Lakeshow Episode 09: The View from Denver
So Friday night it was the Lakers' turn to assume the position, grabbing their ankles while tattooed young Denver hoopsters took turns swinging the aerodynamically-optimized paddle against the gold-clad backsides of their fellows.
The Lakers scored just 8 points in the 3rd Quarter! EIGHT!!! They followed that up with just 15 points in the 4th Quarter... That's 8 + 15 = 23 points for an entire half!!!
Yikes.
The Friday Flop put the humiliation of an exhausted Phoenix Suns team by the Lakers just 24 hours previous into an entirely different light, did it not? Home court advantage and vitality-sapping back-to-backs are very real phenomena, negative forces to be reckoned with. The Lakers are subject to such negative forces just like every other team. They are not above the laws of nature, superhuman and invincible.
Losing at Denver the way that the Lakers did is embarrassing, to be sure, but it remains only one loss in a long season. Only Reggie Miller is SHOCKED that Kobe's Krew has dropped 2 of their first 9 games. It is normal, natural, and expected — and it could easily have been worse. Recall, if you will, that the Lakers were taken to overtime by Oklahoma City and Houston. A couple missed free throw attempts during those games and the Lakers would now be 5-4 in the midst of one of the softest opening schedules ever played by a professional basketball team not based in Harlem.
This season has advanced far enough that some clarity on the relative strengths of one team to the next is starting to emerge. I watch a ton of Western Conference basketball and I've whipped up a "Top 8" power ranking for y'all. Please click on through for that.
Timbo's Western Conference Power Rankings
Version 1.0 — November 14, 2009
1. Denver Nuggets (7-3).
Key victories: At Portland; At Chicago; Home vs. LA Lakers.
All losses: At Miami; At Atlanta; At Milwaukee.
Who they're missing: Nobody.
Comments: Carmelo Anthony has emerged as a legit Top 5 NBA superstar and the Nuggets are the only team in the Western Conference hitting on all cylinders on a consistent basis. Nene is one of the conference's top Bigs, Kenyon Martin is tough, Chauncey is a terrific floor general, and Ty Lawson looks to be one of the top 3 rookies in the NBA this season, Aaron Brooks redux. Head Coach George Karl is smart, Denver's home court advantage is nasty — what else do you need???
2. Los Angeles Lakers (7-2).
Key victories: At Houston; Home vs. Phoenix.
All losses: Home vs. Dallas; At Denver.
Who they're missing: Pau Gasol (starting Big).
Comments: The Lakers' bunny-soft early season schedule should have been printed in pink ink on pastel yellow paper. They've still got another dozen or so games coming against a mostly soft slate, only one of which is on the road. Then from the middle of December until the All-Star break, the schedule grows fangs and the losses will mount fast. LA needs to get Pau back and to stay healthy, because they're not deep. One unspoken thing is clear: a serious injury to the superstar of this Kobe-centric konstellation would be a kill-shot on the season. Andrew Bynum seems to be emerging as the premiere offensive Center in the league and Ron Artest has done a nice job defensively and played within the offense. Point Guard Derek Fisher is old and slow, but the Lakers have gobs of great Bigs and the #1 Wing in the Universe and will be fine if they can keep their limbs intact.
Key victories: At Miami; At Boston.
All losses: At Orlando; At LA Lakers.
Who they're missing: Robin Lopez (reserve [?] Big).
Comments: Left to their own devices, leaking out and running like wild things, the Phoenix Suns are one of the most explosive and dangerous teams in the West this season. This past off-season Steve Nash apparently has signed a lifetime training and personal services deal with Beelzebub Sports Marketing — he's baaaaaa-aaaack, doing his thing at MVP caliber. Jason Richardson is the king of the universe sneaking out on breaks, Amar'e has been back in form, and if you give this team open 3s, they will bury them and you. Still, with nice guy/pussyboy Channing Frye as their nominal "Center," it's hard to see this track squad going anywhere slogging through the grind 'em out halfcourt sets of the playoffs. Then again, they'll get Robin Lopez back, so maybe that's moot. A tough opening schedule has been overcome with an astonishingly fast start, but look for the Suns to falter as the rest of the league starts to figure out their D'Antonian tricks.
