Lakers-Bulls Open Thread
by DexterFishmore on Dec 15, 2009 4:30 PM PST
in Game Threads
573 comments
Los Angeles Lakers at Chicago Bulls, Dec 15, 2009 5:00 PM PST
It's an early one tonight, kids. Jump time is 5:00 p.m. Pacific. I've barely had time this afternoon to eat my Honeycomb and read Ziggy, let alone prepare for hoops.
Word from the Lakers is that Kobe Bryant's stomach illness is gone. The avulsion fracture, of course, persists. He'll play through the pain tonight and got in some extra shooting practice at the United Center earlier today.
Drinking-game triggers are any mention of:
- Vinny Del Negro as "beleaguered."
- Taj Gibson having played at USC.
- The aborted Kobe-to-Chicago trade in 2007.
- Phil Jackson having once coached the Bulls.
- The Joakim Noah-LeBron scrape.
And take a big slug of your beverage of choice upon any Kobe-Michael Jordan comparison of any kind.
0 recs |
573 comments
|
Email
Print
Comments
Also take a shot if these bonus topics/event are referenced or happen
Scott Baio
Any mispronunciation of “Joe-Kim Noah”
Derrick Rose and the SAT
Last year’s Celtic-Bulls Playoff series
Joel talks over/interrupts Hot Rod Hundley (wait, is Stu back yet?)
Tiger Woods
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
Unforch, it'll be Hundley again
Stu not back until the 21st, I think. Bad times.
by DexterFishmore on Dec 15, 2009 5:00 PM PST up reply actions
These games have been a boon to Joel
He’s really come out of his shell. He’s more opinionated, more emphatic and no longer relies on Stu’s input and criticisms. I say keep Stu and his inane rants and idiotic imagiary conversation in his own house.
Find Joel a better color guy.
Fill it up again! Fill it up again! Once it hits your lips, it’s so good!
"These young guys are playing checkers. I'm out there playing chess" - Kobe
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Dec 15, 2009 5:11 PM PST up reply actions
Worthy butchered Joakim’s name during halftime. He said something along the lines of “Hwa-keem” Yikes.
Worthy says stuff like
Pow Kuhs-ow, Farmer,
Calls Luke Walton Bill Walton
and those are just the guys on the lakers…
But it all pales in comparison to the stuff that comes out of Jim Hills mouth so you don’t really notice it.
Anyone here got Madden NFL 10?
how good is it and is it worth buying?
Hahaha
The Lakers introduction is paired with “The Imperial March.”
Hilarious.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
OK, looks like Artest just got blocked by Noah
I can read the box score
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
Brad Miller has assisted on every basket
All two of them
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
Staring at the box score and live update
It sure seems like bad D
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
by Gils_Keloids on Dec 15, 2009 5:17 PM PST up reply actions
this could be a long night
Kobe doesnt look good so far. Nobody does for that matter
Bulls were up big on Denver,
then got shut down and lost big.
We miss you, Ben Gordon!
by Granny Waiters on Dec 15, 2009 5:18 PM PST up reply actions
This
after 4 minutes in the game… You’re right though,Kobe doesn’t look so far.. Wait..
by Julio Nievas on Dec 15, 2009 5:30 PM PST up reply actions
Everything else is in the Lakers favor.
We miss you, Ben Gordon!
by Granny Waiters on Dec 15, 2009 5:22 PM PST up reply actions
Bulls shooting 75%.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Bulls playing Noah and Miller simultaneously. They've got no answer for Odom off the bench.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
That could be good for the Bulls Offense
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
by Gils_Keloids on Dec 15, 2009 5:20 PM PST up reply actions
Terrible call.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
I notice he has switched the splint for tape.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Now he has a fingertip exposed so he can feel and grip the ball...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
hello!
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
by Gils_Keloids on Dec 15, 2009 5:23 PM PST up reply actions
He’s using a more “relaxed” splint. Ireland noted that he’s shooting the ball better.
by Julio Nievas on Dec 15, 2009 5:22 PM PST up reply actions
So how is Derrick Rose getting points?
Pick and roll?
Just burning DFish?
Is it sustainable?
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
He's getting to the rack.
He’ll score 30+ tonight, because he has to…
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Whoops, he's off to the locker room...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Looks like he pulled a muscle in his shoulder or something.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
I feel somehow responsible ...
Delusions of grandeur
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
by Gils_Keloids on Dec 15, 2009 5:25 PM PST up reply actions
Not that I wanted it to happen
I like DRose’s game
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
by Gils_Keloids on Dec 15, 2009 5:26 PM PST up reply actions
Rose is hurt, went to the locker room.
We miss you, Ben Gordon!
by Granny Waiters on Dec 15, 2009 5:24 PM PST up reply actions
Getting to the rim
By Fish, not much help from the bigs
by DexterFishmore on Dec 15, 2009 5:23 PM PST up reply actions
I was just thinking that.
"These young guys are playing checkers. I'm out there playing chess" - Kobe
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Dec 15, 2009 5:26 PM PST up reply actions
But all jumpers so far
Just looking at the play-by-play
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
by Gils_Keloids on Dec 15, 2009 5:27 PM PST up reply actions
Stacey King: "[The Lakers] are like the heavyweight champion of the world — they'll take your jab, they'll take your best shot, and just keep coming back at you."
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Kobe is in a zone
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
Fish, pass to Kobe on the fast break please
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
Rose: Strained left rib, questionable return, per Stacey King.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Now some defense pls thx
And also pls not reversion to mean anytime soon (or maybe this is the reversion to the mean based on his crap night in Utah)
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
by Gils_Keloids on Dec 15, 2009 5:30 PM PST up reply actions
How many in a row for him is that?
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
by Gils_Keloids on Dec 15, 2009 5:30 PM PST up reply actions
Seven I believe
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
just looked at play play I saw 8
The first was an and-one with a FT
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
by Gils_Keloids on Dec 15, 2009 5:32 PM PST up reply actions
There's got to be a foul in here somewhere
“Kirk Hinrich blocks Kobe Bryant’s 25-foot three point jumper”
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
Hinrich did foul him but no call. Even Phil Jackson got up and yelled at the official about the
non-call.
I can't even see it, and I knew that!
