Kobe Bryant, Michael Jordan, and the Internet
Kobe Bryant is one of the greatest basketball players of all time. I didn't include a specific number because that's not what this is about, but he's up there. He is also, beyond the shadow of a doubt, the most polarizing presence in all of basketball. The Kobe Haters lambast him for everything from selfish play to his poor moral choices of years past. The latest trend is to label all of the changes that he's made (to his game, to his personality, to his interactions with teammates) as fake. On the other side of the coin, the Kobe Lovers defend him with religious zeal, often lumping anyone who has the smallest criticism of their hero amongst the "Haters" category. Thus, opinions surrounding Kobe Bryant tend to be pretty black and white, because any shade of gray is inevitably forced towards one end of the spectrum. It's easy to figure out why people love Kobe. The majority are Lakers fans who simply adore their favorite team's star, and the rest love him because of his success, his game, or because of his frequent offseason trips to China. But why is the Hate side of the spectrum so large?
I'm not saying there aren't reasons to dislike Kobe. He has done plenty of things that could cause people to view him negatively. For one, he's been successful, and there is always a certain level of jealousy attached to such things. However, Kobe has also done plenty on his own to encourage people to dislike him. He has acted selfishly in the past. He has treated teammates poorly. He has been accused of using games to deliver messages, both to other players and to his own team/coaches. Whether you place the blame on him for Shaq's departure from the Lakers or not, he played a major role in a bad situation. Phil Jackson even said he was "uncoachable", although I'm guessing PJ would back off that statement now. And Kobe did get himself involved in the nightmare that was Vail, Colorado. So, there are a lot of reasons to dislike Kobe, if one chooses to focus on them. The question is: Why do so many people make that choice?
This is where Michael Jordan comes in. Michael Jordan is, by consensus, the greatest player of all time. He was also, until recently, one of the least polarizing presences in the game of basketball. There are very few people in this world who dislike or hate Michael Jordan. I'm sure there were plenty of people who didn't like him in their time, but most of that enmity was of the jealousy inspired type, and it went away as soon as Jordan stopped dominating on the court. After he retired for real (sort of) in 1998, any dislike for him seemed to go out the window, and he turned into a kind of basketball demi-god. I could be wrong, but I doubt very much that Kobe Bryant will receive that same sort of warm reception from the general NBA public outside of Los Angeles once he hangs it up. This has nothing to do with Jordan's place as the GOAT, and whether Kobe will come close to challenging that title or not by the end of his career. There are simply too many people who dislike Kobe for too many reasons, and many of those people's opinions will not change just because Bryant is no longer an active player. The next question is: Why doesn't MJ have that same negative following?
Michael Jordan has done many of the same things people dislike Kobe for. He treated teammates poorly at times, the same way that Kobe has. He once punched two teammates, which is a far worse teammate interaction than Kobe has ever had. He ran off Doug Collins the same way Kobe is accused of running off Shaq and Phil Jackson. I'm not old enough to have watched a lot of Jordan's early years, but all the stats point to Jordan having similarly "selfish" play. Jordan's lifetime usage is higher than Kobe's, and his assists are about the same. Statistically, there isn't much difference between the two in terms of determining "selfish" basketball. Jordan had a serious off-the-court problem during his career as well (gambling), and while I'm not coming close to saying that gambling and being accused of rape are the same thing, they are both notable issues that a "hater" could latch on to as a validation of their hate. Jordan even walked away from the game (or was pushed because of the gambling, if you believe the conspiracy theorists), and if Kobe had followed the same path, I'm sure there would be people who would latch onto that as another reason to dislike the man. Despite all of this, Jordan never had a negative following even closely resembling the one that Kobe has. Why?
All of these questions have the same answer: The Internet. The Internet has globalized the way we can follow the game, and as a result, groups of fans have a greater ability to get together and discuss the NBA outside of their home market, or to discuss it with other NBA fans from different markets. Kobe has spent his entire career under the microscope of having his every action accessible by any NBA fan, not just his local market. When Shaq and Kobe were feuding, it was a national story because of the 24 hour news cycle which has been driven by the internet. When Kobe took only 3 shots in the 2nd half of Game 7 of the playoff series against Phoenix a few years ago, the next day there were editorial pieces about it on national sports sites and blogs across the country. Kobe Bryant's career has existed in a fishbowl, and every negative detail has been gleaned off by those who choose to focus on the negative aspects of his career.