4. Portland Trailblazers (7-3).
Key victories: Home vs. Houston; Home vs. San Antonio.
All losses: Home vs. Denver; At Houston; Home vs. Atlanta.
Who they're missing: Nicolas Batum (Starting Wing). **ADDENDA (11/14): Travis Outlaw (backup 3/4).
Comments: The Blazers now have the longest current winning streak in the NBA, undefeated since Brandon Roy was moved to Small Forward. Nevertheless, this is a transitional lineup and the Blazers will remain a midlevel playoff team until they can get the final lineup established and clicking and demonstrate that they can beat good teams on the road. Probably the deepest team in the West, 13 guys on the roster that can play, Portland has the potential to survive back-to-backs more effectively than any of their peers. Brandon Roy has taken half a step back so far this year, but Greg Oden is emerging as the premiere defensive Center in the Western Conference and LaMarcus Aldridge has Portland fans saying, "Chris Bosh, who?" The Blazers match up with the Lakers better than any other team in the West and it would not be a surprise to see that as the WCF matchup this season if Portland figures out how to dodge the Nuggets.
5. Dallas Mavericks (6-3).
Key victories: At LA Lakers; Home vs. Utah; Home vs. Toronto; Home vs. Houston.
All losses: Home vs. Washington; At New Orleans; At San Antonio.
Who they're missing: Nobody. ** ADDENDA (11/14): Josh Howard (starting Wing).
Comments: If the Lakers are Kobe-centric, the Dallas Mavericks live and die with the performance of the Large German Man. The freakishly good Dirk Nowitzki has already singlehandedly willed his team to victory against Utah and has been racking up points and rebounds at his usual superstar clip (25.8 and over 9, respectively). Jason Kidd is superannuated, but the team has been getting terrific performances out of Jason Terry and decent output from newcomer Shawn Marion. With the return of Josh Howard, the Mavs are starting to look like a decently-stacked playoff team. When they get hot they can beat anyone, but the season all depends on Dirk for them. Stop him and you stop them.
6. San Antonio Spurs (4-3).
Key victories: Home vs. Toronto; Home vs. Dallas.
All losses: At Chicago; At Utah; At Portland.
Who they're missing: Tony Parker (starting PG); Tim Duncan (starting Big).
Comments: The most surprising thing about the Spurs this year is that they didn't fold like an accordian getting run over by a dumptruck when Tony Parker went down with a sprained ankle and Grandpa Bankshot missed action due to chronic oldness. The addition of Richard Jefferson has paid dividends and Manu Ginobili has demonstrated the stupidity of opposing coaches who fail to guard Manu Ginobili. Tony Parker is the catalyst for this team, that much is clear. It is also clear that there is no way that Grandpa Bankshot is going to be able to play an 82 game schedule. Think of him as a rather less mobile Shaquille O'Neal, who is also less intimidating. But he can still knock down that 12 footer off the glass. He can hit that shot with the off-hand, with his eyes closed, standing on one foot, while humming Michael Jackson songs. If H-O-R-S-E ever becomes a professional sport, look for Tim Duncan to extend his career by another 23 seasons.
7. Houston Rockets (5-4).
Key victories: Home vs. Portland; At Utah.
All losses: At Portland; At LA Lakers; At Dallas; At Sacramento.
Who they're missing: Tracy McGrady (starting Wing); Yao Ming (starting Big).
Comments: The Rockets are like a dozen harmony singers, all missing their lead vocalist. They're Gladys Knight and the Pips without Gladys Knight... (Who the hell wants to pay money to watch The Pips?) A team with former Laker Trevor Ariza (19.4 pts.) and Aaron Brooks (16.7 pts.) as its main scoring threats is clearly missing pieces in a big way. Nevertheless, the Rockets have shown themselves to be a playoff-worthy team by sticking with the system, defending like their lives depend upon it, and playing ball together. The whole truly is greater than the sum of the parts with this club — in some ways they are the exact inverse of the Memphis Grizzlies. But with Yao Ming out for the year with chronic foot problems and Tracy McGrady maybe perhaps hopefully coming back from microfracture surgery (or not), it's hard to envision much more for the Rockets than a 5 game exit from the first round of the playoffs this season. However, watch out for GM Daryl Morey — he's a tricky son of a bitch and he still has time...
