Game Preview: Double Feature (updated)
Before the season began, the great minds behind Silver Screen and Roll came together to figure out what kind of posts we wanted to have throughout the season. We decided on an ambitious schedule that calls for three different posts for every game, a preview, a post game, and Timbo's infamous View. That, combined with game threads, would give us the most comprehensive Lakers coverage on the net. The only problem with that schedule is the back to back. Whenever the Lakers play two games in two nights, planning posts is a bit like playing Tetris. So, to solve this problem, the preview ahead of a back to back will tackle both of the upcoming opponents at once. Consider this the straight piece you've been waiting on forever, the one that finally lets you clear all four lines. On to the preview(s):
What's up with the Lakers (2-1, 2nd Pacific, 102.3 OR, 101.9 DR, 96.8 Pace)
By far the biggest news in Lakerland is the word that Pau Gasol's injury might be worse than initially diagnosed. Instead of a strained hamstring that always made it seem like Gasol was just one game away, a sonogram has shown that the strain may, in fact, be a slight tear, which would see Gasol miss a maximum of six weeks. A sonogram isn't the best tool to diagnose this injury with, just the one that provides the fastest results. Gasol also underwent an MRI that will be much more official, but the results of that test won't be known until later today. Either way, Gasol is almost certainly not going to play in the next two games, and could miss a great deal more under the worst case scenario.
There's no way to look at this news as other than a big blow to the Lakers. The Lakers haven't exactly looked spectacular with Gasol out of the lineup.No, they aren't going to miss the playoffs, but a significant amount of time missed by Gasol could hurt their chances at getting home-court advantage throughout the playoffs, especially considering the torrid pace that the Celtics and Magic have displayed (albeit in only 4 games). Another, lesser, concern is that it will be that much longer before the Lakers have the chance to fully integrate the entire team. I don't think Gasol will take much time to get back in the swing of things, and I don't foresee any further Ron Artest integration issues added when Gasol returns, but you like to have your team be as comfortable with each other as possible, and that can only happen by playing together. If this is the only major injury the Lakers have all year, it'll end up not being a big deal, and it could end up being beneficial by forcing some other players to step up. That said, it's not the way you want to start your season.
Getting back to the team's performance, the Lakers finally put together a game to be proud of in their 118-100 defeat of the Atlanta Hawks. It may not have been overly dominant, but for the first time this season, there were flashes of dominance. Check that, one very big flash, via the Lakers 18-0 run midway through the 3rd quarter. It was very nice to see the Lakers turn on the jets and really mow a decent team down, despite the fact that the bench once again proved to be incapable of holding the big lead. A 22 point lead at the beginning of the 4th quarter became a 14 point lead half way through, forcing Phil Jackson to put the starters back in to seal the win. The starters lost another 6 points off the end tally, but the result was never in doubt. Perhaps more important than the end result, the Lakers finally put together an offensive performance that could be described in more positive terms that "an embarassment".
After the jump, find out what's up with the Oklahoma City Thunder and the Houston Rockets. And match-ups, of course.
What's up with the Thunder (2-1, 2nd Northwest, 101.1 OR, 96.6 DR, 88.0 Pace)
Oklahoma City enters tonight's game sporting the same record as the Lakers, 2-1. They opened the season with a win against Sacramento and a somewhat impressive road win at Detroit before losing to the Trailblazers in a game that our own resident Blazer lover, Timbo, described as a "dismal exhibition of competitive pooping." They have had success with strong defense and they play at the 3rd slowest pace in the league. The Thunder are still a very young squad, and it should come as no surprise that they will have significant ups and downs. Anything less than a significant up against the Lakers should see them walk away from this game with a loss.
What's up with the Rockets (3-1, 1st Southwest, 111.1 OR, 107.6 DR, 94.3 Pace)
I think it's fair to say that the Houston Rockets are probably the biggest surprise of the young season so far. Many pegged them to struggle this year, without either of their big name super stars (Yao and Tracy McGrady, in case you forgot). Their active roster seems to be comprised of almost entirely role players. And yet, they are off to a strong start, including wins over Portland and at Utah. They've done it with torrid outside shooting. The Rockets have put up 87 3PT shots through 4 games, tied for 2nd in the NBA, and they are connecting at almost 45%. Whether that pace can be kept up remains to be seen, but the Rockets have shown time and time again that adversity is their best friend. The Rockets seem to constantly be underrated and this year is no exception.
The match-ups with the Thunder (updated)
Lakers starting 5: Andrew Bynum, Lamar Odom, Ron Artest, Kobe Bryant, Derek Fisher
Important bench players: Jordan Farmar, Shannon Brown, Sasha Vujacic, Luke Walton, Josh Powell, DJ Mbenga
Thunder starting 5: Nenad Krstic, Jeff Green, Thabo Sefalosha, Kevin Durant, Russel Westbrook
Important bench players: Etan Thomas, Nick Collison, James Harden, Kevin Ollie
[Update: Kobe is questionable tonight with flu like symptoms. I'm still including him in the starting lineup, because we all know it would probably take a tranquilizer gun to keep the Mamba out of a game, but even if he does play, he probably won't be 100%. Not good news, especially going into a back to back.]
