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17 of 21 ain't all it's cracked up to be

We've been hearing about it since the moment the NBA released this season's schedule.

"The Lakers play 17 of their first 21 games at home"
"Talk about an easy start to the season for the Lakers"
"I will be SHOCKED if the Lakers don't start the season 20-1"
"The Lakers have started strong, but they have a cream-puff schedule early on"
"More NBA favoritism of the Lakers, setting them up to look great with that early schedule." **
 
** [ I don't like to call out other blogs/authors much, but Denver Stiffs ran a post about how the Lakers schedule was a clear sign of favoritism from the NBA.  It's premise was laughable.  It basically stated that a big reason why the Lakers schedule is such an advantage is because it would instill the team with confidence at the start of the season.  Really?  Confidence?  You think the defending champion, led by the most confident/arrogant player in the game(depending on which side of the line you are on), led by a coach with 10 championships, is going to gain or lose confidence based on the results of the first 1/4 of the season?  That's a joke right?  The Lakers could go 10-11 over the first 21 and still think they were the best team in the league.  I can think of 5 reasons more valid than "instilling confidence" to a championship team, and I don't even believe the argument. ]

Back to the real issue.  If you ask any but the most educated non-Laker fan what they know about the team, the top three answers will look something like this.
  1. The Lakers are really, really good.
  2. The Lakers have Kobe Bryant, so I hate them
  3. The Lakers have a really easy schedule to start the season.
I've seen the schedule used as a disclaimer so many times that I'm fed up with it.  Nobody thinks the Lakers aren't as good as they've played, but everywhere you turn, it's more of the same.  "They've looked good, but only because of the schedule.  They'll have to prove it on the road, too."  There's some truth to that statement.  The Lakers will have to prove it on the road.  But if anybody wants to pay attention to the numbers, the Lakers schedule has been far from easy.  Heavy on the home tilts?  Absolutely.  But not easy.  And if last year was any indication, the quality of the opponent matters a whole hell of a lot more than the location of the game, to the Lakers.

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Last season, the Lakers were 36-5 at home and 29-12 on the road.  That's an 87.8% winning percentage for home games and 70.7% winning percentage on the road.  It's a significant difference, one that shouldn't be ignored.  If those percentages held true for the Lakers to start this season, with their home heavy schedule, the Lakers would have 18 wins after 21 games.  If those percentages were applied to a more standard breakdown, say 11 home games and 10 road games, the Lakers would have either 16 or 17 wins.  So, if last year's performance is to be used as a standard (a fair assumption, I think), this ridiculous scheduling is only good for increasing the Lakers record by a game or two.  It's not an insignificant advantage, but it's also not nearly as big an advantage as it's been made out to be.

Look, I get it.  To certain NBA teams, home court is a huge deal.  If Utah or Portland had the same home/away ratio to start the season, it might make the difference between 16-5 and 11-10.  If Denver or Cleveland had it, it could be the difference between 19-2 and 14-7.  For some teams, playing at home is a huge advantage.  The crowd gives them energy, their players (especially young ones) play with more confidence.  It's good to play at home.

 
But the Lakers aren't one of those teams.  They perform better at home, but it's not the difference between a championship team and a lottery team.  It's the difference between a championship team and a top tier team, which isn't much of a difference at all.  If you double the Lakers road wins last season, you still have a 58 win season, good for 4th in the league, right behind Orlando.
 
A much more telling indicator of wins and losses than Home vs. Away is the quality of your opponent.  Last season, the Lakers went 30-1 against teams in the lower 3rd of the league, and 35-16 against teams in the upper 2/3 (courtesy of 82games.com).  Now that is a big difference.  That's a 96.8% winning percentage against the true dregs of the league, and a 68.6% win pct against everyone else. 
 
The Lakers have started this season with a pretty tough schedule, in terms of opponent quality.  Of teams with 5 losses or less, only the Hawks have a tougher Strengh of Schedule than L.A.  Only the Hawks (6) have played less teams from the bottom 1/3 than L.A (7).  Dallas also has 7 "patsy games" and the rest of the "elite" teams have 8.  Phoenix has 11, which goes a long way towards explaining their early season success. 
 
