, someone (Vegas) will just pay you to be the bookie!

by Gils_Keloids on Apr 16, 2009 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Then again, the Rockets are EXPERIENCED EXPERTS in how to lose a 7 game series...
That is a big “IF” regarding the Blazers beating the Rockets……
…..Not because the Blazers cannot beat them but the biggest issue is their lack of experience.

The Blazers are not as young as people think they are. They are not an (ahem) mature team like San Antonio or Phoenix or Dallas, but the team is built around a 3 year pro 4 year college dude that plays like he’s in his middle 30s… Przybilla is a 9 year pro, Blake about 7, Outlaw about 5, Fernandez has played in Spain and the Olympics… Oden is just a baby (but is Drew all that old?)… Batum is a baby Trevor — but he’s started all year and plays like a big boy now.

That said, this is the first visit to the playoffs as a unit for them, so we will see what we see.

Pontiff of the Pryz for Prez Posse...

by timbo on Apr 16, 2009 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't you mean TMac is an experienced expert in how to lose a 7 game series?

Without him, they might improve dramatically in the playoffs.

by C.A. Clark on Apr 16, 2009 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

Strength & Honor

by Josh Tucker on Apr 16, 2009 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey Drew was elbowing Shaq.....

when Oden was grabbing OSU cheerleader ass. :-)

"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley

by pslakerfan on Apr 16, 2009 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That was a humorous exchange

He got so damn excited after he dunked, he forgot Shaq doesn’t take any shit.

by Sabonis4Ever on Apr 17, 2009 1:47 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Indeed

Simply put, it’s really just impossible to know.

Strength & Honor

by Josh Tucker on Apr 16, 2009 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly

Lets focus on the first round and if the Lakers and Portland advance to the second round so be it. I also feel that the Portland will lose to Houston in a tough series so who knows the games will definitely be exciting. If the Lakers do meet up with Portland I still like the Lakers given that we have home court advantage forget the rose garden Portland has to win in Staples Center and they haven’t this season.

by BrittneyM on Apr 16, 2009 8:19 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow

I can’t believe such a mild bit of slight trash-talk got such a response. I guess Blazer fans aren’t used to being hated on since they’re the league darlings. Enjoy Blazer fans, it comes with the territory of being good. If you can keep it up, maybe you guys will have other fans calling you Bl*zers one day too!

by Worthy J. on Apr 16, 2009 8:28 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't think it's hatred as much as their being so many Laker fans everywhere ready to defend...

….the Lakers. We have to appreciate that so many Blazer fans came on here trying to trash talk but facts are facts. Believe me, no Blazer wants to talk about the history of playoff sucess between the Lakers and Blazers. Especially not in the last decade. They want to stick to only two topics. This year’s success and their record at home against the Lakers. That is the only thing they can stand on. Just look at what happened to the Sac Queens and what all their trash talking got them. Just Division title banners and good regular season records. So, back to the Blazers. Sports are competitive and the trash talking is always welcomed. But when a Blazer fan steps over the line we (laker fans) have to put them in their place and remind them that they have to prove themselves first before they can start talking.

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Apr 16, 2009 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

History was a class in School

History has nothing to do with this playoff season. I dunno if the Blazers will make it past Houston (I personally think they will), but if the Lakers and Portland meet in a few weeks, the outcome of the series won’t have anything to do with how the teams played each other 5, 6 or 10 years ago in the playoffs.

It will come up to matchups and execution. The Lakers and Portland match up against each other real well, and I’ve got to honest that in the 4th quarter of the last game in Portland, Brandon Roy owned Kobe. It was different in LA earlier in the year, but there’s also no doubt that Portland has hit a different gear over the past month.

I hope Portland and LA play in the playoffs if only because it will be great theatre.

by anim8r on Apr 16, 2009 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually History is the diary of the victors........

And yes by victors I mean the Lakers.

"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley

by pslakerfan on Apr 16, 2009 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good points

But there’s also no doubt that this year’s Lakers team is a “flip the switch” team, and they’ve only really flipped the switch in the regular season for Boston and Cleveland. And it’s pretty clear that the Lakers you’d be playing in the second round will be playing at a completely different level.

Strength & Honor

by Josh Tucker on Apr 16, 2009 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kobe said to the media before the first game in Portland

That the whole team was aware of the streak and wanted badly to end it. He was so pissed when they lost (got blown out) that he didn’t talk to reporters. He wanted it. I think that is what helped the Blazers in the second home game. Kobe wanted to win so bad he took questionable shots.

by Sabonis4Ever on Apr 17, 2009 1:52 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kobe wanted it

But how badly did the rest of the team? Did they really feel it? Were they really motivated? Or did they maybe think they could end the streak while giving about 80%? Kobe’s not usually the guy we worry about motivated. He’d be motivated at the park against high schoolers. But if the rest of the team feels like their opponents aren’t up to their level and they don’t have to try as hard, the Lakers’ A-team isn’t showing up.

Trust me, the team that beat Boston and Cleveland twice — at home with Bynum, and away without him — that team didn’t show up in Portland. Yet.

Strength & Honor

by Josh Tucker on Apr 17, 2009 7:22 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Totally agree...

yet Experience and Greg Oden’s foul trouble is going to be huge but it will be a battle and defenitely not easy….but let’s see what happens with Houston first.

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Apr 16, 2009 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And the Jazz.....

……never mind….can’t even say that with a straight face.

by Sabonis4Ever on Apr 17, 2009 1:53 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm glad you brought up the Sacramento Queens.

The full, original name of Los Angeles is El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora la Reina de los Angeles de Porciúncula or The Town of Our Lady the Queen of Angels of the Little Portion.

That shortens nicely to the town of the Little Queens.

by MiledAnimal on Apr 16, 2009 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm no Spanish major

But how does that shorten to the Little Queens? Not in any natural, unforced way that I’m aware of…

Strength & Honor

by Josh Tucker on Apr 16, 2009 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Harsh truth

But this team will exorcise our playoff Laker demons.

by Sabonis4Ever on Apr 17, 2009 1:50 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Besides....

What are they going to do next put up a video clip of Ariza’s phantom flagrant foul on R. Fernandez. I mean really? Is that the best you can do? I have to admit that was ingenious but we all know that wasn’t a dirty foul.

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Apr 16, 2009 8:45 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

but, but, but, Rudy fell down really, really hard.

Isn’t that the definition of a Flagrant foul? Seriously Blazers, grow a pair of 80’s.

"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley

by pslakerfan on Apr 16, 2009 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

well put!

how can we allow Blazer fans to come out here and not even a mention of that. That is as funny as the Boston media and fans complaining about the Cav’s pre and post game celebrations. C’mon! I thought this was the NBA! Blazer fan! if this is too much for you you can always go watch the Comets!

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Apr 16, 2009 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It reminds me of a quote that I hear on Rome is Burning quite often....

I think it is from Bernard Hopkins? “STEP YOUR GAME UP!!!!”

"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley

by pslakerfan on Apr 16, 2009 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yup...

we’ll see if how many Blazer fans come on here and step their trash talking game up once they get beaten in the playoffs…

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Apr 16, 2009 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Flagrent foul = pre game celebration

Yeah….I can see the similarities.

by Sabonis4Ever on Apr 17, 2009 2:04 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry, but it was a flagrant foul and it was a dangerous play out of shear frustration. The Lakers were getting pummeled and Ariza – who is not a dirty player — swiped at a player who had beat him and was in mid air, spinning him out from under his feet. There was no chance to get the ball, and when fouls like that start happening in blowout, he had to get thrown out to restore order.

Just because of how dangerous the play was he should have been thrown out. Additionally, the previous season Odom Flagranted Brandon Roy — so you’ve also got to understand that the fuse is very short in Portland re: Laker fouls.

If you think the Blazers need to grow some 80’s, then stop whining because we played a li’l video on game night.

by anim8r on Apr 16, 2009 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

All ball...

Pontiff of the Pryz for Prez Posse...

by timbo on Apr 16, 2009 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hand is part of the ball

That can be debated, but it’s well-established enough as a concept to be debatable, at the very least.

Also, at the very worst, that’s a wrist slap, and very close to a fantastic block. Foul? Maybe. Flagrant? In no way.

Strength & Honor

by Josh Tucker on Apr 16, 2009 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Except for his arm is clearly going through Rudy's head

Or is Rudy clairvoyent and knew exactly when to tilt his head. A shot to the head from behind is pretty dangerous in my mind.

That was a honorless play by Ariza and isn’t something anyone should try to defend. It’s better to say, “Hey, it was a mistake, we’re sorry about that one, glad he is OK now, and let’s get back to playing ball.”

Going on and on about how Ariza was close to a fantastic block makes me think less of your judgement.

by staylost on Apr 16, 2009 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did I say it wasn't a foul?

It was a foul, and I’m not going on and on. And I’m not saying it was a fantastic block. It was a foul.

But you going on and on about it being “dirty” and “flagrant” and “honorless” is just as bad.

It was a foul. It was called a foul. That is all.

Strength & Honor

by Josh Tucker on Apr 16, 2009 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

it was called a flagrant foul

which is what is what..
not deserving of a suspension..
but in the records as a flagrant foul..

Take it to the Hole!!

by galacticlove on Apr 16, 2009 11:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right

And that’s pretty generous (to Portland). You got a flagrant out of a play that was essentially a block from behind (you know, the kind LBJ is always praised for) with a bad landing. I’d say you got the benefit of that call. Can’t we just get over it?