8. Utah Jazz (4-5).
Key victories: Home vs. San Antonio.
All losses: At Denver; Home vs. Houston; At Dallas; Home vs. Sacramento; At Boston.
Who they're missing: Nobody.
Comments: The Utah Jazz are unquestionably the one team of the Top 8 most likely to implode. They are a small market franchise deep in Luxury Tax Hell and desperately needing to make one of their top offensive threats, Carlos Boozer, go someplace else for pennies on the dollar before the trade deadline. Their decision to match Portland's offer for the services of Paul Millsap is looking questionable. They have looked very beatable even at home this season (dropping a game to Sacramento, no less) and they've been manic-depressive on other nights, either playing lights-out or appearing to be in need of a visit to the Wizard of Oz for additional dollops of heart, brains, and courage. Center Mehmet Okur is a jumpshooter, which is what you don't want your starting Center to be, but Deron Williams is a legit All-Star and as long as they're still paying Carlos Boozer, they can beat anybody on any given night. Still, there is a feeling of dread among the team's fans, as if the submarine is starting to spring high-pressure leaks at the joints...
The Rest of the West:
9. Oklahoma City Thunder (4-4). Young guns need bigs. If KD gets hot, they could sneak into the playoffs...
10. Golden State Warriors (3-5). Young guns need bigs...
11. Los Angeles Clippers (3-7). No Blake, no cake. They'll need a major turnaround to get into the post-season...
12. Sacramento Kings (5-4). Congratulations due for winning record for these overachievers...
13. New Orleans Hornets (3-7). The biggest Louisiana disaster since Katrina...
14. Memphis Grizzlies (1-8). A fish rots from the head and this sure is one stinky fish...
15. Minnesota Timberwolves (1-9). More chances to draft elite PG prospects coming...
Okay, that's enough of that nonsense.
I said my piece about the Lakers-Nuggets game at the top, here's the Popcorn Machine GAME FLOW SUMMARY if you wanna take a look-see:
Observation 1: Holy shit, what a 3rd Quarter — runs of 10-0 and 17-4 for the Nuggets. Ballgame!
Observation 2: I have a theory that the moment Adam Morrison enters the game, the contest is over one way or the other and that normal life can resume. That happened to open the 4h Quarter last night. The Worst Player in the NBA scored 2 points on 1-for-5 shooting and was Minus-3 in 15 full minutes of action. Not that anybody's counting.
Observation 3: The wheels fell off the cart with the Laker starters on the floor. That's show biz.
Now, forward and onward for the real point of this blabberjabber festival, a carefully selected sampling of the gloating and taunting of Denver's journalists and blogalists...
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Denver Stiffs Game Day Open Thread
As long as either Bynum or Gasol is hurt, Lakers are very mortal
If they're both healthy for the playoffs (hardly a sure thing, given their histories), it's gonna be tough.posted by "CraftyB" on Nov 13, 2009 9:28 PM PST
I want them at 100% when we beat them this year.posted by "PosterNutbag" on Nov 13, 2009 9:29 PM PST
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Nuggets Earn Playoff Payback in Resounding 105-79 Win against Lakers
by Benjamin Hochman, Denver Post
On three straight possessions, Denver's J.R. Smith splashed two 3s and swooshed down court for a layup, but it was Smith's next play that had coach George Karl clapping furiously like he was about to scream "Tu-lo!"
Late in Friday night's third quarter — a third quarter we'll talk about for months — Smith drew a courageous charge deep in the paint, a play that was the quintessence of the quarter.
Up just two points at halftime, the Nuggets outscored the defending champion Lakers 29-8 in the third, breezing to a 105-79 victory at the Pepsi Center.
"I think it was the best quarter I've seen our team play against a special team, maybe since I've been in Denver," said Karl. "It was intense, focused, disciplined, and the offense rewarded the defense by converting plays."
It was Leavenworth lockdown. The Lakers (7-2) looked like the Clippers, shooting 4-for-20 in the quarter, while guys such as Arron Afflalo and Kenyon Martin roughed up the Lakers physically and psychologically. * * *
It's just one game — Pau Gasol was injured and the Lakers were on the second game of a back-to-back, but the game can surely be seen as a statement: The Nuggets want to beat L.A., a lot.
