Back-to-Back Preview: Suns and Warriors
It's time for the Los Angeles Lakers to get their cardio on. Tonight and tomorrow they play a back-to-back set against two of the runningest, gunningest teams in the West. First up are our old friends the Phoenix Suns. You might remember them from such beatdowns as the two times the Lakers have already played them this year. Tomorrow night come the Golden State Warriors, who stand one Vinny Del Negro firing away from being able to say they have the worst coach in the NBA.
With consecutive track meets on the schedule, you'd hope the Lakers would be at full strength. Such is not the case. Ron Artest remains iffy to play tonight as he recovers from his Christmas Day stair-climbing fail. Kobe Bryant's injuries I've frankly lost track of at this point. He, Pau Gasol and Lamar Odom all logged at least 50 minutes of court time in Sacramento on Sunday and could have draggy legs as a result. That's the bad news.
The good news is, the Suns give no indication of being at all competitive with the Lakers, and the Warriors blow. A Two-Love set, and further recuperation from the Cleveland fiasco, are reasonable objectives. A loss in either game, however, will chip away a little bit more at the Lakers' championship bona fides.
Catching Up With the Suns
For the first month-and-a-half of the season, Phoenix was invincible at home. Then the Cavaliers arrived on December 21st and made the Suns vincible. The Cavs blew Phoenix out by 18 - Laker fans can empathize - and the Oklahoma City Thunder followed that up by stealing a win on the 23rd. US Airways Center isn't quite the impregnable redoubt it once seemed.
This will be the first time the Lake Show has played in Phoenix, the first two meetings having gone down at Staples. The Lakers prevailed on November 12th by 19 points and on December 6th by 20. Neither contest was close. The Suns seem to bring out the best in the snarling Laker D, which held the NBA's best offense to less than a point per possession in both games. Kobe has scored with ease, and the Laker bigs have operated comfortably against their defensively impaired Phoenix counterparts.
Since the Suns last visited LA, their already shaky D has actually become worse. Coming into the December 6th game at Staples, Phoenix had a defensive rating of 106.9, which ranked 23rd in the league. That figure is now 110.8, down to 27th. The Suns don't force turnovers, they don't control the defensive glass, and they allow opponents to make almost 37% of their threes. It's pretty amazing they're 19-12 with a defense this skanky.
The Lakers, as regular SS&R readers know, haven't been world-rocking studs on offense this year. Their per-possession scoring numbers are still just middle of the pack thanks to some gruesome outside shooting and the deepening mystery of Andrew Bynum. Phoenix presents a nice, soft target to help remedy things.
The Suns can do a bit of scoring themselves, of course. They remain the NBA's best in offensive rating and, except for the one-off collapse against Cleveland, regularly post PPPs better than 1.10. Steve Nash, with his 65% True Shooting, is phenomenal, Amare Stoudamire seems to be rounding into something like All-Star form, and Leandro Barbosa has returned after missing 12 games to give the bench an extra kick. Many of those jumpers that bounced off the Staples rims will fall for the Suns in their own crib.
It would be nice to have Artest around to help slow this attack. Even without him, though, the Lakers have more than enough inside beef and outside Kobe to get the win. If the Suns want to maintain any illusion of being more to the Lakers than an in-conference punching bag, they need the win tonight.
Catching Up With the Warriors
Golden State is an outright disaster, a grotesque waste of talent and fan loyalty. They have some decent pieces, but head "coach" Don Nelson appears intent on mismanaging them in every conceivable way. Consider: Anthony Randolph is the best talent on the team, and he plays less than Vladimir Radmanovic. Yes, that Vladimir Radmanovic.
The Dubs' operating ethos is to disguise incompetence with sheer volume. They average more than 101 possessions per game, almost 5% more than the next-most-frenetic team. Don't think that makes them any good at offense, though. Their offensive rating is 105.4, 19th in the NBA. They turn the ball over with eagerness - here's looking at you, Monta Ellis - and they're flabbergastingly bad on the offensive boards. The Warriors rebound only a fifth of their own misses, which is over 10% worse than the team in 29th place.
Golden State has a couple of talented outside shooters in Stephen Curry and Anthon Morrow. Unlike fellow up-tempo practitioners Phoenix and New York, however, they don't take a lot of threes. The offense is mostly Ellis and Corey Maggette going to the rim and working the midrange. It's not terribly difficult to stop.