Strength & Honor

by Josh Tucker on Apr 16, 2009 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh man that reminds me

Lebron’s “block” on Jason Richardson was 100x more clearly a foul, and 1x as dangerous as Ariza’s foul.

by Gils_Keloids on Apr 16, 2009 11:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Very nearly a fantastic play -- and Nic Batum has pulled off not-dissimilar blocks at least 3 times this year, as every Blazer fan knows...

Rudy is a golden boy, he went down hard and got hurt, and most Blazer fans REALLY HATE the Lakers — thus the hyperbole and overreaction to the foul.

It was a great, hustling play by Trevor, with an unfortunate outcome.

Pontiff of the Pryz for Prez Posse...

by timbo on Apr 16, 2009 11:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Did I say it wasn't a foul?"
very close to a fantastic block. Foul? Maybe.

by Sabonis4Ever on Apr 17, 2009 2:06 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haha

You know what “very close to a fantastic block” means? It means that if there hadn’t been a foul, it would have been a fantastic block. Jeez, we’re sensitive, aren’t we??

Strength & Honor

by Josh Tucker on Apr 17, 2009 7:24 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The problem I had with the foul

is that Ariza swung his arm to generate momentum at the ball — or at Rudy’s head, if that’s your interpretation. The shortest path between two points is a straight line. All he had to do was extend his arm directly toward the ball and get any part of his hand over the ball… if stopping the shot was his only intent.

It’s also not a stretch to think he and his teammates were frustrated at that point and that he felt like putting a little mustard on that block. Doing so in that situation constitutes reckless endangerment. The NFL has rules to protect the kicker and quarterback in certain situations. The NBA should do something like that for players on breakaway plays.

by MiledAnimal on Apr 17, 2009 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Perhaps

But until they do, the fact is that it was a normal, well-intended, run-of-the-mill block attempt, which ended in a very unfortunate landing for Rudy. It wasn’t malicious, it wasn’t intended to cause harm. Was it perhaps intended to be a bit more emphatic than usual? Yeah, maybe. But then, guys like LeBron James and Dwight Howard go for emphatic blocks all the time, when a simple hand straight in the air would probably do. It’s a normal part of the game. All of that is normal stuff. The landing was all that changed.

If the NBA adds some sort of rule, then we’ll expect it to be followed, and I’ll be the first one saying, “Hey, they made the rule, you gotta play smart.” But until they do, that was just a normal play that ended bad.

Strength & Honor

by Josh Tucker on Apr 17, 2009 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for bringing rational to the table

That is the first decent explanation of why someone could think it a flagrant foul I’ve seen. I don’t agree with it, but I’m glad you put it out there. Even by your argument, it would be difficult to call it dirty, which is what always gets me riled.

Anyone who interprets as him swinging for the head, look at the picture Timbo posted. Ariza’s eyes are completely tuned into the ball, and I love him, but I don’t think he’s smart enough to fake that. So his intent on the play is pretty clear.

by C.A. Clark on Apr 17, 2009 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Speaking of over-blocking,

why does no one ever try to control a block instead of batting it into the fourth row of seats? Bill Walton was a master of just stopping the ball and tossing it to our guards on the fast-break.

by MiledAnimal on Apr 17, 2009 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Honorless?

Hmm. Then every play that is a swipe should be a foul and immoral, even if the player completely misses.

Karl Malone used to do it, and you could severly hurt a player by poking him in the eye by swiping upward for the ball, or even downward. I didn’t like it, but it’s legal.

If you get the ball first, they usually let any contact afterwards go. Haven’t you seen someone get his shot blocked, yet the defender’s follow through hit the shooter? No call almost every time.

Ariza fouled him. The flagrant was only called because of Rudy’s hard landing. I’ve seen plenty worse in the air, where you gasp because you’re worried about the player, but when he lands safely, there is only a foul called, no flagrant.

by Gils_Keloids on Apr 16, 2009 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think you're arguing with a brick wall....

"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley

by pslakerfan on Apr 16, 2009 11:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Hey, it was a mistake, we're sorry about that one, glad he is OK now, and let's get back to playing ball"

Except the mistake was thinking he could get the block without touching Rudy (i.e. 80% of the fouls in the league, not many of them are actually attempts to foul), as opposed to the mistake being a lapse in moral judgement in which he thought it would be cool to try and hurt somebody.

by C.A. Clark on Apr 16, 2009 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think its flagrant because of the hard contact to the head

but indeed, there was clearly no intent to harm, and the league was correct not to suspend Ariza.

by jksnake99 on Apr 17, 2009 1:10 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You sure you're a Blazer fan.....

cause you’re way too rational. Great picture though. Yeah he got him on the head with the forearm, but this is obviously not Flagrant.

"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley

by pslakerfan on Apr 16, 2009 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I see

You kept that day’s paper. haha.

by Gils_Keloids on Apr 16, 2009 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

All the proof you need

How can somebody look at that picture and still think Ariza was doing anything other than trying to make a great play? Look at Ariza’s eyes!! They are so tuned in on the ball he probably didn’t even know where the rest of Rudy was.

by C.A. Clark on Apr 16, 2009 11:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's my take, too.

But the video from another direction looks pretty damning, and that’s what you go with in your gut if you’re already convinced that a crime has been committed.

The still photo tells the real story.

Pontiff of the Pryz for Prez Posse...

by timbo on Apr 17, 2009 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

1) The crowd needed no extra motivation for that game

2) They have shown that clip before every game ever since it happened.
3) Tell Phil to stop complaining, he didn’t even have to make the trip and suffer the HORRENDOUS rain.

by Sabonis4Ever on Apr 17, 2009 1:55 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well first of all it's sheer (not shear)....

If it was shear frustration Ariza would have cut him in half and that would be just gross (not to mention a suspension). Second of all if the League wants to make a rule that says if you hit a guy while in the air on a breakaway transition basket it will automatically be a Flagrant foul then they can. But until they do they should call the foul on it’s merits not on the result (even if little Rudy hurt his poor self).

Anyone (not a homer) who watched the foul knew it was almost all ball and obviously Ariza was not trying to hurt him. Obviously if you don’t view the world through Rose Garden colored glasses I mean. If it was so bad why did the league not suspend Ariza?

"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley

by pslakerfan on Apr 16, 2009 9:27 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Indeed

It was not the foul that was that bad, it was the landing. The foul was actually pretty ordinary. And you simply can’t make calls based on results, when the human body can do such weird things at times.

When I saw the foul, my first thought was actually how ironic it was. Why? Because I could recall two specific incidences when Ariza was on the receiving end of nearly identical fouls. They were a couple months earlier, and happened a week or two apart. Each time, the foul was legit. But each time, Ariza went flailing and twisting into the cameramen along the baseline. And each time, I cringed, sure that he was hurt, and bad. But each time, he sprang up, no worse for wear.

Neither time did it even occur to me to demand even a Flagrant I, let alone an ejection or suspension. I didn’t cause a stink about it, or even mention it to a friend in passing. As soon as Ariza popped up, I completely forgot about it. Why? I guess because I’ve got a pair of 80s.

Now, I’m not denying that Rudy landed in a way that looked painful. The way he landed, the way his back was … . But that was the _result. The foul itself was actually a very normal, run of the mill foul, the likes of which take place on a regular basis in the NBA. I felt bad for Rudy. No one wants to see a player hurt. But it wasn’t that bad a foul, just a really, really unfortunate result.

By the way, those nearly identical fouls that Ariza absorbed? No one said a word about them. No outrage. No claims of “dirty.” The dozens of other fouls that are just as bad, but just don’t end as bad, that occur on a regular basis? No one cared about them. Until Rudy. Why? Because the offender was a Laker.

Strength & Honor

by Josh Tucker on Apr 16, 2009 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You have no idea how good it makes me feel..........

to know that I have created a new euphemism. A pair of 80’s may be my only legacy on this earth.

"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley

by pslakerfan on Apr 16, 2009 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's freakin' genius

It’s about to become a part of the SS&R standard vocabulary.

Strength & Honor

by Josh Tucker on Apr 16, 2009 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Now I have something I can tell my daughter.........

that she can be proud of. “Taking a stripper home once just wouldn’t cut it”

"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley

by pslakerfan on Apr 16, 2009 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I second that...

when i first read that comment it stuck with me. Defenitely putting it in my vocabulary. genius is the perfect word to describe it.

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Apr 16, 2009 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Almost all ball?

Not a inch of Ariza’s body touched ball. His hands connected fully with Rudy’s hands and his forearm connected with his head.

by Sabonis4Ever on Apr 17, 2009 2:09 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

First of all...

….how can you acuse us of whining when it is the Blazers replaying the video. It was the Blazer players during their post game interviews that were whining. You were right about one thing that cannot be denied and that is the the Lakers were getting pummeled. But you are saying that Ariza acted out of frustration. Which means that you know him personally or you have some special gift that allows you to read minds therefore you know what Ariza was thinking of feeling. Also you have given us a description of “YOUR” version by saying that he spun R. Fernandez out from under his feet. If you look at the reply, he didn’t swipe him from under his feet. Please get your facts straight. On top of that you are saying that he should have been thrown out because of how dangerous the play was. Are you serious? Any sport that is physical is dangerous. These are grown men playing and it is a competitive sport. Regardless, it is physical and these players know what they are getting themselves into. Do you want Ariza to try and block the ball by tip toeing? It was not that the fould was hard it was the way in which he fell that made it seem worst than it was.