Now, one game against a patsy might not sound like a huge difference, and it's not.  But if the actual Strength of Schedule factor is taken into account, the difference becomes even more dramatic.  Of the elite teams, Atlanta has far and away the toughest SOS at this point with a .534 opponent's win pct, but the Lakers are 2nd with .493.  Dallas is close to LA at .486, and everyone else has had a significantly lower SOS than LA.  Most egregious is Phoenix at .44 and Denver at .403 (who's getting that favoritism now?).
 
And the only reason the Lakers SOS isn't even tougher is because they've gone through a batch of really bad teams in the past few games.  Going back to the games against "patsies" argument, The Lakers have had 4 of those "patsies" in the last 5 games, so you can only imagine how "easy" their schedule had been before that stretch.   When Pau Gasol was out, the Lakers were at or near the top of the league in SOS.  Those early season struggles were more than just Pau being out or the Lakers not playing well.  They were also going up against pretty good teams (albeit mostly at home) almost every single night.
 
So the next time you hear someone talk about the Lakers early season schedule being soft, go ahead and set the record straight.  Yes, the Lakers have played a ton of home games at this point.  Yes, I think we can all agree that the schedule should be more balanced.  But playing at home is not a super significant advantage to this Laker squad, and the quality of the opponent they have been playing at home as been pretty top notch until this last week.  If you think the Lakers will taper off once "their schedule gets harder" by playing more road games, you might want to reconsider.

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Excellent write up C.A.

Don’t let those clowns from Denver stiffs get to you bro.

by wavenstein on Dec 2, 2009 1:25 PM PST reply actions  

Awesome, Awesome article CA.

I hope this gets cited on BDL, because people really need to read it.

Confidence? Favoritism? How about scheduling the defending champions in your arena on the 2nd night of a back to back? How about if, in your arena, teams that are on the second night of a back to back coming from the West Coast have gone 1-20? Does that not give you the best chance to knock off the defending champions as possible from a pure matchmaking standpoint? What kind of favoritism is that????

What I just wrote was pretty ridiculous, but it’s not far off from the reasoning used by people to argue that the Lakers early home heavy sked is evidence of major-market favoritism. Great job of breaking down how wrong those people are, CA.

The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.

by Justin N. on Dec 2, 2009 1:42 PM PST reply actions  

also,

the reason I think people need to read this is because I’m tired of reading about favoritism and what not in the league. We have enough problems with the Donaghy accusations…people need to keep their mouths shut and refrain from tarnishing the NBA’s name unless they legitimately know what they are talking about.

The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.

by Justin N. on Dec 2, 2009 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Part of the reason is also scheduling conflicts

Staples Center is booked for significant chunks of February/March/April for random events, so the Lakers have to be out of the building for those periods.

To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.

by Ben R on Dec 2, 2009 1:52 PM PST reply actions  

grammys

awards and stuff
alot of it happens at staples and LA live so that explains why our schedule is so road heavy at those points…

Leave Chad Billingsley alone!!!

by shaqfor3 on Dec 2, 2009 3:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Great Post!

I’ll take a fact based commentary over a conspiracy theory any day of the week!

by chbooth_66 on Dec 2, 2009 2:39 PM PST reply actions  

There you guys go again, ruining everything by introducing facts into the argument.

"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson

by Gils_Keloids on Dec 2, 2009 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Praise!

but dont you agree it will be hard to talk all that BS when the lakers are holding the trophy?

YOU CAN PUT IT ON THE BOARD YES!
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by Czheck on Dec 2, 2009 2:39 PM PST reply actions  

I don’t worry too much about strength of schedule. When I look at the Lakers so far this season I see:

9-0 against teams below .500 (as of today)
5-3 against teams above .500

Plus the 5 wins against above .500 teams include 2 OT games.

My season to date summary:
Good so far but not epic.

