Lakers beat Warriors as SS&R ignores game completely
The "staff" here at Silver Screen and Roll does our best to provide you with the most comprehensive Lakers coverage on the web. Every game has a preview, an immediate post-game reaction, and a next day recap or editorial regarding the team, and of course a game thread where we can all enjoy (or revile) the game together. With the other two staffers on travel right now, all of those responsibilities fell to me for last night's game. Then life sort of dealt me some events that required my attention, and the blog fell to the side. My bad, I'd say it won't happen again, but it probably will sometime in the future. It certainly won't happen often, though.
I really don't have time to provide more than a cursory analysis of last night's game. You all managed to take care of yourselves on the game thread quite nicely, now here's your chance to do so on the analysis as well. Please feel free to fill in the holes in the comments section.
The Lakers started the game looking like a team that was playing it's 4th game in 5 nights. They looked tired, and were clearly conserving energy by simply not playing defense. The Warriors jumped out to a quick lead by getting out on the break, and the Lakers could not keep up. Too many first half turnovers, and too many first half bricks led to too many Warriors run outs and too many easy buckets.
The first quarter was encouraging on one note though, because the Lakers were making a clear attempt to run their offense. Kobe Bryant was the main proprietor here, you could see him making all the right cuts, and looking for teammates who were doing the same. When the Lakers could be bothered not to turn the ball over, I think 70% of their first quarter possessions ended in a dunk. Defensively strong, the Warriors most certainly aren't, but at this point, we'll take whatever execution we can get.
The 2nd half saw the Lakers start down 9. At this point, two things happened. The Lakers cleaned up the turnovers, and Kobe Bryant got really pissed off at the thought of losing 3 out of 4 games. He came out in the 2nd half aggressive, and ended up with 27 points in the half, for a a total of 44 points on 27 shots for the game. It's really nice to have a Kobe Bryant in games in which no one else came to play.
Unfortunately, the bad defense continued, and I really do think there were some tired legs out there. The Lakers starters have logged heavy, heavy minutes over the last 5 days, and it really showed. But this is certainly not an excuse, as the Warriors were on a back-to-back as well. C.J Watson was eating the Lakers alive, hitting 4-5 from 3 pt range. Monte Ellis got whatever shot he wanted at the rim. And the entire Warriors team was getting just enough blocks and fast break opportunities to stay in the game.
In the end, Kobe was too much, the Lakers picked it up on D just enough to get the victory, and the bench actually provided some nice play in the 2nd half. It wasn't pretty, and nothing the Lakers do seems to be pretty these days, but it was another victory, allowing the Lakers to continue to set the pace for the league.
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C.A. Clark
Hope everything all good with you. Welcome back!
The Lakers barely won so a win is a win and we can get the New Year started off right. Thanx to the bench and LO finding his pulse and banging the boards the Lakers won.
"Michael Jordan once said the quality Bryant possessed that reminded him most of himself was the desire to distance himself from contemporaries."
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Dec 30, 2009 7:34 AM PST reply actions
Don't worry about me, I'm fine
There’s just a couple hours of my life I can’t get back, and those couple hours were supposed to be spent watching the Lakers and hosting a game thread.
cool
"Michael Jordan once said the quality Bryant possessed that reminded him most of himself was the desire to distance himself from contemporaries."
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Dec 30, 2009 8:39 AM PST up reply actions
Looks like you saved the day
With your game thread!
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
by Gils_Keloids on Dec 30, 2009 1:02 PM PST up reply actions
Very nice game by Jordan
It was nice to see Jordan in the end of the game and do well. He ended with 12 points, 5 assists, 3 steals, and only 1 turnover. He also hit that big three with only a couple of minutes to go. My favorite stat: assist to turnover ration 5:1.
If Jordan can keep it up, play within himself, and contribute at the end of games, Jordan may still find himself on our team next year. I hope so because Jordan is one of my favorite players.
Lamar = Laker for Life...Go Pads...Go Bolts
by mrbarneydangles on Dec 30, 2009 8:01 AM PST reply actions
I miss Ron-Ron
And as much as I consider it bad for Kobe to put up over 30 a lot, “Thank you Kobe!!!!! : ) : )”
We needed that!