"Hopefully, it sends a big message not just to the Lakers but to the whole NBA — we're a legit team," Anthony said. * * *
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Two Ways to Interpret a Great Victory...
by Andrew Feinstein, Denver Stiffs (SBN)
After drubbing the Lakers by 26 points tonight, the Nuggets and their fans have every reason to be elated. But let's not read too much into this well played victory.
By getting their asses kicked in Denver tonight, the Lakers validated all of my complaints about the Nuggets onerous schedule featuring 22 back-to-back games. It may sound like an old gambler's cliche, but having to go on the road against a great home team for the second of a back-to-back affair is almost a guaranteed loss (unless you're the Nuggets going into Portland, of course...hey-ohhhhh!).
But just like I've been saying since the season started, even among great home teams some back-to-backs are tougher than others. But don't ask me, ask a true expert. When I had lunch with George Karl for our interview on Monday * * *, Karl made it clear that the worst back-to-back in the NBA is playing an 8:30 national TV game one night and then having to play at Denver or at Utah the following night.
In other words, the mighty Lakers fell victim to tough scheduling as much as a spirited Nuggets effort, which leaves us two ways to interpret this victory.
On the one hand, you might argue that this was a true statement game that put the entire NBA on notice that the Nuggets mean business at home. Even though most people expected the Lakers to lose (the Vegas line was Denver -2...not that I cared or anything), no one expected them to get shellacked by 26.
On the other hand, you could argue that having no Pau Gasol and having played late last night did the Lakers in before the game even started, and therefore this game means very little in the grand scheme of things. * * *
The [reality] lies somewhere in the middle. The Nuggets showed the Lakers tonight that whatever fear or intimidation factor that once existed when facing the Lakers has all but evaporated. But both teams clearly knew this wasn't a fair fight and a more interpretation-worthy duel is sure to come down the road. * * *
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AAA: Anatomy of Absolute Annihilation
by Nick Sclafani, The Nugg Doctor (Bloguin)
(Denver-CO) If the Denver Nuggets could play like they did last night against the Lakers in their, 105-79, dolly mopping of the defending champs every night the Mile High City will be enjoying their first NBA title in about seven months. I'm even sure how to describe last night's win other than perhaps it being the best Nuggets game I've even seen in my 27 years of watching Nuggets basketball. Seriously. * * *
Arron Afflalo - First things first, "Double A" did an absolutely marvelous job on Kobe Bryant defensively. He forced Kobe into tough shot after tough shot last night mainly because of doing his work before Kobe even got the ball. Afflalo was keeping Bryant as far from the goal as possible so when he did get the basketball he wasn't able to just make one quick move and get to the rim. This caused Kobe to take nearly impossible turnaround fade-away jump shots in the first half (some of which he made because he is Kobe), but for Bryant to have 19 points at the half in the manner he scored them is something the Nuggets could easily accept. Kudos for a job well done defensively on a nearly indefensible player individually, and to the Nuggets for collectively holding a frustrated Kobe Bryant scoreless in the second half.
Chauncey Billups - Mr. Big Shot didn't need to be as he was getting everyone involved offensively via heady passes. * * *
Carmelo Anthony - * * * I personally thought ‘Melo played some of his best defense that we've seen in his entire six-year tenure in Denver in last nights game. He had three steals, handed out a couple of assists, and pulled four boards, but what's more important than the raw numbers ‘Melo accumulated is the numbers that he didn't allow. Ron Artest finished with only eleven points in 25 minutes and backup small forwards Luke Walton and Adam Morrison combined for a paltry four points. * * *
Kenyon Martin - Kmart elevated his game against the Lakers and supplied the defensive toughness Denver so desperately needs right from the opening tip. * * *
Nene - Big Brazil might have the most unassuming performance in last night's game, but nevertheless still played great. He had a huge (pardon the pun) defensive assignment in Andrew Bynum and for the most part did an admirable job with the biggest seven-footer in the league. Let's face it, Andrew Bynum is a force of nature with what seem to be go-go-gadget arms and a nice touch offensively around the basket, but Nene played smart defense — knowing when to foul and when to concede — and countered Bynum's 19 points and 15 rebounds with 13 points, six rebounds, and four assists. * * *
Now, it's important to remember that in the NBA no loss is as bad as it seems and no win is as great as it is remembered, but with that being said I think this could be a signature win for the Nuggets and one that propels this team through the next leg of their schedule.