  • They did survive Pau’s absence well enough
  • They have done well getting Artest into the flow
  • The OT wins on the road show guts but they could easily have been losses
  • With all the talk about the bench giving up leads they are 9-0 against sub-.500 teams – certainly better focus than last year

Good so far but there is a long way to go.

The Lakers "Too big, too strong, too long, too good."

by olf on Dec 2, 2009 2:42 PM PST reply actions  

Nice read,

I cant even compliment how good melo or anyone on that team is without getting either cussed out or insulted.

Kinda funny actually

" I'm a human, not a sandwich"

by true_lakerfan on Dec 2, 2009 2:49 PM PST reply actions  

Yeah I read that stuff last night.

Sore winners, sore losers. Pathetic. Even SternfluffsKobe was getting into the bash true_lakerfan act.

Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."

by pslakerfan on Dec 2, 2009 5:45 PM PST up reply actions  

in the land of the one-eyed men...

…the blind man is extremely jealous.

Isn’t that how it goes?

The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.

by Justin N. on Dec 2, 2009 9:06 PM PST up reply actions  

nice

Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."

by pslakerfan on Dec 2, 2009 9:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I think it's

“In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king”.

But I knew what you meant. Jealousy, blindness, Cyclops…

"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson

by Gils_Keloids on Dec 2, 2009 9:47 PM PST up reply actions  

personally

I think he is someone who got banned from this site and has come back as a new user just to talk trash.

I think smashing the Suns made me realize how far Kobe and the Lakers have come from five years ago, when the Suns had the world at their feet.

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Dec 2, 2009 5:14 PM PST up reply actions  

How about the media blowing Ron Artest's comments out of the water?

On ESPN video, the announcer puts some emphasis on his words and said that Artest admitted he used to drink HEAVILY during halftime where Ron just said he drank. He never said heavily and its interesting to see first hand how the media can distort stuff to make the story more interesting.

The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.

by Justin N. on Dec 2, 2009 3:41 PM PST reply actions  

great article C.A.

it got featured on BDL

Leave Chad Billingsley alone!!!

by shaqfor3 on Dec 2, 2009 4:24 PM PST reply actions  

72 Wins still on the table! Close to the edge, but still there!

"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson

by Gils_Keloids on Dec 2, 2009 5:02 PM PST reply actions  

great article.

You make some great points.

I found the argument of the nba favoritism particularly interesting. While it may not make any difference for the reigning champion lakers confidence wise to get off to a good start, I would say that would be a poignant argument if it was made in favor of any non-“BIG 5” team (San Antonio, Bos, Cle, Orl, LaL). Getting of to a good start is extremely important.

It’s like in football, if you let a terrible team hang in there long enough, they will start to think they have a chance. For the NBA, I think Phoenix’s and Atlanta’s great start was paramount for their season.

In Kobe we trust!

by robi s on Dec 2, 2009 6:12 PM PST reply actions  

how soon they forget..

The Lakers had a really tough schedual leading into the playoffs with like the last 20 games on the road a while back. I dont think theres any real favoritism in schedualing except for ratings. Remember the Portland/Seattle ( Oden vs.Durrant ) schedualed first game of the season? that sure flopped.

" Defense wins games! "

by Captain $hugg on Dec 2, 2009 7:52 PM PST reply actions  

yea

its not like we get 60 home games or something. the end of the season with a bunch of games on the road is going to be tough for us. its a foolish argument

"Elvis Andrus has just preformed a MIRACLE!"
-Eric Nadel, 5/4/09

by Jason Brynsvold on Dec 2, 2009 8:55 PM PST up reply actions  

nets break the all time record for worst start

they lost to the dallas mavericks at home…

Leave Chad Billingsley alone!!!

by shaqfor3 on Dec 2, 2009 9:37 PM PST reply actions  

Leave Chad Billingsley alone!!!

by shaqfor3 on Dec 2, 2009 9:39 PM PST up reply actions  

very creative but sucks for the NETS

I always think that if I was at a game and tried to make a sign like that what would it say:

put in TNT legs
or
Dear Lakers Bench
Always
Be
Closing

I’m sure I can think of others…I have before.

