Lakers defense is scary, but will the offense come back around?
The Lakers have now surpassed last year's championship squad in terms of wins at this point of the season. They are 16-1 in their last 17 games, not so coincidentally corresponding with the return of Pau Gasol to the lineup. At times during this stretch, they have looked unbeatable. At other times, they've looked quite mortal. But, save for one excusable outing in Utah, the Lakers have not lost in quite a while.
The stunning development regarding this year's Lakers squad has been how cohesive and effective their defense is. Go into any one of SS&R's game threads, and you'll see hosts of comments about how bad Andrew Bynum's defense is, or how slow Derek Fisher is. And yet, the Lakers have the best defensive numbers in the league, and there isn't even a close 2nd.
Not including last night's game (because as of the time of this writing, the numbers haven't been updated), the Lakers are ranked first in the following defensive categories: Defensive rating, eFG%, TS%. They are also 2nd in defensive FT/FTA. So, they are allowing more than a full point less points per 100 possessions than anybody else, even the vaunted defense of the Boston Celtics. They are holding opposing teams to extremely poor shooting, with an opposing FG% and 3 pt FG% both a full tenth of a point lower than the next best team. And they are doing it all without fouling anybody. There's no telling for sure that early season results will bear out over an entire season, but people are taking notice. The Lakers currently look like an absolutely dominant defensive team.
A fair amount of the credit for this new-found defensive dominance is the addition of Ron Artest to the roster. Anybody claiming that Trevor Ariza was a better defender than Artest, kindly slap yourself across the face. Artest is still one of the premier defenders in the NBA, and his performance on that end of the court has been nothing short of spectacular for Los Angeles. Most impressive is his energy. He doesn't seem capable of not going all out all the time, and that energy has infected the Lakers. They don't always go 100% every single night, but they do seem to be bringing a consistently high level of effort on the defensive side of the ball.
But the Lakers defensive improvement goes beyond "Artest > Ariza". It also has to do with the fact that the Lakers now have a ridiculous number of defensive options. Ariza was a very good defender, but he played defense almost exactly like Kobe (in style, not in quality). He played passing lanes, he helped off of his man. But he was not a physical defender, because he is not a physical presence himself. Artest is the polar opposite of Ariza in defensive style. He sticks to his man like crazy glue. He doesn't play passing lanes, but instead gets most of his steals with cunning reaches and prods as his man has the ball, or in help situations. And he is the most physical perimeter defender in the NBA.
Last year, the Lakers had a great 1-2 combination of perimeter defense with Kobe and Ariza. But that combo was weak in the sense that there was a certain kind of player that both struggled to guard, the more physical SF. Guys like LeBron, Carmelo, PP didn't exactly have a field day against the Lakers, but stopping them was entirely due to team effort, not individual brilliance. Now, with Artest in the fold, no matter who you have on the perimeter, the Lakers have that covered. There is no player at the 2 or the 3 that can't be guarded well by either Bryant or Artest. I'm not saying Artest can shut down Melo or LeBron 1 v. 1, but he can certainly make their lives difficult, and that's all you can ask.
Lost somewhat in the Lakers defensive brilliance, their offense has definitely taken a step back. They went a bit without Pau Gasol, and they are integrating Ron Artest as well, but the offense hasn't improved considerably since Pau's return, and I think the struggle goes far beyond Artest. Ariza shot the ball better than Artest has, but not by a wide margin (Ariza's eFG was .511, Artest's is .498). Ariza did attack the rim more, and had better success at the free throw line than Artest has, but that can't explain all of the Lakers' offensive problems.
No, the Lakers issue is far easier to diagnose. They can't shoot. Across the board, the Lakers are struggling to put the ball in the basket, with one extremely notable exception, Kobe Bryant. Kobe is having his best shooting year ever, in large part because much more of his shots are being taken from 15 feet and in, but he's also shooting the worst from 3 pt range of his entire career. Pau Gasol is struggling with shots he normally makes, stuff close to the rim, Lamar Odom is shooting well below his career average. And the bench ... well, the bench shooting couldn't get much worse. As a team, the Lakers eFG is below 50%, and that will not get it done.
I don't want to get into the possibility of signing other players, or getting someone via trade, because it seems highly unlikely. The Lakers have the highest payroll in the league, and and there's no reason to expect them to increase it. Further, the Lakers list of tradable assets reads something like this: Andrew Bynum (not happening), Jordan Farmar (maybe), Adam Morrison's expiring contract. That's not much to work with. Don't count on any outside help.