Jordan's career wasn't subjected to this kind of scrutiny. Most of Jordan's career occurred during a time when the national sports media was limited to weekly magazines, and USA Today. ESPN had barely come to fruition, and cable as a platform was just getting off the ground. But, most importantly, the internet didn't explode until the very end of Jordan's (real) career, when he was becoming the GOAT, and everything was rosy. There were no groups of fans from across the country discussing whether Jordan's 37 points per game on 28 shots/game was a great season or a selfish one. There were only Bulls fans who loved their new star. I don't remember whether it was a national story or not when Jordan punched teammates Steve Kerr and Will Perdue. But I can guarantee that there weren't national NBA message boards lit up the next day talking about how bad a teammate Jordan was, because such places did not exist. There was no place for any potential legion of Jordan "haters" to unite, to allow the negatives surrounding him to fester.
The best piece of evidence I can provide is the recent change in Jordan's status as an unassailable icon. Jordan's Hall of Fame speech has been derided as being childish, vindictive, and a show of poor sportsmanship. He's been criticized across the nation for exhibiting such behavior at an event that is supposed to be about celebration. And for the first time, in Henry Abbott's memory at least, there seems to be a faction of MJ haters out there, who dislike Jordan the person while respecting Jordan the ballplayer. Why does this exhibit prove my point? Because just about everybody who actually knew Jordan, those who were directly involved with his career, have all had the same reaction to the speech: "That's Michael." He wasn't acting differently during that HOF speech than he has in the past, we just have a greater capability to notice it.
If Michael was a player in today's NBA, there would be a sizable faction of Jordan "haters", no matter how many championships he might win. Rival fans might talk on their blogs and message boards about how big of a dick that MVP, championship winning, Bulls guard is. How he's selfish because he takes so many more shots than his teammates. How his teammates just pretend to like him because they fear being assaulted. National writers looking to drive traffic might make the same arguments, hoping simply to get reactions. This couldn't happen 20 years ago because most Bulls news wasn't a national storyline, and would only be reported in and around Chicago. And, even if people saw or heard about something they didn't like, they weren't likely to get together in person to discuss Jordan. 20 years ago, fans were almost universally concerned only with their own teams, because they really didn't have the capability to go very far beyond that. Now, other than the limiting factor of time, nothing is stopping us from following all 30 NBA teams at once. The internet has changed the way we can be fans of the game, but it has also created a way for us to be anti-fans of other teams and players.
In the end, there are plenty of differences between Kobe Bryant and Michael Jordan. We can't tell yet whether Kobe will match or surpass MJ in championships. We won't ever be able to truly compare their career arcs because young Kobe had Shaq, which is either an enhancement of, or a detriment to, his legacy, depending on how you look at it. We can argue forever about whether Kobe emulates Jordan too much, and compare the two players in each individual aspect of the game. But it could be that the biggest difference between perceptions of the two players', the biggest reason why MJ will be remembered so adoringly, while Kobe could be remembered by some as much with vitriol as love, is because Kobe played in a time when everybody in the world had access to every aspect of his career, positive and negative, while Jordan played in a time when the general NBA fan only heard about his greatness.
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great article
I never thought about it until i read this article. You made a very good point in why kobe gets the “hater” status more than MJ. Look Im a MJ Hater and have always been. I always thought he had a big ego. So Kudos to this article. Intenet has change the way we pursue sports and why Kobe has more haters than MJ.
Another reason for the hate is just plain projection
People see or read about a certain set of behaviors by Kobe, and they think they know who he is. I can’t count how many times I’ve heard that Kobe is like “that guy at work who is a jerk to everybody”. Mentally, they slap Kobe’s face onto people and characters that they know from personal experience. Once you have that perception, everything action and reaction is viewed through that lens. Harmless gestures become menacing body language. Looks of boredom from teammates become looks of disgust. Non-actions become telling signs, and on and on.
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
wow! great argument
CA Clark, you must of read my Fan Post, “The Lakers Have Signed Kermit Washington 2.0” lol j/k.
Ultimately I hope that Kobe will be appreciated for what he did for the game. Unlike Jordan Kobe never cares how many shoes he sells so although his image is important he will never sell out by not being to speak his mind when something bothers him.
"When I walked into the locker room on my first day as a Laker and saw my gold uniform hanging there, I cried." - Magic Johnson (Best Laker Ever)
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Oct 29, 2009 5:33 PM PDT reply actions
I recognize Kobe, who are the other two douchebags?