I think smashing the Suns made me realize how far Kobe and the Lakers have come from five years ago, when the Suns had the world at their feet.

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Dec 2, 2009 9:47 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah

feel bad for them

Leave Chad Billingsley alone!!!

by shaqfor3 on Dec 2, 2009 9:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I just met a die hard NETS fan today

imagine that….in El Segundo California. Anyways, he was so upset. He didn’t even want to talk about it. As a fan I can relate to how he must feel because I have felt that upset before.

I think smashing the Suns made me realize how far Kobe and the Lakers have come from five years ago, when the Suns had the world at their feet.

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Dec 2, 2009 10:03 PM PST up reply actions  

mavs outscored them 49-22 in the 2nd Quarter

damn
thats pretty ugly

Leave Chad Billingsley alone!!!

by shaqfor3 on Dec 2, 2009 10:15 PM PST up reply actions  

let me guess...

was it that 5 year period between 1992 and 1997? ugh, felt the knife twist during elden campbell flashback…

Lakers, Hurricanes, Dolphins
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by LAKESHOWrydamee on Dec 3, 2009 10:03 AM PST up reply actions  

The guy's expression fits the sign so well.

The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.

by Justin N. on Dec 2, 2009 11:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Good writeup!

Using… gasp! NUMBERS!

People are being dumb anyway. Only three things really matter in scheduling.
1. Back to backs- Playing these is bad. Some teams have a lot more than others. I think Lakers are actually on the tougher end of this.
2. Conference- Scheduling dudes don’t have any say in this.
3. Four teams- You play four teams in your conference only 3 times. You prefer it to be 4 good teams, but usually it’s some good some bad.

Other than that. Everyone has the same schedule. When you play your home/road games is irrelevant for the most part. Portland fans are griping about playing 63,000 games in 20 days, but that just means the rest of the season is a cakewalk comparatively.

Poster for next year? I'm thinking My Little Pony.

by Zaig on Dec 3, 2009 3:54 AM PST reply actions  

Great article

Loved the write-up. I was just checking the SOS numbers a few days ago and wondering which was more important. Listening to the media, all they check is home v. away.

But I don’t even think that’s the most relevant take down of the “favoritism” argument. When I first saw the schedule I immediately thought it was a NEGATIVE for the lakers. Everybody ends up with the same number of home and road games (actually if people want to complain they should talk about the 2 “road” games v. the clippers), so any advantage in the early going would mean extra road games later.

Maybe the Nuggets fans aren’t familiar enough with postseason play to undderstand this, but how the team is playing LATE matters a LOT more than any “confidence” earned at the beginning of the year. Did the Lakers confidence in 2007 prevent them from the late implosion that almost cost the Kobe Bryant? Did Utah’s confidence after a good first half of the season prevent them from melting down the latter half of last season? Did it come back and help them in their 4 game loss to the Lakers? Ask any coach in any sport whether he’d rather start or finish the season hot and they’ll tell you the key is momentum going into the playoffs.

The truth of the matter is that this home heavy schedule means more, longer road trips later in the season. The Lakers have THREE 5+ game road trips this year (and one stretch of 6 in 7 games), including one 8 game road trip in late January. That trip includes both their road games against Cleveland and Boston. If this is favoritism, I’d hate to see what a negative bias looks like.

Moreover, I think the Lakers have 22 back to backs this year, not most in the league, but close. Several of those happen during the aforementioned road trips. Good thing they’ll have confidence to keep them rested during those stretches!

And speaking of back to backs, Denver itself has a huge advantage here. As we’ve been discussing at FB&G, over the last 2 years Denver is 18-1 (most recently v. Golden State) against teams playing there on the second night of a back to back after playing in the Pacific Time Zone. 18 games over 2 seasons is roughly 10% of their games, including one this season against the Lakers, when they looked like they hadn’t slept in 2 days. Is THAT an advantage that could give a team undeserved confidence? Seems likely. Are the extra won games enough to affect playoff seeding? They only beat Portland for the division title last year because they had a tie breaker, so I’d say it has definitiely affected seeding.