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posted by "Deternice" to Nuggets Talk message board
* * * I was impressed with our team's defense. Kobe may have been 2-10 against Afflalo and 5-7 against everyone else, but the funny thing about it is everybody that guarded him played good defense on him. He got a few good looks because of switches and JR falling asleep like 2 times, but everyone played good defense on him. However I have to give Afflalo his own credit. I've always said if someone gets it through their mind to not jump on Kobe's pumpfakes, they'll do a good job on him. Kobe just couldn't get AA to jump and that made Kobe's job a lot more difficult.
That was such a great win. I was most impressed with is Melo. He picked up 3 early fouls, but he seemed determined to not let Artest get the upperhand on him. * * * The 2nd half, we saw the MVP Melo that we saw in the first 3 games and even the crowd gave Carmelo his first "MVP" chant. His defense was phenomenal. Not to overrate his impact on the game last night, but while AA defense on Kobe was great, I think Melo's defense won us that game. I swear it was like I was watching Champ Bailey out there. Carmelo was just picking off or deflecting everything, just covering so much ground, and even Mark Jackson singled out the defense Carmelo was playing. I don't care about Melo stats, if he only gets 25 ppg and can play defense like that, I'll be satisfied.
The bench was great. I know a lot of people want JR starting, but I'm with Karl and Jackson on this one. Leave JR on the bench and have him get most of his minutes with Lawson. That duo is just unbelievable. They can get to the rim at will, make the 3 point shot, bring energy, and do whatever is needed of them. We must have the most explosive 1-2 punch off the bench in the league. Words can't even describe my reaction to Lawson's dunk on Benga. I found it funny how when Lawson went back to the hole, Benga made it his duty to knock the ball as far as he can
This was a great win. You can tell the Nuggets were up for this game as even when we were losing it was just so much energy on our team. While this win was great, we all know that this was without Gasol. His presence makes the Lakers much better than they are right now. But in basketball it doesn't matter who the opponent is, you can only play who the coach put on the floor, and we did a great job against the Lakers squad.
8-2 looks so much better than 7-3, but I can deal with it. With our easy games coming up, I'll be pissed if we lose more than 1 more game this month and we shouldn't lose any.
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by MHZ, RealGM Nuggets message board
This was a game that the Nuggets needed for their psyche — it mattered a lot more for Denver than it did LA. Second of a B2B, no Gasol, no excuses to lose this one if you think you can compete in the playoffs. Incredible third quarter.
Five things that stood out:
1. AA on Kobe. Kobe's going to get his, but don't give him a ton of cheap foul shots, and make him hit tough jumpers if he's scoring. That's what AA did. He didn't go for lift fakes either. Great job.
2. Melo in the third. Playing against the Lakers brings out the best in Melo, for sure. It's a shame he got a BS foul or two in the first half.
3. Lawson. God, I love that draft pick. I knew it was good when it happened, but who would have thought he'd be paying off so much this early.
4. K-Mart/Nene/Birdman. I love the intensity tonight. The Nuggets need to stand up for themselves, not in a bitch at the refs type of way, but a physical, not backing down type of way. The bigs stood up for themselves tonight.
5. AC. This is the happiest I've been with AC in two seasons. 0 minutes.
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Whoooooosh!!!