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
by Gils_Keloids on Dec 15, 2009 5:38 PM PST up reply actions
soo, the double teams must be coming
Finally, right?
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
by Gils_Keloids on Dec 15, 2009 5:35 PM PST up reply actions
31-31
Wish I could have seen it
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
by Gils_Keloids on Dec 15, 2009 5:36 PM PST up reply actions
oh it's not because of that
I have other restrictions, but thx
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
by Gils_Keloids on Dec 15, 2009 5:38 PM PST up reply actions
Wow, Taj had a wide open look from the foul line and missed it...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Great to see Kobe back
now can we please place some fucking D????
Yes
The Chicago Bulls
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
by Gils_Keloids on Dec 15, 2009 5:38 PM PST up reply actions
20-13 run since Rose out.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Lakers should really try this defense thing
heard it wins games
Nice move by UPS. (my feed is slow)
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
There was some good D by the Lakers, finally.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Tracy Mcgrady to make season debut tonight
case you havent heard
There goes that insurance money!!!
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Laker D has been much better
Chicago scored 14 points on their first 8 possessions. They’ve scored 21 points on their 22 possessions since.
Bulls will choke either this quarter and/or the third.
We miss you, Ben Gordon!
by Granny Waiters on Dec 15, 2009 5:46 PM PST up reply actions
Rose back on the bench in uniform.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Nice drive by Jordy..
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
He looks so much better than he did at the start of the year...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
His free throw shooting is still awful
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
1-4 from the floor
6 rebounds, 2 offensive rebounds though
by Julio Nievas on Dec 15, 2009 5:50 PM PST up reply actions
Pau needs to go faster. That was Odenesque...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
James Johnson is a solid basketball player. Artest should learn the jump hook. He had
Johnson beat with his first move in the post, but the secondary move his shot blocked.
Artest hits that turnaround
A lot more often than you would think.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
Hey Kareem, we have work for you...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Whoops, that reply belongs one up...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
I doubt they call them "Bulls Girls"
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Anybody know?
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Squeeze-a-bull, Hump-a-bulls, something like that...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
What was the first team that had cheerleaders in the NBA?
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
LUVABULLS is the correct answer.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
That's definitely more appealing than calling them "The Cows"...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
The "Cows" are the Bulls when they play badly.
Laker Girls > Luvabulls.
Except for Rose, you guy are better at everything. :(
We miss you, Ben Gordon!
by Granny Waiters on Dec 15, 2009 6:00 PM PST up reply actions
Rose is great.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Fisher is not so great.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
So is Blog-a-Bull melting down yet?
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
We will when you guys go up by 20+ in the 3rd.
We miss you, Ben Gordon!
by Granny Waiters on Dec 15, 2009 6:05 PM PST up reply actions
Bulls tickets start at only $10
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Sign me up.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
He's turning out quite good. That was classy that one Chicago columnist that dissed him ate his column...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
I think it takes Bigs a few years to learn how to play.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Nice D this quarter
still would like see them limit those offensive boards and also give the ball to Pau more often.
"Oh man, Deron Williams!!! Hey, you're from Utah — GREAT state...... I got the crap beat out of me in Provo one time..."
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Hot Rod is terrible. I'm OK with the Bulls crew tonight.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Neil Funk blows half his calls.
We miss you, Ben Gordon!
by Granny Waiters on Dec 15, 2009 6:05 PM PST up reply actions
Bulls have done a nice job, considering that they suck...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
thats one problem i see arising
when we play the Celtics. They’ll just pack the paint in and dare us to make outside shots. Scarily, this plan worked to near perfection in the 08 Finals.
by desecrator09 on Dec 15, 2009 6:07 PM PST up reply actions
I'm not so sure the Celtics get there.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Hope you guys beat whoever comes out of the East.
We miss you, Ben Gordon!
by Granny Waiters on Dec 15, 2009 6:09 PM PST up reply actions
Noah grabbed a bunch of those over Gasol
by pedro_oliveira on Dec 15, 2009 6:07 PM PST up reply actions
Bynum is not a very good rebounder. Obviously.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
is it possible to bring rodman out of retirement?
i bet that guy can out rebound bynum at his age…haha
Leave Chad Billingsley alone!!!
AC Green is the model a Laker fan should tout...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Noah is probably the best offensive rebounder in the NBA.
One of the very few bright spots for the Bulls.
We miss you, Ben Gordon!
by Granny Waiters on Dec 15, 2009 6:09 PM PST up reply actions
HALFTIME: LAL 54, BULLS 48
“A solid first half by the Bulls,” correctly states their play-by-play guy.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
oh damn
rose crossed up kobe back there
but he failed to make the layup…
kobes shooting great
but the defense is failing us
noah getting too many offensive boards and second chance points
Leave Chad Billingsley alone!!!
Ha ha: "And Vinnie — We are praying for you..." says the hipster halftime analyst on the LPBB show...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Showing the Derek Fisher poserization: "And Derek Fisher — what size shoe does he wear? He wears a size 13 on the head!!!"
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
I really miss Stu
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
I haven't been watching him much. He must be playing crap D or something...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
they should be ticked off
getting only 1 rebound is inexcusable
by desecrator09 on Dec 15, 2009 6:11 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
thank bynum for that.
"These young guys are playing checkers. I'm out there playing chess" - Kobe
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Dec 15, 2009 6:13 PM PST up reply actions
Well, we need somebody to rebound. Unfortunately Bynum is not that guy.
by pedro_oliveira on Dec 15, 2009 6:11 PM PST up reply actions
Lamar is playing much better on both ends, shame hes getting crap foul calls
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
Rebounds please?
Artest get some hops!
Magic Johnson’s “San Manuel” commercial is so horrible, I am glued to it every time it plays.
It's only 60 miles from center court! Center ice, you mean?
by DexterFishmore on Dec 15, 2009 6:12 PM PST up reply actions
+20
I think I posted that last game. Reminds you about Earvin’s long career as a talk show host.
And accountants.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Like I said before
When Bynum has to play D against teams that are bangers he blows. He is lucky TT isnt in there.
"These young guys are playing checkers. I'm out there playing chess" - Kobe
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Dec 15, 2009 6:12 PM PST reply actions
you and your TT obsession :P
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
Reinsdorf wants to trade TT.
