Postgame Recap Preseason Style: Lakers vs. Nuggets
Another preseason game, another victory. Despite their own best efforts to the contrary, the Lakers just can't seem to lose a game. Tonight it was no bigs, no problem. Gasol missed another game with a sore hamstring (more on this later) and Bynum took the night off with a strained shoulder. So what happened? Our 2nd string Center and 3rd string power forward outplayed the Nuggets starting Center and PF.
Some other thoughts and details
-Tonight was Mbenga time. 7 blocked shots, a couple of 18 foot jumpers, and a ton of fan appreciation. Mbenga really got after it tonight, and showed that, aside from his penchant for fouling, he might actually be our best defensive option at the pivot. Not that it matters, he still won't see the time of day, but he certainly knows how to deter shots.
-Here's a stat that should make everybody smile. Average starter's +/-: 4.6, average bench player's +/-: 10.6666 (not including Tony Gaffney, who played 3 minutes). Preseason disclaimers aside, any game in which the Lakers bench plays well like this, its nearly impossible to imagine them losing
-I've never seen Lamar Odom be that aggressive from the outside. He was taking ridiculous, silly three pointers ... and making them. He was 5-6 at one point, including some attempts that can only be described as heat checks. Save some for the season, my man.
-The Nuggets were incredibly sloppy with the ball, turning it over 26 times, good for 35 Laker points. Victory explained.
-If you haven't heard, PJ said that Gasol's injury might hold him out of the season opener, which is mildly concerning. I had been of the opinion that Gasol's injury wasn't even real, just an excuse to keep him out a couple weeks since he's had a busy summer. I guess I was wrong. I don't think Pau's presences is absolutely vital against the Clippers, but it's starting to get me a bit nervous.
- One man's opinion: Farmar is starting to pull away in the discussion of which point guard should get more time off the bench. He's back to 100% quickness, and his explosive first step is allowing him to be a play maker for the 2nd unit, often creating quality shots for himself and his teammates. Shannon Brown just doesn't have that capability, and it is a dynamic which is very important on a 2nd unit that might otherwise fail to create good shots. As many have said, playing time may be determined more by matchups than anything else, but all things being equal, I'd rather have Farmar playing with the 2nd unit than Brown. Although I'd still prefer both of them. I'd rather have Brown playing with the starters, if the need arose.
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Thanks for the preseason recaps...
A hamstring injury for Pau at this point does not worry me. Let him rest a bit. Like you said he has had a busy summer and a busy season before that and a busy summer before that and a busy season before that. As long as he doesn’t try to come back to early, there should be no lingering hammy effects.
Hopefully Drew’s shoulder is more of the make believe kind of injury.
Wherever I go, that's where I am.
by noontide on Oct 23, 2009 1:45 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I loved this part.........
“average bench player’s +/-: 10.6666”
What, 10.667 wasn’t accurate enough? You had to go to the ten thousandths? LOL
Also I agree with this……
“One man’s opinion: Farmar is starting to pull away in the discussion of which point guard should get more time off the bench.”
But I don’t like the idea of Shannon Brown NOT getting enough run. Maybe your statement should be followed up with…..
“One man’s opinion: Brown is starting to pull away in the discussion of which shooting guard should get more time off the bench.”
Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."
by pslakerfan on Oct 23, 2009 10:46 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure I think Brown should get much playing time at this point
That sounds harsh, and I don’t mean it to be. I love Brown as a player, and I’m very happy he’s on the Lakers, but the truth of it is that the Lakers have 8 players vying for minutes at 3 positions (Fisher, Farmar, Brown at the 1, Kobe, Sasha at the 2, Artest, Walton, Morrison at the 3) and you really only need 2 players at each position.
At this point, I would rank Brown as the 5th guard in terms of what he can bring to the overall situation. After the starters, I rank Sasha as the 1st guard off the bench, and then Farmar over Brown. Call me crazy, but I like Sasha’s defense and his open shooting seems loads better so far this year. If he reverts back to last season’s form, then sure give me Brown and Farmar off the bench.
One has to keep in mind that the 1st guard off the bench this season is basically a 6th starter. Fisher’s minutes will be the lowest of any starter, barely more than half the minutes in a game. So his replacement needs to be someone that meshes well with the starting unit as much as with the 2nd unit. This is how I rank the guards in terms of fitting in with the different units.
Playing with the starters: Sasha, Brown, Farmar
Playing with the 2nd unit: Farmar, Brown, Sasha
As you can see, my perfect world rotations are really weird. I think Sasha should be the 1st guard off the bench, playing with the starters when Fisher comes out. But, I think that when the 2nd unit comes in, Sasha should be subbed in for Brown so that Brown and Farmar can play together. But that really doesn’t make a whole lot of sense in the real world, so I think that Brown ends up being the odd man out, and I can’t disagree with that.
I still see the potential for a three guard 2nd unit (pushing Sasha to the 3 to take Walton’s minutes and Brown plays at the 2). I actually like this idea (as long as Sasha isn’t getting killed by stronger 3’s) because it brings the most out of all of our players. Farmar is good at running the fast break, and creating open shots on kick outs. Brown helps him with the fast break, and both he and Sasha help him with the open shots part. Walton and Farmar (with either Brown or Sasha) don’t mesh as well as the three guard combination would. But that possibily creates as much of a defensive liability as it does an offensive advantage.
by C.A. Clark on Oct 23, 2009 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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