So the question is whether or not the current group can bring it back around. And the rest of the league better hope the answer is no. Last year the Lakers won the championship with a great offense and good defense. This year, they have great defense and ok offense. If they put both sides together, nobody in the league, not even the Celtics, can touch them. IF.
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Anybody claiming that Trevor Ariza was a better defender than Artest, kindly slap yourself across the face.
LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
"You're gonna eat lightning, and you're gonna crap thunder!"
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Dec 23, 2009 10:07 AM PST reply actions
Shooting woes due to getting their flow (back)
I think the fact that we have a healthy Bynum, Pau, and Artest all playing together really disrupts the flow of the Laker’s offense. They have so many options, and lately it looks like they’ve been trying to force-feed Drew in order to get him “started”. I expect that other teams have such a better effective field goal % because they are putting their offense through 1 or 2 players, instead of 3-4.
As far as the three point shooting goes, the Lakers seem to be hoisting a lot of threes lately, from all over the court. The shots don’t seem to be coming from working the triangle, but from catch-and-shoot situations like you saw Farmar, Odom, and Brown chuck up last night. Derek is shooting pretty well from three-point-range, and he is usually getting fed the ball in the right spot. Same for Ron. Kobe will get his back,but the other players need to step up.
I’m not that concerned. Find the flow Lakers!
There is only so much practice time and at this point in the season I much prefer having them functioning well on defense and not so well on offense – rather than the other way around.
On offense they’ve been getting sloppy, can’t get the ball inside consistently, don’t execute the offense and are jacking up outside shots. All of that seems much easier to fix than if their defense sucked.
Also, if there hadn’t been so much snow on their road-trip I wouldn’t have been surprised if Kobe, Fish & the rest of the perimeter players would have logged extra shooting practice like they did during a shooting slump in 2008(?).
Long term, they’ll come round. Short term, I do remain worried about the Christmas Day game. But as Phil says, losses are definitely teachable moments.
The Lakers "Too big, too strong, too long, too good."
yup. our defense this year is stellar. prior to this column, i was thinking it had to be among the top in the league…we keep this up, we’ll have a historic championship season. on a different note, what is up with andrew? can he not play as efficiently with gasol in the line up? he put up good numbers with gasol out, but since his return drew’s numbers have been poor.
Interesting article by David Thorpe regarding the Kobe vs Lebron debate
I still dont agree with these people who say Lebron is better than Kobe. I will defend him to the end. Its such bullshit because back when Kobe was filling up the stat sheet in 04-07 when we had bad teams, people said well he doesnt have any rings as the leader of the team. Well, if that argument is applied to Kobe, then why not to Lebron?? He dont got no rings?? Remember, last year, people said the Cavs were basically a lock for the title and that Lebron finally had a championship cast around him, former All-Stars coming off the bench ect.. Well he couldnt even get to the Finals with that cast. And dont say that it was his teamates fault they lost. When we lost to Phoenix in the playoffs, it was clearly on his shitty teamates and not Kobe, but people still blamed Kobe. Its such bullshit. People will say anything to disrespect Kobe. Its one of the reasons why I think he’s still one of the most underrated players in the game today. People dont know how great he is. Its sad too, because I think he’s gonna be underrated long after he retires which is criminal. Anyways, heres the link, and I’d like to know what you guys think of the article and my response to it.
LOL @ KOBE UNDERRATED!!!
I’m not sure if being in the argument of “GREATEST EVER” can allow one to be in the underrated category!!! I will tell you that one of the arguments as to why Lebron is better really gave me a chuckle. It is because Jerry West said that he has surpassed Kobe. Now sometimes I can be accused of reading to far into things, but I asked myself a few questions when I heard this.
1. What team does Jerry West’s true alliegency lie?
After answering that question, I asked myself…..
2. What type of player is Kobe Bean Bryant, and how hotly does his competitive fire burn?
After coming to the obvious aswer of that question, I asked myself……
3. What would Kobe Bean Bryant’s mentor publicly stating that someone has surpassed him do to said competitive fire?
One championship later the full answer is obvious to me……..
JERRY WEST IS A GENIOUS, AND KOBE BEAN BRYANT IS THE BEST BASKETBALL PLAYER ON THE PLANET!!!!!!
how is Jerry West Kobe's mentor?
I mean, he traded for the guy, but that doesn’t mean he’s a mentor.
And another thing, I agree with Kobe being underrated. He is definitely under-appreciated by the media (although it’s improved)
I guess I stand corrected!!!