We miss you, Ben Gordon!
by Granny Waiters on Dec 15, 2009 6:14 PM PST up reply actions
do it Mitch!
"These young guys are playing checkers. I'm out there playing chess" - Kobe
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Dec 15, 2009 6:14 PM PST up reply actions
Blazers can use him, 'cept a lot of their trade bait is broken right now.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Because of oden I would not mind seeing him on the Blazers
anyone except Spurs, and that throw up green team
"These young guys are playing checkers. I'm out there playing chess" - Kobe
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Dec 15, 2009 6:18 PM PST up reply actions
I doubt they want Steve Blake, who is the guy KP is said to be shopping.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
lol
excuse me! the proper vernacular is “man crush” thank you very much!
"These young guys are playing checkers. I'm out there playing chess" - Kobe
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Dec 15, 2009 6:14 PM PST up reply actions
So TT can light him up on offense
With his jumpers from 15-20 feet?
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
And I suppose he could "bang" with his post game
But wait, he doesn’t have one. This TT obsession really defies all logic.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
Phil Jackson could make him a useful player.
We miss you, Ben Gordon!
by Granny Waiters on Dec 15, 2009 6:18 PM PST up reply actions
Oh, definitely
But not the TT of now that is obsessed with shooting jumpers from the outside and not taking advantage of his athleticism on offense. That we rarely had Rose-TT alley-oops last year was incredible.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
here we go again
Bynum would kill TT on the offensive end. But Bynum can barely outrebound Noah
"These young guys are playing checkers. I'm out there playing chess" - Kobe
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Dec 15, 2009 6:19 PM PST up reply actions
Except Noah is one of the best rebounders in the league
And better than anyone on our team.
Your point was that Bynum would fail against TT because he can’t play defense against “bangers.” What on earth indicates that TT is a “banger” on offense when he’s so perimeter-happy?
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
I have yet to see TT be a banger,
and I watch 75+ Bulls games a year.
We miss you, Ben Gordon!
by Granny Waiters on Dec 15, 2009 6:22 PM PST up reply actions
oh is that what you were trying to say earlier
Bynum can’t out rebound TT. that’s it. nothing having to do with offense.
"These young guys are playing checkers. I'm out there playing chess" - Kobe
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Dec 15, 2009 6:22 PM PST up reply actions
Doesn't even do that
Bynum rebound rate:
‘08-’09 - 15.6’10 — 14.6
’09
Thomas rebound rate
‘08-’09 - 13.4’10 — 13.8
’09
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
*sigh* damn the formatting
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
Numbaz
2nd Quarter
Possessions: 23 each
Points Per Possession: Lakers – 1.00, Bulls – 0.74
1st Half
Possessions: 47 each
PPP: Lakers – 1.15, Bulls – 1.02
That means the Bulls are in trouble.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Didja get my email today, Dex?
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Yeah, I did - thanks.
Haven’t had a chance to focus on the substance yet, but I’ll definitely get to it.
by DexterFishmore on Dec 15, 2009 6:20 PM PST up reply actions
The Bulls Cows usually collapse in the 3rd.
We miss you, Ben Gordon!
by Granny Waiters on Dec 15, 2009 6:17 PM PST up reply actions
They need to lose tonight because I've got a good Bulls joke written.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
c'mon!
just say it now. sneak peak?
"These young guys are playing checkers. I'm out there playing chess" - Kobe
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Dec 15, 2009 6:20 PM PST up reply actions
eh
but he plays better D than Bynum and I watch 90 of the Lakers games (including pre-season) : )
"These young guys are playing checkers. I'm out there playing chess" - Kobe
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Dec 15, 2009 6:23 PM PST up reply actions
TT
TT=Elden Campbell. Got talent, but no drive or heart.
Before we start harping on Bynum
He’s been guarding Miller on the perimeter for most of the game, so he hasn’t really been in rebounding position. Gasol was simply getting outworked by Noah on the boards…which Noah does to everyone.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
SHHHHH!
No one’s bitched about Bynum yet. I don’t want them to start!
by DexterFishmore on Dec 15, 2009 6:17 PM PST up reply actions
(with sarcasm meter off for the moment)
Uh, note the previous 20+ comments I suppose?
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
Oh. Yeah.
Missed those. I knew something didn’t seem right.
by DexterFishmore on Dec 15, 2009 6:20 PM PST up reply actions
too late!
if you give him the ball on offensive he really is the best (top 3) center in the league. I’m sure if he can run to post up on offense he can run to get a rebound from the 3pt line.
"These young guys are playing checkers. I'm out there playing chess" - Kobe
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Dec 15, 2009 6:20 PM PST up reply actions
holy crap!!
Watching CLE vs. NJ on NBA tv and Harris just strangled Jamario moon on a fastbreak (flagrant 2). Shaq goes crazy
I guess I need to watch SportsCenter tonight...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
i'll
never forget Shaq going crazy on Miller.
"These young guys are playing checkers. I'm out there playing chess" - Kobe
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Dec 15, 2009 6:22 PM PST up reply actions
Stacey: "Gasol looks like he's playing real casual with the basketball — it's almost like he's sleepwalking through this."
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
4 fouls on Salmons.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Is it better or worse for the Lakers if Salmon's in the game?
by DexterFishmore on Dec 15, 2009 6:25 PM PST up reply actions
Depends on how Salmons is playing.
Craptain (sic) Kirk is the backup.
We miss you, Ben Gordon!
by Granny Waiters on Dec 15, 2009 6:28 PM PST up reply actions
maybe the finger is bothering him on FTs
by pedro_oliveira on Dec 15, 2009 6:26 PM PST up reply actions
His finger is bugging him, let there be no mistake.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
maybe more so on FTs. He looks fine from otherwise
by pedro_oliveira on Dec 15, 2009 6:28 PM PST up reply actions
I don't like the clear path call... Bulls had a guy on the other side of the floor ahead of Kobe.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Make up call on Kobe.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Wow, Gasol is being raped
and they aren’t calling it
Their points are ridiculous
Let’s see, Gasol has a post game. Garnett refuses to even go into the post.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
I missed that.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
It's absurd.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
At this moment, nobody is as good as LAL. But injuries can change that fast.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Like Neil Funk.