On a serious note, I have never really liked MJ. I recognize his basketball greatness, but I can’t stand when people equate someones celebrity to their intelligence or greatness in an area in which they haven’t proven themselves. An example would be giving credibility to a celebrities political opinions like they are any more correct or informed than I am. Neither Charleton Heston nor Sean Penn know any more about politics than you or I do.
I suppose it isn’t MJ’s fault, but I can’t stand how his fans treat him like a god simply because he was a great basketball player. One of the biggest jokes of all time was Jordan being named “Athlete of the Century” at the turn of the millennium. There are probably 50 people that should have been ahead of him on that list.
Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."
the pictures are hilarious
kobe pouting (too many haters) and MJ smiling (too many worshippers)
but what is mr. vp doing in there?
Mr. Internet?
Great post…Granted, I was a huge Magic fan, but I always recognized MJ’s shortcomings on and off the court (Magic also got off a lot easier than Kobe for his off-court problems).
Not sure it was necessary to perpetuate the lie about Al Gore. It was a complete fabrication that he said he created the internet: http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp.
I have to admit
If I were to list the parts of this post I thought to be controversial, the usage of Al Gore’s photo as a joke wouldn’t have been high on my list.
I don’t know how much influence I have in perpetuating the lie (and I read what you linked, regardless of what he meant and the actual meaning of his sentence, he deserves grief for that comment), but considering the point of it was to symbolize the internet in the form of a person, I challenge you to name someone more recognizable.
But thanks for the background. I didn’t really know how the whole Gore-internet thing came about anyway, and it’s always good to learn new stuff.
Relax Tipper.
No one is trashing your man. Almost everyone knows CERN invented the internet. Can’t people poke fun once in a while? People still make fun of Sasha Vujacic for calling himself the Machine. We all know he didn’t, but what’s wrong with perpetuating a myth that we all know is a myth.
Besides Al Gore is famous for embellishing his achievements, he brings it on himself.
Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."
It didn't help Kobe either
that he had to be Jordan’s “heir/air” apparent.
whether self-perpetuated by Kobe or not, the media has always compared Kobe to Jordan and that ruffled a lot of Jordan worshippers’ feathers.
Lakers 2009 Road to Redemption: TREVOR, DEREK, LAMAR, PAU & KOBE.
Play the game of which Lakers reminds you of: TA - TI, Shannon Brown - Chris Brown, Pau Gasol - Jesus, Machine - Luis Scola/Russell Brand, PJ with mustache and beard - Colonel Sanders.
by PeanutButterSpread on Oct 29, 2009 7:24 PM PDT reply actions
"This couldn't happen 20 years ago because most Bulls news wasn't a national storyline, and would only be reported in and around Chicago."
That’s why I am so grateful for Sam Smith, who wrote “The Jordan Rules”, and dared to write negative columns about Jordan in the 1980s.
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
I have never read that book but I should
Gils, have you read it? I’m sure I could find it in the Goodwill like many other Sports books that I have found for only a quarter. They are mostly good reads.
"When I walked into the locker room on my first day as a Laker and saw my gold uniform hanging there, I cried." - Magic Johnson (Best Laker Ever)
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Oct 29, 2009 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Yep
And you can buy it here – but not for a quarter. The public library, perhaps?
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
by Gils_Keloids on Oct 30, 2009 12:14 AM PDT up reply actions
thnx
that is really cool of you to post that link. i’m buying it. I need to read that book. I’m too much of a NBA nut to not have read that book.
"When I walked into the locker room on my first day as a Laker and saw my gold uniform hanging there, I cried." - Magic Johnson (Best Laker Ever)
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Oct 30, 2009 6:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Excellent write up C.A.
But beware of the potential trolling floodgates you’ve opened with this piece. Especially the Jordan trolls. They will happily dive in front of a bullet for Jordan’s legacy
Thanks, and we'll be ready
Josh and I knew exactly what sort might come in with this piece, and as you can see from Josh’s response to just such a person below, responses to trolls will be timely and firm.
Excellent article
I think you hit it right on the head, but—even in the span of Kobe’s career—think of the changes in how the internet is used. I mean, just in the last ten years the internet has evolved and become so much more integrated into how people spend their leisure time, not to mention that it has become infinitely more widespread (as has cable and ESPN). And when you think of things like twitter, which has accelerated the tendency towards information parsed into smaller and smaller bits, it’s easy to see how context can get even more lost in the shuffle.
