The perfect storm for a loss
I'm not one for making excuses. They are usually unbecoming, and believing that you have a valid excuse for failure is usually the first step to actually failing. A team that holds itself accountable under any circumstances, regardless of the hardships faced, will be a better team because they will never give up in the face of adversity. I hope the Lakers are one of those teams. I hope they don't believe in excuses. I don't believe in excuses, but I do believe in reasons.
Reasons are the same as excuses, except without the context of acceptance. A reason explains why something unfortunate happened, an excuse explains it and absolves someone of blame or responsibility for causing the unfortunate event. Reasons are important, because without them we may never know how to prevent something unfortunate from happening again. Excuses are worthless because they seek to justify the unfortunate event, without necessarily addressing the event's prevention. However, in the face of so many reasons why the Lakers lost last night's game against the Jazz, I have to just come out and say it. The Lakers are excused for this loss.
Even though you are all aware of most of the reasons, let's go over them again just to get them all in one place- Kobe Bryant was playing his first full game with an avulsion fracture at the tip of the index finger on his shooting hand. That finger is in a "splint" made up of a thin rod of metal running along the finger, and a strong piece of plastic that the rod is attached to, which surrounds the finger. So Kobe is basically shooting the ball with an index finger that can't bend, and probably hurts like hell too.
- On top of that, he caught a stomach bug that had him visibly afflicted. He could barely get up and down in the 4th quarter, and shot terribly because he couldn't attack the rim, and couldn't get lift on his jumpshot. Another overlooked factor of this illness is that it prevented him from doing very much shooting before the game, and none at halftime. He's basically re-learning how to shoot on the fly, in order to compensate for the fracture, and he had no time to practice.
- They were playing the Jazz at home, never an easy proposition. Further, they just beat the same team 4 days ago, and beat them in a fashion that ended up making the Jazz feel humiliated. One of the best home teams in the league, filled with motivation to seek revenge, not 4 days from the previous game? Ouch.
- The Lakers were on an 11 game win streak, and while they didn't play lights out in every game, they really only played poorly in one of the victories. They were due for a poor effort.
- They played at 7:30 pm on Friday night, flew 600 miles to Salt Lake City, and then played at 6 pm the next night. Back to backs aren't necessarily worthy of an excuse, but back-to-backs in which you have to travel across two states and one timezone have a way of catching up to you. Just ask any Denver Nuggets opponent.
- On top of non game-related details, it was also just one of those nights where the Lakers couldn't make any shots, and the Jazz made a whole lot of theirs. The Lakers never got their shot going. 3-21 from the outside, and while some of that is on Kobe (who went 1-9 and tried to shoot the Lakers back into the game in the 4th quarter when he clearly didn't have the energy), but even without his poor performance, 2-12 is still terrible.
- The end shooting numbers balanced out for Utah, but Ronnie Brewer made a bunch of the outside shots that L.A. has made a policy of just giving him because his shot could well be the ugliest in the NBA. He ended the game 8-13 (with more than half coming from mid range or outside), and his 20 foot fade away at the buzzer sealed the game, and my opinion that the loss is acceptable.
Have you ever seen so many reasons why a team would struggle going into a game? Don't get me wrong, I understand it could have been worse. I understand that Kobe could have broken his whole hand, that they could be playing with 6 players like Golden State did earlier in the year. The whole team could have been playing with swine flu. There is always a worst-case scenario that is far beyond what will ever happen in reality. But I can't remember a single game in the past that had so many non-injury related factors going against the Lakers before tip-off even began. And despite all this, despite all the reasons why this should have been a duplicate of the road game against Denver and an absolute massacre, the Lakers only lost by 8. The game wasn't close down the stretch, it was a comfortable win for the home team, but the Lakers won the 4th quarter, which is a good show that they never gave up on the game.
Dex said in the post-game that it was clear that Kobe shouldn't have played, but I disagree. In the "hindsight is 20:20" category, it might have been a bad idea for Kobe to attempt to play like he always does, but I don't think playing in the game will make either of his conditions worse. And I certainly don't think that giving Kobe's minutes to Sasha would have made the Lakers effort stronger last night. Despite the horrible shooting and the defense which lacked energy, Kobe is still more of a threat than Sasha or Shannon Brown would have been. Without Luke Walton, the Lakers really only go 8 deep at this point, and the 8th player (UPS) hasn't really been providing a whole lot of late. The Lakers wouldn't have won without Kobe, and they could have won with him if they made a few more outside shots. So I think it was the right decision, and as long as Kobe doesn't look too weary Tuesday against Chicago, I'll stand behind it.