It’s absurd.
We miss you, Ben Gordon!
by Granny Waiters on Dec 15, 2009 6:34 PM PST up reply actions
Artest not making 3s is hugely concerning
when we play Boston, they are gonna force him to make those 3s along with all our other guys. If we dont make them Boston WILL beat us in a playoffs series GUARENTEED.
The book on him is you DON'T want him hitting those, otherwise he will try 4 more...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Maybe it’s time to change your signature :)
by Julio Nievas on Dec 15, 2009 6:34 PM PST up reply actions
All the Chad talk has pretty much quieted. No one is trading him.
by Julio Nievas on Dec 15, 2009 6:37 PM PST up reply actions
i see
i made that sig
cause plaschke was always ripping on him hehe
ill change it one of these days
Leave Chad Billingsley alone!!!
Plaschke is a clown
He’s only writes articles during the playoffs or if he wants to say something shocking.
He’s the guy that walks into the bar having never watched regular season games and starts talking about how bad your team is.
Then when they start winning he’s their biggest fan.
I hate Plaschke
I've seen him play way better in the post
but when 3 long guys are around you, its a bit hard
by Julio Nievas on Dec 15, 2009 6:35 PM PST up reply actions
Gotta leave you kids for a while
Have fun and be excellent to each other. Postgame report will be up later than usual, but it will be up.
I want you guys to be honest here....
take away your Laker homerism if you can and answer this unbiased: Do you think if we played Boston with both teams fully healthy, we would win or lose? I honestly dont know but I, even as a Laker fan would have to give the edge to Boston because I’m a guy who believes in defense first. Boston is gonna pack the paint in on us and force us to make contested 3s. This strategy worked to perfection in 08 which really scares me.
I think we have more firepower than Boston right now. You’re right, Boston plays great D, but our D is also well, maybe not top-notched, but it’s one of the best in the West. I understand why you would pick Boston though, they’ll be real difficult to beat in the Finals… right now anyway
by Julio Nievas on Dec 15, 2009 6:39 PM PST up reply actions
but we had possibly more firepower than Boston in 08
and they used a great defense to completely shut it down. Just sayin, they have the formula to shut us down offensively.
by desecrator09 on Dec 15, 2009 6:40 PM PST up reply actions
Yup
But we didn’t have Bynum, an extra big man.
by Julio Nievas on Dec 15, 2009 6:41 PM PST up reply actions
Then we would have LO or Gasol to help out
Since Bynum will cancel out perkins. Plus, we didn’t have Trevor 100%
by Julio Nievas on Dec 15, 2009 6:44 PM PST up reply actions
Trevor wouldnt be able to guard Pierce at all
remember how he just overpowered him when they matched up last year
by desecrator09 on Dec 15, 2009 6:45 PM PST up reply actions
They don't have
PJ Brown
James Posey
or Leon Powe anymore
Rondo still doesn’t have a jump shot. KG’s knees are stapled together, Doc Rivers is still awful.
Now that the Lakers know they won’t get any whistles they won’t be slapped in the mouth like last time. *See Regular season last year.
Not really
Our offense ran out of gas in the San Antonio series and was poor after that as well.
Big problem Boston has against us is that if you think we’re going to have a problem scoring on Boston, they’re going to have a much larger one.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
...scoring on us
Didn’t complete the thought.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
yeah but the Lakers have more length because when
they packed the paint it was up to Gasol and LO to box out KG and Perkins.
"These young guys are playing checkers. I'm out there playing chess" - Kobe
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Dec 15, 2009 6:43 PM PST up reply actions
they'll do that same strategy
against us this year and force us to make outside shots.
by desecrator09 on Dec 15, 2009 6:43 PM PST up reply actions
I'm less homery than most anyone here: Lakers in 6,
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
I agree on giving the edge to the better defensive team
The one thing though is that when the Lakers played Boston in 08 they didn’t have Ariza and Bynum. That is a huge difference. But as long as Bynum D’s up there is no way that team can beat this Lakers team. Although Boston has a better record the Lakers have had bigger margins of defeat. I think also if I remember correctly the Lakers had to play Mihm at some point and having Bynum is a huge upgrade. The biggest difference is going to be not to allow Rondo to penetrate.
"These young guys are playing checkers. I'm out there playing chess" - Kobe
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Dec 15, 2009 6:40 PM PST up reply actions
yeah I agree having Bynum is big
but I honestly think that Perkins will cancel him out. He’ll just body him up and out work him which worked alot in that one matchup between them in December 2007
by desecrator09 on Dec 15, 2009 6:42 PM PST up reply actions
December 2007
Difference between Bynum of then and Bynum of now is huge.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
Not really
His defensive style has always been the same. Bynum’s range is large enough to make Perkins’ physical style largely irrelevant.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
we'll see
guys who are physical with Drew often frustrate him
by desecrator09 on Dec 15, 2009 6:46 PM PST up reply actions
that's what i have been saying
and that is why I think that his D and length on the defensive end will be huge! All together, Perkins can’t guard Bynum on the offensive end.
"These young guys are playing checkers. I'm out there playing chess" - Kobe
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Dec 15, 2009 6:49 PM PST up reply actions
when you say cant guard Bynum
your really think that he’ll get 20 and 10 on him? I HIGHLY doubt that man. Your underselling Perkins’ defense.
by desecrator09 on Dec 15, 2009 6:50 PM PST up reply actions
Perkins doesn't have the size
And Bynum is solid out to 10-15 feet. This isn’t a matter of Perkins pushing Howard out of his range; Bynum will simply shoot over him.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
we'll see
i just dont see Bynum being as big a factor agains Boston as you guys think.
by desecrator09 on Dec 15, 2009 6:53 PM PST up reply actions
Perkins is a great defensive player
but Bynum’s offense is better
"These young guys are playing checkers. I'm out there playing chess" - Kobe
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Dec 15, 2009 6:53 PM PST up reply actions
for once we agree.