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Apr 16, 2009 9:29 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The reason we say Ariza was frustrated is because we don't want to hate him.

That should be obvious. To try to say otherwise would nearly be the same as trying to make him more guilty.

by staylost on Apr 16, 2009 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Huh?

Strength & Honor

by Josh Tucker on Apr 16, 2009 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That is based on the assumption

that the foul was, beyond the shadow of a doubt, dirty. Which seems like a stretch to me, Lakers fans, and the NBA governing body.

by C.A. Clark on Apr 16, 2009 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, huh?

"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley

by pslakerfan on Apr 16, 2009 11:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He was trying to make a great play

and ended up fouling Rudy.

He may have been more intense because he was upset the Lakers were losing, but he wasn’t taking out his frustration on Rudy. His energy was toward trying to make a highlight block.

by Gils_Keloids on Apr 16, 2009 11:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

on top of that...

…even the announcers calling the game on NBA.tv…not the Portland announcers pointed out after showing the replay over and over that you can cleary see that he went for the ball. Speaking of whinning, Rudy himself pulled a Paul Pierce by being taken out of the arena in a freakin stretcher and a couple of days later he was okay.

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Apr 16, 2009 9:32 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Rudy told the trainers he did not need a stretcher

But that doesn’t matter because he is fragile and not a laker.

by Sabonis4Ever on Apr 17, 2009 2:13 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

is it at our fault..

that R. Fernandez is that fragile?

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Apr 16, 2009 9:34 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Astounded

I’m really bewildered by the outrage seen here by Blazers fans. Do you guys really expect fans of rival teams to respect and praise your team? Do you guys respect and praise the Lakers? No, of course not. You guys were all here the other day when the site first went up, talking a bunch of smack about the Lakers, but at the slightest hint of a retort you guys fall to pieces. How are you gonna handle it when your team gets eliminated? It’s not a good idea to be so tightly wound like this. You guys are gonna give yourselves a heart attack before Nicolas Batum is old enough to buy booze.

No offense, but when you get this upset about something this minor you come across as incredibly insecure, like you won’t be satisfied till Laker fans recognize how great your team is or something. This is the real world though, you gotta earn respect. I respect the Celtics (even if I don’t like them) because they beat the Lakers last year and won the title. You guys want Laker fans to respect your team? You gotta beat LA in the playoffs. It’s that simple. But don’t come here and expect Laker fans to humbly respect your team. LA has eliminated the Blazers the last five times the teams have met in the postseason. What’s to respect?

by WildYams on Apr 16, 2009 9:35 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

THANK YOU!

I could see if a Spurs fan or even a Celtics fan came on here talking smack. I think that several years of experience as far as Laker fans being so used to being beat on by so many other fans has given us the amunition and thick skin to talk trash to anyone. Personally, I enjoy the banter but Portland fans will never get that respect as you said, until they beat the Lakers in the playoffs. Until then, they are just another stepping stone on the Lakers way to add to their greatness. Just another notch on the belt!

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Apr 16, 2009 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hate to agree with anything you have to say but you are right.

Our hotheads came here and popped-off and you’ve driven them into a hasty retreat. Good. I’m glad you guys have game. And WildYams, I’m really glad you could spare a minute from your busy schedule of castigating Henry Abbott whenever he writes anything about the Blazers.

by MiledAnimal on Apr 16, 2009 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't really know what that last sentence means, but......

OOOH SNAP!

"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley

by pslakerfan on Apr 16, 2009 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks

Calling out Henry Abbott is a thankless job, but somebody’s gotta do it :)

BTW, since you clearly have read my comments over there, I want to be clear: I do NOT want Abbott to start posting more stuff about the Lakers, I just don’t want what is supposed to be a general NBA blog to be so heavily slanted in any one team’s direction the way it is. I’ve never understood why he doesn’t just start his own Blazer blog or just go be one of the authors on BlazersEdge or something. Maybe I’m an idealist (doubtful), but I think a blog that’s supposed to be about the league in general should be just that.

by WildYams on Apr 16, 2009 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Understood. It's just that you rip Henry for that

every… single… time! Well, as I wrote there a few days ago, I don’t check-in at True Hoop much anymore. It’s comforting to know that some things never change!

by MiledAnimal on Apr 16, 2009 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've never been a big Shaq fan

Fat, lazy, unmotivated, back-stabbing, both insecure and egotistical. Couldn’t stand it even when he was producing for us. “Dammit, Shaq, get your ass in shape! Imagine what we could do!”

But I will always love him for being on the receiving end of that Kobe pass, and for the look on his face as he went charging back down the hardwood after putting the Blazers away.

Strength & Honor

by Josh Tucker on Apr 16, 2009 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm with you

I’m so mad at Shaq for not being able to be the “older brother” he should have been.

And he ignored Kobe’s attempt to celebrate with him. That was wack. He just kept running the other way.

by Gils_Keloids on Apr 16, 2009 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Long lost twin brother is that you????

Couldn’t agree more about Snaq.

"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley

by pslakerfan on Apr 16, 2009 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I will start at center for the Lakers..

before “burn all bridges immediately after leaving” Shaq will.

"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley

by pslakerfan on Apr 16, 2009 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do you have hops?

Pontiff of the Pryz for Prez Posse...

by timbo on Apr 17, 2009 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

mmmm not quite, but close

"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley

by pslakerfan on Apr 17, 2009 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

no

"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley

by pslakerfan on Apr 17, 2009 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope he goes to Portland to “mentor” Oden & transform that franchise like he did the Suns.

And I think the worst is yet to come for the Suns. Like the old saying goes. . .Shaq leaving is painful, like giving birth to a porcupine backwards.

by olf on Apr 16, 2009 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe Shaq is saying that

But it looked pretty obvious at the All Star game when they asked Kobe about it that Kobe would be furious if the Lakers ever re-signed him. I can’t blame Shaq for wanting to jump on the Lakers’ coattails again to try to get another ring though.

by WildYams on Apr 16, 2009 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also, history will vindicate Kobe

As Kobe has made every big man he has played with more effective than they would have been without him.

Kobe’s hobby is “growing” centers (Shaq, Kwame, Pau, Bynum) and putting them in situations where they can succeed.

by Gils_Keloids on Apr 16, 2009 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

below the belt

that was a nut punch man

by Sabonis4Ever on Apr 17, 2009 2:16 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

227 comments.......

on a Thursday 3 days from game day. Out-friggin-standing Josh.

"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley

by pslakerfan on Apr 16, 2009 9:56 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow! Speaking of Shaq brings back so many memories...

As Laker fans we must appreciate what he did…..BUT! I don’t buy that Kobe was the little brother mentality that Shaq instilled in everyone. Somehow I doubt that it was meant as a compliment. But I will leave it up to all of you to decide. Shaq was good at self promotion to mask his lack of effort in the off-season. Everyone talks about that “uncoachable” label that Phil mentioned in his book. But no one ever talks about, how in the same book, Phil also said that the reason why the Lakers didn’t four-peat was due to Shaq’s unwillingness to have foot (toe) surgery in the off season. What if we would of had Shaq now? Our demise would of been the same as the Suns. Ugh! I almost threw up in my mouth.

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Apr 16, 2009 9:59 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

This place has really given the hard core fans a place

To express themselves.

I almost feel bad for the other basketball I normally cycle through, because already I am visiting them less often than I used to!

by Gils_Keloids on Apr 16, 2009 9:59 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree...

I was so desperate that I even got kicked out of Celtic blog THREE TIMES. And I wasn’t even the one cursing. Just stating facts. i’m glad this blog exists.

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Apr 16, 2009 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey! I got kicked out too!

And all I said was the the Celtics were more rattled by the Christmas Day loss to the Lakers than they were letting on!

Man, those Celtics moderators are touchy!

by Gils_Keloids on Apr 16, 2009 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

that is funny...

that last time I got kicked out was because I called their moderator out by his first and last name on my post because he had kicked me out twice already and to my surprise he was posting on this site and all I said why he can post on a Lakers blog and I couldn’t post on their blog. Could you believe he even deleted my post. Touchy isn’t the word more like sensitive…..

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Apr 16, 2009 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I got tossed for agreeing with another poster who was defending free speech.

I thought it was a Celtics Blog regular and turned out to be a Blazer fan. My bad. But I said nothing inflammatory. They just went on a rubberstamp banning rampage…

They have like 11 moderators on Celtics Blog and so they have to make work for themselves…

Pontiff of the Pryz for Prez Posse...

by timbo on Apr 17, 2009 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The banned 13 Blazer fans in one day

Because we laughed at them for all the hardcore bitching they did after our 6 on 5 play.

by Sabonis4Ever on Apr 17, 2009 2:19 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually

That sounds like trolling, to me. I’d probably warn you first… but if you came to my house, and tried to rub salt in the wound when it was your team that was clearly at fault, I wouldn’t have a lot of patience. I’m not in the habit of defending Celtics, by any stretch of the imagination, but fair is fair. I mean, hell, you Blazer fans got in a tizzy because I dared to discuss your team on our blog. I can only imagine what it would be like if me and a bunch of other Lakers fans showed up at your blog to rub salt in the wound, especially if our team was clearly dead wrong.