I told you all this ahead of time. Kobe's finger injury came at just the wrong time when we need a top-performing Kobe the most, so the Lakers may lose a few more games than we are comfortable with over the next month or so. Just keep telling yourself "We are the Champs". It's got to be good for something, right?
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Agreed.
The Lakers being as close as they were under the circumstances is a testament to the talent and the coaching this team has. So many other squads in the league, even good, talented ones, would have looked lost or gotten blown out in Utah. That’s not to say the team played superlative basketball outside of the conditions entering the game (the shooting numbers for both teams indicate as much), but this type of loss is far more preferable to the ones against Denver, Houston, etc.
I pretty much expected a loss for this game even before the game started
for exactly the reasons you stated. A “really bad game” to come along sometime soon.
I do hope they bouce back against the eastern teams these next two weeks, though.
Celtics road record: 11-1
We’re 3-2.
I know, I know, lighter schedule, worse opponents, etc. It’s still impressive. Our upcoming opponents are not the greatest, but we need to take the rest of the games. This league is so competitive and homecourt advantage is something we should strive for this year.
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but im not worried at all maybe im out of my mind but we are championsssssssssssssssssssss
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We're good....one bad game is all
After we got smashed by denver and lost to the Rockets the media wanted to make it out to be more than what it was and what followed? 11 game W streak….I want to see how we fair in january….We have a mean 8 game road trip includiing stops in Cleveland & Boston. Last year we went 6-0 when we had that trip that included both those teams, but this road trip next month will be a beast….Cant wait
"If your not first, then your last"
Ricky Bobby
but if kobe plays like he did against Utah
no energy on d and taking and missing a bunch of jumpers cause his finger is bandaged…
we are going to loose some games..
by matthewmafa on Dec 13, 2009 10:45 PM PST up reply actions
its in our best interest to bench him for chicago
though i doubt that will happen
cause he will say he can handle it
and Phil will believe him.
i dont want him to go out there and mess up his health further more.
maybe odom and er ummmm perhaps sasha might rise to the occasion.
Leave Chad Billingsley alone!!!
The end is more important then these upcoming road games
Phil needs to sit Kobe, have they not seen what happened to Boston trying to defend their title, Lakers need all pieces at the end to make a successful run so I vote for Kobe not to play anymore games till christmas, lets see what the rest of the Lakers are made of against sub-par teams for 5 games and give every hater a chance to see what a Kobe-less Laker team look like(thats not really a good reason) but Kobe healthy is really important. Lakers will get Utah back next time.
There are basic Fundamentals that are needed to move forward in this game. Always keep your guard up at all times to avoid being caught in a trap. Overcome the fouls that will be commited against you REBOUND AND PRESS ON. ADJUST to the LimeLight: ALL-STAR PLAYERS ARE ALWAYS THE CENTER OF ATTENTION. Know what your role is and play your position. Find a game plan and execute it. REMEMBER YOU ONLY GET OUT OF THE GAME WHAT YOU PUT INTO IT.
Keep things in perspective
KG’s knee falling apart due to age is not the same thing as Kobe getting sick or breaking his finger. Whether Kobe plays or not against Chicago will have nothing to do with his health going into the playoffs. The only reason to sit Kobe at this point is if they think that his play will actually be a detriment to the team, or if they think it will hamper his recovery. Clearly, the latter isn’t the case or he wouldn’t be playing, and the former is almost impossible because Sasha ain’t worth much these days.
In other words, he’s playing.
I guess I don’t have the same categorical faith that the team is always going to do what’s best for his recovery. They already made one mistake this year, in allowing Pau to practice before his hamstring was ready, thus prolonging the injury. So it’s not like they have a spotless track record. It’s possible the medical staff either misdiagnoses how much stress Kobe’s finger can handle or how well it can recover without total rest. Or, they could diagnose it correctly but be overruled by Phil, Kobe or whoever’s really making the final call.
I’m not arguing that any of these things is actually going on, only that the mere fact that he’s playing shouldn’t conclusively demonstrate that it’s the right decision from a medical standpoint.
by DexterFishmore on Dec 14, 2009 12:37 AM PST up reply actions
We don't disagree, or at least, not entirely
the mere fact that he’s playing shouldn’t conclusively demonstrate that it’s the right decision from a medical standpoint.
I don’t think there is any way that the decision to play him in Utah could be considered the right medical decision. When you’re sick like that, the correct course of action medically is a night in bed. But the illness is quite temporary, and the finger is not.
The Pau-Kobe comparison doesn’t quite work. A pulled muscle is a lot easier to underestimate the severity of, and when to come back is as much the player’s call as the doctor’s, because only the player knows when he’s pain free, and thus cured. It’s also the type of injury that you have to test it to see if it’s getting better, and there’s always the outside chance that the test causes you to re-aggravate.