"These young guys are playing checkers. I'm out there playing chess" - Kobe
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Dec 15, 2009 6:45 PM PST up reply actions
so let's say they cancel each other out
that means that the other matchup is Gasol and KG and Gasol will kill him. The biggest strength they had was that they put Perkins on Gasol and now they can’t do that. They have to worry about a 2nd big man. So now KG will be forced to guard Gasol one one one.
"These young guys are playing checkers. I'm out there playing chess" - Kobe
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Dec 15, 2009 6:44 PM PST up reply actions
KG can guard Gasol
KG has looked fantastic lately and I think he’ll frustrate him alot.
by desecrator09 on Dec 15, 2009 6:45 PM PST up reply actions
not one one
KG two years ago yes.
"These young guys are playing checkers. I'm out there playing chess" - Kobe
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Dec 15, 2009 6:47 PM PST up reply actions
if you havent looked at his games recently
hes looked just as good as that KG
by desecrator09 on Dec 15, 2009 6:48 PM PST up reply actions
Actually
I think Gasol would frustrate Garnett, Garnett doesn’t have his knees like he did in ’07.
by Julio Nievas on Dec 15, 2009 6:48 PM PST up reply actions
we will win
cause there is no hoveround access for pierce at staples center…
Leave Chad Billingsley alone!!!
I believe the lakers have the advantage talent wise but
Boston plays with much more aggressively with more intensity and focus than we do. Until we stop getting lazy and play D for 48 minutes, I don’t see us winning
yeah I agree
you have to look past talent and look at defensive cohesion more
by desecrator09 on Dec 15, 2009 6:47 PM PST up reply actions
Please, no more shooting from Artest
dude can’t make a bucket tonight
You hate to see him hit a 3...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Colenel Sanders upset
his finger licking good offense not doing so good tonight…
Leave Chad Billingsley alone!!!
Hahaha
Chicago announcers think that Marquis Daniels can cover Kobe.
Please.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
and doug Christie
"These young guys are playing checkers. I'm out there playing chess" - Kobe
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Dec 15, 2009 6:46 PM PST up reply actions
11-5 Bulls run.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Shockingly so.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
I thought that was a bad call on Pau, but the WGN replay was definitive. Good call.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
I thought that was a bad call on Pau, but the WGN replay was definitive. Good call.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Heinrich injuries: left hand, right elbow, and an ankle.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
I suggest the Lakers get busy now.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Kobe is chucking.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Terrible failure at rebounding there.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Give him a break
15 boards isn’t enough?
by Julio Nievas on Dec 15, 2009 6:52 PM PST up reply actions
He’s rebounding merely because he’s tall. He’s not hustling for the rebounds he could get which is parly why the Lakers are giving up so many offensive rebounds. He’s also not boxing out his guy. Just because he does have rebounds, it doesn’t mean the box score accounts for all the rebounds he could have gotten or the ones he should have gotten.
no
your confusing that with bynum
gasol goes for them
bynum just prays the ball comes towards him
Leave Chad Billingsley alone!!!
No I’m pretty sure I know who Pau is and I know who Bynum is on the Lakers.
Oh and Pau’s guy Noah (who he should be boxing out) has 13 rebounds. 8 OFFENSIVE REBOUNDS. Do you have a ready made excuse for that too? Pau should, when he’s not rebounding, box out his guy. He isn’t doing that.
Have you even watched Pau he has been VERY underwhelming tonight, despite what the box score says. The box score lies sometimes.
pau has 15 boards
now bynum hasnt done anything
1 rebound still!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Leave Chad Billingsley alone!!!
that's the only thing he's doing
otherwise he’s been terrible
by pedro_oliveira on Dec 15, 2009 6:52 PM PST up reply actions
Pau is doing his best
He is expanding a lot of energy covering for Bynum since he’s not doing much
What? Pau isn’t playing very good defense. Have you noticed when the Lakers are on the defensive side and the Bulls miss a shot Pau is nowhere in the vicinity of grabbing a rebound? Where is he? I have no idea, but he hasn’t been in the vicinity for a rebound in awhile, especially when the Bulls went on a mini-run in that 3rd quarter.
were getting out rebounded
38 to 26
for offensive rebounds:
bulls: 13
lakers: 5
Leave Chad Billingsley alone!!!
Kobe has 36 already.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Artest 2/12
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
he should be kicked in the face
for every FGA from now on…
he looks terrible tonight
by pedro_oliveira on Dec 15, 2009 6:53 PM PST up reply actions
END OF THE THIRD: CHI 73, LAL 72
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Artest is concerning me
he absolutely HAS to make those open 3s that Trevor made in the playoffs or we will not win the title this year.
Ron Artest
I suck at shooting 3s tonight
but what the hell
let me shoot 6 more
Leave Chad Billingsley alone!!!
exactly
somebody needs to call him out
by pedro_oliveira on Dec 15, 2009 6:54 PM PST up reply actions
Does any team get blocked more than the Lakers?
How does that happen? They had 15 blocks against a few games ago against… I forget.
They’ve got 11 blocks against tonight.
Block magnets?
UPS
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
I wonder if Kobe being so aggressive in the begining
makes it harder for the other Lakers to get into the flow of the offense?
"These young guys are playing checkers. I'm out there playing chess" - Kobe
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Dec 15, 2009 6:56 PM PST reply actions
BOOM!!!!!!!!
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Air Shannon Brown
Clear for takeoff on runway 12R
Leave Chad Billingsley alone!!!
by shaqfor3 on Dec 15, 2009 6:57 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
Bulls never gave Brown a chance to show he could play.
We miss you, Ben Gordon!
by Granny Waiters on Dec 15, 2009 7:03 PM PST up reply actions
As soon as KB comes in the game
the offense breaks down. Stop dribbling so much KB!!
kobe -3 in the +/- category
ironically bynum is the best in that category
with a +10
Leave Chad Billingsley alone!!!
+/- doesn’t mean anything. During the Heat Lakers game Sasha was a +6 in roughly 40 seconds. He didn’t take or make a shot.
Ironic thing is he’s done a lot of dribbling on the shots he has taken. If dribbling is what your complaining about Shannon wouldn’t be a good option.
good point
but I’m just saying the offense looked good for the 4th quarter with him on the bench and then he comes in and dribbles too much and turns it over
by desecrator09 on Dec 15, 2009 7:07 PM PST up reply actions
The Lakers weren't really running the offense. Much of the offense has been created on the fastbreak,
off the dribble and three in the corner by Brown and Bynum’s and 1.