The Bottom LIne:
1. A Third Quarter that will live in Denver Nuggets history!
2. How about that Afflalo guy???
3. Hey Mbenga, did you get a taste of 5'9" Ty Lawson's ass flying by your face to the rack?
4. It was a back-to-back, sure, but we needed this one...
5. Go ahead and get your Pau back. We'll still kick your asses!
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lol at yahoo sports…anytime the lakers lose to someone
they write an article on how theyve proved themselves…
Leave Chad Billingsley alone!!!
lol yeah
i remember last year in March when we got blown out in Denver, everyone said they proved themselves they can beat us handily and some even went as far to say that they were the favorites in the WCF. We all remember how that played out….
by desecrator09 on Nov 14, 2009 1:23 PM PST up reply actions
West rankings
How the hell do you put the Kings at number 12 in the West when the other teams not in the top 8 all have worse records? Come on. Biased much? Seriously, the Kings are far from being a real contender, but they’re on a 4 game win streak without their high scorer. The team is young and inexperienced. They potentially have a bright future ahead of them, and to rank them behind Golden State and the Clippers is pathetic. You can argue that OKC can rank above them despite Sac’s better record, but come on. Two teams that are 3-7 over a team that’s 5-4? Please, show your bias a bit more next time.
I guess I have bias too.
I like the Kings, alright. I’m a Blazer fan.
But the Kings are clearly worse than the Clippers. The Warriors & OKC are slightly better on paper.
Were the Suns & Miami at the top of the league in power rankings just because they had some of the best records and awesome streaks?
They just weren’t good enough and everyone knew it.
timbo clearly bumped your Kings up for their winning, and they got exactly what they deserve. Plus, if they keep winning, they will keep climbing.
And, more generally, for the record, timbo usually doesn’t talk up teams he likes and slight teams he doesn’t like. He is a pretty steady evaluator.
*Unless KP has a secret plan that makes this statement incorrect.
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I actually like watching the Kings quite a lot, them being plucky underdogs, but their current record doesn't really reflect where they're at, power-wise.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
In my head I had them pegged at #15 coming into the season, BTW...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Maybe not, but...
The Clippers beat Minnesota, Golden State, and Memphis. Nothing to write home about. The Warriors beat Memphis, Minnesota, and New York. Again, nothing to write home about. Meanwhile, the Kings beat both Utah (at home!) and Houston, two teams that are expected to be playoff bound. That alone should put them ahead of the Clips and Warriors. Once Griffin plays, I think the Clippers will improve a lot, but he has yet to play so we can’t really assume anything…
I’m pleasantly surprised with the Kings thus far, especially Tyreke Evans. They’re still a young team and make a lot of mistakes they need to correct, but I think everyone is a bit surprised with their record, and putting them behing the Clippers and Warriors just doesn’t make sense to me.
Bad loss
We were supposed to lose and we did, not a big deal. What sucks is that we lost to Denver, a team I absolutely hate. I hate JR Smith and his flaunting, Kmart and “tough guy” image, and Carmelo cause hes a girl. Only Nugget I like is Chauncey cause he went to my alma mater.
What puzzles me sometimes is PJs rotations. He doesn’t seem to have any idea of who to put in on the second unit. It’s mostly been Farmar off the bench for Fisher, but then sometimes PJ puts in Shannon before Farmar at the point. Luke doesn’t even get in the game in the first half. Sasha just seems to get shoved in the game for a few minutes. I don’t know where I’m going with this. I wish PJ would be more consistent in his substitutions with the second unit. I know its good to keep them on their toes but it must be hard for the players. I swear PJ has gotten in Farmar’s head so bad that it affects his play. I know Farmar has more talent then he shows in the games.
Lamar = Laker for Life...Go Pads...Go Bolts
by mrbarneydangles on Nov 14, 2009 2:21 PM PST reply actions
You can think what you want about where the Western Conference teams rank
But you got one part quite wrong, and its a myth I’d like to dispel.
The Lakers’ bunny-soft early season schedule should have been printed in pink ink on pastel yellow paper.
Don’t believe the hype. Yes, by the time the Lakers are done with the infamous 21 game stretch that Reggie Miller predicted the Lakers would win 20 games, their schedule will have become littered with home games, and their early season schedule will be quite easy.
But at this point, the Lakers have played the 4th hardest schedule in the league. There have certainly been some easy games (Memphis, Clippers, NO all with bad records), but the Lakers have also played four games against top notch comp, record wise at least. Dallas (7-3), Denver (7-3), Phoenix (8-2), and Atlanta (7-2) all have very good records, and OKC and Houston are both close to .500 too. Also, their home game to road game ratio (6:3), at this point, is not outlandish. It will be in two weeks, but we’re not there yet.
