Clutchness

NBA.com article on clutchness. Props to Manu.

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i love stats. please link more stats articles

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by Justin N. on Nov 8, 2009 11:00 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

I can agree with Manu, but some of the people in the top 10 make me question the validity of that article. Kyle Korver? Corey Maggette? Mehmet Okur? All more clutch than Lebron, Kobe, Carmelo, or Wade? Roy not even in the picture? Really seems like bad interpretation of stats to me.

by grimmz on Nov 9, 2009 5:24 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

it just goes to show

stats when it comes to clutchness mean next to nothing. It’s a rare occurence with tons of variables.

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by Justin N. on Nov 11, 2009 1:38 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Justin

If you’re going to bash on stats, find a good reason.

Such as. These numbers don’t scale for the number of shots that a person takes. Yes efficiency is great, but you can’t have 5 starters on the team who average 8ppg on 60% shooting. 1-2 of them work, but you need someone who can put up points in quantity, even if it’s less efficient. That would be the main knock on Korver. He’s pretty efficient, but he’s taken a lot less shots than most of the top 20 and 1/3 of the shots of the big 4 that are mentioned. Would he be as efficient if he ha to be the main option? Probably not.

And as for rare occurrence. Some of these guys have taken 500+ shots in these “rare” situations. That’s not very rare at all.

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by Zaig on Nov 11, 2009 1:42 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

If you want Manu taking the last shot on your team, that's fine...

…I share the same opinion about these sort of stats that most bloggers do on this site. I know you know the story and have your own counter-arguments ready so it’d probably just be a waste of time me trying to hash it out here. A list like this can work if you’re rating players based on how good they are at free throw shooting, but by “clutchness”? I don’t buy it..

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by Justin N. on Nov 12, 2009 11:56 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Well, I’d be ok with Manu taking the shot, but not Korver, definitely not Corey Maggette or Mehmet Okur.

by grimmz on Nov 13, 2009 11:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

fewer shots, not less

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by Gils_Keloids on Nov 14, 2009 10:52 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Man I wish they kept these stats in the eighties and nineties

I wouldn’t be surprised if Michael Jordan and Larry Bird weren’t on the top 10 of these lists. The top would be littered with names like Kelly Tripuka, Steve Kerr, and Antoine Carr.

"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson

by Gils_Keloids on Nov 14, 2009 10:55 AM PST reply actions 1 recs