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Classy Lakers Fans

[Ed. Note:  Lakers fans and Blazers fans do not get along. Of course, for Lakers fans, being hated by fans of other teams is nothing new. It's also understandable that fans of other teams get burned out by the more classless of Lakers fans. I don't buy the idea that there is a higher percentage of classless morons in our ranks than in the ranks of any other fanbase — there's more of them overall, just because there's more of US overall. But I'd argue that the percentage of classless fans to classy fans is no different in the Lakers' fanbase than anywhere else.

Case in point: Here, in the SB Nation blog network, Blazers Edge has the most classless, trollish fans out in the SBN NBA community. We get bombarded with them, from time to time, and we're not the only ones. But that's simply because there are more "BEdgers" than anyone else. More people, more total morons — that doesn't mean there's a higher percentage.

In any case, we don't get along with very many "BEdgers," and they DEFINITELY don't like us. Which makes what jscot has to say here truly remarkable. Would that we should have more "Can't we all just get along?" moments, like these. I've gone on for too much already — I'll let jscot take it from here.]

As a Trailblazer fan since 1970, one who liked West but hated Wilt, Kareem, Magic, and everyone who came after, I never thought I'd join a Lakers' blog to make a comment.  Well, I might have, but it would be a comment that would get me banned for life.

Do you sense a "But..." coming? Click the jump...

Star-divide

Why do we hate the Lakers?  You know, every time I type that it comes out L@kers.  I have to keep going back and changing it because you don't allow that.  Doing it the real way (with the @ sign) has become engrained -- I suppose it was because my parent taught me not to swear, and even typing "Lakers" feels dirty to a black-and-red-bleeding Blazer fan.  Who knew there'd be a site that actually required swearing?

Anyway, right here on a Lakers' fan forum, I'm going to tell you that often Blazer fans hate the Lakers as much for their fans as their team, sometimes even more.  You probably know the fans to which I'm referring, the ones who know nothing about basketball, jump on a bandwagon, and then rant and rave and make themselves intolerable.  I know that we have Blazer fans like that as well, they infest the Internet everywhere, but yours seem to be louder, and crasser, than anyone else's, even Boston's.  I don't know why that is.  Maybe it is just me that thinks that, because I'm a Blazer fan.

So why am I here?  Primarily to say that Blazersedge has had an infestation of Lakers' fans in the last 48 hours or so.  Lakers' fans coming to offer condolences, to wish Greg Oden well, to say they know what it feels like, etc., etc.

Class. 

It's been the Rockets and the Lakers fans leading the way, though fans of other teams have come along, too. 

I still hate the Lakers.  Always will.  Sorry, that's just the way it is.  I am on record as saying that the only thing better than having the Lakers miss the playoffs is sweeping them 4-0 in the WCF.  Even if I wanted to change my opinion, I couldn't.

But you guys have a lot of classy fans.  People are people everywhere, and in every one of us there is both good and bad, but there's been a lot of good coming out the last couple of days.  Basketball is a game, and a fun one, but it's just a game.  We're all human beings, and you have been well represented by some fine human beings. 

That kind of thing needs to be recognized, acknowledged, and appreciated.  So thanks to you all from one Blazer fan, for being classy, for keeping wins and losses in perspective, for functioning on the level of shared humanity instead of the superficial level of basketball rivalries.  Your comments don't help our team in the least, but it's at times like this that basketball intersects with human reality in the things that matter, and you've been well represented by those who recognized and embraced that intersection.

Take care, all.

p.s. Your "all home all the time" schedule is about to catch up to you.  (I just had to throw a little trash talk in, sorry.)

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Great Post! thank you.

originally when I went to the site after the announcement I saw a post that had 996 comments at the time. So I knew that this situation wasn’t just a normal situation. It is more dishartening not because we can relate but because of the emotion on Oden’s face and because he truly is like a gentle giant. At least that is how I view him.

btw…to good teams or championship contenders it doesn’t matter where you play. all teams play 41 at home and 41 away. : )

"These young guys are playing checkers. I'm out there playing chess" - Kobe

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Dec 7, 2009 1:08 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Thank for the compliments.