I don’t know…. I was just going off the fact that Kobe has called Jerry West his mentor. Maybe Kobe doesn’t know what a mentor is!!!! Also underrated and underappreciated are not the same thing. I agree he’s inderappreciated!!
hahahaa that "article" was truly something
77 – 75? Seriously?
After reading that I laughed..
First off, How can you put a numerical tally on both players head-to-head? Simply comical.
Secondly, the article forgets another important trait in a player – WINNING! How many titles does Lebron have as of yet? By my count, those 4 rings give Kobe at the very least a 10 – 5 win in the regrettably neglected “winning” category, so Kobe thus wins the competition that was undoubtedly created to “prove” Lebron’s supposed superiority.
This laughable article adds to an already silly debate
exactly, this fool needs to lay down the crack pipe
and get fired.
by desecrator09 on Dec 23, 2009 11:49 AM PST up reply actions
Heh, I like a good Lebron vs Kobe debate as much as anyone. But...
Kobe’s shot selection in the halfcourt is noteworthy; he takes most of his shots inside of 17 feet and beyond the arc. This is a smart strategy, especially because he’s shooting worse than 40 percent on long 2s. His short-range jumper has been on target (better than 50 percent accurate), but he’s struggling from the 3-point line (29 percent).
LeBron, on the other hand, settles for too many long 2s — they account for almost half of his attempted jumpers. He makes these shots more than Kobe and is making almost 40 percent of his 3s, but that success causes him to rely on his outside shot a little more than he should.
In the end, I like Kobe’s shot selection better, but LeBron overcomes that with a higher percentage of makes overall. As surprising as it may sound, King James is the better perimeter shooter right now.
Sounds like a little bit of bias to me. Kobe is terrible at shooting long two’s while Lebron settles for too many long two’s.
Category No. 3: Making teammates better
This might be the easiest category in which to see a clear separation between the two. LeBron is, simply put, the best passing guard/wing since Magic Johnson. He’s terrific with the active dribble in isolation or off ball screens, and he’s even better before he uses his dribble, reading and reacting to shifts by the defense in preparation for his drives. This creates easy buckets for guys who normally would have a tough time scoring. Most importantly, he’ll make the key pass at any part of the game, including end-of-game scenarios.
Kobe is an amazing passer, too. He has great anticipation in the halfcourt. My favorite play of his is when he dribble-drives or posts up to draw the opponent’s center or power forward to take just a step or two toward him. When that happens, the Lakers big who becomes open, typically Andrew Bynum or Pau Gasol, runs straight to the rim to catch the perfect lob pass from Kobe. It’s a devastating play, one that keeps the defending bigs in constant purgatory.
The one fair knock on Kobe is his desire to keep the ball instead of moving it. That he has such great talent around him only exacerbates the problem. He’s still a great passer, but he’s not on LeBron’s level.
LeBron 10, Kobe 8
That was laughable, especially the scoring. 10-8 for Lebron? I can understand 10-9 for Lebron, but 10-8? Yeesh. Did he watch Kobe Doin’ Work? I guess not. There are more ways to make a teammate better besides an assist. ’Ol well.
Lebron passes more often than Kobe yes, but he’s also far more ball dominant than Kobe is. He basically plays point guard on offense, whereas the triangle has every position facilitate, so if he didn’t pass more there would be a problem.
Lebron passing the ball more often is product of the offense. He's basically the entire offense.
Since that category was about making the teammates, I found the scoring puzzling, but whatevs.
"He makes these shots more than Kobe and is making almost 40 percent of his 3s,"
since when did less than 37% become “almost 40%”???
This is a debate for the future.
One that should include Kobe’s slow start in the league, the impact of the triangle offense on scoring/assist rates, playing with other great scorers, etc.
I love watching Kobe play, and as he continues to rack up wins, rings, and personal triumphs, I will continue to consider him the greatest player.
Lebron is a beast, a phenom, and I acknowledge his greatness as well. I just have a hard time getting past all the hype; tossing the powder, “Chosen 1”, pouty-loser-syndrome, Dunkgate 2009 (oh noes I got dunked on), “picture taking”, general trash talking, and last but certainly not least… his sense of entitlement (fueled by the media, “PERS”, etc).
Win first Lebron, tattoo second.
I love being a Lakers fan right now, and I love watching this team. Kobe is the man, Ironman. For me, he is the best in the game.
meh
im sick of the kobe vs lebron debate
the only kind of debate i care about is which team is better??