On most nights, the Lakers' biggest advantage over their opponents is length. Against the Thunder, that's not necessarily the case. The Thunder have quite a bit of height in their starting lineup, actually a bit more than the Lakers when averaged out over every position. But that length does not come along with the requisite size. Krstic is 7 feet, but gives up about 40 pounds to Bynum. Durant is 6'9", but he gives up 50 pounds (at least) to Ron Artest. So, despite the fact that the Thunder would, on paper, seem to be OK on length, the Lakers' best option should be to pound the Thunder down low with anybody and everybody. Bynum should be on the block, Odom should be on the block, Artest and Kobe too. This is a team that the Lakers should be able to beat up.
Off the bench, the Thunder have two workmanlike, if not very special, forwards in Thomas and Collison. Harden is a rookie, and may turn into a solid pro, but he hasn't done much yet early in his first season. Ollie plays almost 15 minutes a game, but provides very little. If you think the Lakers bench is a liability, check out this unit. The Thunder bench is good for only 13 points a game. I'm not doing the research to verify, but I would guess that's amongst the worst bench production in the league. If ever there was a game where our bench should be able to be a significant (positive) factor on a game, this is it.
For the Lakers bench, look to see if anything comes about from a recent article in which Jordan Farmar requested that the guard rotation be shortened from 3 guards off the bench to 2 guards off the bench. While some who are more pessimistic regarding Farmar might see this request as yet another sign that Jordan doesn't get it, supposedly Farmar made the request knowing full well that he might be the one left with the short end of the stick. Even if that's the case, Farmar says that a shorter rotation would help better define roles and create more consistent play from the guards. I couldn't agree more. Phil Jackson also agrees, and says that the rotations will be shortened, but that he needs a few more games to evaluate who's going to have their minutes reduced to almost nothing.
The match-ups with the Rockets
Lakers starting 5 and bench: See Above
Rockets starting 5: Chuck Hayes, Luis Scola, Trevor Ariza (sniff), Shane Battier, Aaron Brooks
Important bench players: Kyle Lowry, Carl Landry, Chase Buddinger, David Anderson
Tell me this game doesn't scare you. It sure as hell scares me. This is basically the same team that the Lakers had so much difficulty with in the playoffs last year. Just take out Ron Artest (who killed the Rockets with bad shots in last year's playoffs) and replace him with Trevor Ariza (who is shooting absolutely lights out in the early season). I remain positive on the Artest for Ariza psuedo-trade, and I don't want to go over why again, but it would be foolish to say that Houston isn't getting the better end of the deal so far in this young season. Regardless of why you think it took the Lakers 7 games to dispatch the Rockets in last year's playoffs (complacency, boredom, etc), those factors are all very much in play for this game. 2nd night of a back to back? Against a team that doesn't look formidable on paper? A team that's given the Lakers problems in the recent past? Yeah, I'm scared of this game.
On paper, I shouldn't be scared. The Lakers size advantage here is ridiculous. The Rockets starting center is 6' freaking 6". They don't have a single guy on their active roster over 6'9". The Lakers should be able to kill this team in the middle, with Bynum having a field day and the Lakers dominating the glass. But we've seen it not happen far too often to assume that it will happen in this game. Also, there's the little fact that the Rockets employ two of what I like to call Lakers' Kryptonite. I'm speaking of course, of the quick guard. Houston has Aaron Brooks, who is one of the quickest guards in the league, and Kyle Lowry off the bench. Lowry isn't super quick, but he is super strong and above average in quickness, capable of barreling into the lane for easy points. Brooks is 5'9", but can still get his shot up on anybody. The Rockets will treat the Lakers to a steady dose of pick and roll, with a lot of kick outs to open three point shots. As mentioned above, the Rockets love them some 3 point shots, and that love is mutual.
The most interesting factor about this game will be how Artest and Ariza handle going up against their former clubs. Both players have, in their minds at least, reason to feel slighted and thus might be playing this game with a chip on their shoulder. Artest has already stated that he won't be trying to score against the Rockets at all, he'll just be looking to shut someone down. Ariza, on the other hand, has been white-hot on offense and will be looking to show the Lakers they made a big mistake by not waiting to pull the trigger on the Artest signing. If Ariza can keep his emotions in check and play within himself, he'll probably have a decent game, even with Artest hounding him. But if he lets the moment get to him, this could be something that is advantage Lakers.