I also think, in Kobe’s case, that he perhaps was unaware of the power that reporters and the media have to make or break someone’s image. I can remember that, earlier in his career, he was forever being compared in the media to Shaq in terms of accessibility and geniality with reporters unfavorably and how this definitely colored their view of him and inevitably ended in articles discussing him as aloof or arrogant. This is not to say that some of the criticism of Kobe hasn’t been warranted over the years (certainly he was selfish from 2005-07, but let’s face it: he HAD to be), but I think when a reputation gets developed, it’s difficult to break away from that. Kobe’s had to learn it the hard way which is, I think, now part of this “fake” rap he gets. You deal with all the stuff he had to over the course of his career, I would imagine you eventually get sick of fighting those battles.
"Of course, what the bat cannot reveal is that, though he loves the ball desperately, he has sworn an oath of loyalty to the glove, to whom the ball was promised. So the bat must pretend he hates the ball, swatting at it, though he wishes nothing more than to profess his undying affection. But he can’t, he musn’t, he shan’t! And so the bat must retreat to the gardens of his estate and pine." - Stephen Colbert describing the Jane Austen version of baseball
Nice post
Made me think about it because in the past four years I’ve been a regular on Insidehoops. Where you can read nba stories from teams in their own cities. We never had the luxury to do that in the past. We had to rely on magazines, newspapers and local news to hear about rumors, trades and injuries about other teams. During the end of Jordan’s career the internet started to catch up to MJ. With his gambling and infidelity showing up in news cycles along with his job as an absentee GM. But it doesn’t matter now because his legend became mythical. Growing too big to do any damage to him and his empire.
Why is Gore in the picture, you ask?
Because he “invented” the internet, of course!
wow! wow! wow!
you are god in literature art. i couldn’t agree with you more. those words and sentences you expressed had me completely……,
by the way, Kobe makes nba more exciting to watch following the Magic, Bird, and Jordan era.
stupid
I hate when young people compare thier stats. Let’s see Kobe score 30 points a game with half of the knicks starting line up hanging on his back. The game was much more brutal in Jordan’s era. Anybody that watched it in the 90s remembers. You can thank Pat Riley for Jordan not averaging 40 points a game.
Try reading first
This post did NOT compare stats.
In fact, this post did NOT compare the two players’ basketball abilities at all.
It did NOT attempt to determine who was better, who could score more, or anything else of the sort.
This was a post on the role of the media in the lives and perceptions of athletes, and how that has evolved.
Next time, before jumping to a knee jerk reaction and criticizing the post based on your own preconceived biases, you might actually read the post first, to make sure your comments will be even a little bit relevant.
Strength & Honor
It's good to be the Champs
by Josh Tucker on Oct 30, 2009 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Reading comprehension
Maybe you should have to pass a quick test to post a comment!
Statement: Jerry went to school in the morning.
This statement does not imply which of the following?
a) Jerry is a student
b) Jerry went to school before noon
c) Jerry is a better player than Michael Jordan
If you cannot pass this test, you may NOT comment!
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
by Gils_Keloids on Oct 30, 2009 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Stupid
Everybody knows Jordan is teaching the school West was attending.
And he would have failed the whole class if it weren’t for the NBA telling him that “somebody” had to graduate.
You can thank David Stern for this country’s poor educational performance.
disagree
just a Kobe apologist trying to find some kind of justification
basically hypothesis is that the reason so many people are down on kobe is just because there is more exposure now adays with the internet n the 24 news thing
in a way that is true
but in a way it is not
at Jordan’s peak he was the absolute biggest thing in the world
seriously
i remember some early 90s poll he was like third most recognized behind superman and micky mouse
the jordan phenomenon was way way bigger than anything kobe has experienced
also
kobe’s been in the league since 96
while jordan was still paying and before the big bad internet was so widespread as to make evereyone hate him
but guess what
people hated him anyway
right off the bat
even shaq his team mate
alot had to do with his demanding to go to LA, as with other draft day demanding athletes, fans really hate that
but a lot had to do with just his personality, youth etc
finally i think the blogger doesn’t really understand the amount of negative criticism that jordan did actually face through out his career
there was a ton
a ton of people said he was selfish and would never win
a ton of people said even when he did win he was a dick
he got a lot of heat for jordan rules
he got a lot of heat for gambling
he got a lot of heat for not going to the white house
he got a lot of heat for the price of his shoes, and his failure to live up to some ideal of being more than a salesman and taking some social stands
sure we dont think about it now
but jordan didnt have it all sunshine all the time
i think kobe’s polarization has already faded
and will continue to
and when he does retire, no he wont be as beloved as jordan
but as time goes on he will be viewed more and more fondly in retrospect (seems like always the way)
by Sloq_Joe on Oct 30, 2009 5:05 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Thanks for the oppposite point of view
Although normally a Kobe apologist actually apologizes for Kobe. I don’t really see how drawing parallels between Jordan’s behavior and Kobe’s behavior excuses Kobe, or even attempts to. I’m not passing judgment on either one.