"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."
Between the Cavs and Lakers?
thats not even debatable
by desecrator09 on Dec 23, 2009 4:33 PM PST up reply actions
Posted by Dont H8 The Laker H8er
Can you say bias much!!! LOL
wow
lakers shot 39 FT’s
while the thunder only shot 24
that seriously needs to be cleaned up…
"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."
wait, wats wrong with that?
we shot more free throws than them. Isnt that kinda good? lol
by desecrator09 on Dec 23, 2009 11:59 AM PST up reply actions
well
the refs just need to be a little more consistent
that is all. end of discussion
"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."
i dont know why end of discussion got crossed out
haha
"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."
Aparently because the discussion isn't done!!!! LOL
Most of the time I agree with you on inconsistencies, but sometimes one team is simply the aggressor.
Yeah, regression to the mean will happen
Kobe, Fisher, and Odom are all shooting well below their career norms. Not that worried.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
Never will happen, but...
In one of my favorite instances of Bill Simmons the funny and astute NBA writer instead of Bill Simmons the irrational sports hater, you have the following idea:
And while we’re here …
• Fake Trade 7a: Jose Calderon to the Lakers for Adam Morrison (EC), Jordan Farmar and $3 million. Time for Toronto to cut the cord with Calderon (owed $37.5 million through 2013), the league’s No. 1 desperately-needs-a-change-of-scenery guy right now. He can’t defend anyone, has lost his mojo and plays with zero confidence against the Nashes and Pauls. I don’t know what happened to him. (And yes, I know his stats aren’t much different than they were in 2007. I just know what I see.) But in L.A.? He could be rejuvenated as a Steve Kerr-type shooter in that system; he’d have shot-blockers to protect him defensively; he’d have Phil Jackson rebuilding his confidence and giving him Gabriel Garcia Marquez books; and he’d get reunited with Team Spain buddy Pau Gasol. Meanwhile, Toronto makes money this year, saves 2011-2012-2013 cash and doesn’t lose much with Farmar and Jarrett Jack running the show. Win-win.
• Fake Trade 7b: Calderon to the Celtics for Eddie House (EC), Tony Allen (EC), Glen Davis and $3 million. Celts get the third guard they need; Toronto dumps Calderon’s contract, pockets $3 million and gets a useful banger in Big Baby.
(Crap. That’s not nearly as good as the Lakers trade. I feel sick. Forget I mentioned this.)
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
Hmmmm.....interesting. Colangelo loves his foreign players, so I doubt it would happen. Its
OK to dream though, right?
Hey, you never know
Stranger things have happened in this league.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
Hell Yeah do this
funny though.
(Crap. That’s not nearly as good as the Lakers trade. I feel sick. Forget I mentioned this.)
"Michael Jordan once said the quality Bryant possessed that reminded him most of himself was the desire to distance himself from contemporaries."
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Dec 23, 2009 5:24 PM PST up reply actions
Great example
Of Simmons the sports analyst clashing with Simmons the hater. It’s where a good chunk of the hilarity factor of his columns comes from.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
I live in Toronto...
and I can tell you Calderon is not feeling down by any means. He has been injured most of this season. Jarrett Jack has played well, but Jose doesn’t feel threatened by Jack’s good play.
I think Jack is good, but that’s not to say Calderon wants out.
It’s similar to when TJ Ford was the guard for the Raptors, then got hurt, and then Jose began playing well. And when Ford came back, Jose still played well, and while his playing time diminished and TJ’s play steadily worsened, TJ felt threatened by Jose’s emergence.
However, that’s why i say ‘similar.’ They are not congruent situations because Jose is happy in TO.
It's less Calderon and more Toronto's financial situation
They have a lot of money invested into a team that’s not going anywhere because they can’t defend at all. At this point, you know that Bosh is definitely going to leave, so you might as well trade your long-term assets while their value is still high to jump-start the rebuilding process. And while I’m not going to assume anything about Calderon’s current thoughts on Toronto, you really think he wouldn’t welcome an opportunity to play for a championship alongside Pau?
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
i wouldnt give up kwame brown
for jose calderon, hes that soft,plays with no heart,and wouldnt be able to win a playoff game even if he had kobes help
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Yeah, I wouldn't give up Kwame either
For a point guard that shoots 51.5% from the field, 39.7% from three, and has a 60.2 TS% despite the fact that he’s setting a career low in FT%, which is almost certainly going to regress closer to the mean. Seems stupid.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
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"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."

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