But you know what? That’s the breaks. Its not favoritism, it’s how the chips fall. The Nuggets benefit from that, while Portland benefits from a great home crowd. There are no back to backs in the playoffs, so Denver better not take it for granted.

People dislike the Lakers because of their dominance, just like people hate the Yankees. Their irrationality towards us is actually a compliment. If the Lakers collapse later in the year they can prove they were right about the schedule. And if not, they’ll just grind their teeth and have to deal with the fact that their hated nemesis is just that good.

by j_d_hastings on Dec 3, 2009 10:58 AM PST reply actions  

I didn't really understand your comments until I re-viewed the piece

The whole thing is not meant to argue against the Denver Stiffs post. Only the first paragraph was. It was supposed to be like a footnote, but I guess I didn’t do a very good job of signifying that. Format Fail. I made some changes that hopefully make that a bit more clear.

So yeah, I’m not really trying to combat the “favoritism” argument very much, because I don’t even think of it as worth the time to combat. Most of the piece is combatting the idea that the Lakers schedule has been easy, something that EVERYBODY has been saying.

The Denver back-to-backs thing is quite interesting, and a clear cut advantage for the Nuggets, but like you said, that’s just how things work out. I wonder if the NBA schedules the Nuggets for more of their own back-to-back games (something Nuggets fans are quick to complain about) in order to combat the fact that the Nuggets have such an advantage when playing opponents on the 2nd end of a back to back.

by C.A. Clark on Dec 3, 2009 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

yeah

The denver thing specifically annoyed me, but that anybody is complaining about an aspect of the schedule that obviously must even out over the latter part of the season seems absurd to me. People speak about it as though they play fewer road games over the course of the season, when their concerns about the schedule really come down to WHEN the road games are allotted. And any attempt to argue that its best to have home games early seem slike a stretch at best. The “confidence” issue brought up in the Denver blog is the only attempt I’ve actually seen at justifying why early home games are better than having them spread out evenly, or piled on at the end of the year.

by j_d_hastings on Dec 3, 2009 12:20 PM PST up reply actions  

That

is as good a defense of LA’s 17 of 21 at home opening schedule as you’d ever want to read. Thomas Aquinas would have little to add. My questions are: do you think simply focussing on recent Laker performance (this season, last season) obviates long-term league-wide Home/Road split numbers?

Second, and this is a real question, do you think periods in which a team has an opportunity to rack up a lot of wins via schedule advantages (and I’m pretty much standing by hardly going on the road for 17 of 21 games as an advantage, however slight you may see it as) are non-factors averaged out by later scheduling?

That is, is there a correspondingly difficult period scheduled for later, or merely average scheduling? If there’s not a (long term statistically, not short term team performance) a matching tough period, then you have to say LA is receiving some sort of advantage from the schedule.

Outperforming historical averages on the road might seem to make homecourt advantage comparatively less valuable, but I would say that the value of homecourt doesn’t change, only the detriment from road games is lessened, and that is probably a short term trend.

Honestly, what I’d like to see is winning percentages over long homestands versus, “back for 2 games, on the road for 2 more” periods. That’s where any historical statistical advantage would be found. Alas, I lack the resources, time and intellect to do this.

by Xiane on Dec 3, 2009 2:08 PM PST reply actions  

LOL, too many really good questions to be adressed properly

But I’ll do the best I can. For me, analyzing scheduling advantages and disadvantages is extremely difficult to do on a macro-scale because what constitutes and advantage/disadvantage is relative to each team. As I mentioned in the post, if a team like Denver, or Utah, or even a medium/bad team like Minnesota or Oklahoma City, had a schedule that looked like the Lakers’ to start the season, I could understand why somebody would call it very favorable, even within the context of the overall schedule. The momentum built by a fast start, the confidence of having a good run of basketball, these are all real, plausible advantages that SOME teams would gain by having a home heavy tilt to start the season. But for a veteran team, especially the defending champion, I think the corresponding advantage is far less. That was my main issue with the post on Denver Stiffs. He was making an argument for why the schedule was blatant favoritism for the Lakers, but the logic he was using to make the argument didn’t correspond to the Lakers, it corresponded to the Nuggets.