So yeah — I’m no Celtic defender, but fair is fair, and I wouldn’t have lots of patience with that either. And neither would BEdgers. Do unto others…

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by Josh Tucker on Apr 17, 2009 7:30 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

what puzzled us there was the idea that the "6 on 5 play" was any different that any other bad call that led to 2 points for a team

It was a dumb rule, the Blazers got 2 points they didn’t deserve (the Celtics got 1 back by way of the technical), now its changed. The annoying part was the Celtics fans who acted like it was any different (in terms of game impact) than any other bad call.

There was certainly some “trolling” but there was also some unnecessary banning.

by jksnake99 on Apr 17, 2009 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley

by pslakerfan on Apr 16, 2009 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Speaking of Shaq...

Does anyone remember the first day he got to Phoenix. If I’m not mistaken the Lakers were playing against them that day. Anyways, the fans gave him a standing O and he was pointing at his ring finger as if he was going to lead the team to a title. Give me a break! Shaq has never lead a team to any title. He was a big part of the titles he won but if you look at the miracles that Kobe and Wade had to perform to mask his weaknesess in the fourth quarter. I have every game on DVD and in the fourth quarter of almost every game it was Kobe who lead the team to victories. Which of them was truly the little brother?

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Apr 16, 2009 10:15 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

HAHAH is this a joke? Shaq carried Kobe. 33 ppg and like 15 rebounds, you can that not leading?

You need to learn some history, Kobe is a notorious choker in big games in the finals. Wade never blew a 20 point lead in the finals on his own floor. Don’t tarnish Wade’s good name by comparing him to Kobe. Kobe is nothing with out Shaq or Pau.

by BRoyInThe4th on Apr 16, 2009 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You need to re-watch that Game 6

Kobe’s teammates disappeared. You really expect Kobe to come back all by himself, without any help, against the friggin’ Celtics?

Please.

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by Josh Tucker on Apr 16, 2009 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Which brings me to another point. Lakers try and compare him to Jordan. LMAO, homers. Jordan

made his teammates better. Kobe can’t do that because he is selfish. He kills team morale. What teammate feels comfortable playing with Kobe when he thinks he is better than everyone. With out Gasol lakers aren’t going anywhere.

by BRoyInThe4th on Apr 16, 2009 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am assuming you are about 12....

cause Jordan was an a-hole and his teammates couldn’t stand him. As far as making his teammates better? Dumbest concept ever devised. Seriously. Whoever invented that concept had a LOT of extra time on his hands.

"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley

by pslakerfan on Apr 16, 2009 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe you should read

When Nothing Else Matters by Michael Leahy

Michael Jordan may have been the greatest basketball player ever to lace ‘em up, but he has not always been a likable man. At 38, three years retired from his championship run in Chicago, Jordan was serving as president of the Washington Wizards when he decided to join the team as a player. Washington Post staffer Leahy observed it all, from the triumphs—now and then MJ did seem to be an ageless wonder—to the very ugly moments of humiliated coaches and teammates who did not measure up to Jordan’s personal standard of excellence and acquiescence.

by Gils_Keloids on Apr 17, 2009 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So you know about the Lakers team morale and what kobe does because...

you travel with the team? Do you know Kobe personally? Where are you getting this from?

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Apr 16, 2009 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jordan slapped Kerr

are you referring to the great Jordan that slapped the hell out of Steve Kerr in practice? That great teammate?

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Apr 16, 2009 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Other way around

Jordan punched Kerr

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by Josh Tucker on Apr 17, 2009 7:30 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also

He chewed out Scottie Pippen in a Finals game for not passing him the ball — after Pippen had just made a crucial three-pointer!

What a great teammate!

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by Josh Tucker on Apr 17, 2009 7:31 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let me clarify

Over the years, MJ has become this God-Like figure who never missed a shot, never lost a game, never made bone-headed mistakes, carried teams single-handedly, loved by teammates, adored by coaches, a paragon of character.

He’s become more of a model of excellence than an actual human being.

If any player fails (and they all do), MJ is held up at the example of someone who would “not have let that happen”. Really? As if MJ had full control of every situation he was in, who he played with, who he played against.

This isn’t really even a rant against MJ, who is the considered the best basketball player ever, this is a rant against “Michael Jordan” the media and fan creation that is used as a foil for any unsuccessful star player. History tends to be written by the victors, and in this case, much of it has been rewritten for Jordan, as he was the ultimate victor.

by Gils_Keloids on Apr 17, 2009 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I haven't banned or warned anyone yet

But I’m not a big fan of rehashing old Kobe flame wars. Especially those that are so patently and obviously false. That’s for other message boards.

Try to start a Kobe flame war, and you may be banned.

I’m trying to be gracious here, though, giving you a heads up instead of simply dropping the hammer.

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by Josh Tucker on Apr 16, 2009 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't see anyone laughing...

Okay so I need to learn some history so let me ask you this then you said Kobe is a notorious chocker in big games in the Finals. Is it in big games or in the Finals? All the big games that the Lakers played with Shaq and Kobe, it was Kobe that was the one leading as far as performing. That shot that Fisher hit agains the Spurs would not of been possible withouth Kobe’s prior shot. The games against Indiana, Spurs and speaking of chocking you cannot outright use that word withouth mentioned the chocke job your Blazers had. Also please go back and read my comment regarding Wade. Explain to me where specifically I compared Kobe and Wade? Besides, how you talk as if Wade is even remotely better than Kobe? Are we talking titles or stats? Wade has had one season that can even be compared to the seasons the Kobe has been putting up. Then if we are talking about comparing accomplishments then I won’t even go there. Kobe has him beat! Shaq was nothing without Kobe or Wade. Oops! does that mean i’m comparing Wade to Kobe?

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Apr 16, 2009 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not even going to read what you say if you think Kobe was more important than Shaq. Shaq dominated

in the finals. If Kobe was more important, like Wade, Kobe would have a finals MVP.

by BRoyInThe4th on Apr 16, 2009 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ah the old "stick your fingers in your ears"...

and pretend you’re not listening trick. Awesome. Did I say you were 12? Hmmm I may have to re-evaluate that one.

"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley

by pslakerfan on Apr 16, 2009 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah Josh I know I am getting a little bent...

I’ll cool it.

"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley

by pslakerfan on Apr 16, 2009 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks

Let’s stay away from guessing people’s ages. Let them do their thing, we should keep it at a higher level.

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by Josh Tucker on Apr 16, 2009 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do you think that we take Blazer fans serious...

..but if you come on here and open your mouth then you got whats coming to you. Maybe you will read this: You mentioned the word Chocker. I think Blazer fans know more about 4th quarter choke jobs…

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Apr 16, 2009 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

20 points in the finals on your home floor, that is epic fail. 15 points on a team that came back to force a game 7 is nothing

compared to that. Then having no heart and getting blown out by 40. You don’t come back from that.

by BRoyInThe4th on Apr 16, 2009 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

no one is denying that is was a choke job...

…but somehow it doesn’t feel that bad coming from a fan of a team that has to use another team’s accomplishments to prove a point. Somehow that doesn’t sting. If your best argument has nothing to do with pointing out any success between a Lakers and Blazers match then that is fine with me.

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Apr 16, 2009 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He missed

Just because he missed doesn’t mean he choked. Even the best missed. Jordan missed plenty. Did he choke, on those potential game-winners that he missed?

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by Josh Tucker on Apr 17, 2009 7:32 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Typical convo between folks with opposite views.

Extremism on both sides. Kobe has done a lot of great things in his career and made some mistakes, like everyone else in NBA history. He’s doing the best he can to be the best player and person he can be, like all of us.

The only truth about Shaq and Kobe is that they would each have a few more rings if they had stayed together.

by MiledAnimal on Apr 17, 2009 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Quite right

And a few less if they hadn’t had each other.

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by Josh Tucker on Apr 17, 2009 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm just not reading it because he failed to break it up into readable paragraphs.

That’s like the Pangea of SBN posts right there.

Plus the word “Kobe” appears to many times.

And it’s posted by some guy with a horrible name.

"The brownies,'' Fernandez said after the game. "The brownies are good for me to make three-points.''

- from Quick's Behind the Blazers Locker Room Door, 4/16/09

by ArbyOSU on Apr 17, 2009 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is it really necessary to announce to the world that you won't be reading a specific comment?

Frankly, it’s inflammatory, and implicitly derogatory. Don’t want to read it? Don’t! But announcing that you’re not reading it is a subtle way of announcing to the world that you think he’s an idiot. And that’s not cool here.

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by Josh Tucker on Apr 18, 2009 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You say Portland needed a miraculous 3 like that matters. Yao need Roy to foul him to give the Rockets the lead. They also needed the Blazers to let them back into the game late. This is a much better team right now, that was the Blazers 4th or 5th game. If we beat them with that weak chemistry at home, now it shouldn’t be as hard.

by BRoyInThe4th on Apr 16, 2009 10:24 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't know why............

but I just can’t stand reading posts with bad grammar, spelling, and punctuation. I don’t really care what the content is, go ahead and rip the Lakers, but seriously people make it readable.

"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley

by pslakerfan on Apr 16, 2009 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

so what's worst

you saying that you are not going to read a post?

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Apr 16, 2009 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

you should probably stay out of this one, buddy...

just sayin’…

"The brownies,'' Fernandez said after the game. "The brownies are good for me to make three-points.''

- from Quick's Behind the Blazers Locker Room Door, 4/16/09

by ArbyOSU on Apr 17, 2009 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Announcers..