Two road wins on a back to back would go a long way towards dissipating any negative vibes the Lakers have from their sloppy start to the season. Anything less, and there will be even more "Are the Lakers going to be OK?" talk.
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hey guys give me your opinion on this NBA.com article
Blabber: “Yo, son … I know the Lakers are only six-deep, but they’re fine.”
Verdict: Under-reaction
Reason: There’s a potential problem brewing in L.A. We keep expecting for Jordan Farmar to get back to that pre-injury “promising young point guard” that we saw the past couple years. And we keep waiting for Sasha Vujacic to get his stroke back. And we keep hoping that Luke Walton plays like a guy that deserved the $30 million contract he signed in 2007. But none of that is going to happen.
So here’s what the Lakers have: Kobe, Pau Gasol, Lamar Odom, Ron Artest, Andrew Bynum and Derek Fisher. That’s six players, all of whom will be 30 years old by playoff time (well, Gasol turns 30 in July). In order for L.A. to be L.A. for a championship run, Phil needs to keep Fish’s minutes around 30 and Kobe’s around 36-38. Here’s the thing — with a bench that doesn’t feature a competent backup PG or a wing player taller than 6-foot-5, the Lakers are looking at a bench where Odom (when Gasol returns) is the only player worthy of cracking the rotation. Did you see the way the L.A. bench nearly squandered a 24-point lead in Sunday night’s game against the Hawks? It’s atrocious. L.A. got away with this baloney last season, but the real-deal squads got realer this summer and Kupchak needs to be on the phone looking to fortify this bench".
I unfortunetely have to agree with this article. I suggest we go after either a tough PF-Center (a la Kurt Thomas), an athletic, defensive wing player, or a dead eye shooter.
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This is pretty much my thinking.
Lakers have a terrific core, we all agree on that.
Of which, Fisher is on the other side of the big hill…
Due to their strong finishes, the draft situation sucks.
Due to the gargantuan contracts (Kobe, Pau, Bynum, LO, and Ron Ron), the cap situation sucks.
The role players, such as they are, are generally overpaid to the point of being untradeable (Luke, Morrison (!!!), Sasha), so the team is stuck with them.
The correctly compensated bench guys (Farmar, UPS) are the guys you DON’T want to be making go away.
You’ve also got guys on the bench that you really need going forward who are gonna be walking due to not enough money in the kitty to pay them right (Mbenga, Powell).
It’s not a very nice situation.
Everything is swell if the main core stays healthy. And if Jordan and UPS step up and more or less take over for Fish.
But it’s real easy to see how the wear and tear of a normal NBA season, not to mention the freak injuries that can and do happen, might really damage the team’s prospects.
The Western Conference is as tough as ever. None of this is gonna get any easier.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
If the Bulls are really serious about going after Wade or Bosh, they might be interested in shipping out Hinrich and not re-sign Thomas (he didn’t get a contract extension from them today). If you would e.g. package Fisher and Vujacic or Farmar, Morrison and Powell they might go for it.
But slowly things happen that they cannot help and the Blazers Fellowship of the Ring begins to break apart
There's no way they trade either Hinrich or Thomas for expiring contracts. They're in the hunt.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
BTW, Bynum is younger than 30.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Substitutions killing the Lakers...
“Even if that’s the case, Farmar says that a shorter rotation would help better define roles and create more consistent play from the guards. I couldn’t agree [C.A.]more. Phil Jackson also agrees, and says that the rotations will be shortened, but that he needs a few more games to evaluate who’s going to have their minutes reduced to almost nothing.”
I agree as well. I think there is an odd man out somewhere between Sasha, Farmar, and Brown. However, I think PJs reluctancy to stick with the starters until the 2 minute mark in the 1st and 3rd qtr are just as detrimental. Here’s why, there are no scoring threats to start the 2nd and 4th quarter when the bench is emptied. The combo of Famar, Brown/Vujacic, Walton, Powell, and Mbenga is not going to scare anyone to drive the lane, move well without the ball, etc. This unit is one-dimensional.
With LO or Artest off the bench we get 2 players who move well without the ball and can attack you in multiple ways.
I’d recommend two things until we get Gasol back:
1) Start substitutions at the 5 minute mark of the 1st and 3rd quarters leaving at least 2 starters on the floor at all times. Other teams do this, use them as a benchmark. Who knows, maybe the problem isn’t 3 guards coming off the bench, but how they are rotated into the game at the end of the 1st and 3rd quarters.
2) Start Walton. Artest can be the main man off the bench. He was the man in Houston and was a great #2 option in Sacramento. Walton’s defense has been legitimate since last year’s playoffs (aside from the 1st 2 games against Denver). He offers similar offensive weapons as Artest, but just not as strong. I don’t think we’d see much drop off since Artest is the 4th scoring option on this team right now.