Dubious though its merits may be, the Golden State offense looks fantastic next to its defense. Allowing over 1.10 points per possession, the Warriors' D is down there near the Suns among units that regularly get their faces caved in. They're the worst in the NBA in several key defensive categories, including Effective Field-Goal Percentage, True Shooting Percentage and defensive rebounding. Otherwise they rock.
Honestly, the Dubs are just a few ticks up from the Timberwolves and Nets in the NBA feudal system. When they faced the Lakers on November 28th, they were at home and still lost to 33. Every Lakers starter reached double figures.
I should also mention that they have to play the Celtics tonight before flying to L.A.
Tuesday embodies the best circumstances the Lakers could hope for on the tail end of a back-to-back: at home against a horrible opponent that played an elite team the night before. Even if half the Lakers stay in Phoenix to golf, this is likely to be a straightforward, check-the-box win. I think we deserve it, don't you?
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Lakers |
Suns |
Warriors |
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RECORD |
24-5 |
19-12 |
8-21 |
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NET POINTS PER GAME |
+7.7 (3) |
+3.4 (9) |
-5.1 (27) |
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PACE |
94.5 (7) |
95.8 (4) |
101.4 (1) |
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OFFENSIVE RATING |
107.3 (15) |
114.4 (1) |
105.4 (19) |
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Turnover Rate (Off.) |
13.0% (8) |
14.3% (20) |
14.7% (28) |
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FTA/FGA (Off.) |
0.28 (23) |
0.30 (20) |
0.31 (16) |
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Free-Throw % |
76.4 (13) |
74.6 (19) |
78.3 (5) |
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Effective FG% (Off.) |
49.5 (16) |
55.4 (1) |
51.0 (9) |
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True Shooting% (Off.) |
53.6 (18) |
58.8 (1) |
55.5 (8) |
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Off Rebounding Rate |
27.7% (11) |
26.8% (15) |
20.3% (30) |
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DEFENSIVE RATING |
99.3 (2) |
110.8 (27) |
110.4 (26) |
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Turnover Rate (Def.) |
14.4% (9) |
12.3% (27) |
15.9% (2) |
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FTA/FGA (Def.) |
0.26 (2) |
0.29 (9) |
0.33 (24) |
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Effective FG% (Def.) |
45.8 (1) |
49.9 (20) |
53.0 (30) |
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True Shooting% (Def.) |
49.9 (1) |
53.9 (17) |
57.2 (30) |
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Def Rebounding Rate |
72.5% |
69.5% (29) |
68.9% (30) |
All statistical terms defined here. Parentheses indicate league rankings. Numbers are courtesy of Basketball Reference and HoopData and, except for record and net points per game, are through Saturday night's action.
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and maybe the lakers need to bring rodman in as a personal coach to bynum, for he can’t rebound for shit.
Anyone know what Rodman's up to these days?
Shaquille O'Neal: "Tell him Shaq doesn’t respond to juvenile delinquents without a college degree. Tell him to get his degree, and we can talk. In the meantime, he should call me Dr. Shaq because I’m working on my PhD." (Referring to 17-year-old rookie Andrew Bynum, who compared himself to Shaq…except that he can make free throws.)
(courtesy of www.shaqquotes.com)
id give him a starting spot over bynum rite now
im still steaming about fridays loss, havent watched a laker game yet maybe today i will catch it……maybe
" I'm a human, not a sandwich"
by true_lakerfan on Dec 28, 2009 12:24 PM PST up reply actions
Just to further illustrate what Rodman is up to:

The Lakers "Too big, too strong, too long, too good."
ok i take it back, maybe not rodman
i forget how wierd he is
" I'm a human, not a sandwich"
by true_lakerfan on Dec 28, 2009 1:03 PM PST up reply actions
if being weird would make Bynum a better rebounder than by all means
be weird. Right now, I would take Shannon Brown at Center. He at least puts effort.
"Michael Jordan once said the quality Bryant possessed that reminded him most of himself was the desire to distance himself from contemporaries."
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Dec 28, 2009 1:07 PM PST up reply actions
ok ok, im back on the wagon...
