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Back-to-Back Preview: Suns and Warriors

It's time for the Los Angeles Lakers to get their cardio on. Tonight and tomorrow they play a back-to-back set against two of the runningest, gunningest teams in the West. First up are our old friends the Phoenix Suns. You might remember them from such beatdowns as the two times the Lakers have already played them this year. Tomorrow night come the Golden State Warriors, who stand one Vinny Del Negro firing away from being able to say they have the worst coach in the NBA.

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With consecutive track meets on the schedule, you'd hope the Lakers would be at full strength. Such is not the case. Ron Artest remains iffy to play tonight as he recovers from his Christmas Day stair-climbing fail. Kobe Bryant's injuries I've frankly lost track of at this point. He, Pau Gasol and Lamar Odom all logged at least 50 minutes of court time in Sacramento on Sunday and could have draggy legs as a result. That's the bad news.

The good news is, the Suns give no indication of being at all competitive with the Lakers, and the Warriors blow. A Two-Love set, and further recuperation from the Cleveland fiasco, are reasonable objectives. A loss in either game, however, will chip away a little bit more at the Lakers' championship bona fides.

Catching Up With the Suns

For the first month-and-a-half of the season, Phoenix was invincible at home. Then the Cavaliers arrived on December 21st and made the Suns vincible. The Cavs blew Phoenix out by 18 - Laker fans can empathize - and the Oklahoma City Thunder followed that up by stealing a win on the 23rd. US Airways Center isn't quite the impregnable redoubt it once seemed.

This will be the first time the Lake Show has played in Phoenix, the first two meetings having gone down at Staples. The Lakers prevailed on November 12th by 19 points and on December 6th by 20. Neither contest was close. The Suns seem to bring out the best in the snarling Laker D, which held the NBA's best offense to less than a point per possession in both games. Kobe has scored with ease, and the Laker bigs have operated comfortably against their defensively impaired Phoenix counterparts.

Since the Suns last visited LA, their already shaky D has actually become worse. Coming into the December 6th game at Staples, Phoenix had a defensive rating of 106.9, which ranked 23rd in the league. That figure is now 110.8, down to 27th. The Suns don't force turnovers, they don't control the defensive glass, and they allow opponents to make almost 37% of their threes. It's pretty amazing they're 19-12 with a defense this skanky.

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The Lakers, as regular SS&R readers know, haven't been world-rocking studs on offense this year. Their per-possession scoring numbers are still just middle of the pack thanks to some gruesome outside shooting and the deepening mystery of Andrew Bynum. Phoenix presents a nice, soft target to help remedy things.

The Suns can do a bit of scoring themselves, of course. They remain the NBA's best in offensive rating and, except for the one-off collapse against Cleveland, regularly post PPPs better than 1.10. Steve Nash, with his 65% True Shooting, is phenomenal, Amare Stoudamire seems to be rounding into something like All-Star form, and Leandro Barbosa has returned after missing 12 games to give the bench an extra kick. Many of those jumpers that bounced off the Staples rims will fall for the Suns in their own crib.

It would be nice to have Artest around to help slow this attack. Even without him, though, the Lakers have more than enough inside beef and outside Kobe to get the win. If the Suns want to maintain any illusion of being more to the Lakers than an in-conference punching bag, they need the win tonight.

Catching Up With the Warriors

Golden State is an outright disaster, a grotesque waste of talent and fan loyalty. They have some decent pieces, but head "coach" Don Nelson appears intent on mismanaging them in every conceivable way. Consider: Anthony Randolph is the best talent on the team, and he plays less than Vladimir Radmanovic. Yes, that Vladimir Radmanovic.

The Dubs' operating ethos is to disguise incompetence with sheer volume. They average more than 101 possessions per game, almost 5% more than the next-most-frenetic team. Don't think that makes them any good at offense, though. Their offensive rating is 105.4, 19th in the NBA. They turn the ball over with eagerness - here's looking at you, Monta Ellis - and they're flabbergastingly bad on the offensive boards. The Warriors rebound only a fifth of their own misses, which is over 10% worse than the team in 29th place.

Golden State has a couple of talented outside shooters in Stephen Curry and Anthon Morrow. Unlike fellow up-tempo practitioners Phoenix and New York, however, they don't take a lot of threes. The offense is mostly Ellis and Corey Maggette going to the rim and working the midrange. It's not terribly difficult to stop.

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Dubious though its merits may be, the Golden State offense looks fantastic next to its defense. Allowing over 1.10 points per possession, the Warriors' D is down there near the Suns among units that regularly get their faces caved in. They're the worst in the NBA in several key defensive categories, including Effective Field-Goal Percentage, True Shooting Percentage and defensive rebounding. Otherwise they rock.

Honestly, the Dubs are just a few ticks up from the Timberwolves and Nets in the NBA feudal system. When they faced the Lakers on November 28th, they were at home and still lost to 33. Every Lakers starter reached double figures.