With Kobe’s finger injury, the medical staff can clearly see with an x-ray how the finger is progressing. And I haven’t heard a single report from anyone, affiliated with the Lakers or not, who have said that playing with the injury poses significant risk of making it worse. Compare that with the pinky cartilage incident when there were tons of reports that Kobe needed surgery and not getting it was stupid. I have to believe that, if the finger were something that could get worse by playing with it, somebody would have told us so. Either everyone thinks that playing through this injury is OK, or nobody in the media is doing their job and asking outside opinions.
If he plays he plays and I have no problem with it, I'm sure Kobe can make the best decision for the team
but I just wouldn’t want this injury to come back or be a nagging injury through the year and bite the Lakers in the behind when it counts(The Playoffs) so I would bench Kobe, give him some rest, let that hand rest, something that will ensure the Lakers chances to repeat, that is all I’m saying.
There are basic Fundamentals that are needed to move forward in this game. Always keep your guard up at all times to avoid being caught in a trap. Overcome the fouls that will be commited against you REBOUND AND PRESS ON. ADJUST to the LimeLight: ALL-STAR PLAYERS ARE ALWAYS THE CENTER OF ATTENTION. Know what your role is and play your position. Find a game plan and execute it. REMEMBER YOU ONLY GET OUT OF THE GAME WHAT YOU PUT INTO IT.
Wondah will probably have this up in the credits tomorrow
http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2009/12/13/the-black-hole/
But this is a great read on Bynum. People need to remember that 1) he’s 22 2) it’s a growing process; he’s not going to get Pau’s skill-set through a sudden epiphany 3) he’s actually really, really, really good, and we should bitch slightly less about him, although as we’re Lakers fans, a bit of nitpicking is deserved I suppose.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
The level of abuse Bynum receives in our game threads baffles me. Is there another All Star-caliber player that takes anywhere near that much grief from his own team’s fans?
by DexterFishmore on Dec 14, 2009 1:21 AM PST up reply actions
I'm hard on Bynum for sure
It has nothing with him or not being good. It just has to do with his effort on the defensive end. That is pretty much it. But then again I have been hard on every Laker. But i’m also one of the first to defend him. It is mostly because I see him being the face of the franchise once Kobe leaves and I want to see him become that All Star that I know he will be.
"These young guys are playing checkers. I'm out there playing chess" - Kobe
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Dec 14, 2009 7:41 AM PST up reply actions
christ.....
finally something we agree on. I am going to buy a lottery ticket.
Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."
I think the game would be more interesting if Sasha would have played instead of Kobe because of his effort on defense and could have shoot a little better than Kobe’s 7-24… He could guard Matthews and Brewer the two players who killed us because Kobe was defending them and he had no energy at all… at least Sasha can do something and husstle in all the plays
The Spanish Kid
by Kobe:The Legend on Dec 14, 2009 7:30 AM PST reply actions
Doubt Sasha is better than a hobbled Kobe
He can’t defend without fouling, and as shown all season, he can’t shoot. Not much of an overall improvement.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
But at least he husstles and stays in all plays and can keep the other guys from shooting by staying beside them
The Spanish Kid
by Kobe:The Legend on Dec 14, 2009 9:30 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah, he hustles to get within two inches of his man
And proceeds to get burned nearly every time, which forces him to foul. He’s not stopping anyone any time soon.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
He also hustles to get within two inches of his woman
Sorry, couldn’t resist.
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
by Gils_Keloids on Dec 14, 2009 10:14 AM PST up reply actions
Agreed
And besides, letting Matthews shoot is bad defense. But letting Brewer shoot is the Lakers (or Kobe’s) chosen defensive strategy. They did it in the playoffs last year and it worked wonders. Granted, even if it wasn’t the strategy, it may still have happened in the game, because Kobe clearly didn’t have it. I just can’t kill him for letting Brewer take open shots in this game, because we haven’t killed him for letting it happen in other games, when Brewer missed all those shots. Brewer just made shots he doesn’t normally make at a high rate most of the time. It happens.
Okay read this and tell me you cant love this guy:
Artest knew that Kobe Bryant was sick and playing hurt.
Artest knew that Bryant was late to Saturday night’s game because of a stomachache and lacked energy.
Artest knew that Bryant also was playing with an avulsion fracture in his right index finger that had a splint on it.
"Kobe, he told me to get more aggressive and get in there," Artest said. "And [Pau] Gasol too told me to get in there."
Artest also tried to be a good teammate.
The Lakers were down by 17 points in the fourth when Jackson called a timeout.
Artest, who was on the bench resting, encouraged his teammates, clapping, putting his hand beneath his chin, motioning for them to keep their heads up
ilness and all
lakers was +6 when Kobe on the floor.

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