Exactly. Despite what the box score says that Pau has 15 or whatever rebounds, he hasn’t boxed out his man. He has been very underwhelming but people just like to use Drew as a decoy to complain about the lack of rebounding. Bynum is 22 and still learning, what’s Pau’s excuse? (despite all the excuses other people like to give him)
The Bulls Are Who We Thought they where
thats why you take the **** court. if you want to crown there @$$ crown them
YOU CAN PUT IT ON THE BOARD YES!
www.reverbnation.com/czheckproductions
I loved that press conference
fucking EPIC!
by desecrator09 on Dec 15, 2009 7:10 PM PST up reply actions
but they are who we thought they were!
Leave Chad Billingsley alone!!!
by shaqfor3 on Dec 15, 2009 7:10 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
This is one of Pau’s worst games in a Lakers uni
by pedro_oliveira on Dec 15, 2009 7:11 PM PST up reply actions
thank god
odom came back and didnt go to the heat
YOU CAN PUT IT ON THE BOARD YES!
www.reverbnation.com/czheckproductions
Pau has no reason to say hes not getting shots
the reason Kobe gets more touches is because he DEMANDS the ball by being active in the post. Pau just stands there sometimes and goes through the motions. If he really wants to get more touches hes gotta show he actually wants them by being aggessive ON THE COURT, not through the press.
Yeap. One of the things that really bugs me is that Pau always asks for more shots through the media after coming off a loss. He, rarely, if ever, says anything when the Lakers are winning. He’s not being aggressive and wasn’t aggressive in the game against Utah, so I did not like him thinking he warranted more shots when he was prone to turn hte ball over, get blocked, or go up with the ball weakly.
could be worse
we could be bulls fans
YOU CAN PUT IT ON THE BOARD YES!
www.reverbnation.com/czheckproductions
Don't remind me!
We miss you, Ben Gordon!
by Granny Waiters on Dec 15, 2009 7:15 PM PST up reply actions
might as well give the fans a show in this tough economy
lakers=benefit consumer
Leave Chad Billingsley alone!!!
Stacey King just said the Lakers have Mariano Rivera on their team in the name of
Kobe Bryant. Awesome!
The worst win we've had this season besides Miami
ugly, ugly game by pretty much everybody except shannon. Yeah, Kobe’s stats look good but hes forced up some bad shots that went in because hes great. But their still had shots and we should’ve worked to get better ones. And dont even get my started on the Defense and Rebounding
And if Kobe doesn’t force up those shots the Lakers lose. No one else stepped up on the offensive end. They forced Kobe to score the bulk of the points. Pau needed to step up (on offense) and he didn’t. His defense was poor as well.
Kobe needs to limit his turnovers though.
by intuitive on Dec 15, 2009 7:23 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
yeah i agree that the other players shoul've stepped up
but that doesnt justify Kobe taking bad shots. He shoud’ve got in their faces and told them to run the offense correctly
by desecrator09 on Dec 15, 2009 7:24 PM PST up reply actions
Whats the point in running the offense correctly if none of the guys can make a shot. Ball movement could have been better. Also, Kobe made the bulk of his “bad shots” you could say he’s just a good bad shot shooter.
yeah but Kobe is good enough to work for better shots even though hes good at making those bad shots
by desecrator09 on Dec 15, 2009 7:26 PM PST up reply actions
Whether its a good shot or bad shot, as long as it goes in, they’re both worth the same amount of points.
true but your more likely to make a good shot than a bad shot
look at Kobe’s FG% during tonights game and I’m sure its not as good as it could’ve or should’ve been
by desecrator09 on Dec 15, 2009 7:28 PM PST up reply actions
Over 50%. Hardly something to complain about especially because his shots were primarily jumpers.
The blame should go on everyone else for not stepping up. Pau was VERY underwhelming and showed no energy or hustle, especially on offense. He settled for baby jumper after baby jumper. He failed to box out his man (Noah) and got out rebounded by him. He ran to the offensive end of the court before the Lakers had even grabbed the rebound, hence Noah’s high number of offensive rebounds. The blame should go more on Pau for not showing up. The Lakers need him to play well or its an uphill battle. Kobe did his job, Pau (and everyone else too besides Shannon) didn’t.
yeah I agree there
but see my post below on how I think Kobe should try to get easier shots
by desecrator09 on Dec 15, 2009 7:32 PM PST up reply actions
he shot over 50%
I can’t believe you’re complaining about Kobe’s shooting. That’s the thing that won us the game.
by pedro_oliveira on Dec 15, 2009 7:32 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
im not complaining about his shooting
read my posts clearly and Im simply saying that he should use the triangle more often to get easier shots for both him and his teamates which will also reduce wear and tear on him
by desecrator09 on Dec 15, 2009 7:35 PM PST up reply actions
an example of this would be game 5 vs Denver in the WCF
when he hardly took any of those shots he took today and we tore up Denver
by desecrator09 on Dec 15, 2009 7:36 PM PST up reply actions
Some games Kobe has to do more and some games Kobe has to do less. Its dependent on how well Pau plays. If Pau plays well it makes things a lot easier, and if Lamar and the bench plays well forget it the Lakers are basically unstoppable. It comes with the territory. Again, Kobe did his job tonight. The blame should fall on everyone else.
agree that most of the blame goes on everyone else
but im just saying that I would like Kobe to go outside the triangle only when he absolutely has to which will happen alot against a team like Boston who can actually defend the triangle pretty well
by desecrator09 on Dec 15, 2009 7:39 PM PST up reply actions
Why are you complaining about Kobe when that, clearly, wasn’t the Lakers biggest problem tonight.
Kobe is the least of the Lakers problems right now.
I'm not complaining so much as suggesting something
just let me get that out alright.
by desecrator09 on Dec 15, 2009 7:42 PM PST up reply actions
Your complaining about something thats so minute when you need to look at the bigger problems first.