Uh-Oh
Per Mike Trudell:
Kobe Bryant has a fever and a sore throat, and is currently listed as “questionable” for tonight’s game vs. OKC.
I think he will play.
"When I walked into the locker room on my first day as a Laker and saw my gold uniform hanging there, I cried." - Magic Johnson (Best Laker Ever)
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Nov 3, 2009 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
Get well soon Kobe!
Didn’t the league issue new guidelines for dealing with H1N1 (swine flu) this summer? If he has a fever I can’t see them letting him play unless they are able to rule out H1N1.
If he does have it he could be sick for awhile (like a week). The schools round here won’t let you return until you are free of fever for 24 hours. At that point you are no longer contagious.
Let’s just hope the rest of the team doesn’t get it too.
And yes I am a 2009 World Champion Fan.
by olf on Nov 3, 2009 2:29 PM PST up reply actions
Olf
good point. There is no way the NBA will let him play.
"When I walked into the locker room on my first day as a Laker and saw my gold uniform hanging there, I cried." - Magic Johnson (Best Laker Ever)
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Nov 3, 2009 3:08 PM PST up reply actions
that just means
kobe will drop 50 insted of 25
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Concerning the Thunder bench...
Our starters have played a crap load of minutes the last few games. I’m not sure what Brooks is trying to accomplish. Harden dropped 8 assists pretty quickly against the Pistons. Ibaka is a raw athletic shot-blocker and should be respected by the offense.
Concerning the starting 5: Durant and Westbrook had a double double their first two games. Both Durant and Westbrook had off nights on Sunday. Green is very versatile for a PF. He is usually a handful for most PF’s to contain, but Odom’s own versatility should able to match Green. Krstic has a decent midrange shot, but is a push over as a center. If Westbrook can produce some decent looks for Krstic expect 15 points.
Someone won’t be 2-1 after tonight. I hope it is a good game.
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The Suns are leading the West roflcopter
I still think it’s pretty evident how much the Lakers need a healthy Pau compared to a healthy Drew.
This isn’t a knock against Drew, it’s just an observation of how Pau truly is such an efficient player for our offensive system.
We could win the chip with a healthy Pau and a subpar Drew … but I don’t think we can with it all with a healthy Drew and a subpar Pau …
It’s why I’m predicting we’ll definitely have a lot of losses against young teams geared up to play us during the beginning of the season. Instead of the 73 win dream people wanted (not that it was ever going to happen)
But injuries are a part of the season. The 2001 Lakers had tons of injuries that year with Shaq, Kobe and Fish – we were 2nd overall in the west and look how dominant we were in the playoffs when everyone returned.
This season probably won’t go as smoothly as last year’s for sure (except for Drew’s deja vu, we were definitely fortunate in the injury department last year). So expect some early losses, but once Pau get’s back, we should be fine again.
Lakers 2009 Road to Redemption: TREVOR, DEREK, LAMAR, PAU & KOBE.
Play the game of which Lakers reminds you of: TA - TI, Shannon Brown - Chris Brown, Pau Gasol - Jesus, Machine - Luis Scola/Russell Brand, PJ with mustache and beard - Colonel Sanders.
by PeanutButterSpread on Nov 3, 2009 3:17 PM PST reply actions
regarding Houston
There style reminds me of run and gun + defense, no?
It will be a very difficult Houston game, especially with Trevor being back and wanting to torch us for not resigning him :(
Lakers 2009 Road to Redemption: TREVOR, DEREK, LAMAR, PAU & KOBE.
Play the game of which Lakers reminds you of: TA - TI, Shannon Brown - Chris Brown, Pau Gasol - Jesus, Machine - Luis Scola/Russell Brand, PJ with mustache and beard - Colonel Sanders.
by PeanutButterSpread on Nov 3, 2009 4:13 PM PST reply actions
trap game there
the rockets without yao on the road just killed us
they did have artest…but with ariza taking on a new role there
theyre going to run and gun down the floor like in the playoffs…
must reduce those fastbreak points
tonight too…thats a concern…
When I look at Boris Diaw, I think of Beethoven and the age of the romantics... -The Great Bill Walton
Agreed
There’s gonna be a lot of factors against us … b2b, ariza motivation, rockets determination, run and gun play, defensive, crappy bench play, no pau, etc etc.
Lakers 2009 Road to Redemption: TREVOR, DEREK, LAMAR, PAU & KOBE.
Play the game of which Lakers reminds you of: TA - TI, Shannon Brown - Chris Brown, Pau Gasol - Jesus, Machine - Luis Scola/Russell Brand, PJ with mustache and beard - Colonel Sanders.
by PeanutButterSpread on Nov 4, 2009 12:01 AM PST up reply actions
I'm torn on what game to watch until Lakers starts
Cavs Wizards or Celtics Sixers
Cavs Wizards
It’ll at least be a ball game lol (early at least)

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