Shaquille O'Neal: "Tell him Shaq doesn’t respond to juvenile delinquents without a college degree. Tell him to get his degree, and we can talk. In the meantime, he should call me Dr. Shaq because I’m working on my PhD." (Referring to 17-year-old rookie Andrew Bynum, who compared himself to Shaq…except that he can make free throws.)
(courtesy of www.shaqquotes.com)
According to Phil
If he seems okay by today he will play Friday against Sacramento.
"Michael Jordan once said the quality Bryant possessed that reminded him most of himself was the desire to distance himself from contemporaries."
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Dec 30, 2009 8:40 AM PST up reply actions
Here’s my analysis. Another game vs the Warriors is about exciting as a game with the Nets. Since we played them a few times in preseason I’ve seen enough of them already this season.
I do love it when they trip up the Celtics or Dallas or some other contender. Just glad that doesn’t happen to the Lakers.
The Lakers "Too big, too strong, too long, too good."
The W's may have faults but they
are the most exciting team in the league. They play a fun up tempo game as apposed to having 3 big slugs pound it down low. BORING!!!!!!
by Eschew Obfuscation on Dec 30, 2009 11:05 AM PST up reply actions
No offense intended and I’m glad you enjoy your W’s. But like I said, I’ve seen enough of them this year.
They play differently than most every team in the league but that doesn’t make them interesting. They aren’t making the playoffs and to me are just a team to play to rack up some wins but no more than that.
The Lakers "Too big, too strong, too long, too good."
Well, how exciting is your team
in June.
Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."
Yup and so do the Suns
but ask steve Nash if he wouldn’t trade one of those up tempo seasons for one ring? I’ll take boring and Finals bound over exciting and possibly being playoff bound. I think you would say the same.
"Michael Jordan once said the quality Bryant possessed that reminded him most of himself was the desire to distance himself from contemporaries."
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Dec 30, 2009 6:07 PM PST up reply actions
Uh, way different comparison
Phoenix was good because it was uptempo, as last year’s Porter disaster showed. And I think Nash would have been happy with the few rings that might have been his save for injuries and suspensions.
The Warriors are bad not because they are uptempo, but because they have a very inefficient offense. It’s irrelevant whether you’re uptempo or a grind-out team, what you do with your individual possessions matters (as the SSOL Suns and Saunders-era Pistons, both superb offensive teams that were uptempo and molasses-slow respectively can attest to).
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
Not sure what inuries you are referring to
but that “injuries” reasoning can apply to many teams in the past. Not sure what you mean by suspensions. Either way, they don’t have any rings regardless. There has only been one fast pased team that has won a title and that was any Magic lead team. Period!
The Warriors being bad has nothing to do with offense. I’m sorry but that is completely wrong. It has to do with them not having any defense. Just think of any Nellie coached team. Offense if overrated when compared to defense. You have to at least consider that defense wins titles. And I didn’t see any mention of that on your post. How important is defense in your formula? Because it was defense by the Pistons that kept the Lakers from winning a 4th straight title.
"Michael Jordan once said the quality Bryant possessed that reminded him most of himself was the desire to distance himself from contemporaries."
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Dec 30, 2009 9:33 PM PST up reply actions
Uh, the Stoudemire/Diaw suspension in '06-'07? Johnson's injury in '04-'05? Stoudemire's injury in '05-'06?
Did you watch the playoffs the last few years? And the notion that “no fast-paced team has won a title” is pure garbage. First, the Lakers fall into that category (top ten in pace the last few years), so you’re wrong there. Next, to call Phoenix an unsuccessful team because they encountered a run of bad luck despite unprecedented success (four 50+ win seasons, two of them 60+, two WCFs) is simply ignorant.
And in any case, you missed the point of my post entirely. You claimed that, “Nash would trade one of those uptempo seasons for a ring.” Well, he did trade one of them last year in the short-lived Porter era and they were horrible. An uptempo team does not equate with being bad — it’s a matter of how efficient you are with individual possessions. The SSOL Suns shot the lights out and were superb from distance, hence leading the league in offensive efficiency for most of their run as they were always getting good shots on their possessions. The Porter-era Suns slowed the pace down and got far inferior looks, as Nash’s strengths were almost entirely negated and Stoudemire suffered in a half-court setting. Conversely, the Warriors are most uptempo team in the league and have a bad offense (20th in offensive efficiency) because they use possessions so inefficiently (namely, lots of turnovers). To use a counterexample, the Saunders-era Pistons, despite being one of the slowest paced teams in the league, were consistently posting top ten marks in offensive efficiency because they never turned the ball over, had a lot more possessions than their opponent, and got a lot of easy jumpshots. In other words, it’s entirely irrelevant whether the team is uptempo or slow-paced — how the team uses individual possessions determines how good the offense is. So no, Nash wouldn’t trade his uptempo style in, just as Billups wouldn’t trade the slow-paced style of the Pistons when he played there.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
btw… no need to take it personal. We just don’t agree. Personally, I think you are wrong and you think i’m wrong.