I should also mention that they have to play the Celtics tonight before flying to L.A.

Tuesday embodies the best circumstances the Lakers could hope for on the tail end of a back-to-back: at home against a horrible opponent that played an elite team the night before. Even if half the Lakers stay in Phoenix to golf, this is likely to be a straightforward, check-the-box win. I think we deserve it, don't you?

Lakers

Suns

Warriors

RECORD

24-5

19-12

8-21

NET POINTS PER GAME

+7.7 (3)

+3.4 (9)

-5.1 (27)

PACE

94.5 (7)

95.8 (4)

101.4 (1)

OFFENSIVE RATING

107.3 (15)

114.4 (1)

105.4 (19)

Turnover Rate (Off.)

13.0% (8)

14.3% (20)

14.7% (28)

FTA/FGA (Off.)

0.28 (23)

0.30 (20)

0.31 (16)

Free-Throw %

76.4 (13)

74.6 (19)

78.3 (5)

Effective FG% (Off.)

49.5 (16)

55.4 (1)

51.0 (9)

True Shooting% (Off.)

53.6 (18)

58.8 (1)

55.5 (8)

Off Rebounding Rate

27.7% (11)

26.8% (15)

20.3% (30)

DEFENSIVE RATING

99.3 (2)

110.8 (27)

110.4 (26)

Turnover Rate (Def.)

14.4% (9)

12.3% (27)

15.9% (2)

FTA/FGA (Def.)

0.26 (2)

0.29 (9)

0.33 (24)

Effective FG% (Def.)

45.8 (1)

49.9 (20)

53.0 (30)

True Shooting% (Def.)

49.9 (1)

53.9 (17)

57.2 (30)

Def Rebounding Rate

72.5%

69.5% (29)

68.9% (30)

All statistical terms defined here. Parentheses indicate league rankings. Numbers are courtesy of Basketball Reference and HoopData and, except for record and net points per game, are through Saturday night's action.

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im gonna say the suns win this one tonight. lakers haven’t been playing well the last 2 games. plus, we’ve dominated the suns the last few times we’ve played them; i think they return the favor tonight…

by chaucer on Dec 28, 2009 10:24 AM PST reply actions  

i think kobe needs to do a better job of getting the guys involved as well. he’s taking a lot of shots lately. it’s time he get bynum involved and give him confidence.

by chaucer on Dec 28, 2009 10:26 AM PST reply actions  

and maybe the lakers need to bring rodman in as a personal coach to bynum, for he can’t rebound for shit.

by chaucer on Dec 28, 2009 10:27 AM PST reply actions  

Anyone know what Rodman's up to these days?

Shaquille O'Neal: "Tell him Shaq doesn’t respond to juvenile delinquents without a college degree. Tell him to get his degree, and we can talk. In the meantime, he should call me Dr. Shaq because I’m working on my PhD." (Referring to 17-year-old rookie Andrew Bynum, who compared himself to Shaq…except that he can make free throws.)
(courtesy of www.shaqquotes.com)

by KobeisGod on Dec 28, 2009 11:08 AM PST up reply actions  

wearing wedding dresses?

"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."

by shaqfor3 on Dec 28, 2009 11:27 AM PST up reply actions  

id give him a starting spot over bynum rite now

im still steaming about fridays loss, havent watched a laker game yet maybe today i will catch it……maybe

" I'm a human, not a sandwich"

by true_lakerfan on Dec 28, 2009 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Just to further illustrate what Rodman is up to:

The Lakers "Too big, too strong, too long, too good."

by olf on Dec 28, 2009 12:35 PM PST up reply actions  

lol this is hilarious….this isn’t recent is it?

by chaucer on Dec 28, 2009 12:57 PM PST up reply actions  

I think it came from the O C Register Blog. But I don’t remember why or when they put it up. Maybe Halloween?

The Lakers "Too big, too strong, too long, too good."

by olf on Dec 28, 2009 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

what a freak. i think he did say he was bisexual

by chaucer on Dec 28, 2009 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

ok i take it back, maybe not rodman

i forget how wierd he is

" I'm a human, not a sandwich"

by true_lakerfan on Dec 28, 2009 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

if being weird would make Bynum a better rebounder than by all means

be weird. Right now, I would take Shannon Brown at Center. He at least puts effort.

"Michael Jordan once said the quality Bryant possessed that reminded him most of himself was the desire to distance himself from contemporaries."