We hope he comes back mentally and physically strong.

By the way. The road games won’t affect us. Check the record from last year. Best Road team in the NBA!

by wondahbap on Dec 7, 2009 1:58 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

We are basketball fans,

Hate to see him go down in such a terrible way. He seems like a good guy who just wants to prove ppl wrong. His season was going pretty well. Hope he comes back sooner rather than later.

On the road or at home we are still the best!!!

" I'm a human, not a sandwich"

by true_lakerfan on Dec 7, 2009 2:34 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Nice post

I don’t like players hurt (with a few exceptions Rondo and Bowen comes to mind).And I was looking forward to a Oden vs. Bynum match up. Oden was looking promising too. As for crazy rabid fans your right we have it on all sides. We will still dominate home or away.

by Ray DLC on Dec 7, 2009 2:39 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for the post.

I went to BE after the injury to offer my condolences, but I couldn’t figure out how to say it without sounding phony. Also I didn’t want to be thought of as sarcastic or trolling or whatever so I didn’t post. Hope you guys still make the playoffs so we can kick your butts with or without Oden. :-)

However I am actually looking forward to some road games so we can pass the Celtics on Hollinger’s stupid Team Rankings………what a dope.

Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."

by pslakerfan on Dec 7, 2009 3:11 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

always look forward to what you are going to post

never hold any punches..i like that.

"These young guys are playing checkers. I'm out there playing chess" - Kobe

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Dec 7, 2009 3:19 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, that's why my wife like me too.

Actually……………I have no idea why my wife likes me.

Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."

by pslakerfan on Dec 8, 2009 7:54 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Honestly I could care less about the Blazers but I like timbo and don't have much against any Blazers fans

thanks for the class jscot!

Shaquille O'Neal: "Tell him Shaq doesn’t respond to juvenile delinquents without a college degree. Tell him to get his degree, and we can talk. In the meantime, he should call me Dr. Shaq because I’m working on my PhD." (Referring to 17-year-old rookie Andrew Bynum, who compared himself to Shaq…except that he can make free throws.)
(courtesy of www.shaqquotes.com)

by KobeisGod on Dec 7, 2009 4:42 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Ever since I can remember

The Blazers have always been a decent west coast rival to the Lakers. Other teams in the Pacific have come and gone (like th Kings, Suns, Sonics), but it always seems the Blazers are in the mix.

The new Blazers should be another strong rival to the Lakers over the next few seasons and the young centers may be what tips the balance when they are healthy.

Thanks for the post.

"If you don't take out his battery, he's going to keep going all day."

by S Jay Bruin on Dec 7, 2009 4:51 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Classy post...

Leave Chad Billingsley alone!!!

by shaqfor3 on Dec 7, 2009 5:03 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

damn, I am vacillating between “this is a harsh comment” and “you tell him brother!!!”.

Still not sure……….

Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."

by pslakerfan on Dec 7, 2009 5:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Why vacillate?

You can have both.

Add in humorous, as well. I loved his second paragraph.

The best part, from a Blazer fan perspective, is that his vocabulary shows he is highly literate and intelligent, yet his lack of rationality on this topic has so affected his mental processes that his spelling went all skew-whiff (two spelling errors and a missing hyphen in one short paragraph? Amazing for someone of his caliber). I’m tempted to copy it over to the Bedge as an example of how following one particular team can infect the thought processes of even the most intelligent people, with obvious deletorius effects.

I’ll go now, before I say something to get me banned.

#52

by jscot on Dec 8, 2009 2:00 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think he just threw in a couple of mis-spellings to see if you were paying attention. =)

Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."

by pslakerfan on Dec 8, 2009 7:47 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

What I don't get

is why you guys don’t rec his comment? I would have thought it would have turned green in five minutes or something.

#52

by jscot on Dec 8, 2009 12:59 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

not sure....

We hardly ever “go green” around here. I guess it never caught on.

Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."

by pslakerfan on Dec 8, 2009 1:49 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

lol

" I'm a human, not a sandwich"

by true_lakerfan on Dec 8, 2009 2:26 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

good point.

Josh, work on that!!!

Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."

by pslakerfan on Dec 9, 2009 11:00 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

sorry timbo.. but it’s true

by altree on Dec 8, 2009 1:36 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

There's a few Lakers fans who post on Blazersedge

and while there’s always a few idiot Bedgers with dumb things to say, if they come to talk about basketball, rather than just trolling about the Lakers being better because some celebrity has season tickets, they usually get good basketball conversation. And the rest of us shout down the idiots, because we actually like intelligent basketball conversation, even if it is with someone who supports THAT team.

But since you feel the way you do, there’s probably no need to come. Some people are cuckoo, but that’s not the way I roll.

#52

by jscot on Dec 8, 2009 1:47 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

jab, jab upper-cut

" I'm a human, not a sandwich"

by true_lakerfan on Dec 8, 2009 10:29 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

dumb question

Why is his post green? am I missing something?

"These young guys are playing checkers. I'm out there playing chess" - Kobe

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Dec 10, 2009 10:51 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

When a post gets rec'd a certain number of times (3 I think) ...

it’s turned green so that other people will be able to see it easier. It’s a function that never really caught on here, but on other sites like BEdge, members will rec good posts enough times that it will catch the eye of others.

by C.A. Clark on Dec 10, 2009 12:54 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

thnx

what does rec’d mean? j/k…..

I guess my posts will never turn green then. : )

"These young guys are playing checkers. I'm out there playing chess" - Kobe

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Dec 10, 2009 9:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Short for recommended

If you click on any comment, or post, under actions, there is a n option to Rec the post.

by C.A. Clark on Dec 10, 2009 11:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

ooooh wow!

I swear I never noticed that. I only use the reply botton. Great to know. sorry for my dumb ass questions. I never knew that exsisted.

"These young guys are playing checkers. I'm out there playing chess" - Kobe

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Dec 11, 2009 6:51 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

No worries

Glad to be informative.

by C.A. Clark on Dec 11, 2009 7:11 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

how come you don’t know why? (sorry, can’t help it)

by altree on Dec 11, 2009 11:45 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

huh?

I don’t get it.

"These young guys are playing checkers. I'm out there playing chess" - Kobe

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Dec 13, 2009 1:45 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

about the rec' thing

turning one’s comment green. I’m just ribbing you though. Nothing to it.

by altree on Dec 13, 2009 5:21 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

it's all good

don’t know why I don’t know. seeing someone’s post green is not something that is common. I know i’m retarded. I just never knew.

"These young guys are playing checkers. I'm out there playing chess" - Kobe

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Dec 13, 2009 8:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The Scot is a good dude.

"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal

by timbo on Dec 7, 2009 7:24 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for the nice comments

(And I know you are a good road team, but when your franchise center just went down, you have to grasp at something.)

#52

by jscot on Dec 8, 2009 1:40 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Typical

If all this particular poster can come up with in his attempt to minimize my thought processes are mistakes in orthography, I will take it! Having lived in Italy for the last thirty years, and very rarely speaking English, I would be surprised at the contrary.

By the way, deletorious?

by cuckooroller on Dec 8, 2009 2:42 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Ah, good, you caught it!

Well done. Yes, I mangled deleterious — don’t you think it added to the entertainment of the discussion?

I live in Scotland, and what we call English barely qualifies as such.

All in fun, I enjoyed your comment.

#52

by jscot on Dec 8, 2009 6:10 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, and by the way

I know that the Americans usually leave the “o” out, but we use both spellings here.

#52

by jscot on Dec 8, 2009 6:12 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I went to Scotland a few years back and let me just say.....

It is much easier to read what you guys write than to understand what you say. Loved the golf though.

And by “you guys” I mean my ancestors of course…..

Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."

by pslakerfan on Dec 8, 2009 7:50 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It's ok

I can’t understand the people who live five miles down the road, either.