" I'm a human, not a sandwich"
by true_lakerfan on Dec 28, 2009 3:17 PM PST up reply actions
not all of this is bynum’s fault. he has a fragile psyche and phil jackson is well aware of that. kobe is aware of that. as leaders, they need to get him the fuck involved. i am getting tired of seeing the poor guy struggle without anyone helping him. kobe needs to give him the ball and phil needs to draw some plays. kobe is showing too much damn favoritism to gasol. he has other guys on this team that need to be involved. if the mvp award really means nothing to you then cut back on the damn shots and be happy averaging 20 points a game while u get your teammates more shots.
his strange on and off the court behavior is why he will never get into the HOF.
"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."
olf, you just had to scare me. lol
I scolled down and I had to shake my head, thats just ugly, Rodman needs to stop
There are basic Fundamentals that are needed to move forward in this game. Always keep your guard up at all times to avoid being caught in a trap. Overcome the fouls that will be commited against you REBOUND AND PRESS ON. ADJUST to the LimeLight: ALL-STAR PLAYERS ARE ALWAYS THE CENTER OF ATTENTION. Know what your role is and play your position. Find a game plan and execute it. REMEMBER YOU ONLY GET OUT OF THE GAME WHAT YOU PUT INTO IT.
before maybe not
But now I do. He can get all the MVP’s in the world but unless it’s the Finals MVP I don’t think he cares about it. Doesn’t mean he won’t cherish it if he gets it.
"Michael Jordan once said the quality Bryant possessed that reminded him most of himself was the desire to distance himself from contemporaries."
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Dec 28, 2009 1:08 PM PST up reply actions
His team has the best record, which is more important than stats
but right now he’s 1/10th of a point behind melo, which probably isn’t good for the Lakers
He also was first in nba.com’s mvp race for three weeks but moved down to #2 because the cavs beat us. But I think Kobe deserves it this year.
Shaquille O'Neal: "Tell him Shaq doesn’t respond to juvenile delinquents without a college degree. Tell him to get his degree, and we can talk. In the meantime, he should call me Dr. Shaq because I’m working on my PhD." (Referring to 17-year-old rookie Andrew Bynum, who compared himself to Shaq…except that he can make free throws.)
(courtesy of www.shaqquotes.com)
hahaha at Gil Keloids Rec post
all the comments got rec’d hahahaha
"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."
It's time to nut up or shut up
The Rules to Surviving a Laker Back-to-Back Road Trip:
1. Cardio
2. Double Tap
3. Beware of Bathrooms
4. Wear Seatbelts
6. Cast Iron Skillet
7. Travel Light
12. Bounty paper towels
15. Bowling Ball
17. Be a hero
18. Limber Up
22. When in doubt, know your way out
29. The Buddy System
31. Check the back seat
32. Enjoy the little things
33. Swiss Army knife
Lakers 2009 Road to Redemption: TREVOR, DEREK, LAMAR, PAU & KOBE.
Play the game of which Lakers reminds you of: TA - TI, Shannon Brown - Chris Brown, Pau Gasol - Jesus, Machine - Luis Scola/Russell Brand, PJ with mustache and beard - Colonel Sanders.
by PeanutButterSpread on Dec 28, 2009 1:27 PM PST reply actions
another point
dont eat room service pizza or burgers
"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."
don't trip over a box at night
Lakers 2009 Road to Redemption: TREVOR, DEREK, LAMAR, PAU & KOBE.
Play the game of which Lakers reminds you of: TA - TI, Shannon Brown - Chris Brown, Pau Gasol - Jesus, Machine - Luis Scola/Russell Brand, PJ with mustache and beard - Colonel Sanders.
by PeanutButterSpread on Dec 28, 2009 4:12 PM PST up reply actions
i have to say
this might be a trap game like in Utah
lakers better be careful
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"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."
teams that the Lakers should be wary of now, tommorow and for the rest of their existence
Regardless of talent or standings but just simply because they love to hate the Lakers are:
Utah
Denver
Boston
Portland
Phoenix
Sacramento
Dallas
Spurs
These teams when playing the Lakers will play especially hard no matter what. Just based on sports-hate and envy or just for braggin rights.
"Michael Jordan once said the quality Bryant possessed that reminded him most of himself was the desire to distance himself from contemporaries."