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Dec 28, 2009 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

not all of this is bynum’s fault. he has a fragile psyche and phil jackson is well aware of that. kobe is aware of that. as leaders, they need to get him the fuck involved. i am getting tired of seeing the poor guy struggle without anyone helping him. kobe needs to give him the ball and phil needs to draw some plays. kobe is showing too much damn favoritism to gasol. he has other guys on this team that need to be involved. if the mvp award really means nothing to you then cut back on the damn shots and be happy averaging 20 points a game while u get your teammates more shots.

by chaucer on Dec 28, 2009 5:45 PM PST up reply actions  

olf, you just had to scare me. lol

I scolled down and I had to shake my head, thats just ugly, Rodman needs to stop

There are basic Fundamentals that are needed to move forward in this game. Always keep your guard up at all times to avoid being caught in a trap. Overcome the fouls that will be commited against you REBOUND AND PRESS ON. ADJUST to the LimeLight: ALL-STAR PLAYERS ARE ALWAYS THE CENTER OF ATTENTION. Know what your role is and play your position. Find a game plan and execute it. REMEMBER YOU ONLY GET OUT OF THE GAME WHAT YOU PUT INTO IT.

by BrittneyM on Dec 28, 2009 3:49 PM PST up reply actions  

does anyone buy kobe claiming that he does not care about winning the mvp award?

by chaucer on Dec 28, 2009 12:58 PM PST reply actions  

before maybe not

But now I do. He can get all the MVP’s in the world but unless it’s the Finals MVP I don’t think he cares about it. Doesn’t mean he won’t cherish it if he gets it.

"Michael Jordan once said the quality Bryant possessed that reminded him most of himself was the desire to distance himself from contemporaries."

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Dec 28, 2009 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

His team has the best record, which is more important than stats

but right now he’s 1/10th of a point behind melo, which probably isn’t good for the Lakers
He also was first in nba.com’s mvp race for three weeks but moved down to #2 because the cavs beat us. But I think Kobe deserves it this year.

Shaquille O'Neal: "Tell him Shaq doesn’t respond to juvenile delinquents without a college degree. Tell him to get his degree, and we can talk. In the meantime, he should call me Dr. Shaq because I’m working on my PhD." (Referring to 17-year-old rookie Andrew Bynum, who compared himself to Shaq…except that he can make free throws.)
(courtesy of www.shaqquotes.com)

by KobeisGod on Dec 28, 2009 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

he deserves it this year thus far

by chaucer on Dec 28, 2009 12:58 PM PST reply actions  

hahaha at Gil Keloids Rec post

all the comments got rec’d hahahaha

"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."

by shaqfor3 on Dec 28, 2009 1:24 PM PST reply actions  

It's time to nut up or shut up

The Rules to Surviving a Laker Back-to-Back Road Trip:

1. Cardio
2. Double Tap
3. Beware of Bathrooms
4. Wear Seatbelts
6. Cast Iron Skillet
7. Travel Light
12. Bounty paper towels
15. Bowling Ball
17. Be a hero
18. Limber Up
22. When in doubt, know your way out
29. The Buddy System
31. Check the back seat
32. Enjoy the little things
33. Swiss Army knife

Lakers 2009 Road to Redemption: TREVOR, DEREK, LAMAR, PAU & KOBE.
Play the game of which Lakers reminds you of: TA - TI, Shannon Brown - Chris Brown, Pau Gasol - Jesus, Machine - Luis Scola/Russell Brand, PJ with mustache and beard - Colonel Sanders.

by PeanutButterSpread on Dec 28, 2009 1:27 PM PST reply actions  

another point
dont eat room service pizza or burgers

"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."

by shaqfor3 on Dec 28, 2009 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

don't trip over a box at night

Lakers 2009 Road to Redemption: TREVOR, DEREK, LAMAR, PAU & KOBE.
Play the game of which Lakers reminds you of: TA - TI, Shannon Brown - Chris Brown, Pau Gasol - Jesus, Machine - Luis Scola/Russell Brand, PJ with mustache and beard - Colonel Sanders.

by PeanutButterSpread on Dec 28, 2009 4:12 PM PST up reply actions  

i have to say

this might be a trap game like in Utah
lakers better be careful

"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."

by shaqfor3 on Dec 28, 2009 1:28 PM PST reply actions  

teams that the Lakers should be wary of now, tommorow and for the rest of their existence

Regardless of talent or standings but just simply because they love to hate the Lakers are:

Utah
Denver
Boston
Portland
Phoenix
Sacramento
Dallas
Spurs

These teams when playing the Lakers will play especially hard no matter what. Just based on sports-hate and envy or just for braggin rights.

"Michael Jordan once said the quality Bryant possessed that reminded him most of himself was the desire to distance himself from contemporaries."

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Dec 28, 2009 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

dont forget houston

despite no tmac or yao
they have always given us fits…

"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."

by shaqfor3 on Dec 28, 2009 3:48 PM PST up reply actions  

utah wasn't a "trap" game.

it wasn’t hard to imagine the loss, especially given the circumstances.

phoenix could be a trap since we creamed them twice, but hopefully the x-mas loss and the 2OT will show the lakers they need more focus

by Nostance on Dec 28, 2009 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m not expecting much tonight since Artest is still out and so is Walton. It leaves us kinda thin at the 3. Plus Kobe’s banged up and we’ve been playing like CRAP even before Christmas day.