The announcers for the playoffs.

Utah at Los Angeles, Game 1 (ABC, 3pm)- Mike Breen, Mark Jackson, Jeff Van Gundy, Lisa Salters
Utah Jazz @ L.A. Lakers, Game 2 (TNT, 10:30pm)- Marv Albert, Reggie Miller, Craig Sager
L.A. Lakers @ Utah Jazz, Game 3 (TNT, 10:30pm)- Marv Albert, Reggie Miller, Craig Sager
Los Angeles at Utah, Game 4 (ESPN, 9pm)- TBD

If you want to see the others they are at
http://awfulannouncing.blogspot.com/2009/04/your-round-one-nba-playoffs-announcing.html

by intuitive on Apr 16, 2009 10:26 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Did any of you see and hear former Sonics play-by-play man

Kevin Calabro during the Blazers-Nuggets game on Wednesday? I’d heard he’s good, and he really is. Knew his stuff, made intelligent comments, didn’t yell or giggle hysterically. I wish the Blazers would pick him up.

by MiledAnimal on Apr 17, 2009 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anyone want to hear something really, really sad.

I have season seats, and playoff tickets. Unfortunately I am BROKE with a capital BROKE. So I have to sell all of them. I wait like 20 years to finally get season seats, my team kicks ass, and I have to sell my friggin playoff tickets. Luckily there are lots of buyers so I can make a nice profit, maybe pay for next seasons tickets, but still. It is like watching puppies get tortured. arghhhhhhhhhhhhh.

"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley

by pslakerfan on Apr 16, 2009 10:27 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I would whore myself out first

I would sell all of my possessions (except my laptop) and live in the streets.

…Well, okay, so I have a wife that I need to take care of. But if I was single… those tickets are the last thing to go!

Strength & Honor

by Josh Tucker on Apr 16, 2009 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Believe me if I was single I would too.

Actually I would whore her out as well, but I don’t think she will go for it. I will probably pretend that some didn’t sell and go at the last minute, but still it sucks big ass.

"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley

by pslakerfan on Apr 16, 2009 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

How about just keep Games 4, 5, and 6 of the Finals

For yourself?

Then again, that’s probably where you’ll make the most. Harumph. Stupid economy.

by Gils_Keloids on Apr 16, 2009 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah that's where all the money is.

I wish I could, but the economy where I live stinks. I live in a 2nd home mecca and I am in construction. In other words I have a lot of free time.

"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley

by pslakerfan on Apr 16, 2009 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The only reason I had to say something was when I read that kid write that Kobe was more important than

Shaq. That is the biggest joke ever. Lakers had a 3-1 lead on the Suns and blew it. Where was Kobe then? Look at Shaq’s finals numbers. Off the charts.

by BRoyInThe4th on Apr 16, 2009 10:44 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

This is turning into a flame war

And an off-topic one, at that. Continue it, and you’re banned. Really, I’m doing my best to be gracious here.

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by Josh Tucker on Apr 16, 2009 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Didn't take long

For this to devolve into exactly the sort of thing I’d hoped to avoid. I know its naive to expect a blog to stay all civil, but couldn’t we have kept the dream alive a little bit longer?

by C.A. Clark on Apr 16, 2009 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Stick around

I’d rather avoid the reputation of dictatorial banning simply based on who you root for that some blogs have around here, but flame wars I will not tolerate. Give us a chance to clean it up, we still plan on keeping the discussion intelligent the vast majority of the time.

Strength & Honor

by Josh Tucker on Apr 16, 2009 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

someone to emulate

J, I’ve always thought that the FB&G blog was one of the best places to talk anything Lakers and basketball because it was built so nicely. Perhaps you could emulate Kurt’s motto of banning/deleting any character attacking comments without hesitation.

by hertagnism on Apr 16, 2009 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

I will soon implement some rules, among which will be pretty quick banning for character attacks

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by Josh Tucker on Apr 16, 2009 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is going to get heated because of the rivalry...

As long as we all remember that and we don’t get into offensive language or get disrespectful with each other we should all be okay. I just hope that this blog does not become like the Celtics blog where if you just say anything even remotely negative you are called a troll and kicked out.

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Apr 16, 2009 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not gonna be that way

But if a flame war starts, we need to identify it, request that it be dropped, and then take some action if it’s continued. Since it looks like you’ll be a regular, I’d appreciate your help on that.

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by Josh Tucker on Apr 16, 2009 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just for clarification...

what does “flame war” mean??

"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley

by pslakerfan on Apr 16, 2009 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ah, it's a vague term

But one definition, to me — applying specifically to sports — is the ad nauseum repitition of “Yuh HUH!!! Nuh UH!!!” arguments, thrown around like trump cards, which benefit nobody. Much of the Kobe discussion, at the lower levels, boils down to that.

Actually, it’s why I started Respect Kobe — to move beyond that.

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by Josh Tucker on Apr 16, 2009 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

flame war...

…seems to be where tempers seem to be escalating. Just a guess. I would be more than happy to help.

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Apr 16, 2009 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Another good definition

It’s when it’s not an open conversation anymore. You’re yelling your points and not hearing his, he’s yelling his points and not hearing yours, the discussion is going nowhere and everyone’s just getting angry. That’s one kind of flame war, and it just doesn’t do anyone any good.

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by Josh Tucker on Apr 16, 2009 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

got it.

thanks.

"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley

by pslakerfan on Apr 16, 2009 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or...

The most obvious form of a flame war is when hardcore Kobe fans and hardcore Jordan fans get together and argue which one is better. There’s a million of those out there. From what I’ve seen, ESPN.com seems to have a breeding ground of those.

by hertagnism on Apr 16, 2009 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

good example...

I’m staying away from those…too big of a Laker fan to let that one go..

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Apr 16, 2009 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly

And you can replace “Jordan” with “LeBron” and, to a lesser extent, “D-Wade,” and the same applies. Those all tend to devolve into flame wars (though it is possible to have a civil, reasonable, well-articulated, productive discussion on any of those topics — just extremely, extremely rare).

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by Josh Tucker on Apr 16, 2009 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If people could just learn from Ron Burgandy

and “agree to disagree” after they’ve run out of rational arguments, flame wars would happen a lot less.

by C.A. Clark on Apr 16, 2009 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

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by Josh Tucker on Apr 16, 2009 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll just step out on a limb and say

in response to #3, no. Even though I am a diehard Laker fan, my homerism and purple & gold eyesight has me saying Magic Johnson was the best player ever.

I almost went into a panic attack that one time when John Hollinger dared to say that Chris Paul was on pace to become better than Magic.

by hertagnism on Apr 16, 2009 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hate the term "makes his teammates better", but.........

Magic was the undisputed king of “make your teammates better”.

"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley

by pslakerfan on Apr 16, 2009 11:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So true

If Magic didn’t retire prematurely, he would have pushed his career assist total up to 20,000.

It just feels wrong when I see Mark Jackson’s name next to John Stockton and Magic Johnson and above Oscar Robertson’s.

by hertagnism on Apr 16, 2009 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

When I hear "flame war" I immediately think of the following...

"The brownies,'' Fernandez said after the game. "The brownies are good for me to make three-points.''

- from Quick's Behind the Blazers Locker Room Door, 4/16/09

by ArbyOSU on Apr 17, 2009 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

First of all i'm not a kid...

…second of all you are forgetting that this is a Lakers blog and although the trash talking is great the purpose here is for LAKER fans to post their opinions. I don’t see this site filled with Red, Black and White or whatever your team’s colors are. This is site bleeds Purple and Gold. So give your opinion all you want. Now back to my point..now try and listen. If you cannot say that Kobe was more important than Shaq you cannot say in the same sentence that Shaq was more important than Kobe. He wasn’t. Period! I could care less whether you agree or not. Speaking of Shaq’s Finals numbers. During the back to back Finals, Kobe’s stats were better. Look it up. The problem that I have is the you let your hatred for Kobe guide your point of view and you are the type of Kobe hater that will not give Kobe credit no matter what. If so, tell one positive thing you have said about Kobe?

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Apr 16, 2009 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

PaGfL

Let’s let the Kobe/Shaq flame war rest, alright? I’m not into banning Lakers fans, but I also feel the need to be fair. So do me a favor, and don’t egg him on. I appreciate your passion, but let’s just end this one here.

Strength & Honor

by Josh Tucker on Apr 16, 2009 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

thank you.

i can respect that…it’s squashed! I appreciate the warning.

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Apr 16, 2009 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am not trying to be a dick, but.....

Garnett goes down for the playoffs and then Ainge has a heart attack? That can’t be a coincidence.

"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley

by pslakerfan on Apr 16, 2009 10:48 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Lol

That was e-vil.

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by Josh Tucker on Apr 16, 2009 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dam! I just heard about...

Basketball is a sport but real life is real life…I hope he gets better as for KG…Oh Well!

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Apr 16, 2009 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hope it isn't true

It is always bad to see players injured and it is just gut wrenching to see a player of KG’s importance to his team go down.

However, I’m not sure what kind of injury it is since the team is omitting a lot of information. During the Utah game where he was injured, he had jumped and it appeared as if his knee just gave out before he even landed so here’s hoping Doc was exaggerating with his statements and KG comes back and gives Boston the legitimate chance to defend their title.

by hertagnism on Apr 16, 2009 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Indeed

It’s sweetest if they get a legitimate shot… and are taken down!