#52

by jscot on Dec 8, 2009 1:00 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

A By The Way

Jscot,
I have no particular bone to pick with you, obviously a fan just as partisan as I am though for another team. Therefore, as a way of explanation and presuming that you are not a total partisan, I have always been slightly dysgraphic. I normally proof what I write, and I did recognise my orthographic mistakes. Unfortunately, there is no edit button on this site. I even managed to mistakenly write your mistake, now how’s that!

by cuckooroller on Dec 8, 2009 3:02 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Finally recognized

There are legit basketball fans within the Laker community. Let’s be honest, having Greg Oden hurt all the time must freaking blow. And I always want the Lakers to play the best a team has to offer. No one was happy when Oden went down in Laker land. We want a healthy Blazers team, so we can prove to you we’re better. (That doesn’t seem classy, but it’s actually a compliment).

Classy post Mr. Blazer fan.

Well let me welcome everybody to the wild wild west. A state that's untouchable like Elliot Ness.

by pharoah on Dec 8, 2009 5:35 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Precisely
We want a healthy Blazers team, so we can prove to you we’re better.

The joy in any achievement is increased or diminished by virtue of the difficulty of the obstacles which must be overcome.

Next year, hopefully both teams will be healthy, and it can all be settled on the court, rather than in the operating room. And I do expect you to have the edge next year as well, but then, who knows?

#52

by jscot on Dec 8, 2009 6:16 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The worst part of it is that when we play at the Rose Garden this season,

only one of two things can happen now.

1) You beat us “without” Greg Oden and give us loads of shit.
2) We beat you “without” Greg Oden and we can’t give you any shit.

Shit.

Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."

by pslakerfan on Dec 8, 2009 7:53 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Every cloud has a silver lining

but that one isn’t one I’d thought of.

I suspect you’ll finally break that streak this year, though. Fernandez just had back surgery (possibly the after-effects of that hit by Ariza last year, one more reason to hate for those who want it).

#52

by jscot on Dec 8, 2009 1:03 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

We know.
Next year, hopefully both teams will be healthy, and it can all be settled on the court, rather than in the operating room. And I do expect you to have the edge next year as well, but then, who knows?

That implies that:
1.) Greg Oden is the deciding factor in this"rivalry."
2.) The Blazers were good with a good Oden.
3.) You expect to be good next year.

Yet, there is nothing to go on to think any of those things.

The Blazers haven’t been good this year, although Oden has been. He wasn’t a factor in our troubles in Portland last year. I suspect that the Blazers aren’t good enough to deal with the raised expectations, and pressure of being a supposed elite team (see NOH last year). Plus, as long as you still have Andre Miller on your team, next year might look worse.

You know the saying," You can’t turn a hoe into a housewife." Andre Miller is the ho, and winner is the housewife. His teams never win. Stephon-lite.

Unfortunately, you have more injuries than Oden’s and I hope you can get fairly healthy before 1/8/09.

by wondahbap on Dec 8, 2009 9:33 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I can honestly say that I have never, never seen this sentence in print…………anywhere;

“Andre Miller is the ho, and winner is the housewife.”

Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."

by pslakerfan on Dec 8, 2009 9:49 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It's not just Oden

Didn’t you notice?

Batum has been out since the start of the season. He was our starting SF.

Outlaw is out, only played a few games. He was our third leading scorer last year.

Fernandez is now out. You know, the guy who set the rookie record for 3 pointers.

We’ve been playing Juwan Howard at forward, you know, the guy who is so old he can’t do anything anymore.

By next year, Andre will either be the best backup PG in the league or traded.

#52

by jscot on Dec 8, 2009 1:08 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Timbo

just listed all the injured players/staff that are injured in Portland. That is Brutal!

"These young guys are playing checkers. I'm out there playing chess" - Kobe

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Dec 8, 2009 1:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

If we manage to steal a playoff spot

some of them might be back for the playoffs.

#52

by jscot on Dec 8, 2009 1:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Unfortunately, you have more injuries than Oden’s and I hope you can get fairly healthy before 1/8/09.

by wondahbap on Dec 8, 2009 1:26 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

well..

greg oden isn’t just a loss for the blazers.

it’s a loss for the whole of NBA. i mean the fans who really appreciate basketball would really feel bad or him and it doesn’t really matter if he’s playing for a rival team of something.

honestly, when i was watching that game and saw oden went down, and when brandon roy just threw up his hands like “oh no, please no!” you really emphatize with him, with roy, with the whole blazer community, it’s just not fair.

by doublemint on Dec 8, 2009 8:29 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Thats the truth,

It seems as though some players are prone to get injured more. i dont even have an explanation as to why. It just blows sometimes because it cheats us out of a great battle down low between Bynum and Oden. I feel its been a while since we have had two great centers go at it.