If you say that Jordan did have a lot of heat on him, and that it ended up going away over time, I can’t really argue the point. But I’d like to know, where was this heat coming from? From local papers? From national magazines? From ESPN? From rival fans?
I’m sure that Kobe will be viewed more fondly over time, as you say, but I don’t think that it will ever be almost fully positive, as it has seemed to be for MJ.
People who hate Kobe now...
…have always hated Kobe. They felt justified after Colorado and Shaq. Those same people felt justified in saying that Kobe was responsible for the Lakers not winning in ‘04 (or any time since) and for Phil Jackson leaving, and for global warming, and for everything that is wrong with the world. People who hate Kobe now have always hated Kobe. It has nothing to do with the internet. I have never liked Michael Jordan (I’m old enough to have seen him play) and I never will. I don’t deny that he was a great player, just not one I liked; I feel the same way about LeBron James. Even if one of them wins the Nobel Peace Price, my feelings aren’t going to change. People who hate Kobe now have always hated Kobe.
that's a good point
i think passionate haters have hated & will hate kobe regardless of the media (or internet). Though, I think the media may sway the “casual” hater (those that initially don’t care may grow to dislike him due to negative news). Though, I have to say, the media in general just like to post negative articles…yellow journalism, right?
Perhaps there were just as many “Jordan haters/dislikers” back in the days, but I think the internet definitely makes it more “pronounced”. The “casual hater” wouldn’t just walk around the street proclaiming their dislike/hatred, but could easily roam the internet posting negative comments.
nice article
yep great article…massively overlooked point…had never crossed my mind either…great read
this article is just so wrong
and obviously written by someone that never saw Jordan. (as you have admitted) The reason Kobe is so polarized is because he chose to be.
He chose to emulate Micheal entering the league copying his game which is no big deal as many have. He copied his body language, kind of unnerving but passable as a result of their games being similar. He copied his gestures, you do remember Kobe sticking his tongue out on plays? Sorry but that is stretching on insanity, especially since he does NOT do it now. He even copied his friggin voice!! Kobe speaks much differently than when he first entered the league. That’s why from his haters to his teammates they have all said he was fake. That is the SOLE reason people hate him. End of story. Period. All the other things written are just icing on the cake.
Its like someone came in and started emulating Elvis, Ali, etc. You are going to be hated because you aren’t original. People will view you as a ripoff of the original, a cheap imitation no matter how successful you become. If Kobe acted the way he has in the past 2-3 years his entire career then people would have a much different and favorable impression of home
Idiot
your moronic comment just proves this writer’s points. I’m a Jordan fan myself and I think his worshippers are the dumbest basketball fans ever. They are just as stupid as Kobe homers.
The reason he is polarized is because of trolls like you and your double standards. The problem with people like you is you act as if Jordan created the sport of basketball. If you are going to bash Kobe for emulating Jordan, bash Jordan for emulating David Thompson and Dr.J.
And saying Kobe copies his body language and voice is pathetic. It shows how much of a fanboy you are.
I swear, these clowns might as well copyright Mj’s career.
by AirJordan23Magic32 on Oct 31, 2009 7:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Great line
I swear, these clowns might as well copyright Mj’s career
I wish I came up with that.
"When I walked into the locker room on my first day as a Laker and saw my gold uniform hanging there, I cried." - Magic Johnson (Best Laker Ever)
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Oct 31, 2009 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions
I couldn't have said this any better myself...
…and the part about his imitation “stretching on insanity” is just insane. Dude, imitation is a form of flattery, and there are plenty of people who imitate their idols without being hated.