Also, I want Boston healthy so that they, Cleveland, and Orlando can beat up on each other before the Finals!

Strength & Honor

by Josh Tucker on Apr 16, 2009 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly

I would hope that Orlando gets taken down because I fear their squad the most. Dwight Howard is a beast.

by hertagnism on Apr 16, 2009 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No kidding

They are just a matchup nightmare. Problem is, they’re a matchup nightmare for everyone.

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by Josh Tucker on Apr 16, 2009 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Including themselves

A team that relies that strongly on the 3 ball is not built for post season play. No team wants to face them, but they’ll lose to someone because the shots will run cold at some point.

by C.A. Clark on Apr 16, 2009 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But how great would it be...

to see such a team pull it off? That would be exciting basketball.

Strength & Honor

by Josh Tucker on Apr 16, 2009 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The GM for Orlando has done a great job

surrounding Dwight Howard with complementary players (basically guys who can hit the three ball and can play adequate defense due to their size and/or quickness)

by Gils_Keloids on Apr 16, 2009 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also, I may be wrong but

the GM that drafted Dwight Howard in the first place was scrutinized. How funny some things turn out.

by hertagnism on Apr 16, 2009 11:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Because he was a dumb foul prone rookie

Much like Bynum and Oden. Okafor was more polished at the time. Looks like the gamble paid off.

by Sabonis4Ever on Apr 17, 2009 2:29 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Except for giving Rashard Lewis a max contract.

Why are some GMs so stupid?

Kobe = max contract.
Wade = max contract.
LeBron = max contract.
KG = max contract.
T-Dunc = max contract.
Dwight = max contract.
Rashard DOES NOT = max contract.

by MiledAnimal on Apr 17, 2009 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well...

They could throw the ball into Superman when the 3 ball isn’t dropping. That could work too.

by hertagnism on Apr 16, 2009 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey Timbo....

You just got some love from Snoop Dogg on Sportscenter. He said we (meaning the lakers) don’t wanna meet Brandon Roy in the second round. Just thought you’d like to know.

"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley

by pslakerfan on Apr 16, 2009 10:55 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Man I just can't get enough Snoop Dogg

dude cracks me up everytime

"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley

by pslakerfan on Apr 16, 2009 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My favorite thing about Snoop...

is how he shows up in full gear at different team’s locker rooms. One year he is in full purple and gold on the floor seats the next he is in Golden State gear in the locker room the year they beat the Mavs in the first round.. priceless!

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Apr 16, 2009 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow. Overreaction was clearly the rule on this topic!

A fairly innocuous, though slightly snarky, post originally. Some of my fellow Blazers fans with particularly short fuses go off, causing the less patient of the Laker fans to pop off.

Gotta love that web site traffic, eh???

Personally, I think Portland wins this series in 7. Portland has the longest winning streak in the NBA going into the playoffs, and there’s clearly something to be said about peaking at the right time. The lack of playoff experience hurts, and Houston DID win the season series. But these teams are going in opposite directions right now. It sure as hell won’t be easy, but I think Portland takes it. Then gives the Lakers a hard series. Hard enough for ya’ll to get just a bit worried. Then I think LA will take over and win in 6 or 7 games.

Seriously, I hope this site does well. Keep doing what you’re doing. Us Blazer fans and you Laker fans will be talking enough about big games against each other in the next few years. And when the Blazers take the Lakers out of the playoffs next year, I hope we can be just as civil.

Yes! Yes! In the face!

by LeafHawk on Apr 16, 2009 11:09 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I going to be really honest here

I don’t know 100% who is going to win the Portland – Houston series.

by Gils_Keloids on Apr 16, 2009 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Like all the other series

Any series in the west besides Lakers-Jazz can be considered a tossup so you’re not alone with that thought.

by hertagnism on Apr 16, 2009 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haha

Fair enough.

Strength & Honor

by Josh Tucker on Apr 16, 2009 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You forgot one thing...

I read your post twice to make sure that I wasn’t mistaken but there is one thing that is going to be HUGE for the Blazers success this year. That is G. Oden’s inability to stay out of foul trouble. I have actually seen sports casters include his foul average in his stats. He is going to have a hard time staying out of foul trouble agains Yao.

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Apr 16, 2009 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oden gets a LOT of ticky-tack fouls

His footwork isn’t where it needs to be, but that’s gonna take time for an NBA rookie who is coming off of major surgery. The second knee injury, while being relatively minor, had to hurt his confidence as well. But those have contributed to him not being as sharp as we’d like and getting some extra fouls.

But I cannot count the number of times that he’s barely bumped into someone with his hip away from the ball, or simply been NEAR a player that falls down, and he’s gotten called for it.

Basically, we’re hoping that the refs decide to let more go like they usually do. That’s a big part of it. But he has shown some improved movement and focus in the last few games. We’ll see if that can continue against someone like Yao.

Either way, Blazers still have Ghostface Przybilla. He’s been solid as a rock this year on defense. Gets boards. The combination of Przy and Oden should hopefully be able to keep Yao in check.

Yes! Yes! In the face!

by LeafHawk on Apr 16, 2009 11:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

True Oden starts next season

We are gonna have to make due with a slow, foul prone, dumb rookie and not play him many minutes this post season. Blazer fans keep saying “we have 12 fouls to use on Yao” WTF? He is a 90% free throw shooter. The key to the series is going to be LaMarcus Aldridge fronting Yao and leaving Scola by himself on the perimeter (they used this tactic in the most recent game and it had success, but only in the first quarter).

by Sabonis4Ever on Apr 17, 2009 2:34 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good point

I’ve always felt that Yao destroyed any excuses people gave to Shaq. “Oh, well, Shaq’s hands are so huge, the ball is like a tennis ball in his hands! That’s why he misses free throws!”

Uh, no. When a 7’6" guy like Yao shows up, and can shoot, sorry, no go. Shaq doesn’t have any excuses. He doesn’t have any legitimate reasons why he can’t make free throws. The real reason? He can’t shoot!

Strength & Honor

by Josh Tucker on Apr 17, 2009 7:36 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just guessing, but I'd bet Shaq's hands are a lot bigger.

Not that that’s an excuse to miss free-throws. He could have learned to shoot ’em underhanded like Rick Barry if he was more concerned with winning than not looking uncool.

by MiledAnimal on Apr 17, 2009 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's 11:16PM PST

And I miss NBA basketball games.

by Gils_Keloids on Apr 16, 2009 11:16 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, well it's 1:16AM here

And I’m a fool for still being awake.

Strength & Honor

by Josh Tucker on Apr 16, 2009 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

where are you again?

"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley

by pslakerfan on Apr 16, 2009 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kansas

Which isn’t as bad as some think, until you factor in the part about me being a near-rabid Lakers fan.

But even if my wife wanted to be that far away from family… no way I can afford to live in CA, at this point.

Strength & Honor

by Josh Tucker on Apr 16, 2009 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is that still a state?

Just kidding. Wow I wouldn’t have guessed.

"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley

by pslakerfan on Apr 16, 2009 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah you need to slow it down

It’s a marathon, not a sprint.

I would put a smiley face after that sentence, but it’s not my style.

by Gils_Keloids on Apr 16, 2009 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I always do this

when I start something new. It’ll even out in time.

Strength & Honor

by Josh Tucker on Apr 16, 2009 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

Just watched a great hockey game though. Go Ducks.

"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley

by pslakerfan on Apr 16, 2009 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I gotta admit...

there is strength in numbers I love how many Laker fans there are around the US just by seeing the stands when the Lakers play away. But the best part of all that is to hear Kobe get such loud MVP chants in Denver, New York and who could of guessed even Sacramento. That one was a shocker, even more than Denver.

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Apr 16, 2009 11:24 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Alright folks, I'm out

I’m guessing the Blazers fans didn’t actually expect me to hang around and answer their questions or respond to their criticisms so faithfully. I’m thinking they thought they could put out a “Why would you even write this on a Lakers blog?” here and a “You’re just a hater” there, and no one would answer, making their questions appear rhetorical, as though the point was taken.

Glad to see the fight in some passionate Lakers fans. I’ll insist that we keep the bar set high in terms of conduct, refusing to stoop to their level, but beyond that, I don’t expect any rolling over. Like I said in my intro post, no apologies, no matter how much they love to hate. Nicely done, Lakers fans.

For those reasonable Blazers fans I had the privilege of “meeting” tonight: Hope to be goin’ back n’ forth with you next round.

Feel free to continue talking amongst yourselves. Tomorrow, I may be looking for your input on how to keep things fairly relaxed, while at the same time having the necessary rules guidelines to foster intelligent discussion. It is, after all, our blog, so I’ll want to know how you’d like to see things done here.

’Night all.

Strength & Honor

by Josh Tucker on Apr 16, 2009 11:26 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

So I guess i'm the last one here...

…oh well! I’m going to bed to. I guess. The best part about this site is that I have found Laker fans with the same passion as I do. I am happy to be able to see and hear haters’ point of view. The easy part is that as many anti-Laker fans there out there there are only very few teams that can rival the Lakers’ consistent success. But I do admire the opposition and their refusal to give in to the idea that this team is supreme above all. Yes! especially the Celtics. LET’S GO LAKERS and good night!

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Apr 16, 2009 11:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

See ya.

Pontiff of the Pryz for Prez Posse...

by timbo on Apr 16, 2009 11:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Silver Screen

Man I feel for you. You’re fighting an admirable fight, but its just not one you can win. You will drive yourself absolutely crazy trying to defend your posts and this blog from every drive-by inflammatory comment.