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Dec 28, 2009 2:46 PM PST up reply actions
dont forget houston
despite no tmac or yao
they have always given us fits…
"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."
utah wasn't a "trap" game.
it wasn’t hard to imagine the loss, especially given the circumstances.
phoenix could be a trap since we creamed them twice, but hopefully the x-mas loss and the 2OT will show the lakers they need more focus
This should be two exciting two games
Suns and Warriors play no D so Lakers should let everyone loose and everyone should get playing time, I say that because I think Kobe should rest so starters should get a big lead then sit for these two games, thats what I’m hoping.
There are basic Fundamentals that are needed to move forward in this game. Always keep your guard up at all times to avoid being caught in a trap. Overcome the fouls that will be commited against you REBOUND AND PRESS ON. ADJUST to the LimeLight: ALL-STAR PLAYERS ARE ALWAYS THE CENTER OF ATTENTION. Know what your role is and play your position. Find a game plan and execute it. REMEMBER YOU ONLY GET OUT OF THE GAME WHAT YOU PUT INTO IT.
that's what i hope for every game :)
but because of their pace, a 20 point lead with the suns/warriors is actually only a 10 point lead in disguise. unless our bench is unusually productive, i doubt kobe & co will be getting surplus rest.
I can't hope alittle bit? LOL
Kobe needs a break, let Gasol run the team for three quarters…J/K
There are basic Fundamentals that are needed to move forward in this game. Always keep your guard up at all times to avoid being caught in a trap. Overcome the fouls that will be commited against you REBOUND AND PRESS ON. ADJUST to the LimeLight: ALL-STAR PLAYERS ARE ALWAYS THE CENTER OF ATTENTION. Know what your role is and play your position. Find a game plan and execute it. REMEMBER YOU ONLY GET OUT OF THE GAME WHAT YOU PUT INTO IT.
Hope? No, NEVER! :p
but on a serious note, i don’t know if extended minutes for pau is good idea either. we don’t want another hammy incident…
point taken
we need Pau also.
There are basic Fundamentals that are needed to move forward in this game. Always keep your guard up at all times to avoid being caught in a trap. Overcome the fouls that will be commited against you REBOUND AND PRESS ON. ADJUST to the LimeLight: ALL-STAR PLAYERS ARE ALWAYS THE CENTER OF ATTENTION. Know what your role is and play your position. Find a game plan and execute it. REMEMBER YOU ONLY GET OUT OF THE GAME WHAT YOU PUT INTO IT.
Eh, Phoenix's defense is still too poor
For this not be a game in the Lakers’ favor. There’s no check for Kobe, Pau will have a field day with Phoenix’s interior defense, and if there’s ever a game for Bynum to break out of his funk, it will be today or tomorrow. At this point, the Lakers have the playbook on how to handle Phoenix down fairly well. Granted, Phoenix’s offense could go nuts and we could fizzle at the offensive end, but I’d wager the Lakers come out fine.
As far as Golden State is concerned, take the Phoenix game and severely aggravate the interior defense problems for Golden State. Roughly same scenario applies.
Big thing I want to see if whether some of the bench can come through with a bit of production in line with Brown’s performance against Sacramento. No Artest only puts more of an impetus on them to perform well.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
the warriors are like the suns, only even smaller, poorly coached, and w/o steve nash
by Nostance on Dec 28, 2009 3:39 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Exactly
There are basic Fundamentals that are needed to move forward in this game. Always keep your guard up at all times to avoid being caught in a trap. Overcome the fouls that will be commited against you REBOUND AND PRESS ON. ADJUST to the LimeLight: ALL-STAR PLAYERS ARE ALWAYS THE CENTER OF ATTENTION. Know what your role is and play your position. Find a game plan and execute it. REMEMBER YOU ONLY GET OUT OF THE GAME WHAT YOU PUT INTO IT.
I think they Lakers know what's being bantered around right now
I believe they’ll come out more focused and ready for the Suns.
lovin the throwback post-up CWebb
Excited to see how Fish plays Nash tonight… he was getting worked by the Cavs.
Lakers got this!
Ah, Suns win.
I like the Lakers but I’m glad my Suns finally took it to them.
by Supernova Baller on Dec 28, 2009 9:21 PM PST reply actions

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