“If Kobe acted the way he has in the past 2-3 years his entire career then people would have a much different and favorable impression of [him].” That is total BS. As I stated, if you hate Kobe now, you’ve always hated Kobe, and no matter what he does, it’s not going to change.
I forgot who my audience was
That people would result to name calling to try and get their weak points across. Anyway, you are 100% correct in parts of Jordan’s game does emulate Dr J, David Thompson, Pistol Pete and a slew of other greats. What part of Kobe’s game emulates anything other than Jordan? The answer is nothing. He didn’t gather from greats, he just carbon copied one man and blew it way out of proportion. Just goes back to my original point. Elvis didn’t create music, he took it from several artist and put his own twist into it. Ali didn’t invent boxing, he took what other fighters had and put his own bravado on it. Kobe copied Jordan to the T, adding nothing, absolutely nothing of his own. Noone just hates without a reason no matter how some of you try to paint the picture of him being a victim. Like you guys have been saying people hated him from the beginning. Could it be that he was dubbed the air apparent in HS when Jordan was still playing? Could it be that he had a shaved head (and yes talking like Jordan), dating Brandy, and living like a superstar at 18?
Lebron grew up in the age of the internet yet he is more liked than Kobe, why is that? Anyone other than Kobe lovers knows Lebron has been the superior player the past 3 years easily. We have had just as much if not more access to Lebron. Kobe didn’t have ESPN televising his HS basketball games. Lebron is just as arrogant and hollywood-like as Kobe in my opinion. Yet when people try and define his game the same comparison comes up as Jordan. There are 4-5 greats that people say his game emulates. Magic, Barkey, The Big O etc. There is no-one that Kobe emulates other than Jordan. I’m not saying Jordan is the end all GOAT. If Kobe had as much passion emulating Magic, Bird, hell Manute Bol he would be just as hated as he is now because he has always lacked his own style.
Your an even bigger idiot than I thought
The fact that you went from talking about this article to bringing up who is better between King James and Kobe shows the typical Kobe hater bias.
Yes he plays very similar to “His airness”, but you, like the other idiots, blow it out of proportion. How come your not quick to judge Dwyane Wade? D.Wade plays very similar to Jordan as well. In fact, D.Wade plays just as similar to Jordan as Kobe does except for the post game. The reason narrow-minded fools dont see it is because they are easily fooled by Kobe and Jordan having similar body structure.
And you saying Kobe “even talks like Jordan” exposes you for being either a narrow-minded worshipper or hater. I don’t understand. Michael Jordan has his own language???
That is my point. You idiots will find any reason to talk down on Kobe.
“noone just hates without a reason”?? pick your reason moron.
by AirJordan23Magic32 on Nov 1, 2009 1:49 PM PST up reply actions
You two both need to cool it with the name calling
Neither one of you are improving this conversation in the slightest. Respect for other’s opinions is necessary for you to get in the conversation.
Kelvin, for you to say that the one and only reason the haters hate Kobe is because he’s tried to be too much like Jordan, that seems like a stretch to me. IF that were true, I wouldn’t have had to list so many different things that people “hate” on Kobe for. Honestly, I don’t even think that’s a top 5 reason.
And LeBron more well liked than Kobe? No hate for LeBron? Are you kidding me? You’re telling me that nobody dislikes LeBron and his teams for their posturing? Look at how much shit he got for hiding the dunk tapes, or for wearing shirts that say LBJ = MVP. LeBron has plenty of haters too. Maybe not as many as Kobe, but certainly enough to blow your point completely out of the water.
Air,I happen to agree with your points, but if you don’t get rid of the idiot and fanboy talk, you won’t be welcome here.
The subject matter is controversial enough, we don’t need people flinging mud on top of it.
anyway...
we all have our biases.. me for instance just cannot like lebron.. i don’t have the reasons to back up why i don’t like him..maybe the same goes for all of us.. let us enjoy the way they play the game.. for sure both gave us great perfomances that we can tell even to our grandchildren.. i don’t really call it hating, of course i don’t go putting on a coment here just to rip anybody i call it rooting against our superstar.. as a sports fan.. it would’nt be fun at all if we don’t have that kind of fervor or zeal to root against another basketbal star or team..
Where does this "Kobe talked like M.J." crap come from anyway
I seem to remember Kobe having a Philly accent in his earlier years. I don’t know how the talking like Jordan thing came about since Jordan dosent even have an accent. Here is a clip with both of them speaking.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ju_rG3DtBnM
How can anybody think these two sound alike?

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