If other fans want to come here and bitch and moan about how our ideas are not fair to them or just plain hate on the Lakers, then just let them. There are far to many to argue with. Why, while I was writing this at 2 in the morning 8 more comments were made. Just ignore the whiners like you would a child who teases, eventually they will find no audience for their rants and leave. The most you can do is kick out the disrespectful ones and endure the others.

The Lakers are one of the two most successful franchises in NBA history, but with such success comes a lot of bitterness and ill will. We, just like the Lakers when they hit the road, must endure. Eventually members of this community will become familiar with one another and be able to moderate and defend their own comments by using the arguments of others.

I think that drive-by posts are major problem, so I will expand upon this comment and put it in a fanpost so that hopefully everyone here at SS&R can get on the same page and discourage such occurances.

Keep up the good work

by Sideout11 on Apr 17, 2009 2:06 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Excellent

I look forward to reading your thoughts

Strength & Honor

by Josh Tucker on Apr 17, 2009 7:38 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow. I saw all the comments and I knew before I reda them

that Blazer’s Edge fans had infested the blog. They are so predictable. A bunch of cockroaches trolling around.

A bunch of them had to get banned from Celtics Blog after the Blazers beat them.

Blazer fans need to grow up.

by wondahbap on Apr 17, 2009 5:38 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It was really hilarious watching the Celtics go into a tailspin in the aftermath of the rubberstamp banning rampage.

How’s your Kevin “Bark Like a Dog” Garnett looking for the playoffs, by the way?

I wonder who Minnesota is gonna get for him in the draft…

Pontiff of the Pryz for Prez Posse...

by timbo on Apr 17, 2009 8:52 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

A couple things for Blazer fans to understand

Since there are so many Blazer fans here (and have been since day one), I wanted to point out a couple things to you all from a Laker fan’s perspective.

1. You know how you guys hate the Lakers more than any other team, to the point where you almost want them to lose more than you want your own team to win? You have to realize that Laker fans don’t feel the same way about your team. I mean, if the Lakers are playing the Blazers or if the Blazers represent some threat in terms of playoff seeding or something, then we hope they lose; but honestly otherwise we don’t really think about them too much. Through these last few years when Portland was struggling we kinda forgot the Blazers were even there, just like how we’ve sort of forgot that Sacramento is still there. There’s been dislike for the Blazers in the past when they’ve been a legit threat to the Lakers’ title chances, like back in 2000, but it’s probably the same kind of dislike that you Blazer fans have right now for Houston.

2. It’s not arrogance or some sort of cockiness that makes me say this, or that makes Laker fans have this kind of attitude, it just wouldn’t make sense for Laker fans to fixate on the Blazers in this way. The Lakers and Blazers have had a lot of postseason battles and have been conference (and before that, division) rivals for a long time, but from a Laker fan’s perspective you could say that about a lot of teams. Certainly you would say the Lakers have had more battles with the Spurs in the last decade than anyone else, but as a Laker fan I don’t fixate on them anymore than anyone else either. They only matter that much if they’re good enough to threaten the Lakers’ chances for a title, same as anyone else. As strong as the rivalries in the past have been for the Lakers with teams like the Suns or the Jazz or the Kings or the Celtics or whoever else, I’ve never had any kind of particular pleasure in watching those teams be miserable for the simple reason that if they are that bad, then why should I even care about them? After all, if they stink then they’re not threatening my team.

3. Your unflinching dislike for the Lakers is not unique. Maybe Blazer fans don’t think about the Lakers much when Portland’s teams aren’t that good, or maybe you guys all tune in to vociferously root against them even when your Blazers aren’t playing them, I don’t know. I do know that the attitude you have towards the Lakers is something that any Laker fan gets from fans of just about every other team. And I mean, the exact same attitude, right down to the comments about how awful California is, or what a fake city LA is, or how Kobe is so selfish, or how Laker fans are so smug, how you can’t stand all the celebrities at the games, and how the crowds at Staples center arrive late, etc. We Laker fans hear all of that from everyone, not just from you Blazer fans. They chant “Beat LA” everywhere, not just at the Rose Garden.

4. In short: we don’t hate you as much as you hate us. We may get annoyed that you come here and make such a stink in a threat like this, but the only reason there’s a thread like this in the first place is because you came here the other day without provocation and made such a fuss. I can tell you that the reaction from Laker fans here wasn’t what you probably expected it would be (which I’m guessing was “Ah yes, it’s those hated Blazer fans! We knew this was coming.”). Really we were all just surprised. We figured there would be some trolling here, but found it just bizarre that it seemed to be all Blazer fans who were doing it.

So in summation, you just need to realize that Laker fans look at Blazer fans in a very different way than how you view us. We look at your team right now as a team that could be a tougher than average opponent in the next round, but ultimately they’re just an obstacle to overcome on the way to what will hopefully be another championship. So when you come here all worked up, try to take a second to look at things from our perspective. After all, you could very easily argue that the Lakers’ first round opponent, the Utah Jazz, are more of a rival right now than Portland is, given that Utah eliminated the Lakers from the postseason twice in the late 90s and were really the last obstacle for the Shaq-Kobe Lakers to overcome to win a title; and because the Lakers faced Utah in the playoffs last year. The Lakers haven’t played Portland in the postseason in 6 years, and they haven’t been beaten by Portland in the postseason in 17 years; and even if you guys are loathe to admit it, it is possible the Blazers will lose to Houston and won’t end up playing the Lakers this year either. The Lakers face a big “rival” in every round of the playoffs each year, and that’s why your team doesn’t stand out more than any other teams the way the Lakers do in your eyes.

by WildYams on Apr 17, 2009 8:55 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

This is brilliant

Pure genius.

I think you should take this, make it more general (directed at the entire NBA/any given team, rather than directly at the Blazers), and make a blog post out of it.

Strength & Honor

by Josh Tucker on Apr 17, 2009 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That could be aranged :)

I thought about doing that anyway, but since we’ve already got a post up about the state of the site here, I was worried about getting too meta in the first week here. I’ll work on doing that though and get it up shortly.

by WildYams on Apr 17, 2009 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It doesn't need to be now

You can save it for later, if you like. I’m not picky. I just know that this was brilliant, and I want to see it expanded a bit, and given a bigger stage, at some point.

Whenever it makes sense.

Strength & Honor

by Josh Tucker on Apr 17, 2009 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Too late :)

I just posted it to the main page.

by WildYams on Apr 17, 2009 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

When it's fully reciprocal, then the universe will be in total alignment...
So in summation, you just need to realize that Laker fans look at Blazer fans in a very different way than how you view us.

Pontiff of the Pryz for Prez Posse...

by timbo on Apr 17, 2009 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I liked that quote too. I just wanted to say, “We know, and it’s a good thing.”

"The brownies,'' Fernandez said after the game. "The brownies are good for me to make three-points.''

- from Quick's Behind the Blazers Locker Room Door, 4/16/09

by ArbyOSU on Apr 17, 2009 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, you're probably right...

but for the reference to the Blazers and their fans in the main post. Y’all aren’t silly enough to think it wouldn’t attract Bedgers, are you? This long post in reply is way more energy than I afford people/things that don’t mean much to me. You will have less Blazer fans in here the minute you stop talking about our “britches”.

That said, most of it is fairly true, simply due to the fact that your city is a major market that will always attract big time names, and be covered, ad nauseum, by the media.

Make no mistake, though. It’s very annoying to fans of teams in small cities that you have this advantage and that the major media goofs toot that Laker/Cowboy/Yankee horn regardless of whether the team is actually relevant. That “villian” aspect of all the leagues makes each more fun. We know no one hates us like they hate you, just as you should be confident that the “hate” is not personal, but stems from the boredom of watching the same team enjoy the luxuries yours in afforded, year after year.

Your team is high on the relevance scale this year, so enjoy it, but also in the down years, recognize that the Lakers, as a team, enjoy many advantages over the smaller market teams, so take your lumps with pride.

I, for one, hope that LA is nothing but an obstacle for the Blazers to hurdle for years to come.

by The Penguin on Apr 17, 2009 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Your team is high on the relevance scale this year, so enjoy it, but also in the down years, recognize that the Lakers, as a team, enjoy many advantages over the smaller market teams, so take your lumps with pride.

I don’t see how we’re on the down years when our best player is only 30, our second best player is 27, and our center of the future barely turned 21. Granted, the team isn’t as young as the Blazers, but to assume that the team is on the way down is ridiculous. The team’s still on its way up. It hasn’t even peaked yet.

by hertagnism on Apr 17, 2009 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am REAL late posting this.

I don’t mind that you wrote about the Blazer fans, as long as you don’t talk crap about the Blazers themselves. We are crazy fans but very proud of it, and very proud of our team. What other fans would get 15,000 people together to celebrate making the playoffs? Only in Portland.

Some people’s expectations are through the roof right now, when at the beginning of the season we would have been happy to make it to the playoffs. We are not going to win a title this year unless something magical happens. However, there are many fans that forget this. All I know is that as much as I hate the Lakers, there is no other team I want to match up with. There is no other team the Blazers want to match up with either. We will win championships, but we have to fight through you to get it first.