The Lakers "Too big, too strong, too long, too good."

by olf on Dec 28, 2009 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

This should be two exciting two games

Suns and Warriors play no D so Lakers should let everyone loose and everyone should get playing time, I say that because I think Kobe should rest so starters should get a big lead then sit for these two games, thats what I’m hoping.

There are basic Fundamentals that are needed to move forward in this game. Always keep your guard up at all times to avoid being caught in a trap. Overcome the fouls that will be commited against you REBOUND AND PRESS ON. ADJUST to the LimeLight: ALL-STAR PLAYERS ARE ALWAYS THE CENTER OF ATTENTION. Know what your role is and play your position. Find a game plan and execute it. REMEMBER YOU ONLY GET OUT OF THE GAME WHAT YOU PUT INTO IT.

by BrittneyM on Dec 28, 2009 3:28 PM PST reply actions  

that's what i hope for every game :)

but because of their pace, a 20 point lead with the suns/warriors is actually only a 10 point lead in disguise. unless our bench is unusually productive, i doubt kobe & co will be getting surplus rest.

by Nostance on Dec 28, 2009 3:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I can't hope alittle bit? LOL

Kobe needs a break, let Gasol run the team for three quarters…J/K

There are basic Fundamentals that are needed to move forward in this game. Always keep your guard up at all times to avoid being caught in a trap. Overcome the fouls that will be commited against you REBOUND AND PRESS ON. ADJUST to the LimeLight: ALL-STAR PLAYERS ARE ALWAYS THE CENTER OF ATTENTION. Know what your role is and play your position. Find a game plan and execute it. REMEMBER YOU ONLY GET OUT OF THE GAME WHAT YOU PUT INTO IT.

by BrittneyM on Dec 28, 2009 3:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Hope? No, NEVER! :p

but on a serious note, i don’t know if extended minutes for pau is good idea either. we don’t want another hammy incident…

by Nostance on Dec 28, 2009 3:59 PM PST up reply actions  

point taken

we need Pau also.

There are basic Fundamentals that are needed to move forward in this game. Always keep your guard up at all times to avoid being caught in a trap. Overcome the fouls that will be commited against you REBOUND AND PRESS ON. ADJUST to the LimeLight: ALL-STAR PLAYERS ARE ALWAYS THE CENTER OF ATTENTION. Know what your role is and play your position. Find a game plan and execute it. REMEMBER YOU ONLY GET OUT OF THE GAME WHAT YOU PUT INTO IT.

by BrittneyM on Dec 28, 2009 4:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Eh, Phoenix's defense is still too poor

For this not be a game in the Lakers’ favor. There’s no check for Kobe, Pau will have a field day with Phoenix’s interior defense, and if there’s ever a game for Bynum to break out of his funk, it will be today or tomorrow. At this point, the Lakers have the playbook on how to handle Phoenix down fairly well. Granted, Phoenix’s offense could go nuts and we could fizzle at the offensive end, but I’d wager the Lakers come out fine.

As far as Golden State is concerned, take the Phoenix game and severely aggravate the interior defense problems for Golden State. Roughly same scenario applies.

Big thing I want to see if whether some of the bench can come through with a bit of production in line with Brown’s performance against Sacramento. No Artest only puts more of an impetus on them to perform well.

To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.

by Ben R on Dec 28, 2009 3:36 PM PST reply actions  

Exactly

There are basic Fundamentals that are needed to move forward in this game. Always keep your guard up at all times to avoid being caught in a trap. Overcome the fouls that will be commited against you REBOUND AND PRESS ON. ADJUST to the LimeLight: ALL-STAR PLAYERS ARE ALWAYS THE CENTER OF ATTENTION. Know what your role is and play your position. Find a game plan and execute it. REMEMBER YOU ONLY GET OUT OF THE GAME WHAT YOU PUT INTO IT.

by BrittneyM on Dec 28, 2009 3:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I think they Lakers know what's being bantered around right now

I believe they’ll come out more focused and ready for the Suns.

by 99bc99 on Dec 28, 2009 4:54 PM PST reply actions  

lovin the throwback post-up CWebb

Excited to see how Fish plays Nash tonight… he was getting worked by the Cavs.

Lakers got this!

by LADubbz45 on Dec 28, 2009 5:23 PM PST reply actions  

Ah, Suns win.

I like the Lakers but I’m glad my Suns finally took it to them.

by Supernova Baller on Dec 28, 2009 9:21 PM PST reply actions  

good game from your team

Lakers couldn’t compete this time

by altree on Dec 28, 2009 11:46 PM PST up reply actions  

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