Look, I'm just saying something,
that I think would make us a more cohesive team offensively, IF EVERYONE ELSE STEPS UP. Dont think I’m totally ripping KB here because I’m not. Its just how i feel, its all opinion and you can disagree if you want.
by desecrator09 on Dec 15, 2009 7:45 PM PST up reply actions
I never said i was disagreeing. I was simply making the statement, that right now, that’s the least of the Lakers problems.
i agree its not a problem right now
but against the best defensive teams, it may, in my opinion, become a problem. Thats all I’m sayin alright??
by desecrator09 on Dec 15, 2009 7:47 PM PST up reply actions
And all I’m saying is if the Lakers don’t fix up their bigger problems then they will not play well against better teams.
alright??
lol you sound annoyed
I think that against Boston, this problem will become a “Bigger” problem. Remember in 08, when Kobe tried to make those tougher shots and he missed them almost all the time? Thats what concerns me. Also, remember when we beat Boston last year, KB didnt force those kind of shots and it was a total team game. THAT, is the correct way to beat a team like that. If we dont play that way, we WILL LOSE TO BOSTON. Okay go on your rant.
by desecrator09 on Dec 15, 2009 7:51 PM PST up reply actions
Except Kobe taking bad shots will be the least of the Lakers worries if Kobe accounts for just about half of the Lakers points.
Kobe plays a “team game” when the teammates around him step up. If they do so, Kobe will play a “team” game. If not he’s forced to take more shots, like he did tonight.
Thats what I've said from the beginning though
In order for that cohesive team to be successful, the other players besides Kobe, will have to be aggressive in their roles and be fully commited to those roles. If they do, then this brand of offense will make us unstoppable and will overwhelm the Celtics.
by desecrator09 on Dec 15, 2009 7:56 PM PST up reply actions
Well tonight they weren’t committed. For the 2914th time if they continue to do so (not being committed), Kobe forcing bad shots will be the least of the Lakers worries.
Okay I get that
and I agree for the 100000000th FUCKING TIME, that getting those players to be more aggesive in those roles they have is the #1 priority. Jesus, do you get me now??
by desecrator09 on Dec 15, 2009 7:58 PM PST up reply actions
we should worry about
getting our bigs (pau and bynum) to play cohesively. we won’t survive with both of tem being subpar like tonight and we’re not good enough with bynum being only an offensive weapon.
No, you implied that Kobe was part of the problem
When he’s part of the solution
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
by Gils_Keloids on Dec 15, 2009 8:14 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
he can be part of the problem if everyone doenst commit to their roles
includeing Kobe. you feel???
by desecrator09 on Dec 15, 2009 8:24 PM PST up reply actions
That's what we are disagreeing about
Kobe doesn’t cause the problem.
He does his best to fix it given what he is supplied with – if that means taking bad shots to win, then that is what he’ll do.
Pretty much, he does what’s best to help the team win. This has been confused so many times as “selfishness”, “ball hogging”, “chucking” and “forcing shots”, when what it really is is “doing what it takes to win the game”.
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
by Gils_Keloids on Dec 15, 2009 8:27 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
thank you!
and we’re not good enough with bynum being only an offensive weapon.
"These young guys are playing checkers. I'm out there playing chess" - Kobe
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Dec 15, 2009 8:12 PM PST up reply actions
It is what is is. Points are points. Some come within the offense and some don’t. It comes with the territory of being a fan of the Lakers and the type of game Kobe plays.
see post above
I think we’re a more cohesive team when Kobe plays like he did in that game and also game 6.
by desecrator09 on Dec 15, 2009 7:38 PM PST up reply actions
You only say that because during that game a lot of other players stepped up as well. Had they not, you wouldn’t be saying the Lakers played more cohesive.
The team is cohesive when everyone plays well, and that was definitely not the case tonight.
What part dont you get? Kobe has to do more and use more energy when the other players don’t step up. That was obvious tonight. He had to do more, take bad shots, and he made a lot of them. Maybe you should read my posts again.
i feel you okay
ive said first and foremost that in order for that cohesiveness to work, everyone has to be more aggressive. Okay I’m fucking tired now. PEACE
by desecrator09 on Dec 15, 2009 7:40 PM PST up reply actions
and they couldnt make a shot because
they werent running the offense correctly which if they did, they would get easier shots
by desecrator09 on Dec 15, 2009 7:26 PM PST up reply actions
Going inside out? The Lakers did a lot of that tonight actually. Pau got the ball in the post a lot, once he was double teamed he brought the ball out. They ran the offense. Kobe going outside of the offense has happened for a loooong time. It’s an accepted fact that has happened since he’s joined the Lakers, and will continue to happen in the future. No real reason to complain about that. Kobe is Kobe. You accept the great moments with the bad moments.
actually when Pau got the ball in the post,
all he did was pass it back out to Artest or someone else, even when he wasnt doubled. And as far as Kobe, yeah thats just how he plays but I just wish that he could take the opportunity to work for easier shots because he CLEARLY has the talent and intelligence to do that.
by desecrator09 on Dec 15, 2009 7:30 PM PST up reply actions
Sometimes his bad shots are his best shots. That’s just a compliment on Kobe. He has the ability to settle for bad shots and still make them, so why not? (that’s a rhetorical question btw, not one I actually want you to answer)
yeah that ability to make those bad shots is great
but I’m just saying if he can use the triangle more often, itll get easier shots for both him and his teamates and also use less energy
by desecrator09 on Dec 15, 2009 7:33 PM PST up reply actions
No, that's not entirely true. Pau wasn't strong with the ball during this game at all.
He was given plenty of opportunities to contribute in the post. The Bulls big men were physical and Pau didn’t handle particularly well during this game.
I know he wasnt
Ive already said that Pau needs to be agressive in the post
by desecrator09 on Dec 15, 2009 7:37 PM PST up reply actions
The better team won,
but at least my Bulls tried.
Beat the celtics for me, guys.
We miss you, Ben Gordon!
yup
look for Jennings to eat Fish alive
by desecrator09 on Dec 15, 2009 7:28 PM PST up reply actions
look for Shannon to play a lot more (so I hope)
by pedro_oliveira on Dec 15, 2009 7:30 PM PST up reply actions
Damn
Noah had 14 offensive rebounds…that can’t be right. Pau and Bynum should be ashamed..
pau didn't do a great job
though noah’s offensive rebounds are a bit inflated tonite. a lot of times it was noah: tap to rim, bound slighly off, tap again, bounce slightly off, and finally tap into basket or get loose-ball fouled.