The best example of this I can provide is the exact opposite scenario, the long road trip. Most would consider a long road trip to be a big disadvantage to your schedule. Having to go for a week or even two without playing once in a friendly environment could be a recipe for disaster. And for some teams it is. Look at the Bulls performance on their annual Circus trip, and tell me that that long road trip, at the beginning of the season, isn’t detrimental to them as a young team that isn’t very good.

But then, you look at other teams (usually veteran teams) and see that for some, a long road trip can actually be a big advantage. Kobe has said that he looks forward to a long road trip, and machismo of “looking forward to a challenge” aside, the results back him up. Right as the Lakers picked up Gasol two years ago, they were on a 9 game road trip, which I believe was the longest road trip in the league’s past 5 years or something like that. They went 7-2. Last year, they had that 6 game road trip with Cleveland and Boston at the end, and went 6-0. Going away from L.A., how often have the Spurs used their mid-season Rodeo-trip to successfully springboard themselves into position for a deep playoff run? For these teams, a long road trip can help to focus the team, galvanize the roster into playing purposeful ball because they know what it takes to win on the road.

And that’s my point. Every team is different, so what is advantageous to one team could be disadvantageous to another. In this case, what seems like a very advantageous early schedule to most is, in my opinion, only a marginal advantage, because L.A. isn’t buoyed by playing at home as much as other teams. You say the value of playing at home doesn’t change, only the detriment of road games is lessened, but I think that pretty much proves the point. If playing on the road isn’t a very big detriment, how can it be considered an advantage to play a bunch of games in a row at home? The advantage of playing at home is relative to the disadvantage of not playing at home. And while the Lakers road success is a short term trend, the schedule itself is also a short term trend. If the Lakers started every season with 17 of the first 21 at home, this would be a different argument.

For a team like the Lakers, who are good at home and good on the road, analyzing advantages or disadvantages from how they have their home and away games split is pretty pointless to me. It’s been made clear over the past couple of years that the Lakers are a good team home or away, so for them the quality of their opponent is far more important, and even analyzing that as an advantage or disadvantage is pointless, because too many factors (injuries, improvements or regressions of other teams, current form) go into the quality of an opponent that can not be determined before the season when the schedule is made.

by C.A. Clark on Dec 3, 2009 3:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks for the long thoughtful answer.

I think my last question is more or less intact, but I don’t know how (absent a major effort or stats staff) we could get the granularity to pick out the advantage or disadvantage of long homestands or road trips versus short returns home, or one game road trips, etc. I tend to think that switching the home/road routine frequently could be worse than doing a lot of either one at once.

You are suggesting that long road trips aren’t necessarily bad. There could be something to it. The team can focus on playing basketball, and not, say on the guest house addition where the contractors have disappeared, or the 2nd cousin who has this sure-fire business idea or babies that don’t sleep. Could well be. I have often gotten incredible amounts of work done on business trips – nothing else to do, really.

I think I didn’t phrase my thought about the value of home games not changing even if the team plays well on the road that clearly. Let me attack it another way. It could be that the Lakers, being an excellent team, received a comparatively smaller benefit from a long home stand, owing to the fact that their record suffers less on the road. Fair enough. But, at their rarified level, small advantages are also more telling. For example, it really doesn’t matter if the Nets pick up two extra wins because of scheduling advantages. But it could REALLY matter for the Lakers, or Cavs. It could mean homecourt advantage. And homecourt advantage in the playoffs, that does matter.

Something to think about, I suppose. As is the fairness of back-to-backs into altitude, the power of the circus, hurricanes, political conventions and so forth.

by Xiane on Dec 3, 2009 11:16 PM PST up reply actions  

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