That said, I cannot stand most Laker fans. I don’t know if it’s the cockiness or shit talking or what. At both Laker games I went to this season, I got cussed at and flipped off by Laker fans as they were exiting after talking crap the whole game about how they would win. Poor representation of Laker fans…same with some Blazer fans on this site. I know that I am looking forward to discussing future match-ups with people on this site, as well as on Blazers Edge. This will become a major rivalry for years to come.

We know our team has had bad times in the past, but we are very proud of them and their accomplishements this season, and these guys deserve respect. Not just from other teams, but from the media and other teams fans as well. At this point, I get frustrated because we don’t. Although your post was not clear to most people, I look at it as a compliment. At least you took the time to write about them and the crazy fans that love everything that they do :)

Regarding BRoy:"Another day, another buzzer-beater. This man is so clutch he sets his body clock to go off one second before his alarm does every morning."

~Rob D from NBAmate

by twiggs on Apr 17, 2009 10:34 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

That said, I cannot stand most Laker fans. I don’t know if it’s the cockiness or shit talking or what. At both Laker games I went to this season, I got cussed at and flipped off by Laker fans as they were exiting after talking crap the whole game about how they would win. Poor representation of Laker fans…

I have been to many a Blazer-LA game at the RG where Laker fans routinely seem to lash out and talk sh*t, even in the opening minutes before either team has established any kind of lead.

In my experience, and part of the reason I dislike Laker fans so much, Laker fans aren’t as focused on the game as they are on being in good seats, talking smack and chanting “M-V-P” as Kobe shoots free throws in a losing effort. And for not being a rivalry, I must admit that I’ve never seen an actual fan brawl at the RG when anyone BUT the Lakers are in town.

I’m sure not all Laker fans are jerks, but why is it that all of the douche bag Laker fans live up here or travel here for games? Don’t you have room down there?

"The brownies,'' Fernandez said after the game. "The brownies are good for me to make three-points.''

- from Quick's Behind the Blazers Locker Room Door, 4/16/09

by ArbyOSU on Apr 17, 2009 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why are the Blazers themselves off limits?
I don’t mind that you wrote about the Blazer fans, as long as you don’t talk crap about the Blazers themselves. We are crazy fans but very proud of it, and very proud of our team.

Honestly, you’ve got to be a little more thick-skinned if you can’t handle people trashing the players themselves. Look at how much crap gets talked about Kobe. You can’t expect fans of other teams to respect your players, it’s just not realistic. Besides, odds are great that none of use knows any of them personally anyway, so we have no idea what any of them are really like. Every player in the NBA might be the greatest guy ever or the world’s biggest prick, but we probably won’t know either way. In any event, my advice to you is this: if you can’t handle seeing one of the guys who plays for your team get trashed then you probably should just stick to Blazers-only sites.

by WildYams on Apr 17, 2009 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for the Laker perspective.

Respect as in “they are a good player”, “wow they are young but can be ligitimate”..those types of things. The matter of the fact is, besides Kobe, your team is completely overrated. The Blazers are completely underrated. I know you aren’t used to it, because everything on NBA or ESPN talks about how great you are (whether or not they hate Kobe) and how many championships you will win. Blazer fans get that our team is too young, will get knocked off in the first round, etc. I think these guys have shown that they are a team to look out for. Unfortunately, we have yet to gain any national respect. So, regardless if you feel it is unrealistic, it is the truth.

And my skin isn’t thin, but thanks for looking out for me. I respect many non-Blazer players for the type of game they have. I don’t live in a bubble.

                         
                         

Regarding BRoy:"Another day, another buzzer-beater. This man is so clutch he sets his body clock to go off one second before his alarm does every morning."

~Rob D from NBAmate

by twiggs on Apr 17, 2009 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Err.. "fact of the matter"

Typing too fast :)

Regarding BRoy:"Another day, another buzzer-beater. This man is so clutch he sets his body clock to go off one second before his alarm does every morning."

~Rob D from NBAmate

by twiggs on Apr 17, 2009 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wha...?

Gee, how hypocritical of you. You ask, on a Laker blog no less, that nobody say anything bad about the Blazer players, and then you say everyone on the Lakers is overrated. Listen, there are a couple realities that Blazer fans need to get through their heads:

1. The Lakers are generally considered to be the favorite (or at worst the 2nd favorite) to win the title this year. That is the prevailing opinion of virtually every basketball expert, every sports betting oddsmaker, and every unbiased fan. Even if many people are rooting against them, they recognize that, overrated or not, this Laker team is damn good.

2. The Lakers are not an old team. Other than Derek Fisher, Kobe (at 30) is the only Laker player in his 30s. Meanwhile, most of the role players are in their early 20s, and one potentially budding star (Bynum) just turned 21. This is not a veteran team in its twilight, but a team that is entering its prime.

3. The odds are strongly against Kobe getting appreciably worse in the next couple seasons. Consider that Michael Jordan, a player Kobe is often compared to, won his last championship when he was 36, and at that point he was still the best player in the league. Further consider how legendary Kobe’s work ethic is, not just on the basketball court but also in taking care of himself through treatment. Realize that in the last 4 seasons Kobe has missed a combined total of 7 games, and 4 of them were due to suspensions (he missed one game with an ankle sprain and missed the first two games of the 2006-2007 season while recovering from off-season surgery). The guy is very durable and very focused and is more than likely not going away any time soon.

4. No matter what anybody tells you, you absolutely can NOT predict what will happen in the NBA beyond one season in the future. This is doubly true with the economy being what it is and with a new Collective Bargaining Agreement in the next few years. Just looking at the salaries for Portland you can see that just about everyone is coming up for contract renegotiation in the next 2-3 years. Portland’s got deep pockets to pay everyone to stay, but it’s in no way a given that they will pay real market value to all those players just so they can stay in support or bench roles in Portland when they could be starting or getting more minutes somewhere else. You never know what can happen, be it free agency, trades, or even lockouts. Look at where the Lakers, Celtics, Magic, Suns, Mavs and Heat were just 2-3 years ago and how much things have changed. Don’t just assume Portland will win any championships, because that is in no way close to being a certainty. Portland will absolutely have to contend with the Lakers for the next 2-3 seasons at least, so you never know what the future looks like.

Finally, to answer what you wrote above, the Blazer players and the Blazers as a team will get respect when they’ve earned it, and to do that you have to win in the playoffs. They haven’t earned anything up till this point.

by WildYams on Apr 17, 2009 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Got it.

I’m a hypocrite, you are a Laker fan.

Nice talking to you.

Regarding BRoy:"Another day, another buzzer-beater. This man is so clutch he sets his body clock to go off one second before his alarm does every morning."

~Rob D from NBAmate

by twiggs on Apr 17, 2009 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, like I said

You’re probably better off sticking to Blazers-only blogs if you’re that thin-skinned.

by WildYams on Apr 18, 2009 3:33 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kobe's not Michael.

That’s all I really have to say. If Kobe were Michael, you would’ve been shining up a trophy and some rings last year…

"The brownies,'' Fernandez said after the game. "The brownies are good for me to make three-points.''

- from Quick's Behind the Blazers Locker Room Door, 4/16/09

by ArbyOSU on Apr 17, 2009 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And Michael is not Kobe

And if William Wallace were here he would consume the English with fireballs from his eyes and lightning bolts from his arse.

Let me guess – If Michael Jordan had Kobe’s team, they would be 82-0, sweep the playoffs and never blow a 20 point lead in the Finals.

Thanks for your speculation and unprovable claims!

by Gils_Keloids on Apr 17, 2009 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm glad we agree how ridiculous it is when people compare the two.

Phew, I thought we were going to have to debate this point but it appears you see that the two don’t belong in the same sentence together. What a relief!

"The brownies,'' Fernandez said after the game. "The brownies are good for me to make three-points.''

- from Quick's Behind the Blazers Locker Room Door, 4/16/09

by ArbyOSU on Apr 17, 2009 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sure, No Problem, Let's hear what two of MJ's teammates have to say about it
In 2007
Austin (Brea, CA): Hey B.J., you played with Mike and i was just wondering what areas you think Kobe needs to develope in order to be as dominant a player in this league as MJ?

SportsNation B.J. Armstrong: Up until this year, I say this about Kobe, when you mention his name with Jordan, I didn’t think it was even possible. Now when you do that, I think you can mention him in the conversation. You can talk about Kobe as one of the best players of his era and of all time. I played with Jordan and Kobe is right there. In the next few years, he will be in the conversation of the best of all time. When you can score 81 points in an NBA game you have to take him seriously.
Don’t worry. I’m still an M.J. guy. I’d better be, because if it weren’t for him I never would have had the career that I did. (Or the one that I have now, for that matter.) But the fact is, there are facets of Kobe’s game that are better than Michael’s – in particular, dribbling and perimeter shooting. Michael was more explosive, and he’s by far the greatest player ever, but in baseball parlance, Kobe’s “stuff” might be a little better. – Steve Kerr, March 30, 2007

by Gils_Keloids on Apr 17, 2009 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know, ridiculous isn't it?

I’m glad you and I agree though, Gils. Here’s a valentine from me to you, new friend.

"The brownies,'' Fernandez said after the game. "The brownies are good for me to make three-points.''

- from Quick's Behind the Blazers Locker Room Door, 4/16/09

by ArbyOSU on Apr 17, 2009 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Your loss.

You’re missing out.

"The brownies,'' Fernandez said after the game. "The brownies are good for me to make three-points.''

- from Quick's Behind the Blazers Locker Room Door, 4/16/09

by ArbyOSU on Apr 17, 2009 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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