Noah's offensive rebounding is one of the very few bright spots on the Bulls.
We miss you, Ben Gordon!
by Granny Waiters on Dec 15, 2009 7:55 PM PST up reply actions
Leave Gasol alone he did his job for the last 3 games double digit rebounds
Bynum was the biggest problem.
Pau was not good tonight.
NUMBERS LIE. The rebounds Pau got don’t indicate how many he let his defender get. It doesn’t indicate the defense he played and it doesn’t indicate the game he played.
looks like gasol was bad
There are basic Fundamentals that are needed to move forward in this game. Always keep your guard up at all times to avoid being caught in a trap. Overcome the fouls that will be commited against you REBOUND AND PRESS ON. ADJUST to the LimeLight: ALL-STAR PLAYERS ARE ALWAYS THE CENTER OF ATTENTION. Know what your role is and play your position. Find a game plan and execute it. REMEMBER YOU ONLY GET OUT OF THE GAME WHAT YOU PUT INTO IT.
Bynum was our only consistent scoring option tonight besides Kobe
And only played 25 minutes. Hard to see him as an endemic problem.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
Umm...do to bad time management, I missed yet another Laker game, I'm glad they won
but can anyone fill me in, Kobe seems to have had another great game and I was worried about his finger(shame on me)
There are basic Fundamentals that are needed to move forward in this game. Always keep your guard up at all times to avoid being caught in a trap. Overcome the fouls that will be commited against you REBOUND AND PRESS ON. ADJUST to the LimeLight: ALL-STAR PLAYERS ARE ALWAYS THE CENTER OF ATTENTION. Know what your role is and play your position. Find a game plan and execute it. REMEMBER YOU ONLY GET OUT OF THE GAME WHAT YOU PUT INTO IT.
he had a great first quarter
and that was really it. Shannon flew again but it was just an ugly win
tougher game to win than you may think
the bulls are much better than their record indicates. They are bound to bounce back at some point this season.
They were also coming off getting blown out on their own court to Boston.
The bulls wanted to win tonight much more than the Lakers did, and evidence shows that in all the hustle categories. In the end, the Lakers superior talent won the game for them though, with some amazing plays by Kobe, Lamar, and unexpectedly shannon brown. Also, give the assist to Derrick Rose for missing 2 layups in the final 3 minutes.
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
Thanks Ya'll
I’ll take the ugly win, I wished I recorded this game, hopefully Lakers look better vs. Bucks
There are basic Fundamentals that are needed to move forward in this game. Always keep your guard up at all times to avoid being caught in a trap. Overcome the fouls that will be commited against you REBOUND AND PRESS ON. ADJUST to the LimeLight: ALL-STAR PLAYERS ARE ALWAYS THE CENTER OF ATTENTION. Know what your role is and play your position. Find a game plan and execute it. REMEMBER YOU ONLY GET OUT OF THE GAME WHAT YOU PUT INTO IT.
thats kobe for you, you think he's down then all of a sudden, you just can't count him out
I’m glad he’s alright, the way the Lakers played these last 2 games, really tells you that the Lakers need Kobe.
There are basic Fundamentals that are needed to move forward in this game. Always keep your guard up at all times to avoid being caught in a trap. Overcome the fouls that will be commited against you REBOUND AND PRESS ON. ADJUST to the LimeLight: ALL-STAR PLAYERS ARE ALWAYS THE CENTER OF ATTENTION. Know what your role is and play your position. Find a game plan and execute it. REMEMBER YOU ONLY GET OUT OF THE GAME WHAT YOU PUT INTO IT.
Really?
Because everyone was telling me that Pau Gasol was the most important player on the team, and that the Lakers could win 50 games without Kobe. I knew that sounded funny …
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
by Gils_Keloids on Dec 15, 2009 8:22 PM PST up reply actions
dam!
who said that?
"These young guys are playing checkers. I'm out there playing chess" - Kobe
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Dec 15, 2009 8:36 PM PST up reply actions
You haven’t been around during the end of game threads have you?
Wins (and losses too) tend to bring out the outlandish remarks and BOLD (bold meaning “crazy”) statements.
nope!
I can’t believe someone would make that type of claim. But then again I made some pretty bold statements myself.
"These young guys are playing checkers. I'm out there playing chess" - Kobe
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Dec 15, 2009 9:29 PM PST up reply actions
btw...
I think that it is not other’s BOLD statments that surprises me. I don’t even think that someone’s opinion who is different than mine is crazy just because it is different than mine. What does surprise me is how personal some take it when they read something that is different than their own point of view. It is almost like they take it as a personal insult. That is what surprises me more than people’s bold statments. It’s funny that some may even hold a grudge behind it. : ) it’s just basketball.
"These young guys are playing checkers. I'm out there playing chess" - Kobe
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Dec 15, 2009 9:47 PM PST up reply actions
By the way
The Lakers did not cover the 10.5 point spread.
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
For all those non-Laker fans that think Kobe likes to parade and exaggerate his injuries so the media gives him love:
"If I ask him how his finger is doing he is going to strangle me," Artest said. "He is. When he is hurt you are not allowed to ask him how he is doing or you’re not allowed to ask are you OK. He gets very mad. Really. You think he is playing, but he is really serious. If something happens to him injury wise there is no sense to ask him. He’s a solider."
So how was his relationship with the triangle offense?
“It’s great. I take it on dates and everything,” Artest said. “Fine wine. A lot of romance. A lot of kissing up. Trying to get used to her and hopefully she’ll give me her number. I love the triangle.”
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-lakers-fyi16-2009dec16,0,6304039.story
Comments For This Post Are Closed
Secondary Sidebar
FanPosts
Community blog posts and discussion.
Recommended FanPosts
Recent FanPosts
Featured Stories
FanShots
Quick hits of video, photos, quotes, chats, links and lists that you find around the web.
Recommended FanShots
Recent FanShots
Certain photos copyright © 2010 by Associated Press or Getty Images. Any commercial use or distribution without the express written consent of Associated Press and Getty Images is strictly prohibited.