" I'm a human, not a sandwich"

by true_lakerfan on Dec 8, 2009 10:35 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe you'll get Bynum-Howard in the Finals again

with Bynum at the top of his game….

#52

by jscot on Dec 8, 2009 1:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

been there, done that...

we want Boston

Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."

by pslakerfan on Dec 8, 2009 1:46 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes.... Yes we DO

" I'm a human, not a sandwich"

by true_lakerfan on Dec 8, 2009 2:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

amen!
we want Boston

If Boston is healthy they will make the Finals for sure.

"These young guys are playing checkers. I'm out there playing chess" - Kobe

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Dec 8, 2009 2:35 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think the oden injury is just a reflection of an even more worrying trend.

3 of the top 10 centers in our league are constantly getting injured. Yao, Oden and of course, yours truly, Bynum. It’s scary to see these guys get chronically injured, because despite their great talent, they hardly reliable.

I think alot of the laker sympathy comes from the fact that we too know all to well what its like to lose a promising big man. Hopefully our good Karma wont take Bynum away from us this year.

In Kobe we trust!

by robi s on Dec 8, 2009 12:12 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

also add Big Z, and Stoudamire to this list.

In Kobe we trust!

by robi s on Dec 8, 2009 12:12 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

the people at denver stiffs should check out this post.

Leave Chad Billingsley alone!!!

by shaqfor3 on Dec 8, 2009 7:50 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

most of the should have their middle fingers cut off.

Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."

by pslakerfan on Dec 9, 2009 12:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think I am public enemy number one over there now..

they hate my guts! I think.

"These young guys are playing checkers. I'm out there playing chess" - Kobe

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Dec 10, 2009 10:50 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

they hated your guts before you typed your first word.

don’t take it personally, they don’t respond well to reason.

Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."

by pslakerfan on Dec 10, 2009 3:06 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

hey i found denver stiffs official motto:

Leave Chad Billingsley alone!!!

by shaqfor3 on Dec 10, 2009 6:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

awesome!

"These young guys are playing checkers. I'm out there playing chess" - Kobe

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Dec 10, 2009 9:13 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

oh I know...

never take it personal. The key, something i learned along the way, never get emotional. It works beautifully. SternfluffsKobe tried to get a rise out of me but he gave up.

"These young guys are playing checkers. I'm out there playing chess" - Kobe

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Dec 10, 2009 9:13 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Good one

Yeah if you respond to their antics with intelligent and logical response they get pissed off if you don’t get riled up.

by Ray DLC on Dec 11, 2009 7:00 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I think the Jazz fans are worse than the Blazer fans!

Having moved to Utah from L.A. 4 years ago I get to see the Lakers play twice a year. Even when I don’t wear Laker gear I have to sit through 48 minutes of constant insults. Here are a couple of examples. 48 minutes of calling Kobe a rapist of 12 year olds. Throwing peanuts at Laker fans. Watching a Laker fan in a Jack Nicholson seat get thrown out because he threw back a Jazz t-shirt that the Jazz mascot stuffed into his Laker sweatshirt pocket. Loudly booing Derek Fisher for leaving the Jazz to get better treatment for his very ill Daughter. These are just a few of the classless things the Jazz fans do. I almost don’t want to go to the games anymore but I’m not going to let these punks keep me from rooting the Lakers on! Jazz fans you are pathetic!!!!!

by jdcrosier on Dec 16, 2009 5:50 AM PST reply actions   0 recs


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Kobe Game Winner vs Raptors - Whoa, I watched this and then I read the comments on Youtube claiming Kobe travelled, which I had not heard of. Then, after watching a few times, I have to say, I agree, Kobe changes his pivot foot before putting the ball down on the floor. I also think there's no way a ref catches that in real time, and even if they do, they can't be sure enough to call it then, either.
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