I don’t put a whole lot of stock in such things, but the Lakers have the best RPI in the NBA, which measures winning percentage, opponents winning percentage, and opponents opponents winning percentage. So let’s can the talk of the Lakers easy early schedule until their schedule actually, you know, becomes easy.
they need to quit complaining about our schedule
we didnt write our schedule, the nba did…
and although it seems soft right now its gets very heavy in january and march
Leave Chad Billingsley alone!!!
You make a very good point, Chris.
“Lakers open with a weak schedule” is a preseason meme that hasn’t caught up with reality. In games against the rest of the league, Laker opponents have a 0.570 winning percentage so far. The Lakers have played a lot of home games, to be sure, but the slate of opponents has been anything but soft.
by DexterFishmore on Nov 14, 2009 8:15 PM PST up reply actions
Enjoy the win Denver fans
Sure you guys whomped on a laker team coming off a back to back…without their All Star power forward but this sure proves theyre in the same league as the lakers…? HELL NO.
I actually enjoyed watching Denver getting all worked up over last nights game. It was like it was game 6 in the Western Semi’s,..to them atleast.
Whats best is that the Thuggets actually consider the Lakers rivals. hahaha or lol as the myspace kids say. didnt the lakers send the nuggets on vacation the last two seasons? ohhh yeah, thats right.
As i said Denver,…ENJOY IT NOW.
the nuggets and their fans have short memories
theyre all bragging about the ass whooping they put on us
i guess they forgot about what happened last year and the year before that….
Leave Chad Billingsley alone!!!
Could be worse
You could be a Boston fan, Boston now has lost two in a row, once to Atlanta (in Boston) and now to Indiana on the road.
Can you imagine if the Lakers lose tomorrow? The sky will totally fall, and the less sophisticated fans will be calling for Artest’s head!
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
He did force it a bit before when they played the Lakers in Houston
But I don’t expect much residual effect.
I expect the Lakers to win at home after having a hard fought game in Houston, kind of like last years’ playoffs.
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
by Gils_Keloids on Nov 14, 2009 8:37 PM PST up reply actions
Brandon Jennings went off. 55 points on 21-34 shooting, 7-8 from behind the arc, 5 rebounds, 5 assists.
Just saw that
wow
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
by Gils_Keloids on Nov 14, 2009 8:19 PM PST up reply actions
It's the Bucks' rookie scoring record.
Wilt scored 58 as a rook.
by DexterFishmore on Nov 14, 2009 8:29 PM PST up reply actions
C'mon Dex
Why do we have bring facts into this?
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
by Gils_Keloids on Nov 14, 2009 8:32 PM PST up reply actions
Can you imagine the stats he'd be putting up if he was drafted by the Knicks?
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
by Gils_Keloids on Nov 14, 2009 10:24 PM PST up reply actions
also, OKC took San Antonio down in San Antone?
nice.
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
by Gils_Keloids on Nov 14, 2009 8:22 PM PST up reply actions
somehow theyve been trouble for them in their last couple of matches...
Leave Chad Billingsley alone!!!
You seriously are like following me
I just saw that too! CRAZEEEEE
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
And I know some people hate "MVP race" talk in the first few weeks
But Dwade’s three point game winner tonight pushed him to the top of the list
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
I believe two teams have started 0-17.
The 1988 Heat, in their inaugural season, and the 1999 Clippers, in the strike year.
by DexterFishmore on Nov 15, 2009 12:18 AM PST up reply actions
so I suppose
Lebron scoring the Cavs last eight points in two close wins (@Miami, vs. the Jazz) puts him at the bottom of that list?
by cavslandrocks on Nov 15, 2009 9:09 AM PST up reply actions
No, I meant that it pushed Dwade to the top of the list excluding Lebron
Lebron is on the separate list that he is always at the top of.
My alternative answer is: Yes, he is at the bottom of the list, since I did not mention him, and since I am a Laker fan, I must think Lebron is the worst player in the league this side of Mark Madsen, and even that is insulting to Mark Madsen.
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
by Gils_Keloids on Nov 15, 2009 10:04 AM PST up reply actions
Kudos
Seems like a good moment to mention that I have come to really enjoy and respect your pieces timbo – mostly read at Blazers Edge – but you are good anywhere. Thanks.
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