First, the Lakers fall into that category (top ten in pace the last few years), so you’re wrong there.Based on what? Your opinion? So guess your word is the law?
You are well versed in your “style of play” but how many rings did
all that equate to. We are all very impressed with your knowledge but yet none of that finalized into rings so it doesn’t matter? Uptempo is one thing but only if it equates to succees. And if that doesn’t mean titles then what does it matter?
"Michael Jordan once said the quality Bryant possessed that reminded him most of himself was the desire to distance himself from contemporaries."
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Dec 30, 2009 11:49 PM PST up reply actions
Um, stats
Lakers’ pace stats for the past few years (relative to the league):
‘06-’07 - 8th‘08
’07- 6th’09
’08- 5th’10 — 6th
’09
Go to basketball-reference.com if you’re so concerned about references. So, basically, the Lakers are an uptempo team. They might not look that way because they run a structured offense, but they use hell of a lot more possessions than your average team.
And in any case, you basically didn’t address my argument at all. It’s not about titles. That’s irrelevant. It’s how being uptempo relates to a good offense, and you basically threw out a few non sequiturs in response.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
*sigh* damn the formatting
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
lol
what does “non sequiturs” mean?
"Michael Jordan once said the quality Bryant possessed that reminded him most of himself was the desire to distance himself from contemporaries."
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Dec 31, 2009 12:03 AM PST up reply actions
Drawing an argument away by pointing to an irrelevant item and basically not addressing the argument itself
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non_sequitur
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
Ben R
Don’t take this personal but you are a numbers guy. Honeslty, you will do good in a poker game or something that deals with “odds”. I think you will be a good person to have on my side in a debate. But when it comes to the actual game of playing ball on the court that is a different game all together. I like your passion though.
"Michael Jordan once said the quality Bryant possessed that reminded him most of himself was the desire to distance himself from contemporaries."
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Dec 31, 2009 12:01 AM PST up reply actions
Except it's not really numbers in this case
Your statement was simply wrong. The rather glaring failure of the Porter-era Suns should bear that out, irrespective of stats.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
The Lakers definitely made a concerted effort to run the offense. The execution was a sight to see.
Gasol got his touches and abused the Warriors frontline all night.
What I thought was interesting is the play of the bench. Vujacic, Brown, and Farmar played well. They actually made an effort to run the offense through Gasol. Good times. Vujacic looks like he found his stroke and a bit of confidence. Farmar was on the court during the endgame instead of Fisher. That was the right move.
For a while there it was like the twilight zone or the bermuda triangle
with no game thread in sight :P
hope everything is well, CA Clark!
Analysis:
The Lakers gave Purple and Gold for Life a scare lol he almost needed to switch to Red Blue and White for Life, but the Lakers pulled through behind a monster night from Kobe, who wouldn’t have any of this Clipper fan nonsense, and saved PGFL from eternal agony in Clipperland. The end. Oh and Pau, LO, Shannon and Jordie finally smelled the coffee and woke up.
Lakers 2009 Road to Redemption: TREVOR, DEREK, LAMAR, PAU & KOBE.
Play the game of which Lakers reminds you of: TA - TI, Shannon Brown - Chris Brown, Pau Gasol - Jesus, Machine - Luis Scola/Russell Brand, PJ with mustache and beard - Colonel Sanders.
by PeanutButterSpread on Dec 30, 2009 1:13 PM PST reply actions
lol
funny stuff. That would have been crazy.
"Michael Jordan once said the quality Bryant possessed that reminded him most of himself was the desire to distance himself from contemporaries."
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Dec 30, 2009 6:08 PM PST up reply actions
The greatest Vladimir Radmanovic moment as a laker:
game 2 of the 08 finals when he travelled to Michigan on this dunk to cut the deficit to 4.
lakers of course lost that game.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfh2Wjq4WJs
"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."

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